Globalist Conspiracy

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Globalist Conspiracy

Postby lundbaek » Sat May 13, 2017 4:21 pm

I believe there is a conspiracy of powerful elitists to surrender America’s independence and national sovereignty to a globalist New World Order. I believe the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderbergs are especially culpable in this evil subterfuge of our liberties. I believe the international “war on terror” is a ruse contrived by the globalist5s to assist the goals of the central banks to create global government, and that both the illegal immigration and refugee crises have also been contrived to advance the globalist agenda.

Please keep replies short. Do you believe this much, or do you perceive things much differently ?

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby Older/wiser? » Sat May 13, 2017 4:40 pm

I am sure you are right as the opposition would be just as organized as the Lords side, also filling the earth. Knowing this doesn't make it possible to change it. Yes on a local level we vote. This great evil wasn't established yesterday and is above us because we gradually became acquainted and came to enjoy Babylon. So what's your plan to break free? I think we gave up that ability along time ago, so what do you suggest we do that would make the difference?

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby lundbaek » Sat May 13, 2017 5:20 pm

I do not think we will be able to reverse the course into tyranny that America is on now. Those "murderous combinations" that Moroni, and more recently President Benson (1988) and President Boyd Packer (2010) warned us about have gotten above us. I look to "The Cleansing of America", as outlined by Dr. W.C. Skousen in his book of that title, for understanding of what to expect - after having read carefully the scriptural and other references he used to document his opinions. However, I still feel constrained to continue pursuing my personal agenda, which is why I am active in the East Valley Tea Party, the John Birch Society, the Constitution in the Classroom program, and the Arizona and Maricopa County Constitution Parties.

Among my personal goals is doing what I can toward helping to prepare a people to restore the American government to its proper role of protecting our God-given and inalienable rights when opportunity arises . This includes:

1.) making Latter-day Saints aware of their divinely mandated responsibilities to study, uphold and abide by the principles of the US Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers, or as the Founders meant it to be understood, and to understand and support the proper role of government according to gospel principles. This involves promoting awareness of what I believe is a doctrinal imperative or divine mandate to learn and abide by the principles of the US Constitution as He who established it intends it to be understood.

2.) making people aware of the conspiracy to overthrow the freedoms of all lands, nations, and countries and establish a single global government. The plan to establish a global government includes gaining control over and making a shambles of America and destroying what is left of our constitutional republic government and turning our nation into a highly centralized socialist state.

My agenda is to help prepare that remnant that will help restore the Constitution after the "CLEANSING", although I rarely mention the cleansing. People, especially Latter-day Saints gotta learn about these things, even if they are not prophetic priorities. I guess they never were, but since 1987 they have gone from the "back burner' to the trash bucket.

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby Original_Intent » Sat May 13, 2017 5:57 pm

The fatal symptom of our day is not that men do wrong—they always have—and commit crimes, and even recognize their wrongdoing as foolish and unfortunate, but that they have no intention of repenting, while God has told us that the first rule that he has given the human race is that all men everywhere must repent.

“Beyond Politics,” 297 - Hugh Nibley

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby JohnnyL » Sat May 13, 2017 7:01 pm

lundbaek,
Yes.

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby lundbaek » Sat May 13, 2017 10:11 pm

As further answer to Older/Wiser's question "what do you suggest we do that would make the difference?" let me share something I do to initiate conversation about our "awful situation", which sometimes opens the door for me to broach the subject of the conspiracy to overthrow the freedoms of all lands, nations, and countries and establish a single global government.

When someone asks me how I am doing, I sometimes reply "I'm fine. It's the rest of the world that's messed up." or "I'm OK, it's the rest of the world that I'm worried about." Most replies to that are superficial. Occasionally, however, the person will pick up the ball and we have a meaningful conversation about our "awful situation" and things we think are causing it. I like to think I am at least planting seeds and watering sprouts.

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby Older/wiser? » Sat May 13, 2017 10:38 pm

Well this sprout just pulled out my cleansing of America and will give it a re-read this week. Though I fear we are sadly unprepared for the mental and emotional changes that will accompany us " awakening to a sense of our awful situation". To be prepared at least to the best of our abilities sets you free, it by no means guarantees that we won't suffer, if that is the Lords will so be it. Suffering because of our neglect , now that is entirely a horse of another color. Pres. Bush was a member of the Skull & Bones .

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby Buster47 » Wed May 17, 2017 10:26 am

lundbaek,

Although your steps to help prepare people for that which I also believe is now inevitable do not mention your personal preps, I'm sure you would recommend that people also add the step of individually preparing physically, mentally, and spiritually for themselves and their families.

The tipping point for destruction of a nation is reached when the majority of the people are "fully ripe in iniquity" and I believe we have just about reached that point. Ignorance of Constitutional principles and of the existence and operations of an international conspiracy has helped contribute to our dilemma and has allowed the secret combination to take a firm grip on the levers of power. There is no shortage of reliable documented information regarding our awful situation- just a shortage of people who will take the time to critically evaluate it and then act on the promptings they will receive.

I bought a number of copies of "The Cleansing of America" several years back and sent them to my siblings and children with the hope they would read them and apply what they read. Sadly most of them didn't read the whole book and didn't consider the contents seriously. I continue to send them information that I hope will motivate them, but so far for them "All is well in Zion". Thanks for your example in doing what you can in spite of what the world is doing. I believe that part of our judgement will be regarding our enduring and not giving up.

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby lundbaek » Wed May 17, 2017 11:29 am

The first two chapters of THE CLEANSING OF AMERICA seem most applicable to me and my wife at this time and out ages. I think we have a year supply of food for ourselves, but if we have to feed the neighborhood, as I expect it would come to that, it could get interesting. Our children, in their late 30s, are coping with their current challenges and have no interest in preparedness.

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby Sarah » Wed May 17, 2017 12:48 pm

I wonder if those who belong to this American/European conspiracy group, or who believe in creating a "New World Order," are at some point going to be turned on by other power-hungry nations who have the guns and man-power to take over the world.

What I see happening right now is that Putin is trying to play the good-guy and is courting favor amongst conservatives by supporting Trump. He is pretending to stand for the same principles as conservatives, but he really is a communist at heart. I think Putin really wants those who are in the know (conservatives) to have their suspicion remain focused on the European councils, bankers, or whoever these elitists are right now, so he can come in and "save" conservatives or the nation once it crumbles and these others are trying to assert power. Just my guess.


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Misreading Putin
Commentary for 3 April 2017


“Vladimir Putin is a powerful Ideological symbol and a highly effective ideological litmus test. He is a hero to populist conservatives around the world and anathema to progressives. I don’t want to compare him to our own president, but if you know enough about what a given American thinks of Putin, you can probably tell what he thinks of Donald Trump.”
– Christopher Caldwell (1)


“But now liberals are hopping mad with Putin. They could never forgive Russia for giving up communism.”
– Ann Coulter (2)


Ann Coulter has compared Russian President Vladimir Putin to former nationalist Chinese leader Chiang Kai-shek and South Vietnam’s President Ngo Dinh Diem. Christopher Caldwell, of the Weekly Standard, likened Putin to Ataturk. In making these comparisons, Coulter and Caldwell reveal their ignorance; for Putin is not a nationalist, neither is he anti-communist. He was, by his own admission, a communist by choice. As the Russian president admitted last year, “I’ve always liked communist and socialist ideas.” [Newsweek 1/25/16]

The context of Putin’s statement is rather curious. He had previously said that Lenin was responsible for the fall of the Soviet Union. And that is true, in a sense. For it was Lenin who taught the communists to take “two steps back,” and pretend that “communist ideology was dead” to gain economic concessions from the West. This policy was famously known as NEP (or the New Economic Policy). Of course, Putin would never directly touch on this subject. To communicate to his fellow communists within the establishment, certain elliptical formulations are used to baffle Western journalists. Yet, even so, a misunderstanding arose so that Putin found it necessary to directly confess his faith. And this confession, which might be dismissed as rhetoric, has long been seconded by deeds.

Therefore, Ann Coulter and Christopher Caldwell are seriously mistaken when they imply that Vladimir Putin is a Russian nationalist or a Christian. The fact is, Vladimir Putin cannot be a nationalist and he has never been a Christian. For more than seventeen years, Vladimir V. Putin has kept and preserved the corpse of Vladimir I. Lenin, which lies in state at the center of Moscow.

Coulter and Caldwell have some explaining to do. Why has Vladimir Putin (a so-called Christian!) kept Lenin above ground?

Lenin was a militant atheist, an enemy of Christianity, an opponent of nationalism. In an article titled “Socialism and Religion,” Lenin wrote: “Religion is opium for the people. Religion is a sort of spiritual booze….” Lenin further stated, “Our program is based entirely on the scientific, and moreover the materialist, world outlook. An explanation of our program, therefore necessarily includes an explanation of the true historical and economic roots of the religious fog. Our propaganda necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism….” Lenin also wrote, “Unity in this … struggle of the oppressed class for the creation of a paradise on earth is more important to us than unity of proletarian opinion on paradise in heaven.” He further wrote, “…it is essential for us to combat the inconsistency of various ‘Christians.’”

In a Soviet era communist textbook by K.H. Sabirov, (What is Communism? Progress Publishers, Moscow, 1987), we read: “The theory of cultural revolution, devised by Lenin, is a component part of his plan for building socialism. It was first put in practice in the Soviet Union, then later in other socialist countries.” This is the model by which devout religious people were murdered and tortured, imprisoned and persecuted throughout the communist world. And Putin knows this very well. The men who trained Putin were Stalin’s creatures. They were the destroyers of Christianity in Russia. According to Sabirov, “It is compulsory for all nations making the transition to socialism [to establish] … traditions of a progressive national culture.” A progressive national culture is one that “critically revises the cultural heritage of the past and eliminates the ideology of the exploiting class [which includes religion] and … establishes a new, socialist culture.”

Therefore, Putin spoke deceptively when he said, in an interview, that the “basic postulates of [communist ideology] were taken from major religious groups.” That is a lie and Vladimir Putin knows that communism inverts the terms of Christianity. Yet he says that communism derives from Christianity and other religions. According to Putin, “[Communism] is the same as looking into the Bible, or Quran: ‘thou shalt not steal,’ ‘thou shalt not kill,’ ‘thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife’ – all of this is prescribed there, you see, all of this is taken from there.”

Here Putin misrepresents the teachings of communism. Lenin was not a follower of the Ten Commandments! Lenin ordered thousands of executions. He ordered the confiscation of property. He did not respect divine or human law. Putin, therefore, is lying about Lenin’s ideology (communism). Putin is covering up the truth, the scandal, that communism was at war with Christianity from the beginning. Therefore, it is a terrible thing that Coulter and Caldwell have failed to notice how Putin’s talk of religion has always been deceptive. His supposed nationalism is also deceptive.

When Putin was asked about Lenin lying in state at the center of Moscow, he made the following curious statement: “Some even say about the [Lenin] Mausoleum … that it doesn’t correspond to tradition. What exactly doesn’t correspond to tradition?” Then he said that the communists had “intercepted tradition.” They did this, he claimed, in “accordance with the needs of that time.”

What does it mean to “intercept” a tradition? What does it mean to use this interception “competently” in accordance “with the needs of that time”? This is a Leninist way of talking. Putin is saying, in effect, that communism has captured (or intercepted) religion, and now uses religion for its own ends. It is sufficient that the Pope proves to be a socialist and is no longer a Catholic. It is sufficient that the Protestant Churches have fallen away from the old teaching and are edging toward a communist conception of society. Under current conditions Putin has every reason to say that religion and communism are the same thing. His agent networks atop all the major religions are pushing socialism. Why shouldn’t he add fuel to the fire?

Yet, this does not mean that Putin is himself a Christian (as implied by Coulter and Caldwell). And this admission about Lenin, which is also deceptive, does not vindicate Putin as a nationalist. In fact, Putin’s nationalism is an obvious mockup. It is a counterfeit nationalism used to placate the Russian people during a period in which the communists have gone underground (in order to become more strategically effective, especially in the West). Lenin, whose mummified corpse stands at the center of Putin’s capital, signifies the opposite of nationalism. For Lenin damned nationalism as “the division and splitting up of the proletariat” to the advantage of the bourgeoisie. “The class-conscious workers fight hard against every kind of nationalism,” wrote Lenin. “both the crude, violent, Black-Hundred nationalism, and that most refined nationalism which preaches the equality of nations….” (See “Corrupting the Workers With Refined Nationalism,” by V.I. Lenin).

A man who refuses to bury Lenin cannot be a nationalist. And further proof of this is found in Putin’s foreign policy; for it cannot be denied that Putin supports communist regimes everywhere. Putin supports Angola, where the communist government won its civil war with Russian help. Putin supports China and North Korea where Russia has sent advanced weaponry and military scientists. What sort of nationalism is it, then, that arms communist states? A 2014 Xinhua News report out of Managua states, “Nicaragua modernizes military fleet with Russia’s help.” The ruling Sandinista National Liberation Front, under Daniel Ortega, pretends to be a social democratic party. But the Sandinistas have always been Marxist-Leninists. And the Venezuelan president, Hugo Chavez, was also a Marxist-Leninist – while pretending to be a left-of-center populist. In fact, many communist leaders have pretended to be something other than communist. Go as far back as you please: Mao pretended to be “an agrarian reformer.” Stalin was our “Uncle Joe.” We have been told, time and time again, that Ho Chi Minh and Castro were only communists because the evil Americans pushed them into Russia’s arms – yet another lie.

How quickly we forget the deceptions of the past. In country after country, on continent after continent, communist power is building. It is arming. And we are completely blind. We do not think there are communists anywhere. Our pundits, our “experts,” our strategists, have been fooled. Let’s not mince words. When the price of this is ultimately paid, and the dead are counted, and the material losses can no longer be reckoned, mankind itself will view the current malpractice of our writers and experts as unforgivable.

And so I have to ask: Have you forgotten, dear Ann Coulter, who our real enemy is? Clearly you did not pay close enough attention in 1991. You missed those telltales, when the angry mob in Dzerzhinsky Square somehow abstained from smashing that statue of Iron Felix; instead, a crane appeared to carefully remove the Father of the CHEKA, and deliver him safely to storage – from whence he may one day return. You evidently didn’t notice when the KGB failed to cut off the food and water and electricity from the Russian White House during the August 1991 Coup. You neglected to read Yevgenia Albats, Anatoliy Golitsyn, Vladimir Bukovsky and Alexander Litvinenko. Worse yet, you missed the Great Reversal: the colonization of the U.S. federal government by conscious agents of the international communist conspiracy – facilitated by the motherland of socialism. You failed, as well, to protest the Cuban colonization of Venezuela, the communist takeover of mineral-rich South Africa, the takeover of the Congo, and of Nepal; the subversion of Brazil through the Workers Party, and of Bolivia by Evo Morales, and of the West generally through the façade of social democracy and the alt-left conservatives. You only saw “liberals” as the enemy. You did not seem to realize that Stalin became a liberal so that liberals could become Stalinists; therefore, you do not now realize that Putin has become a conservative so that conservatives can become Putinists. Did you ask yourself, dear Ann, if the Berlin Wall came down to spread freedom to the East or Communism to the West?

Turning to Christopher Caldwell, I do not think he ever cared much for truth in these or any other matters. His career has been based on the repetition of the plausible for the sake of the expedient. By teaching the students of Hillsdale College “how to think about Putin” instead of telling them “what to think,” he offers up a distinction without a difference. To say that Putin is not a politically correct leftist or feminist fails to acknowledge that Putin is the leader of the Soviet successor state; and the policy of that state has always been to cripple the West’s military and economic potential by spreading nonsensical ideas through agents of influence. One must therefore see that political correctness was never meant to infect Russia or China. It was designed to infect the Main Enemy, the West. In failing to see this, and in fruitlessly insisting that Putin agrees with conservatives in the West, Caldwell is inadvertently helping Putin. Even worse, Caldwell’s depiction of Putin as an “elected” leader is a misrepresentation of fact. As in the case of Hitler, Putin first came to office by appointment and not by election. And given the closed nature of the Russian system, the killing of journalists, the muzzling of the press, the nomenklatura’s dominance of all the major political parties, corporations, banks and government institutions, it would be inaccurate to say that elections in Russia are free. To compare Putin with Ataturk is also nonsense; for Mr. Caldwell does not really know what Putin has done in Russia, or what Putin plans to do; so he cannot competently compare him with anyone. Failing to see that Russian politics has been a puppet show since 1991, he also fails to see that Boris Yeltsin’s “reckless opportunism” was indispensable to the communists, not to those who sought freedom for the Russian people. And then to blame Western capitalists for stealing Russian natural resources – which they paid for, by the way – is even more bizarre.

According to Caldwell, the West loaned money to the Russian oligarchs so they could rob the Russian people. But this is idiotic. The communist oligarchy in Russia has been robbing the Russian people since 1917. They don’t need loans from the West to do this! These loans serve an entirely different role, which Lenin once spoke of when he explained that the West will sell the Bolsheviks the rope by which the world bourgeoisie will be hanged. For as it stands now, absurd as it might be, the West has finally loaned the communists the money with which to buy that rope – that is, the tanks, bombers, submarines and missiles needed to prevail.

It is also worth noting, in this regard, that the Russian oligarchs – who were part of Moscow’s grand puppet show – were all recruited agents of the KGB. They did not earn their billions. They did not even steal their billions. They were given nominal control of large businesses. They were given bank accounts, and they were asked to read from a script. This script was prepared, long in advance, by secret Communist Party structures. It is common knowledge within Russia, among the upper levels of the KGB and nomenklatura, that Russia’s oligarchs were chosen and elevated by the Soviet state; for once the communist edifice was taken down, a new façade had to be erected in order to fool the West. The oligarchs were the appointed face of capitalist Russia, beholden to orders from the Communist Party Soviet Union underground. The purpose of this grand deception strategy was touched on by KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn in 1995, who wrote: “The final objective of this strategy is Sino-Russian world domination….” [Perestroika Deception, p. 223]

To have such persons as Ann Coulter and Christopher Caldwell writing erroneously on this particular topic, without the least understanding of the underlying reality, is dangerous because people are now more likely to fall for Moscow’s next set of lies. Please do not mislead our people. This is hurting the country. This is putting our existence at risk.

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby kittycat51 » Wed May 17, 2017 12:53 pm

lundbaek wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 11:29 am
The first two chapters of THE CLEANSING OF AMERICA seem most applicable to me and my wife at this time and out ages. I think we have a year supply of food for ourselves, but if we have to feed the neighborhood, as I expect it would come to that, it could get interesting. Our children, in their late 30s, are coping with their current challenges and have no interest in preparedness.
I've thought about this same thing. I have a couple of boys married and some still at home. We have sufficient for our needs UNTIL the married ones come back with their children. They are not prepared so that greatly would effect our supplies. I also would not let my unprepared neighbor suffer.

This reminds me of President Eyring's talk to the R.S. sisters October 2012 Conference. It pricked me in this regard when I first heard it. He is talking about serving others, but in time of food crisis, help feeding those without is service is it not? President Eyring stated:
"Like the sisters of an earlier time, you have responded to the Lord’s call to go to the relief of others. In 1856 the prophet Brigham Young asked the Saints to go to the aid of handcart pioneers stranded in the mountain snows. He said in that time of need to the members in general conference: “Your faith, religion, and profession of religion, will never save one soul of you in the celestial kingdom of our God, unless you carry out just such principles as I am now teaching you. Go and bring in those people now on the plains, and attend strictly to those things which we call temporal, … otherwise your faith will be in vain....

With all your differences in personal circumstances and past experiences, I can tell you something of what lies ahead for you. As you keep the faith, you will find yourself invited by the Lord often to serve someone in need when it will not seem convenient. It may appear to be an unpleasant and perhaps even impossible task. When the call comes, it may seem you are not needed or that someone else could easily give the succor....

Remember that when the Lord lets us encounter someone in distress, we honor the good Samaritan for what he did not do as much as for what he did. He did not pass by on the other side even though the beaten traveler on the road was a stranger and perhaps an enemy. He did what he could for the beaten man and then put in place a specific plan for others to do more. He did that because he understood that helping may require more than what one person can do....

That counsel can be hard to apply when the choice seems to be balancing a desire to do all you can to help others with the wisdom to be prudent in meeting your own needs."
"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me"

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby lundbaek » Wed May 17, 2017 2:07 pm

Joel Skousen, Editor of the weekly WORLD AFFAIRS BRIEF, believes that, as Sarah has suggested, "those who belong to this American/European conspiracy group, or who believe in creating a "New World Order," are at some point going to be turned on by other power-hungry nations who have the guns and man-power to take over the world." I refer you to Joel's article on that subject at: https://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keyto ... reats.html

I also look closely at events prophesied in Revelation Chapter 13.

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby Sarah » Wed May 17, 2017 2:11 pm

lundbaek wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 2:07 pm
Joel Skousen, Editor of the weekly WORLD AFFAIRS BRIEF, believes that, as Sarah has suggested, "those who belong to this American/European conspiracy group, or who believe in creating a "New World Order," are at some point going to be turned on by other power-hungry nations who have the guns and man-power to take over the world." I refer you to Joel's article on that subject at: https://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keyto ... reats.html

I also look closely at events prophesied in Revelation Chapter 13.
Yes, it ties into Revelation nicely I think. Thanks for that link.

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Re: Globalist Conspiracy

Postby Buster47 » Thu May 18, 2017 8:13 pm

Here are two of a number of Book of Mormon scriptures that indicate that there will be infighting among the modern Gadiantons:

1 Nephi 14:3 And that great pit, which hath been digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell—yea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end.

1 Nephi 22:13 And the blood of that great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall turn upon their own heads; for they shall war among themselves, and the sword of their own hands shall fall upon their own heads, and they shall be drunken with their own blood.

There are others that indicate that God will pour out devouring fire from heaven on the secret combinations operating in the latter days.


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