Why it's so important for the Democrats to raise taxes

[jdawg1012]

Voluntary donation and its accompanying sacrifice precisely how His servants have indicated it is to be administered.

I am not arguing for socialism. However, this statement is incorrect. It ignores the scriptures and history. Voluntary sacrifice is the higher law of Zion, but it is not the only way the Lord contemplates taking care of the poor.

The laws of ancient Israel are our best example of the type of laws He would have us live under if we cannot live under Zion.

I am not arguing for socialism.

Yes you are, you're just saying you're not.

Voluntary sacrifice is the higher law of Zion, but it is not the only way the Lord contemplates taking care of the poor.

Prophets say otherwise, read the talk you keep ignoring, stop misinterpreting ancient scripture.

The laws of ancient Israel are our best example of the type of laws He would have us live under if we cannot live under Zion.

I'm familiar with the praise of ancient prophets and the ignoring of modern ones. You are absolutely and unequivocally incorrect, AGAIN.

It's odd, every false principle you use is addressed in the talk by the Apostle, Elder Romney. You're still wrong, no matte how many times you try to say it is right.

[Gad]

Yes you are, you're just saying you're not.

Thank you for telling me what I think. I have posted scripture and refrained from personal attacks. I would appreciate the same in return.

Prophets say otherwise, read the talk you keep ignoring, stop misinterpreting ancient scripture.

I think you need to reread that talk yourself. It was more of an apologetic piece dealing with the United Order and communism during the cold war. It did not address the Mosaic law at all.

I'm familiar with the praise of ancient prophets and the ignoring of modern ones. You are absolutely and unequivocally incorrect, AGAIN.

Nope, sorry. The Lord is clear and consistent all through out scripture. He wants the poor taken care of. He has given us commandments to do so voluntarily, He has included it as part of the laws of the land in ancient Israel. He tells us that it will determine who is on His left or right hand. Every book of scripture is permeated with this message, "In as much you do it unto the least of these ye have done it to me."

This is canonized word spread throughout all of scripture versus one talk which you have placed on a higher level than the scriptures. You do realize that the church has come out and said that not everything said over the pulpit is inspired? You have latched onto this talk to justify ignoring the plight of the poor in spite of the many discourses in the canon that warn against this.

I am sorry but this thread is locked.

[Gad]

Heh, guys I wanted to apologize for locking this thread. I was reacting emotionally to some of the comments and my behavior was poor.

Sorry.

The thread is unlocked, but I am going to bow out of the conversation.

I also want to say I appreciate anyone who "calls me to repentance". I'd rather be called out for my bad behavior than continue it.

[jdawg1012]

Thank you for telling me what I think. I have posted scripture and refrained from personal attacks. I would appreciate the same in return.

Prophets say otherwise, read the talk you keep ignoring, stop misinterpreting ancient scripture.

I think you need to reread that talk yourself. It was more of an apologetic piece dealing with the United Order and communism during the cold war. It did not address the Mosaic law at all.

I'm familiar with the praise of ancient prophets and the ignoring of modern ones. You are absolutely and unequivocally incorrect, AGAIN.

Nope, sorry. The Lord is clear and consistent all through out scripture. He wants the poor taken care of. He has given us commandments to do so voluntarily, He has included it as part of the laws of the land in ancient Israel. He tells us that it will determine who is on His left or right hand. Every book of scripture is permeated with this message, "In as much you do it unto the least of these ye have done it to me."

I didn't say at all what you think. I cut through the semantic game. Having government redistribution is socialism. It doesn't matter if one uses a euphemism, its the same thing. I was calling out the word dance for what it was.

The Lord is clear and consistent all through out scripture.

Yes he is, it's stated unequivocally that the Lord's way is through VOLUNTARY OFFERINGS.

He wants the poor taken care of.

Through cheerful, willful giving by His servants, indeed.

Every book of scripture is permeated with this message, "In as much you do it unto the least of these ye have done it to me."

And agency, as addressed by Elder Romney. Also President Benson, and every other prophet, apostle and virtually every book of scripture in recorded history. Satan's plan was to force us to do the "right thing," the war over agency has never stopped since that moment, despite all the frills, misnomers, and euphemisms given to it.

God loves the cheerful giver, devoted, sincere tither offerer, and loving charity giver.

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