The Strongest Public Domain Evidence of 9-11 Fraud

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SpeedRacer wrote:So is Elder Cook in on it? He testified that a plane flew into the second tower.

/duck and cover
Flight 175, 60th floor. See the lengthy article above. There are facts, contradictions and questions throughout. Has anybody scanned through it? It's quite informative.

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SpeedRacer wrote:So is Elder Cook in on it? He testified that a plane flew into the second tower.

/duck and cover
A plane did fly into the second tower. What's your point?


A plane flying into the tower was not sufficient to pulverize it in 10 seconds (practically free fall speed), which contradicts all known laws of physics, unless explosives/metal cutting incendiaries were used, as we have overwhelming evidence in public domain that they were.

Also, don't forget that no plane flew into WTC7 tower, yet it too collapsed in almost perfect symmetry at perfect free-fall into its own footprint for over 100 feet. That is impossible to achieve unless almost all supporting columns were severed simultaneously and completely. Random fires do not, and cannot do that.

If Elder Cook is clueless it is nothing new. Jacob was a prophet of God, yet for 22 years he was clueless that his son was alive in Egypt.

Nothing new here.

Truth speaks for itself, and is as unimpeachable as the throne of God. You cannot prevail against it, as you cannot prevail against God.

Learn this.

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LoveIsTruth wrote:If Elder Cook is clueless it is nothing new. Jacob was a prophet of God, yet for 22 years he was clueless that his son was alive in Egypt.

Nothing new here.
He also was clueless that 10 of his sons hated Joseph.

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SpeedRacer wrote:So is Elder Cook in on it? He testified that a plane flew into the second tower.

/duck and cover

Hey Speed, it seems you are new to the concept of 9/11 being an inside job. I'd say I only remember one person posting on this thread that the planes were digitally implanted on the live feed footage of the explosions. I would say that this theory is most likely a product of devious disinformation with the intent of DE-legitimitizing those who want to expose the real cover up. Yes, planes flew into the WTC. But planes alone did not bring the towers down.

There are a few theories about the planes and the hijackers.

1. They were remotely flown into the towers with real terrorists who believed they were carrying out a real terrorist attack, but while in the process of trying to control the plane, realized they had no control over it. While our government foresaw the attack coming and "helped it along".

2. They were actually flown into the towers with real terrorists who believed they were carrying out a real terrorist attack while our government foresaw the attack coming and "helped it along".

3. They were remotely flown into the towers with CIA undercover assets (Atta and others) who believed they were doing an undercover op to serve their country, but were burned to be real terrorists after their deaths. They did not know that the planes were going to crash.

4. The original planes that took off were not the ones to actually hit the towers.

There are other theories, but can't think of them at the moment.

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UK Man (Tony Rooke) Wins Court Victory Over BBC for 9/11 Coverup Broadcast - Big victory for 9/11 scientific truth:

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/uk- ... c-for.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Tony Rooke refused to pay a TV license fee because the BBC intentionally misrepresented facts about the 9/11 attacks, he alleged. It is widely known that the BBC reported the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 over 20 minutes before it occurred. WTC 7 was a 47-story skyscraper that was not hit by a plane on 9/11 but collapsed at free-fall speed later that day.

So Rooke said the BBC had to have had prior knowledge to a terror attack making them complicit in the attack. He presented the BBC footage to the judge along with a slew of other evidence, and the judge agreed that Rooke had a reasonable case to protest. Rooke was found not guilty and he was not fined for failure to pay the licensing fee.
Rooke had a lot of fire power lined up to help with his case, including Niels Harrit standing in the wings, but the judge was convinced Rooke was justified without bringing out all of the big guns. Niels had made mincemeat of a BBC interviewer about a year earlier, yet they used out-of-context snippets from the interview in a most dishonest fashion to try to discredit him and 9/11 truth.

I'm guessing Niels was tickled pink over this outcome.


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Brilliant! An honest judge! Miracles do happen! Thank God!!!

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LoveIsTruth wrote:Brilliant! An honest judge! Miracles do happen! Thank God!!!
(With a little sarcasm) What if the judge didn't want there to be anymore attention brought to the case and more facts brought up about 911?

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Sheol27 wrote:
LoveIsTruth wrote:Brilliant! An honest judge! Miracles do happen! Thank God!!!
(With a little sarcasm) What if the judge didn't want there to be anymore attention brought to the case and more facts brought up about 911?
Good point. Probably true.

However many American judges wouldn't let him bring witnesses AND would have still forced him to pay. So this one was at least half decent.

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Study: Conspiracy theorists’ sane; government dupes crazy, hostile

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July 13, 2013

Recent studies by psychologists and social scientists in the US and UK suggest that contrary to mainstream media stereotypes, those labeled “conspiracy theorists” appear to be saner than those who accept the official versions of contested events.

The most recent study was published on July 8th by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent (UK). Entitled “What about Building 7? A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories,” the study compared “conspiracist” (pro-conspiracy theory) and “conventionalist” (anti-conspiracy) comments at news websites.

The authors were surprised to discover that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventionalist ones: “Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist.” In other words, among people who comment on news articles, those who disbelieve government accounts of such events as 9/11 and the JFK assassination outnumber believers by more than two to one. That means it is the pro-conspiracy commenters who are expressing what is now the conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters are becoming a small, beleaguered minority.

Perhaps because their supposedly mainstream views no longer represent the majority, the anti-conspiracy commenters often displayed anger and hostility: “The research… showed that people who favoured the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile when trying to persuade their rivals.”

Additionally, it turned out that the anti-conspiracy people were not only hostile, but fanatically attached to their own conspiracy theories as well. According to them, their own theory of 9/11 – a conspiracy theory holding that 19 Arabs, none of whom could fly planes with any proficiency, pulled off the crime of the century under the direction of a guy on dialysis in a cave in Afghanistan – was indisputably true. The so-called conspiracists, on the other hand, did not pretend to have a theory that completely explained the events of 9/11: “For people who think 9/11 was a government conspiracy, the focus is not on promoting a specific rival theory, but in trying to debunk the official account.”

In short, the new study by Wood and Douglas suggests that the negative stereotype of the conspiracy theorist – a hostile fanatic wedded to the truth of his own fringe theory – accurately describes the people who defend the official account of 9/11, not those who dispute it.

...

But now, thanks to the internet, people who doubt official stories are no longer excluded from public conversation; the CIA’s 44-year-old campaign to stifle debate using the “conspiracy theory” smear is nearly worn-out. In academic studies, as in comments on news articles, pro-conspiracy voices are now more numerous – and more rational – than anti-conspiracy ones.

No wonder the anti-conspiracy people are sounding more and more like a bunch of hostile, paranoid cranks.


Read full article here: http://www.infowars.com/study-conspirac ... y-hostile/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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LoveIsTruth wrote:Study: Conspiracy theorists’ sane; government dupes crazy, hostile

presstv.ir

July 13, 2013

Recent studies by psychologists and social scientists in the US and UK suggest that contrary to mainstream media stereotypes, those labeled “conspiracy theorists” appear to be saner than those who accept the official versions of contested events.

The most recent study was published on July 8th by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent (UK). Entitled “What about Building 7? A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories,” the study compared “conspiracist” (pro-conspiracy theory) and “conventionalist” (anti-conspiracy) comments at news websites.

The authors were surprised to discover that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventionalist ones: “Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist.” In other words, among people who comment on news articles, those who disbelieve government accounts of such events as 9/11 and the JFK assassination outnumber believers by more than two to one. That means it is the pro-conspiracy commenters who are expressing what is now the conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters are becoming a small, beleaguered minority.

Perhaps because their supposedly mainstream views no longer represent the majority, the anti-conspiracy commenters often displayed anger and hostility: “The research… showed that people who favoured the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile when trying to persuade their rivals.”

Additionally, it turned out that the anti-conspiracy people were not only hostile, but fanatically attached to their own conspiracy theories as well. According to them, their own theory of 9/11 – a conspiracy theory holding that 19 Arabs, none of whom could fly planes with any proficiency, pulled off the crime of the century under the direction of a guy on dialysis in a cave in Afghanistan – was indisputably true. The so-called conspiracists, on the other hand, did not pretend to have a theory that completely explained the events of 9/11: “For people who think 9/11 was a government conspiracy, the focus is not on promoting a specific rival theory, but in trying to debunk the official account.”

In short, the new study by Wood and Douglas suggests that the negative stereotype of the conspiracy theorist – a hostile fanatic wedded to the truth of his own fringe theory – accurately describes the people who defend the official account of 9/11, not those who dispute it.

...

But now, thanks to the internet, people who doubt official stories are no longer excluded from public conversation; the CIA’s 44-year-old campaign to stifle debate using the “conspiracy theory” smear is nearly worn-out. In academic studies, as in comments on news articles, pro-conspiracy voices are now more numerous – and more rational – than anti-conspiracy ones.

No wonder the anti-conspiracy people are sounding more and more like a bunch of hostile, paranoid cranks.


Read full article here: http://www.infowars.com/study-conspirac ... y-hostile/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Emphasizing from article:

The extreme irrationality of those who attack “conspiracy theories” has been ably exposed by Communications professors Ginna Husting and Martin Orr of Boise State University. In a 2007 peer-reviewed article entitled “Dangerous Machinery: ‘Conspiracy Theorist’ as a Transpersonal Strategy of Exclusion,” they wrote:

“If I call you a conspiracy theorist, it matters little whether you have actually claimed that a conspiracy exists or whether you have simply raised an issue that I would rather avoid… By labeling you, I strategically exclude you from the sphere where public speech, debate, and conflict occur.”

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It's possible that some years from now, Americans (or whatever we'll be called then) will be told by the government that 911 never really occurred, that ground zero is really an art structure created by some artist with a wild imagination.

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A new program being ramped up by A&E 9/11 truth, called: ReThink911. Located at: http://www.zengardner.com/rethink911-a- ... st-chance/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Three articles on the new program can be seen on the front panel/home page of: http://www.ae911truth.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Be sure you watch the embedded video, also directly from YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3cwpb8RcMU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and shown below. It shows the north face of Bldg 7, with the incredible squibs shooting out and up.
ReThink911: A Taste of Things to Come. America’s Last Chance?
Monday, July 15th, 2013. Filed under: 9/11 Activism Big Brother Consciousness

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Thanks, Larsen B!

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Reality Check
New poll: Those who believe government lie about WTC7 are now a MINORITY!




"when you start asking questions about Building 7, the public is even more skeptical. 46% suspect or are sure it was controlled demolition, compared to 28% who say it was fires (the official story), and 27% who don’t know. And of those polled, the largest group, 41% support a new investigation of Building 7's collapse, compared to 22% who opposed.

What you need to know, is that the idea that we rethink 9/11 some would call unpatriotic, others would call conspiratorial, but increasingly, those folks are now in the minority."

Read more: http://benswann.com/reality-check-more- ... nking-911/

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NICELY DONE!!

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Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory - The Pentagon


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And why is Jesse Ventura no longer living in the States? Former Navy Seal gone awol from the USSA. Apparently when he was governor, he had had enough.

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Crap... this thread is open again? :-s

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12 year anniversary! And still no justice. Yeah, due to the time of the year and the topic, it is open again. Truth shall prevail.

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larsenb wrote:A new program being ramped up by A&E 9/11 truth, called: ReThink911. Located at: http://www.zengardner.com/rethink911-a- ... st-chance/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Three articles on the new program can be seen on the front panel/home page of: http://www.ae911truth.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Be sure you watch the embedded video, also directly from YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3cwpb8RcMU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and shown below. It shows the north face of Bldg 7, with the incredible squibs shooting out and up.
ReThink911: A Taste of Things to Come. America’s Last Chance?
Monday, July 15th, 2013. Filed under: 9/11 Activism Big Brother Consciousness

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ReThink911: Go to http://ReThink911.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and donate to the city of your choice to help make ReThink911 a viral phenomenon in September 2013.

Through Monday, July 15 receive your own ReThink911 t-shirt with a donation of at least $100. Receive a free ReThink911 bumper sticker with a donation of at least $50 (this offer applies only to residents of the U.S. and Canada).
Just remember, FDR once said "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." Wasn't 911 merely a planned event as an excuse to get involved in war? There are plenty of people that say it was.

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There is a new documentary on 9/11 and I'm finding it very well done.

Review written by Dr. David Ray Griffin--
Review of "September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor." A documentary by Massimo Mazzucco.

David Ray Griffin

There have been several good films and videos about 9/11. But the new film by award-winning film-maker Massimo Mazzucco is in a class by itself.

For those of us who have been working on 9/11 for a long time, this is the film we have been waiting for.

Whereas there are excellent films treating the falsity of particular parts of the official account, such as the Twin Towers or WTC 7, Mazzucco has given us a comprehensive documentary treatment of 9/11, dealing with virtually all of the issues.
There have, of course, been films that treated the fictional official story as true. And there are films that use fictional stories to portray people’s struggles after starting to suspect the official story to be false.

But there is no fiction in Mazzucco’s film – except in the sense that it clearly and relentlessly exposes every part of the official account as fictional.

Because of his intent at completeness, Mazzucco has given us a 5-hour film. It is so fascinating and fast-paced that many will want to watch it in one sitting. But this is not necessary, as the film, which fills 3 DVDs, consists of 7 parts, each of which is divided into many short chapters.

These 7 parts treat Air Defence, The Hijackers, The Airplanes, The Pentagon, Flight 93, The Twin Towers, and Building 7. In each part, after presenting facts that contradict the official story, Mazzucco deals with the claims of the debunkers (meaning those who try to debunk the evidence provided by the 9/11 research community).

The Introduction, reflecting the film’s title, deals with 12 uncanny parallels between Pearl Harbor and September 11.

The film can educate people who know nothing about 9/11 (beyond the official story), those with a moderate amount of knowledge about the various problems with the official story, and even by experts. (I myself learned many things.)

Mazzucco points out that his film covers 12 years of public debate about 9/11. People who have been promoting 9/11 truth for many of these years will see that their labors have been well-rewarded: There is now a high-quality, carefully-documented film that dramatically shows the official story about 9/11 to be a fabrication through and through.

This is truly the film we have been waiting for.
___________

Availability: The film is freely available to the world at:

1. The film-maker's own website, complete with detailed index: http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules ... &artid=167" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2. On YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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farfromhome wrote:There is a new documentary on 9/11 and I'm finding it very well done.

Review written by Dr. David Ray Griffin--
Review of "September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor." A documentary by Massimo Mazzucco.

David Ray Griffin

There have been several good films and videos about 9/11. But the new film by award-winning film-maker Massimo Mazzucco is in a class by itself.

For those of us who have been working on 9/11 for a long time, this is the film we have been waiting for.

Whereas there are excellent films treating the falsity of particular parts of the official account, such as the Twin Towers or WTC 7, Mazzucco has given us a comprehensive documentary treatment of 9/11, dealing with virtually all of the issues.
There have, of course, been films that treated the fictional official story as true. And there are films that use fictional stories to portray people’s struggles after starting to suspect the official story to be false.

But there is no fiction in Mazzucco’s film – except in the sense that it clearly and relentlessly exposes every part of the official account as fictional.

Because of his intent at completeness, Mazzucco has given us a 5-hour film. It is so fascinating and fast-paced that many will want to watch it in one sitting. But this is not necessary, as the film, which fills 3 DVDs, consists of 7 parts, each of which is divided into many short chapters.

These 7 parts treat Air Defence, The Hijackers, The Airplanes, The Pentagon, Flight 93, The Twin Towers, and Building 7. In each part, after presenting facts that contradict the official story, Mazzucco deals with the claims of the debunkers (meaning those who try to debunk the evidence provided by the 9/11 research community).

The Introduction, reflecting the film’s title, deals with 12 uncanny parallels between Pearl Harbor and September 11.

The film can educate people who know nothing about 9/11 (beyond the official story), those with a moderate amount of knowledge about the various problems with the official story, and even by experts. (I myself learned many things.)

Mazzucco points out that his film covers 12 years of public debate about 9/11. People who have been promoting 9/11 truth for many of these years will see that their labors have been well-rewarded: There is now a high-quality, carefully-documented film that dramatically shows the official story about 9/11 to be a fabrication through and through.

This is truly the film we have been waiting for.
___________

Availability: The film is freely available to the world at:

1. The film-maker's own website, complete with detailed index: http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules ... &artid=167" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2. On YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks for posting this. You beat me to it. I've broadcast this to my email list and encourage everyone else to do the same.


I've read a few of Griffin's books and have never seem his allegations seriously refuted. Anyone supporting the official story needs to cover the same ground Griffin has by reading his books and trying to refute them. Lots of luck. If they don't do so, they really haven't come to grips with the real issues.

I just want to highlight from his quote above for emphasis:
Mazzucco points out that his film covers 12 years of public debate about 9/11. People who have been promoting 9/11 truth for many of these years will see that their labors have been well-rewarded: There is now a high-quality, carefully-documented film that dramatically shows the official story about 9/11 to be a fabrication through and through.

This is truly the film we have been waiting for.

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freedomfighter wrote:
SpeedRacer wrote:So is Elder Cook in on it? He testified that a plane flew into the second tower.

/duck and cover
Flight 175, 60th floor. See the lengthy article above. There are facts, contradictions and questions throughout. Has anybody scanned through it? It's quite informative.
Don't want to learn anything, huh? Figures. Here it is again: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14104&start=3090" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Look for, DETAILED EVIDENCE AND COMMENTARY FROM VARIOUS SOURCES GENERAL DETAILS OF OFFICIAL VERSION:

But, hey, there's no conspiracy, right?

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Wow! This is the mother of all 9-11 Documentaries!

(Thanks guys!)

Thoroughly and utterly it shreds the official lie.
It presents new evidence.
It is brilliant, irrefutable and conclusive.

(The only thing they did not mention is the $2.3 trillion that were missing from Pentagon, that were announced by Rumsfeld THE DAY BEFORE 9-11, that were investigated, and all the people and records of which investigation were conveniently destroyed by the strike on Pentagon on 9-11. What are the chances of that?)

"September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor"

Part 1


Part 2


Part 3



Find the detailed time index of the videos here:
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules ... &artid=167" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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