Why Obama cannot be re-elected

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freedomforall
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Re: Why Obama cannot be re-elected

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George Alabaster wrote:Allow me to talk you down. I'm not a huge fan of liberalism, but I don't think Obama is all that liberal. At least he is a competent statesman.

He has weakened our defense by cutting back on the military. A socialistic tactic.
OK, so the socialist USSR also had a weak military? Anyway, our military budget is larger than the next 15 nations combined. Our budget is huge and was agreed upon by our generals. Or do you approve of unnecessary spending? Because that affects our deficit, which is also a national security concern. Even President Benson stated the government's responsibility is to protect the country, to have and maintain a strong military.

He has practically bankrupted this country so as to put us into our enemies hands. A socialist tactic.

Which socialist ever used this "tactic"? Anyway, our recession happened under Bush. Since then Obama has been trying to fix it through tax cuts and stimulus. Who jeopardized our credit rating by threatening not to pay our bills? The Republican congress. Read The Naked Communist, it is the goal of socialists to weaken the monetary system, in short, to bankrupt a country so they can take control.

He has enacted government run healthcare, against the constitution. A socialist tactic.

The Supreme Court, currently with a conservative majority, ruled that it is constitutional, and they are the final arbiter of these things. Read http://www.inspiredconstitution.org/jh_gk/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and you will find out that the supreme court has its own constitution, so you are incorrect. It was written by Jerome Horowitz, a Mormon and attorney.

He wants homosexuals to be able to marry without opposition. A socialist tactic.

Not aware that was a socialist issue. But it is an issue of liberty. Or do you hate freedom? Their sins are between them and their God, but our constitutionally secular government should at least be fair about it. Read The Naked Communist by Skousen. I also posted all the 45 points of socialistic agenda.

He wants churches to provide contraceptives. A socialist tactic.
No, he wants all women to be able to make their own birth control choices, the churches don't have anything to do with it. I also call that an issue of freedom. He called on the Catholic church to do just that, and you don't know this?

He wants women to be able to kill their unborn babies. A socialist tactic.

I think this one is actually endorsed by socialist countries. But many non-socialists agree, including 74% of American women. That's Democracy. It's also the law of the land. You can't call someone a radical if they agree with present US law. To dictate otherwise would be somewhat totalitarian in my opinion, a common socialist tactic.

He has interfered with free enterprise, with bailouts and loss of jobs. A socialist tactic.
There is no such thing as totally free enterprise. Farm subsidies have existed for decades, subsidies to oil producers likewise continue. Bush proposed the bailouts, and he's not a socialist. So-called free marketeers have been the ones who embraced globalism and shipped our jobs to China and other countries. Wallmart, for example has been responsible for most small business loss in our towns, that's what replaced Main Street. By weakening the monetary system, jobs are lost and businesses have to close. Watch this and then multiply it by hundreds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEhvF8b8Mrg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He has boldly mocked the Bible in front of the nation...and God. Doesn't sound like a Christian to me.
I have no idea what you're talking about. He's not a warmonger and he helps the poor, those sound like Christian principles to me. Watch this and then you will be enlightened. He boldly states that the sermon on the mount is radical. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RWHdQBMgb4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He won't even provide authentic documentation of his citizenship. The one everyone got to see is a fake.
False. Maybe, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Ngv16UQAA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi ... ficate.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I challenge you to create your own thread using these very issues and see what replies you get. Don't believe me.

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Even President Benson stated the government's responsibility is to protect the country, to have and maintain a strong military.
And I agree! We have the strongest military in the world! Nothing the generals recommended will change that.

He called on the Catholic church to do just that, and you don't know this?

That is just not true. The church employs many people and pays for health care, but birth control is provided free. It's the woman's choice.

By weakening the monetary system, jobs are lost and businesses have to close.

In theory I agree, but how has Obama weakened the monetary system? In stimulating the economy, the monetary system is also strengthened. The Republican philosophy of austerity in times of economic downturn actually weakens the dollar.

He boldly states that the sermon on the mount is radical.
If I were to suggest that since the meek will inherit the Earth, we should disband the Department of Defense, would you call that radical? I watched that video and his speech has a tone of sincere questioning, not mocking.

George

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hopeNlove
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George I can understand not caring for certain sources and I feel the same way about the CIA. I would never believe what they say happened as far as Benghazi goes. They are liars. I am not sure what you think of my next source, but you can believe what you want and I believe there was indeed a cover up by the obama administration and that they did ask for more security. btw, I don't know how on earth you could think that obama has stimulated the economy. His bailouts, stimulus payout and the QE1,2 & 3 have VERY much Weakened the economy! Those that have lost their jobs and businesses could tell you that much. There is NO way he has been good for our economy-ever!

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DRollingKearney
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Thomas wrote:Nothing will change with Romney.
Amen, amen, and AMEN!

Please see:
https://watchmanonthetower.wordpress.co ... e-hedge-5/

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Obama helped create issues he ‘inherited’

To the Editor,

The day Democrats took over Washington was not Jan. 22, 2009. It was actually Jan. 3, 2007, the day they took over as the majority party in the House of Representatives and the Senate at the very start of the 110th Congress. The Democratic party gained a majority in both chambers of Congress for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress, in 1995.

For those who are listening to liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault,” think about this date: Jan. 3, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress. Why? The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 12,621.77 that day. The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5 percent. The unemployment rate was 4.6 percent. George Bush’s economics policies set a record of 52 straight months of job growth.

Remember the day Jan. 3, 2007? It was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? Banking and Financial Services.

Then, as a way to spread the risk, Fannie and Freddie dumped $5-6 Trillion of toxic loans on the economy. President Bush asked Congress 17 times to stop Fannie and Freddie starting in 2001, because it was financially risky for the U.S. economy. Who took the third highest payoff from Fannie and Freddie? That would be Barack Obama. Also who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? That would be Barack Obama and the Democrat-controlled congress, so when someone tries to blame Bush, remember the date of Jan. 3, 2007, the day the Democrats took over.

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress, and the party that controlled Congress since 2007 is the Democratic party. Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008-through 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For 2009, though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep the government running until Barack Obama could take the office. At that time they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all these massive spending bills and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. If the Democrats inherited a deficit it was in 2007 the last of the Republican budget. That deficit was the lowest in five years and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending.

If Obama inherited anything he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is “I inherited a deficit that I voted for and helped create then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since Jan. 20.” So who is he fooling?

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Also see: Obama’s documented lies

Sources are included for each lie entry
http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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