Muslim U.S. Government?

[BTH&T]

Saw this and was interested in what we LDS think?


Subject: READ THIS: DISTURBING INFO-Muslims now in control of
US govt.

OBAMA'S TEMPER TANTRUM AT A RECENT MEETING WITH TOP
U.S. MILITARY BRASS

In a fit of rage, Obama snaps at U.S.military brass: “Don’t you dare try
and paint all of Islam with the same brush." Showing his Muslim stripes,
Obama threw a hissy fit and stomped out of a Pentagon meeting about
the bombing campaign against ISIS over remarks allegedly tying the
Islamic State (ISIS) to Islam. His tantrum reportedly took place in the
afternoon of last week just prior to the president’s departure to Camp David.
It was an informal briefing on the expanded bombing campaigns to take place
in both Syria and Iraq. Halfway through the already very brief briefing,
President Obama stood up clearly agitated, and walked out of the room.
The casually dressed Obama returned to the briefing moments later with a
senior adviser alongside him, though his mood continued to indicate he was
still very upset. The senior adviser made a couple pointed remarks to the
Pentagon representatives, reminded them the president had already had a
very busy day, and then both she and the president once again left the room.
Within seconds, Barack Obama returned again to the just concluded briefing,
pointing at the still seated Pentagon staff and indicating how “inappropriate”
it was to “try and paint all of Islam with the same brush.” The president repeated
similar remarks, his mood going from agitation to outrage. His voice carried to
several other West Wing offices. The senior adviser, who did not originally return
with the president into the briefing, suddenly re-appeared alongside him, as well
as the president’s personal aide. She was smiling, and telling everyone “we’re
done here” which she repeated several times and then led the president back
out into the hallway.
"There are none so blind as those who will not see." When you read this you
will understand why Obama refuses to say the words "radical Islam."


I didn't originate this, but it check out with Google and Snopes…
Did you know that we now have a Muslim government? John Brennan, current
head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia. Obama's
top adviser, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents
still live. Hillary Clinton's top adviser, Huma Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother
and brother are involved in the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan,
is a Muslim. Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim.
Obama adviser and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council,
Salam al-Marayati, is a Muslim. Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid,
of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim. Advisory Council on
Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a Muslim.
And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself, Barack Hussein Obama.
It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the oath of office when he was
sworn in. He didn't repeat the oath properly to defend our nation and our
Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed he was given the oath again in
private? CIA director John Brennan took his oath on a copy of the Constitution,
not a Bible. Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy of the Qur'an.

Congresswoman Michele Bachman was vilified and almost tarred and
feathered by Democrats when she voiced her concern about Muslims
taking over our government. Considering all these appointments, it would
explain why Obama and his minions are systematically destroying our nation,
supporting radical Muslim groups worldwide, opening our southern border,
and turning a blind eye to the genocide being perpetrated on Christians all
over Africa and the Middle East. The more damage Obama does, the more
arrogant he's become! Our nation and our government has been infiltrated
by people who want to destroy us. It can only get worse!
If you fail to pass this one on, there's more than that -- something wrong ...
somewhere! Stand up Americans and take back our nation!

[Desert Roses]

This post is nonsense. The evidence that Brennan is muslim is slim at best. More likely he's atheist. And just because people who hold office are Muslim doesn't pose a threat to our country. While I don't agree with most of what Obama does, I certainly agree that those who are Muslims are not the same as ISIS ( a very radical form of Islam, just like FLDS are not "Mormons" because they are so radical.)

[Serragon]

I don't believe Obama is a Muslim any more than I believe he is a Christian. His religion is modern progressivism.

I think it is clear that he is sympathetic to Muslims and is antagonistic to western culture. But this does not make him a Muslim.

[SmallFarm]

Muslims are the rod of God's indignation similar to the Lamanites

[abelchirino]

I also don't believe he is a Muslim. He may do what he does towards Muslims just to get conservatives angry and provide a distraction.

There is a case to be made against certain religious beliefs though. Samuel Adams in his Report of the Committee of Correspondence
to the Boston Town Meeting (Nov. 20, 1772) called The Rights of the Colonists, wrote the following:

"In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practised, and, both by precept and example, inculcated on mankind. And it is now generally agreed among Christians that this spirit of toleration, in the fullest extent consistent with the being of civil society, is the chief characteristical mark of the Church. Insomuch that Mr. Locke has asserted and proved, beyond the possibility of contradiction on any solid ground, that such toleration ought to be extended to all whose doctrines are not subversive of society. The only sects which he thinks ought to be, and which by all wise laws are excluded from such toleration, are those who teach doctrines subversive of the civil government under which they live. The Roman Catholics or Papists are excluded by reason of such doctrines as these, that princes excommunicated may be deposed, and those that they call heretics may be destroyed without mercy; besides their recognizing the Pope in so absolute a manner, in subversion of government, by introducing, as far as possible into the states under whose protection they enjoy life, liberty, and property, that solecism in politics, imperium in imperio, leading directly to the worst anarchy and confusion, civil discord, war, and bloodshed."

As far as I know, Roman Catholics or Papists don't practice those beliefs anymore but now we have Muslims in the United States advocating the implementation of Sharia Law. Until all Muslims do away with those subversive notions, should they be extended any tolerance?

[gkearney]

Article VI, paragraph 3:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

[David13]

Islam is not a religion. It's a political system.
It is intended to conquer the world.
A radical Muslim wants to blow you up or otherwise kill you.
A peaceful Muslim wants one of the other Muslims to blow you up or otherwise kill you.
As they both believe you are an infidel and must die.
The other common thread they have is hatred of Jews. They have long hated Jews and have always wanted to exterminate them. It is one of the major reasons why they were so wholeheartedly aligned with Adolph Hitler during WWII.
I'd like to add, 'and they are coming to your town soon', but in all probability they have already established a large footprint in your town, from which they will carry out their two forms of jihad.
dc

[gkearney]

Islam is not a religion. It's a political system.
It is intended to conquer the world.
A radical Muslim wants to blow you up or otherwise kill you.
A peaceful Muslim wants one of the other Muslims to blow you up or otherwise kill you.
As they both believe you are an infidel and must die.
The other common thread they have is hatred of Jews. They have long hated Jews and have always wanted to exterminate them. It is one of the major reasons why they were so wholeheartedly aligned with Adolph Hitler during WWII.
I'd like to add, 'and they are coming to your town soon', but in all probability they have already established a large footprint in your town, from which they will carry out their two forms of jihad.
dc

The exact same charge that was set out against the Latter date Saints in the 19th century I would point out.

[David13]

Kearney, you are dreaming.
The 19th century LDS never declared a jihad. Nor carried out any jihad.
I guess that's your contribution to say MMM=Islamic Jihad.
That's like saying a grain of sand=California beaches.
dc

[gkearney]

Kearney, you are dreaming.
The 19th century LDS never declared a jihad. Nor carried out any jihad.
I guess that's your contribution to say MMM=Islamic Jihad.
That's like saying a grain of sand=California beaches.
dc

You really don't get this do you? In the 19th century some people claimed that the Latter day Saints did not deserve the protection of the constitution because they were not a religion but a political system. They used this false idea to justify political persecution of the saints. Islam has no central religious authority, there is no president or pope of Islam. It is no more correct to say that Islam has declared Jihad than it would be to have said that the Latter day Saints had done so in the 19th century, but people did say, mistakenly, that the saints had done so and justified depriving the saints of their rights, property and in some cases their lives because of this. Now we see some here willing to use the same twisted logic to do the same to our Muslim brothers and sisters. History shamefully repeating itself only this time, it is, ironically, a Latter day Saint calling on us to do so.

Now there are some radical followers of Islam, ISIS for example, who carry out acts not in accordance with that faith, just as there are radical followers of the restoration that have engaged in violent criminal acts. Fortunately for us most people do not judge the saints by the acts of a few extremists. We should extend the same to the vast majority of Muslims who are sickened by the deeds carried out in their name and under the banner of their faith.

[David13]

I think you are the one who does not get this.
The vast majority of Muslims are not sickened by the deeds carried out in their name at all. That's the point. They understand that it's all just part of Islam.
dc

[SmallFarm]

Kearney, you are dreaming.
The 19th century LDS never declared a jihad. Nor carried out any jihad.
I guess that's your contribution to say MMM=Islamic Jihad.
That's like saying a grain of sand=California beaches.
dc

You really don't get this do you? In the 19th century some people claimed that the Latter day Saints did not deserve the protection of the constitution because they were not a religion but a political system. They used this false idea to justify political persecution of the saints. Islam has no central religious authority, there is no president or pope of Islam. It is no more correct to say that Islam has declared Jihad than it would be to have said that the Latter day Saints had done so in the 19th century, but people did say, mistakenly, that the saints had done so and justified depriving the saints of their rights, property and in some cases their lives because of this. Now we see some here willing to use the same twisted logic to do the same to our Muslim brothers and sisters. History shamefully repeating itself only this time, it is, ironically, a Latter day Saint calling on us to do so.

Now there are some radical followers of Islam, ISIS for example, who carry out acts not in accordance with that faith, just as there are radical followers of the restoration that have engaged in violent criminal acts. Fortunately for us most people do not judge the saints by the acts of a few extremists. We should extend the same to the vast majority of Muslims who are sickened by the deeds carried out in their name and under the banner of their faith.

And it's not just about the past but the future. These kind of laws, once we use them against others, will be used against us.

[David13]

Sharia law will indeed be used against you.
And no, I am not calling for it.
dc

[SmallFarm]

Sharia law will indeed be used against you.
And no, I am not calling for it.
dc

No you're just calling for something much worse, you just don't know it yet

[gkearney]

I think you are the one who does not get this.
The vast majority of Muslims are not sickened by the deeds carried out in their name at all. That's the point. They understand that it's all just part of Islam.
dc

Oh is that so? And just how did you conduct this poll of over a billion Muslims to come to that conclusion?

[David13]

Sharia law will indeed be used against you.
And no, I am not calling for it.
dc

No you're just calling for something much worse, you just don't know it yet

Small farm
I know you can't read my mind, can you?
You can read my posts. And that's not what my post says, is it. (No question mark, that's not a 'question')
dc

[David13]

Oh is that so? And just how did you conduct this poll of over a billion Muslims to come to that conclusion?

gk
What poll did you conduct that shows anything to the contrary. (Not a question, no question mark, as I already know the answer.)
dc

[BTH&T]

Some interesting responses.

My thoughts are that there were a lot more people discussed than just BHO.
Part of the issue is just how many people have made their way into positions of authority/control.
I believe there is something to all of this, what I'm not sure.

As for Pres.O, he has an agenda....BIG TIME!
If it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck what is it?
In this case it is what he wants it to be. (an illusion)

[SmallFarm]

Sharia law will indeed be used against you.
And no, I am not calling for it.
dc

No you're just calling for something much worse, you just don't know it yet

Small farm
I know you can't read my mind, can you?
You can read my posts. And that's not what my post says, is it. (No question mark, that's not a 'question')
dc

You not calling for a law discriminating against a religion? :-\

[BTH&T]

In this current administration Islam is treated different than other religons. Why?
Obama shows contempt for religions other than Muslims.
Won't use the word terrorist for fear he may offend, but quick to condem Christians.
In no way do we need laws against the free practice of religion what we need is to fight those that have declared war on us and our way of life. We need to fight against evil where it exists, not pretend its not happening.

[David13]

Well said BTH&T.
You have insight, rather than false accusation.
dc

[SmallFarm]

Well said BTH&T.
You have insight, rather than false accusation.
dc

I'm waiting for you to point out where I made a false accusation against you. Are you or are you not calling for religious persecution against muslims?
Are you a passive aggressive warmonger then?

[BTH&T]

Well said BTH&T.
You have insight, rather than false accusation.
dc

I'm waiting for you to point out where I made a false accusation against you. Are you or are you not calling for religious persecution against muslims?
Are you a passive aggressive warmonger then?

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