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Limbaugh expects Obama to try to attack Romney on a comment he made to wealthy donors in May, saying he thinks 47 percent of Americans believe they are victims and entitled to government help. Limbaugh explained: “Romney should simply say, ‘Let’s talk about the middle class, Mr. President. You seem so convinced and so eager talk about the 47 percent. Let’s talk about what you’ve done as president. Let’s talk about your actual record as it relates to the 47 percent, Mr. President. Twenty-three million unemployed and underemployed. Five percent loss median family income. Fifty-four thousand dollars a year to 50,000. Forty-seven million Americans on food stamps.’ “You want to talk about 47, Mr. President? There are 47 million Americans on food stamps, and that number has increased geometrically under your administration. One out of six Americans, Mr. President, and all of them in the 47 percent in poverty. Unemployment, Mr. President, is almost 15%, when you count the unemployed, underemployed, and people in temporary jobs who want full time jobs. You call this a recovery? You call this progress? This is a miserable disaster, Mr. President. You and your policies are wiping out the middle class. You seem to believe that more taxes and more spending and more debt and more regulations will create jobs. Nobody else thinks that. The proof of your failure, Mr. President, is in your record, and you can’t blame anybody else for that. You can’t blame Hillary for it. You can’t blame George Bush for it. You just have to look at yourself in the mirror.”

Limbaugh concluded: “Obama knows that he’s full of it. Romney knows that Obama’s full of it. And Obama knows that Romney knows that he’s full of it. And because Romney knows that Obama’s full of it, and Obama knows that Romney knows it, that’s why Obama hates Romney.” http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/media-obama- ... en-starts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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I challenge anyone here to make a list of the ten most important issues to them. For me those include things such as abortion, unjust pre-emptive wars, an honest money system and an end to the Babylon system that supports the gadiantons, an end to the welfare state, etc.

I challenge you to make your own list and see if either of the big box candidates are likely to move us in the right direction on each item. Not "more likely than the other guy" but likely to actually change anything. If the answer is "no" you should be looking elsewhere.

If the best thing you can say about your candidate is that he will "help the economy" (an economy that is based almost entirely on Babylon principles and not Zion principles) if maintaining Babylon is the best argument for your candidate, please prayerfully consider which master you are serving.

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Women have become accustomed to strong words from politicians on equality and our role in the world. They are, after all, trying to win our votes. But when Mitt Romney talks about women, when he says he believes that we can do any job a man can do, I know from experience that he's speaking from the heart.

I served as Lt. Governor with Mitt Romney when he was Governor of Massachusetts. In fact, of the twenty top positions in the Romney administration, ten of them were filled by women, more than any other state in the nation. Romney's Chief of Staff was a woman - Beth Myers. As we took office, our administration actively sought to recruit the best and brightest women the Commonwealth had to offer. And Governor Romney wasn't just checking a box. He sought out our counsel, and he listened to our advice. We didn't always agree, but we were always respected. Mitt Romney didn't judge the people who were in his administration by their gender. He wanted the best, male or female. There's no greater evidence that Mitt Romney will represent all Americans than his record of treating all people fairly and impartially. His was a brand of leadership that got things done by bringing people together, not dividing them.

We need that kind of leadership today. People are hurting in this country, and women especially have been suffering. The numbers are stark. Five-and-a-half million women are unemployed. Under President Obama, the number of women living in poverty has climbed to a record high of nearly twenty-six million.

Despite President Obama's best efforts -- and despite his soaring rhetoric -- his policies simply haven't worked. In the two debates we have seen so far, we've heard the President give excuses for his disappointments, but we haven't heard him offer a specific plan or concrete proposals detailing how the next four years will be any different than the last four years. We can't afford four more years of the status quo. What we need is change, and that is precisely what Governor Romney is offering. He has a plan that will create twelve million new jobs, one that will get our economy moving again and lift Americans back out of poverty. He'll do it by offering strong leadership and by working across the aisle with Republicans and Democrats.

I know that he can accomplish these goals because I have seen him do it before. And when he does succeed, millions of women will have good jobs with rising pay and new opportunities to fulfill their dreams. That is the kind of empowerment and equality that we need now more than ever.

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In the second debate of the presidential election, Mitt Romney offered American voters a compelling alternative to the current security policies of the Obama Administration. Governor Romney forcefully presented and defended security positions that would put the United States on a very different course. Governor Romney charged that President Obama's policies on Iran failed, and gave Iran four years to develop a threatening nuclear program. Governor Romney challenged the Obama Administration's response to the attack in Benghazi which resulted in the murder of four Americans, including a U.S. Ambassador. Romney questioned why the Administration, especially UN Ambassador Susan Rice, repeatedly insisted that a video was the cause of the attack -- even days after it became clear that the video played no role in the deliberate assault to kill Americans. President Obama claimed that he did identify the attack as being a terrorist act, within a day after the attack. Clearly, Rice's words and the transcripts of the President's own remarks state to the contrary.

From a policy perspective, Governor Romney painted a sharp difference between his own views and those of President Obama, in regard to the issue of illegal U.S. immigration. Governor Romney opposed President Obama's policy of granting amnesty to illegal aliens. Moreover, Governor Romney opposed issuing State drivers licenses to residents who are not legal U.S. immigrants. Lastly, Romney opposed President Obama's statement in which the President expressed that he wanted to, "Create daylight" between the United States and Israel.The final debate on Monday October 22 will address national security and foreign policy. Secure America Now looks forward to hearing more on the differences between the candidates on these issues, specifically on Iran, the Arab Spring, Russia, and relations with U.S. allies.
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Before, during, and after the debate, Twitter exploded with comments calling for Romney’s assassination. Most of the comments contained some level of profanity. Some of the more benign comments were “I’m gonna murder Romney right now,” and (misspellings included) “Somebody needs to asassinate This mofo Romney.”
We’ve been reassured by a group called Think Progress, more or less a front group for the Obama campaign and closely aligned with Media Matters, that no one should be concerned, and only those that draw attention to the comments are to blame.
Think Progress had an article accusing the Drudge Report of “stirring up another race-baiting conspiracy theory” for simply linking to articles that show Obama supporters on Twitter commenting about how they want to murder Romney. These were legitimate tweets by legitimate Twitter users. This isn’t a “conspiracy theory.” People were calling for Romney’s assassination if he wins.
Many of the commenters calling for Romney’s death were angry because they thought Romney would take away their food stamps if he won. (Sounds like a conspiracy theory.) The very thought of being removed from their host makes them want to murder whoever tries to get in the way of their parasitic relationship. They’re acting like radical Muslims overseas who hold up signs that read, “Behead those who insult the Prophet Muhammad!” The Twitter comments might as well read, “Behead those who insult the Prophet Obama!” Yet, after all this, Think Progress is telling us, “There’s nothing to see here. Move along.”
NBC News carried a story detailing all 2 incidents where white Republicans had taken empty chairs and hung them in their trees (or “hanged” them, depending on whether or not you think the chairs were actually being punished). The media were calling these incidents “empty chair lynchings,” making the connection to Clint Eastwood’s “empty chair” speech, where the empty chair represented Obama. Since Obama is half-black, and since white people have lynched black people in the past, there must be some dark, racial connection, and these people (all 2) may have been making death threats against the president. The Secret Service is now “investigating” these incidents.
These 2 “empty chair lynchings” were newsworthy, but everybody should just ignore all the actual and detailed death threats against Romney. Just bringing it up is a “conspiracy theory.”
We all know that local, state and federal law enforcement monitor social networking sites. They scan for any “anti-government” rhetoric that they think might lead to a terrorist attack. People have been investigated, arrested and detained for Facebook and Twitter posts that are nothing compared to the Obama supporters blatantly calling out for the murder of Romney. Will the Secret Service or FBI be investigating all those tweets? Don’t count on it.

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OK, OI, here we go. 10 of the most important issues to me, in no particular order:

Stop all illegal immigration
stop undeclared preemptive wars
stop foreign aid
stop corporate welfare
stop individual welfare
stop entangeling alliances, including involvement with the UN
stop taxing dividends and interest
stop abortion
balanced budget

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2012 Elections, Letter from MITT and Paul Ryan.

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Many of you have asked, "How else can I help the campaign?" Here's an easy one.

We have started a special outreach to small businesses called "Unleash Small Business," which advocates reversing the harmful policies of the past four years and supporting a much more business-friendly approach. Central to this effort is our "Petition to Unleash Small Business." We would like your help to get thousands of signatures on this petition from owners, management, and employees of small businesses.

After signing the petition yourself, please send it to others and encourage them to consider signing it and sharing it with others as well. The key to success is forwarding this.

As you know, we are firmly committed to small business and we would greatly appreciate your help.

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan

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lundbaek wrote:OK, OI, here we go. 10 of the most important issues to me, in no particular order:

Stop all illegal immigration
stop undeclared preemptive wars
stop foreign aid
stop corporate welfare
stop individual welfare
stop entangeling alliances, including involvement with the UN
stop taxing dividends and interest
stop abortion
balanced budget
lundbaek, I have no worries whatsoever about how you will cast your vote. And I know that you know that neither of the big box candidates are going to do squat about any of the things on your list.

Oh, your list only has 9 items. :D :ymhug: OK we'll count getting out of the UN as a separate item. :ymapplause:

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"our duty today is allegiance to the Constitution as it was given to us by the Lord." (J. Reuben Clark, Jr., CR 10/62:8)

The First Presidency acknowledged that wisdom when they gave us the guideline a few years ago of supporting political candidates “who are truly dedicated to the Constitution in the tradition of our Founding Fathers. (Ezra Taft Benson, Deseret News, November 2, 1964.)

Said Thomas Jefferson: “In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." (Civic Standards for the Faithful Saints)

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After a lifetime of voting for and supporting Democrats — and even declining appointment to the U.S. Senate from a Democratic governor — Lee Iacocca Thursday endorsed Republican Mitt Romney for president.

The blessings of the onetime Chrysler chairman are expected to help Romney in two highly competitive states: Pennsylvania, where the 88-year-old Iacocca was born and raised and is still widely respected, and in Michigan, where Iacocca rose to become a major figure in the auto industry and won international praise for cobbling together the government-backed loans that saved Chrysler in 1980.

Iacocca, who now lives in California, issued a statement saying he backed Romney because of his “dozens of years of experiences in the public and private sectors” and because the GOP nominee has a plan that “will enable a stronger America.”

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Amazing, in a sad way, that so many Mormons think people like Iacocca and Romney know better how the United States should be governed than the Lord and his prophets.

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Letter from Zac, 2012 Elections

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I want America to know that a real recovery is within our reach -- we just have to choose it.

Our supporters have gotten us this far. Our 108,000 volunteers have made 3.5 times more phone calls and knocked on 13 times more doors than at the same time during the '08 campaign.

The strength of our efforts speaks to the importance of our goal. Together, we will restore the America we love.

We're almost there. Now is the time to show your support for America's Comeback Team, including Republicans up and down the ballot, by signing up to volunteer at http://www.mittromney.com/forms/romney-victory" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

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2012 Elections... Houston Chronicle endorses Mitt.

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The Chronicle’s backing of Barack Obama in 2008 broke a 44-year string of endorsing Republican candidates for president. Like so many others, we were captivated by the Illinois senator’s soaring rhetoric and energized by his promise to move American politics beyond partisan gridlock and into an era of hope and change. It hasn’t happened. Four years later, President Obama’s deeds have failed to match his words, much less his specific vows to cut the national debt by half and bring the nation’s unemployment rate to 6 percent. As Texans, it is a particular vexation that this president’s attitude toward the interests of our state has occasionally bordered on contempt, particularly in decisions relating to the NASA budget and the energy sector. The hurtful symbol of this attitude of insensitivity to Texans’ feelings was the administration’s choice to deny Space City’s bid to become home to one of the retired space shuttles. We do not believe four more years on the same plodding course toward economic recovery is the best path forward for Texas or the nation. And so we endorse the Republican team, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, in the belief that they can do better by Texas and the nation.

Concerns about the economy consistently register at the top for most voters, and for obvious reasons: Nearly 23 million Americans are unemployed, underemployed or have given up the job search. And national unemployment rates remain stubbornly high, especially among African-Americans and Hispanics.

There is a launching pad to reignite the national economy: It is the abundance of affordable domestic energy that has revealed itself so dramatically over the past several years. We refer primarily to the resources of natural gas and oil from shale rock that have become available through the technologies of horizontal drilling and fracturing.

These resources offer us a clear path to prosperity and energy security. This is a Texas story, to be sure. The state has huge shale resources, and they’ve been unlocked in large part due to the pioneering work of Houstonian George P. Mitchell.

But it is a national energy story, as well. Shale resources extend from Texas through Oklahoma and Kansas, east to Mississippi and north through West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York state. The picture of abundance is further enhanced by the riches in North Dakota’s Bakken oil formation that has transformed that state into a major energy center and given it the nation’s lowest unemployment rate. Add to this the upward revisions of reserves in the Gulf of Mexico and the potential for East and West coast offshore development, as well as in the Arctic. Such a gift.

President Obama’s failure to identify the economic opportunities these resources offer is mystifying. In our 2008 endorsement we cautioned the president against demonizing the energy sector – good advice that he has never heeded (see Keystone XL Pipeline). By contrast, Gov. Romney has listed energy atop his five-point plan to rejuvenate the economy.
It can. Let us count the ways:

Jobs: The abundance of clean-burning domestic natural gas has raised the prospect of a manufacturing renaissance across the Rust Belt in the Midwest.

National security: Increased reliance on domestic fuels will lessen our dependence on oil and gas from unstable, unfriendly countries. With each passing day, the volatility across oil-producing areas in the Middle East becomes more apparent.

Balance of payments: Producing our own energy at home will stanch the flow of dollars to nations such as Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, while expanding the revenue base for governments at every level in this country through job generation.

Transportation: Conversion of fleet vehicles to natural gas is already well under way, but much broader use can be made as infrastructure is expanded for refueling automobiles and long-haul 18-wheeler trucks.

Cleaner air: Natural gas burns 50 percent cleaner than coal, the fuel traditionally used by electric utilities and heavy industry.
In the development and expanded use of these resources, utmost care must be exercised to protect air and water resources. We join many other Texans in insisting on that. We also view this windfall as the logical bridge to a sustainable energy future for the country.

The other launch pad ignored by President Obama is the literal one – NASA, and specifically the Johnson Space Center. It has been an insult to the memory of American heroes like Neil Armstrong and Sally Ride to allow manned spaceflight to languish in the country that put men on the moon. The notion of paying $50 million a seat to Russia for commercial taxi service to the International Space Station is galling. Obama has failed to articulate a bold vision of his own for the agency. That failure forsakes a legacy of scientific achievement that has showered benefits on the nation. This approach to NASA has abandoned the American imperative of lighting out for the territory and exploring new worlds. NASA’s legacy must be reclaimed. In recent days we have seen a welcome return of popular enthusiasm for space exploration, thanks to the success of the Mars rover Curiosity. When NASA stuck the landing in a tour de force of technical precision, the international excitement was palpable. Let’s seize upon it. That will require more effective presidential leadership. Our endorsement of Mitt Romney is not unqualified. He must address the perception that he tailors his message to suit any given audience. And his economic plans lack specificity. There’s a lot of concern that his tax and budget proposals won’t add up without gutting our social safety net. “Trust me” is not good enough. Between now and Nov. 6, Romney needs to go to the blackboard and show us the math.

Let us stipulate: The Mitt Romney we are endorsing is the Massachusetts moderate who worked successfully alongside an 88 percent Democratic majority in the state Legislature to produce what the Obama administration says became its model for national health care reform. Romney’s ability to negotiate successfully across party lines in the Bay State stands in contrast to the president’s baffling disengagement from the national health care debate. Obama’s decision to leave essential details to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi, together with his failure to step in and insist that the Republicans’ version of health care reform have a fair hearing in the House of Representatives, needlessly polarized the process. Reports from his own staff that Obama is uninterested in process are troubling.

Should Romney be elected, we expect him to make good on his promise to negotiate in good faith with congressional Democrats on two major issues:
Health care: Chief Justice John Roberts’ Supreme Court opinion on the Affordable Care Act clearly left room for a political solution beyond the act. That solution is self-evident: It should combine the best elements of the Democratic plan signed into the law – coverage of pre-existing conditions, mandatory participation by all, coverage of children up to age 26 – with strengths in the Republican plan that were not included, such as freedom to purchase health insurance across state lines. There is room for debate over whether the tailoring of health care reform should be left to individual states. Texas is not Massachusetts.

The deficit, debt and spending: Forging a solution will require both cuts in government spending and additional sources of revenue. The opportunity for meaningful tax reform is within reach if the two sides will take it. As president, Romney would have specific responsibility for bringing true believers in the tea party wing of the GOP toward workable compromise. The challenges of the next four years leave no room for partisan triumphalism. Gov. Romney impresses us as a focused, task-oriented problem solver, both by inclination and by experience – a “fix-it” guy. A lot needs fixing in America, from a broken economy to a broken-down political system. Mitt Romney offers the leadership we require from the White House.

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Lundbaek,

The Lord will not govern the United States of America. He has left that task to the «voice of the people». One day, He shall claim His throne. But for now, better be governed by Romney than by «six trillion shooter» Obama.

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I'll bite OI

Here are my top ten issues, in no particular order:

Cessation of undeclared wars worldwide, and bringing the troops home (unless they are in strategic positions such as South Korea)

Balanced budget (a balanced budget amendment would also be nice)

Immigration Reform (that encourages legal immigrants to study and stay in the US upon graduation from a university, and sends the undocumented workers back to their homes--a la Canada or Australia who support High Skilled Immigrants over the USA who support Cheap Labor Immigrants)

An immediate end to Executive Orders and Signed Statements (unless they invoke a hero who has died, etc)

Auditing the Federal Reserve (and if necessary, ending it)

Return of declaring the value of money, to Congress.

End the corruption of the food industry and its collusion with government against small agricultural workers (this is the primary reason why I won't be voting this election--Monsanto has a threesome going on with both Obama and Romney).

Cessation of US involvement in the UN

The ending of abortion except in cases of rape or incest, or health of mother and/or baby, along with sex education that teaches people what will happen if they have unprotected sex, and be ready to accept the consequences of having a baby if they do have it.

Penalties to be given for those who transport guns outside the USA (so as to limit the burdens of the drug war in Mexico).

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2012 Elections, Letter from MITT.

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Last night was the last debate before the election, and the President failed once again to outline his plan for a second term.

With 23 million people struggling for work, and nearly one in six Americans living in poverty, we can't afford to give President Obama another chance to get it right.

I am running for president to help create a better future. Our plan to undo the damage of the last four years includes strengthening the middle class with 12 million jobs, and ensuring more take-home pay and better opportunities for all Americans.

Our supporters have joined our cause and transformed this campaign into a nationwide movement. Over 119,000 volunteers have made nearly 45 million volunteer voter contacts since Victory launched this year, including over 9 million door-to-door voter contacts.

If I am elected President of the United States, I will work with all my heart to restore strength to America. Our children deserve it, our nation depends upon it, and the peace and freedom of the world require it. And with your help, we will deliver that brighter future.

Thank you,

Mitt Romney

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Re: 2012 Elections....Debate

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Some of my friends on the right can be excused for wishing that Romney had gone for the throat tonight. Obama practically begged him to on the Libya debacle, and yet Romney didn’t take the bait, providing measured, competent, intelligent, reasonable, and dare I say, Presidential, answers each step of the way. Obama looked angry, petulant, and childish.
As Charles Krauthammer said, Romney played a serious game tonight, and Obama played small-ball, only small-ball doesn’t capture just how small he went. In between a multitude of accusations like, “you have investments in companies that ship jobs overseas to China” (you know, like, um, Apple), Obama was rude, dismissive, defensive, and ultimately, desperate. This was a very good night for Mitt Romney.
Neither the second nor third debate represented the kind of devastation Romney exposed the President to in debate #1, but that would have been impossible. What Romney did tonight was demonstrate a keen competence in matters of foreign policy, and eliminate any possibility of Obama being able to link him to Bush/Cheney. In fact, Obama himself looked far more like Bush/Cheney than anyone else has since, well, Bush and Cheney. It is a true irony of this election that those who claim to have opposed Bush and Cheney’s militaristic imperialism do not seem to notice Obama’s drone-killings,, maintenance of Gitmo, and open bragging about intervention in Libya, etc.
But I digress. The truth is that Romney was so prepared for tonight, it is uncanny. Obama’s people can not be happy that Romney so skillfully avoided the various traps they set for him.
I think each guy had a few one-liners of note tonight, but none was more effective (or true) than Romney’s defense of America against Obama’s “apology tour.” That America has not been a dictator, but rather freed countries from dictators, is indisputable. The Ron Paul Libs and the George Soros Libs have no response to it. We have not occupied anyone on planet earth, and in fact have been the greatest force for good and peace the world has ever seen (even if one disagrees with some of the policy decisions along the way). Romney struck a perfect balance between criticizing the President and defending America’s place in the world.
Look, the election is not over yet, but we could be on our way. Obama gained no ground tonight, and he needed to. Romney was Presidential, and that is exactly what you want from the man who will soon be President.
14 days to go, friends. God-fearing people are praying for Romney to close this deal, and put an end to the most disastrous Presidency in any of our lifetimes.

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Sarah, it might be intereting if you could explain why so many of us should support a candidate for POTUS who continues to show such obvious disdain for important principles of the US Constitution.



Mitt Romney has shown support of several actions or proposed actions of government that we should recognize as in violation of the US Constitution, in particular of the Constitution as it was intended to be understood by the One who established it "by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto that very purpose". Instead of leading the charge toward restoration of constitutional principles in government, like a pied piper he poses a danger of leading people away from support of a restoration of constitutional principles in government.

He’s already sending messages that he would retain most of Obamacare even if repealed. You should know that any FedGov intrusion into public healthcare is unconstitutional, and that his plans involve what Ezra Taft Benson called legal plunder .

He has made clear his support of preemptive acts of war without a declaration of war by Congress. To do so would violate the US Constitution (See US Constitution Article One, Section Eight.)

He has made clear his support of the Patriot Act, which allows homes to be entered and searched without probable cause, in violation of the US Constitution (See the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution.)

He has made clear his support of denial of trial and the right of habeus corpus to those accused (not found guilty) of perceived terrorism, specifically the National Defense Authorization Act, which would undermine the US Constitution. (See the Sixth Amendment to the US Constitution.)

He has made clear his support of "Bailouts" of floundering businesses with taxpayer money, which are not permitted under the US Constitution, and involve legal plunder. (See US Constitution Section 1, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, and also Ref. "Thou shalt not steal...")

He has spoken of his plans to involve the FedGov further in public education.

Most voters cannot recognize when a law is constitutionally unsound. Nor do they know what the prophets have said about the Constitution and the threats to it. Others fancy themselves smart enuf to think that certain principles of the Constitution no longer apply in our current circumstances.

It should be inceasingly known by now among LDS voters that Mitt Romney doesn't understand the US Constitution, doesn't understand his responsibility to it, and/or doesn't have the integrity to be guided by it. But that can be said of most LDS voters in the United States.

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Thank you lundbaek, I will leave those matters to you. :)

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Former SEAL Team Six commander Ryan Zinke is blasting President Barack Obama’s apparent willingness to cut defense spending, saying the U.S. Navy “deserves more than the president’s dismissive rhetoric.” Zinke, a Republican state senator from Montana, tells Newsmax that the prospect of a diminished Navy is “deeply troubling.” On Tuesday, the Romney campaign released a new TV ad highlighting the differences between the two presidential candidates on defense. In the ad, the GOP presidential nominee pledges: “I will not cut our military budget by a trillion dollars . . . That, in my view, is making our future less certain and less secure.” Romney has called the size of the U.S. Navy, currently at 285 ships, “unacceptable.” During Monday’s foreign-policy debate, Obama said the size of the naval fleet reflects changing military needs and technology. “Well, governor,” Obama remarked, “we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military’s changed … The question is not a game of Battleship where we’ve counting ships. It’s what are our capabilities.” Zinke’s reaction: “His condescending remarks, suggesting that a reduction in our fleet can be compared to having fewer ‘horses and bayonets,’ demonstrates an unprecedented failure by the Commander-in-Chief to understand even the most basic roles and missions of our great Navy.” Zinke served 23 years with the SEALs and won two bronze stars. He recently founded the Special Operations for America PAC in part to promote a strong U.S. military. Zinke continues: “Fewer ships to support the difficult mission of expeditionary warfare means greater risk of failure and loss of life. As the president so carefully pointed out that ‘we have carriers that have airplanes,’ he also failed to mention that our Russian ‘friends’ are busy selling radar systems capable of detecting even our newest stealth aircraft. When you add other core missions such as antisubmarine warfare, missile defense, and supply, it is reckless to suggest that our Navy can defend our freedom with fewer ships. Gov. Romney was correct in that diminishing our fleet strength to WWI levels will have serious strategic consequences and our Navy deserves more than the President's dismissive rhetoric.”

On Tuesday, retired Major Gen. Bob Scales told Fox News that the U.S. military is experiencing a “sense of unease” over what lies ahead as the nation winds down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. “I watched the Army and the Marine Corps almost break after 9/11, when too few soldiers and marines were applied to too many missions. We have to be very, very careful as we move into the future that when we reduce the defense budget, we don’t break the back of our services and force our young men and women to go to war unprepared, without sufficient numbers to win in the future.” “President Obama’s comment about ‘horses and bayonets’ was an insult to every sailor who has put his or her life on the line for our country,” Virginia GOP Gov. Bob McDonnell tweeted on debate night. Fred Fleitz, the longtime U.S. intelligence officer and the managing editor of Lignet.com, Newsmax Media’s global forecasting and intelligence website, called the Obama remark about bayonets “very insulting.”

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Texas authorities have threatened to arrest international election observers, prompting a furious response from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE). “The threat of criminal sanctions against [international] observers is unacceptable,” Janez Lenarčič, the Director of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), said in a statement. “The United States, like all countries in the OSCE, has an obligation to invite ODIHR observers to observe its elections.” Lawmakers from the group of 56 European and Central Asian nations have been observing U.S. elections since 2002, without incident. Their presence has become a flashpoint this year, however, as Republicans accuse Democrats of voter fraud while Democrats counter that GOP-inspired voter ID laws aim to disenfranchise minority voters.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott further fueled the controversy on Tuesday when he sent a letter to the OSCE warning the organization that its representatives “are not authorized by Texas law to enter a polling place” and that it “may be a criminal offense for OSCE’s representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place's entrance.” The letter goes on to accuse the group of having met with liberal organizations that oppose Voter ID laws. The OSCE put out an interim report last week saying that “recent state-level legislative initiatives to limit early voting and introduce stricter voter identification have become highly polarized.” “The OSCE may be entitled to its opinions about Voter ID laws, but your opinion is legally irrelevant in the United States, where the Supreme Court has already determined that Voter ID laws are constitutional,” Abbott wrote. “If OSCE members want to learn more about our election processes so they can improve their own democratic systems, we welcome the opportunity to discuss the measures Texas has implemented to protect the integrity of elections. However, groups and individuals from outside the United States are not allowed to influence or interfere with the election process in Texas.” Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) also weighed in, tweeting “No UN monitors/inspectors will be part of any TX election process; I commend @Txsecofstate for swift action to clarify issue.”

In letters to Abbott and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, whose State Department invited the 44 election observers, Lenarčič reiterated that the group is only there to observe the elections. “Our observers are required to remain strictly impartial and not to intervene in the voting process in any way,” Lenarčič said in a statement. “They are in the United States to observe these elections, not to interfere in them.”

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland sought to tone down the controversy during her briefing Thursday. The department is eager to avoid giving the impression that the United States is unwilling to submit to the same scrutiny it demands of others when it comes to human and civil rights. “Since the initial issue with Texas we've received a letter, both for Secretary Clinton and one for Texas authorities, from the OSCE assuring us and Texas authorities that the OSCE observers are committed to following all U.S. laws and regulations as they do in any country where they observe elections and they will do so as well in Texas. To my knowledge [Texas] is the only state that came forward and said 'please reassure us that you're going to follow our state electoral law.' And they have now been reassured."
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Former SEAL Team Six commander Ryan Zinke is blasting President Barack Obama’s apparent willingness to cut defense spending...
SARAH Ward,

You have to wonder if the Navy needed the budget increased so badly, why didn't they say so? Obama is simply following the recommendations of the Navy. I have to wonder if this criticism is politically motivated, many of our special forces , heroes though they are, are also right wing ideologues. (So is everyone over at Newsmax).

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2012 Election Jane Roe says Obama murders babies

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“I’m Norma McCorvey, the former Jane Roe of the Roe vs. Wade decision that brought ‘legal’ child killing to America.
“I was persuaded by feminist attorneys to lie; to say that I was raped, and needed an abortion. It was all a lie.
“Since then, over 50 million babies have been murdered. I will take this burden to my grave.
“Please, don’t follow in my mistakes. Do not vote for Barack Obama. He murders babies.”
The ad concludes with Randall Terry saying: “I approve this message.”
In 1995 McCorvey became a Christian and has since repudiated her role in Roe v. Wade. For this, we are thankful.
However, pay attention to what she said was the heart of the matter. She claims that she was to lie about being raped and needing an abortion. This should strike a cord here. The argument in Roe v. Wade was about the ability to have an abortion because of rape! She lied about it. This was the issue that Todd Akin brought up when he used the phrase “legitimate rape.” He wasn’t trying to legitimize rape. He was simply pointing out that there are women who lie about it. That does not mean there are not actual rapes. In addition, yesterday I wrote about Robert Mourdock and his stand on abortion, even in the case of rape. I also pointed to GOP candidate Mitt Romney’s stand on abortion in the case of incest and rape. No doubt, Barack Obama goes even further and basically allows for the murder of the child for any circumstance and even after the child has been born.
The thing that struck me in this ad is the fact that the case centered around Ms. McCorvey’s desire to have an abortion based on the false claim that she had been raped. Now I ask you, if you didn’t know these facts and you understand the implications of what this case has brought to our land, who are the truly pro-life people in office and running for office?

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