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Paul voted against every spending bill. That is key.
The fact that he put ear-marks into the spending bills is nothing more than trying to get some of the stolen stuff back to whom it belongs, but he voted AGAINST the theft.

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A friend recently wrote the following about Ron Paul:

"During the 2008 presidential campaign I was introduced to and invited to campaign for Dr. Ron Paul. Prior to that time I had just assumed Mitt was probably the best of the worst and would probably support him. But as I studied the various candidates I realized America was blessed to have a presidential candidate that understood The Constitution of The United States and more importantly had a track record in congress of more than a decade demonstrating that he made good, with EVERY OPPORTUNITY, to honor his sacred oath to uphold The Constitution. Now, you realize that I'm not referring to Mitt. Given his background Mitt should have been that person. No, I'm referring to Ron Paul.

Dr. Ron Paul traveled to Phoenix several times in 2008. During each visit I spend time with him and other volunteers involved in his campaign. On several occasions I spent time with him one to one. This gave me a unique opportunity to ask numerous questions and get to know better the man that is Dr. Ron Paul. I found him to be a humble, unassuming, a profoundly religious and "God Fearing Man." Ron is a true modern day patriot and as of his retirement from congress served faithfully the American people for 22 years.

I have only praise for the man that is Ron Paul and would give serious consideration to most anything he would have to say and particularly topics that he is most qualified to address - economics, the economy (national and international) related policies, trends, who is behind the curtains pulling the levers, foreign and domestic issues, etc.

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LoveIsTruth wrote:Paul voted against every spending bill. That is key.
The fact that he put ear-marks into the spending bills is nothing more than trying to get some of the stolen stuff back to whom it belongs, but he voted AGAINST the theft.
Fascinating logic...hey guys I want all of you to know that I'm against the theft...but I'm going to participate...

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lundbaek wrote:A friend recently wrote the following about Ron Paul:

"During the 2008 presidential campaign I was introduced to and invited to campaign for Dr. Ron Paul. Prior to that time I had just assumed Mitt was probably the best of the worst and would probably support him. But as I studied the various candidates I realized America was blessed to have a presidential candidate that understood The Constitution of The United States and more importantly had a track record in congress of more than a decade demonstrating that he made good, with EVERY OPPORTUNITY, to honor his sacred oath to uphold The Constitution. Now, you realize that I'm not referring to Mitt. Given his background Mitt should have been that person. No, I'm referring to Ron Paul.

Dr. Ron Paul traveled to Phoenix several times in 2008. During each visit I spend time with him and other volunteers involved in his campaign. On several occasions I spent time with him one to one. This gave me a unique opportunity to ask numerous questions and get to know better the man that is Dr. Ron Paul. I found him to be a humble, unassuming, a profoundly religious and "God Fearing Man." Ron is a true modern day patriot and as of his retirement from congress served faithfully the American people for 22 years.

I have only praise for the man that is Ron Paul and would give serious consideration to most anything he would have to say and particularly topics that he is most qualified to address - economics, the economy (national and international) related policies, trends, who is behind the curtains pulling the levers, foreign and domestic issues, etc.
Even ardent opponents of Bill Clinton used to praise him and state that it was most difficult not to like him.

He is most qualified to address behind the curtain folks pulling levers...always fails though to mention his own connections...

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Legion wrote:
LoveIsTruth wrote:Paul voted against every spending bill. That is key.
The fact that he put ear-marks into the spending bills is nothing more than trying to get some of the stolen stuff back to whom it belongs, but he voted AGAINST the theft.
Fascinating logic...hey guys I want all of you to know that I'm against the theft...but I'm going to participate...
He did not participate in theft. He VOTED against the theft, every time. No exceptions. The only thing he participated in was in returning some of the stolen goods to whom it belongs. Big difference. It's like saying "You participated in the robbery because you took some of the stolen things from the robber and gave them back to whom they belonged."

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LoveIsTruth wrote:
Legion wrote:
LoveIsTruth wrote:Paul voted against every spending bill. That is key.
The fact that he put ear-marks into the spending bills is nothing more than trying to get some of the stolen stuff back to whom it belongs, but he voted AGAINST the theft.
Fascinating logic...hey guys I want all of you to know that I'm against the theft...but I'm going to participate...
He did not participate in theft. He VOTED against the theft, every time. No exceptions. The only thing he participated in was in returning some of the stolen goods to whom it belongs. Big difference. It's like saying "You participated in the robbery because you took some of the stolen things from the robber and gave them back to whom they belonged."
He knew the bills were going to pass (despite his single vote against)....and he's gotten more than his share of the proceeds (one of the top pork kings).

He knew the robbery was happening...said hey guys I'm against this...but I want a good portion of the loot so I can continue to get re-elected year after year.

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If the reps don't earmark it, it all stays in Washington. I'd rather have all that money earmarked for the people of the states, rather than stay in the Feds hands. It's irresponsible not to earmark it. He did his duty.

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How about not stealing the money taking the taxes in the first place, Mr. Free Market...:)

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I agree. Which is why Paul would vote no for the bill. But that did not excuse him from doing his due diligence and earmarking funds, else if the bill passes and they are not earmarked, they end up in the Feds coffers.

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ajax wrote:If the reps don't earmark it, it all stays in Washington. I'd rather have all that money earmarked for the people of the states, rather than stay in the Feds hands. It's irresponsible not to earmark it. He did his duty.
Agree to disagree

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Legion wrote:
ajax wrote:If the reps don't earmark it, it all stays in Washington. I'd rather have all that money earmarked for the people of the states, rather than stay in the Feds hands. It's irresponsible not to earmark it. He did his duty.
Agree to disagree
Disagree to "Agree to disagree" :D

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Legion wrote:
ajax wrote:If the reps don't earmark it, it all stays in Washington. I'd rather have all that money earmarked for the people of the states, rather than stay in the Feds hands. It's irresponsible not to earmark it. He did his duty.
Agree to disagree
When he says "Agree to disagree" it means he is wrong and ran out of logical reasons to support his mistake. Good points AJ

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Legion wrote:He knew the bills were going to pass (despite his single vote against)....and he's gotten more than his share of the proceeds (one of the top pork kings).

He knew the robbery was happening...said hey guys I'm against this...but I want a good portion of the loot so I can continue to get re-elected year after year.
I am sure Washington stole much more from Paul's constituents than Paul was able to bring back. Probably hundreds of times more. So you are wrong again.

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LoveIsTruth wrote:
Legion wrote:He knew the bills were going to pass (despite his single vote against)....and he's gotten more than his share of the proceeds (one of the top pork kings).

He knew the robbery was happening...said hey guys I'm against this...but I want a good portion of the loot so I can continue to get re-elected year after year.
I am sure Washington stole much more from Paul's constituents than Paul was able to bring back. Probably hundreds of times more. So you are wrong again.
Listen to yourself...

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SempiternalHarbinger wrote: May 16th, 2011, 11:55 am
sbsion wrote:it's not a matter of being wise, it's a matter of TRUTH,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somewhere, he doesn't "jive", you're either "uninformed", stupid, or paid off not to understand 9-11, he is not stupid or uninformed!!!
Your right. He is not stupid or uninformed. sbsion, Ron Paul supports a new investigation into 9-11. Didn't you know this? He just wont do a thing do bring one about. He says just enough to appease his supporters while he does nothing while our Constitution gets shredded to pieces! Ron Paul is not going to be bringing any troops home by blaming Osama. Also, Ron Paul has been awfully silent about our unconstitutional president. In fact, for someone who knows so much about the Constitution it makes me wonder why he has not said one word about it, or taken a stand for the Constitution and we the people. What? Is he afraid to be link to the birther movement and be laughed at and mocked? Well, these days it seems like those who stand up for the Constitution are the ones being laughed at.
I keep seeing references to Ron Paul, and thought I would go through this old thread and bump up a bunch of quotes that I like, which point to the fact that Ron Paul is just another compromised, controlled-opposition guy!
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SempiternalHarbinger wrote: May 16th, 2011, 1:03 pm
Convincing everyone that 9-11 was an inside job, and that Obama is an illegal alien (however true that is) will not solve the core problems facing this country. That core problem is lack of understanding by the people about the proper role of government (which is to protect liberty i.e. private property) and nothing more.
What is Ron Paul’s Job? What is his oath to God? To educate? No.To teach principals? No. Its to defend and protect the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Solving 9-11 wont solve the problem? Maybe not, but it would be a great start! We could end all the war were in and be able to bring our troops home from all over the world, we could end homeland security, and we could abolish the Patriot Act. ALL in violation of the Constitution. Proving Obama eligibility will not solve the core problems facing this country? Maybe not. But least we are upholding the constitution. It would also be a huge wakeup call to the American people about those we elect to represent us. We would also be able to overturn every single bill Obama has signed as President because he was not qualified to do so including Obama Care. Yes, we are uninformed, and that is one of the core problems. But you can also add to that those who we elect. Not holding them accountable. They can lie all they want because they know they can get away with it. Do you think Obama would have ever run for President if he knew people were going to hold him accountable? Heck no. Because he knows he is not even qualified! He knew he had all the big banks and corporation backing him and he was going to walk right into the white house without anyone saying a word about him being unconstitutionally ineligible. Including Ron Paul. Ron Paul’s job is not to educate, It is not to protect our liberties or property. That’s is the Constitutions Job. And Its his job to preserve and protect it. He swore an oath to God he would do that but he remains silent while it gets trampled on! But at least he’s educating. Another core problem we have are these lifelong politicians who have been compromised for money. If you ask me we need to get rid of and vote every single incumbent out of office. Including Ron Paul. They all have to go! That's another place we can start.
So while it is important to expose the lies and conspiracies surrounding 9-11 and our lying illegal alien president, these are not the most important issues. If tomorrow everyone knew 9-11 was in inside job, and also deported Obama, not a thing would change in our march towards socialism, unless people embrace just such principles as Ron Paul preaches. So his primary focus is correct. The rest is (though important), still secondary. Priorities my friend, priorities!
Exposing lies and standing up for the Constitution is a heck of allot more than just talking about it. You say nothing would change be letting the truth known?? We will never get back the pieces of the Constitution that has resulted from these lies and they are not exposed.. Why did Moroni tell us in Ether 8 why he expose and tell us about the secret combination? So that evil may be done away with. Continue to believe that just talking about certain things is both supporting the Constitution and being a true patriot. Priorities? What are Ron Paul's Priorities? His priorities clearly not preserve and protect the Constitution. Not be silent fearing his political career. You all Ron Paul supporters are fine with his silence. I am not however. I need a leader who is willing to give his life as am I for the Constitution! Priorities? Are we seriously talking about Ron Paul's Priorities? Well its obvious that we think his priorities should be in two different areas. I believe the Constitution is the law of the land. Once I give up on that basic premise, America is no longer a free nation, we no longer have the potential of pulling ourself up out of the lawlessness it has embraced and rediscovering all that made us great and different. Does the rule of law and the constitution mean anything anyone anymore? Our REAL FOCUS needs to be on the rule of law. ALL our representative have failed us. NOT ONE person has stood up against this dictatorship. Including Ron Paul.
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Jason wrote: June 22nd, 2011, 12:46 pm
7cylon7 wrote:The next line would go something like this..... Ron Paul was murdered for introducing an executive order 11110 that allowed the US treasury to again print its own money thereby making the FED impotent. Abraham Lincoln and JFK meet the same fate over the same issue.

May God preserve Ron Paul from all evil machinations. I support Ron Paul.
I doubt it. If Ron Paul got in.....not much would change.
On 10 April 2006, a DC-9 jet landed in the port city of Ciudad del Carmen, on the Gulf of Mexico, as the sun was setting. Mexican soldiers, waiting to intercept it, found 128 cases packed with 5.7 tons of cocaine, valued at $100m. But something else – more important and far-reaching – was discovered in the paper trail behind the purchase of the plane by the Sinaloa narco-trafficking cartel.

During a 22-month investigation by agents from the US Drug Enforcement Administration, the Internal Revenue Service and others, it emerged that the cocaine smugglers had bought the plane with money they had laundered through one of the biggest banks in the United States: Wachovia, now part of the giant Wells Fargo.

The authorities uncovered billions of dollars in wire transfers, traveller's cheques and cash shipments through Mexican exchanges into Wachovia accounts. Wachovia was put under immediate investigation for failing to maintain an effective anti-money laundering programme. Of special significance was that the period concerned began in 2004, which coincided with the first escalation of violence along the US-Mexico border that ignited the current drugs war.

Criminal proceedings were brought against Wachovia, though not against any individual, but the case never came to court. In March 2010, Wachovia settled the biggest action brought under the US bank secrecy act, through the US district court in Miami. Now that the year's "deferred prosecution" has expired, the bank is in effect in the clear. It paid federal authorities $110m in forfeiture, for allowing transactions later proved to be connected to drug smuggling, and incurred a $50m fine for failing to monitor cash used to ship 22 tons of cocaine.

More shocking, and more important, the bank was sanctioned for failing to apply the proper anti-laundering strictures to the transfer of $378.4bn – a sum equivalent to one-third of Mexico's gross national product – into dollar accounts from so-called casas de cambio (CDCs) in Mexico, currency exchange houses with which the bank did business.

"Wachovia's blatant disregard for our banking laws gave international cocaine cartels a virtual carte blanche to finance their operations," said Jeffrey Sloman, the federal prosecutor. Yet the total fine was less than 2% of the bank's $12.3bn profit for 2009. On 24 March 2010, Wells Fargo stock traded at $30.86 – up 1% on the week of the court settlement.

The conclusion to the case was only the tip of an iceberg, demonstrating the role of the "legal" banking sector in swilling hundreds of billions of dollars – the blood money from the murderous drug trade in Mexico and other places in the world – around their global operations, now bailed out by the taxpayer.

At the height of the 2008 banking crisis, Antonio Maria Costa, then head of the United Nations office on drugs and crime, said he had evidence to suggest the proceeds from drugs and crime were "the only liquid investment capital" available to banks on the brink of collapse. "Inter-bank loans were funded by money that originated from the drugs trade," he said. "There were signs that some banks were rescued that way."

Wachovia was acquired by Wells Fargo during the 2008 crash, just as Wells Fargo became a beneficiary of $25bn in taxpayers' money.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ap ... drug-gangs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...Ron Paul is a top ranking member of the House Banking Committee -
The United States House Committee on Financial Services (also referred to as the House Banking Committee) is the committee of the United States House of Representatives that oversees the entire financial services industry, including the securities, insurance, banking, and housing industries. The Committee also oversees the work of the Federal Reserve, the United States Department of the Treasury, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and other financial services regulators.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... l_Services" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...ever hear a peep out of him about this???
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Jason wrote: June 27th, 2011, 10:43 am
iamse7en wrote:Yeah RP has swindled Joel Skousen too. I wonder when Joel will wake up and realize that RP is like all the others: he has no principle. Instead, we should be promoting Straussian neocons like Alan Keyes!
LOL...to each their own! If you want to audit every member of the Boy Scouts of America.....more power to you! And while we wait for the audit that will never happen....the banks can continue to launder billions in drug smuggling proceeds....with nary a statement from the great Ron Paul who is a senior member of the House Banking Committee!
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I'm starting to suspect Sarah is compromised and part of the controlled opposition.

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tribrac wrote: March 8th, 2022, 5:20 pm I'm starting to suspect Sarah is compromised and part of the controlled opposition.
Too bad no one is paying me to post all the time. That would be a fun job :lol:

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I wasn't able to quote this post, but it's by Jason...(good points!)


4.05 - "What do you say to people who advocate for self government, rather than a return to the Constitution?"

Ron Paul: "Great. Fine. That is really what my goal is."

Ron Paul continued....

.40 - "I'd choose to run for Congress before I'd choose to take on the IRS"

.45 - "in a lot of ways I'm chicken"

1.00 - "Look at these poor guys who have fought the IRS....they're a 100% right and a 100% of the time they go to jail...you know I'm not going to do anybody any good if I'm in jail."

1.35 - "You know there's a lot more talk of secession and state's rights and getting the fed out of our lives"

2.41 - "Some day you have to make a decision where you come down on violence or not...but I don't think it will be necessary...I see the revolution as being philosophic"

How do you get the fed out of our lives while running from the IRS when priority number 1 is staying out of jail?

Why the desire to supposedly take on the Fed but run from the IRS?

Who's the "fed" that he's trying to get out of our lives while discussing secession and state's rights? Is it federal reserve or federal government? What's his real goal???

Yeah he's a George Washington alright.....NOT!

Ron Paul has 3 major themes going right now:

End the Mandate - which is repeal ObamaCare's mandate forcing Americans to carry government-approved insurance – a requirement that will be enforced by our old pals at the IRS. It sounds good but Ron Paul had an opportunity to really make a dent in it (along with the rest of the tea party Republicans voted in) by defunding it rather than trying to completely reverse it. Without funding it would simply die. Instead as Semp has pointed out multiple times....they switched from defunding to repeal which they knew wouldn't work.

Congressman Ron Paul told CNN that though the vote is largely symbolic, "it sends a strong message because [repeal] represents what people are saying."

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=40312" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

....but now he's back to promising to defund instead of repeal....

At the end of his statement on Obamacare’s support for birth control, Paul said that “as President, I plan to defund Obamacare and all federal programs that use tax money taken from the American people to promote abortion.” “I pledge also to veto any bill with funding for Planned Parenthood or any other international family planning regimes,” Paul added.

http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/ ... president/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Audit the Fed -The Federal Reserve is audited every year by the GAO. This was brought to my attention by Walter Burien (who has been fighting the good fight for a number of years and getting information out about the truth of government finances via CAFR) via the following comments (via email - sorry no link) -

Hear a lot of talk about "Audit the Federal Reserve"? Well, the Federal Reserve which is a private Association that has a listing of member banks has been audited since 1914 and the audit is signed off on by the US Treasury and GAO (General Accounting Office) each year. So I guess all of this talk about audit the Federal Reserve is NOT to audit the Federal Reserve but a push to audit of the members of the Federal Reserve. Just like the Boy Scouts that is an association and puts out an Annual Financial Report of The Boy Scouts of America. I wonder if we can get legislation passed to audit the million or so members of the Boy Scouts and their families? I guess the talk of "audit the Federal Reserve" has some catchy political value that captures the public's attention under the current financial condition of the United States. Here is the current audit of the Federal Reserve, their Annual Financial Report and back issues going back to 1914

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http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs ... ult.htm#ar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

....to give an example of what Walter is trying to get out here is the following -

Last but not least we have the IRS (Internal Revenue Service). It appears from all views that the IRS is a private collection company given government cooperation and court and private police authority that is assigned by congress to collect debt from US Taxpayers and then transfer money collected to the US Government. GOA (General Accounting Office) audits the financial statements of the IRS and makes recommendations each year. The IRS is never referred to as an agency of the federal government; a department; or in any other term that would signify a government body. It is referred to on all occasions as an "entity" http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d10597.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; It is also noted that the IRS was not responsible to provide their financial document to the US Government prior to two decades ago. Again no government agency there could do that and operate as a government agency. Additionally the IRS completes two Annual Financial Reports (AFR). One for its debt collection activities for Congress and the other for its internal corporate structure. The first AFR of the IRS for its collection obligations for and to the US Congress can be found and I have the 1999 report linked below. The second AFR of the IRS it appears is kept under lock and key. To date I have not located it. Could the parent company of the IRS actually be established as a corporate "foreign" company? Very possible. They have registered branch offices in every State in the USA but the parent location of the IRS is not shown. The detailed "Corporate" structure of the IRS is listed here - http://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-001-021.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The 2008 GOA audit of the IRS (first version) - http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09119.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The 1999 GOA audit of the IRS (first version) - http://CAFR1.com/STATES/FEDERAL-GAO-AUD ... TS1999.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...so basically all this talk about "auditing the fed" is a bunch of hogwash that will never happen (explaining why nothing has happened on it for the last decade)....and merely a Ron Paul talking point for the sheeple.


Repeal the Patriot Act - I support this one....but its gotten little traction....and if you believe the government on 9/11...then its probably a good thing. So why is Ron Paul anti 9/11 truthers and also anti Patriot Act??? Doesn't make a lot of sense does it.....unless its just another talking point that's really meaningless in the whole charade. Meanwhile the large banks continue to launder hundreds of billions of dollars of drug money proceeds all while Ron Paul sits as a senior member on the House Banking Committee.



....the media is afraid of Ron Paul about the same as they are Jesse Ventura.....getting all kinds of media time!!! How much media time did James "Bo" Gritz get? Gene "Chip" Tatum? Ted Gunderson? Pat Tillman? Charles Ruff? Vincent Foster? Jeremy Boorda? Gary Rhodes? Bill Tyree? Steve Kangas? Gary Webb? Barry Seal? Don McCoy? James Hatfield? and a million others etc....

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Actually, what really gave Ron Paul away for me was when he didn't go after Trump for hounding the Fed to lower interest rates. I think he did say after the fact that he was against Trump's actions, but when it came to Trump, he was very careful not to be too critical.

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Ron Paul is a deceiver...

...reason he existed in the big house for multiple decades...and gets oodles and gobs of free mainstream media time (not much different than Trump)...

Ron Paul - The American Power Structure (1988)
The ultimate solution will only come with the rejection of fiat money worldwide, and a restoration of commodity money. Commodity money if voluntarily and universally accepted could give us a single world currency requiring no money managers, no manipulators orchestrating a man-made business cycle with rampant price inflation.
— Ron Paul, Congressional Record, March 13, 2001
...and one of the biggest...is Ron Paul's support for China and voting for them to have favored nation status every time it came up...even the vote within a month of the Tienanmen Square massacre in 1989...

...but he's not alone on that...but shows the globalist ties and efforts to build the satanic "model" for Agenda 2030...

The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.
- Carroll Quigley
There is only one thing in man’s world that can offer any check on the unlimited power of money—and that is government. That is why money always accuses government of trying to destroy free agency, when the great enslaver has always been money itself.
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Ron Paul would rather see you fight the corporations on your own...by trying to sell you a bill of goods (you can protect yourself by removing the very tool [government] that protects you...rather than taking it back). Government is the one real leveraged threat the people have against those who would oppress them....which is why the private corporations spend so much money trying to co-opt and take control of the tool via lobbyists, direct cash, chicanery, voting machines, and whatever other methods they can utilize.

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"Ron Paul would rather see you fight the corporations on your own...by trying to sell you a bill of goods (you can protect yourself by removing the very tool [government] that protects you...rather than taking it back). Government is the one real leveraged threat the people have against those who would oppress them....which is why the private corporations spend so much money trying to co-opt and take control of the tool via lobbyists, direct cash, chicanery, voting machines, and whatever other methods they can utilize."

How is the government protecting you? They are in cahoots with big business. Based on results, the government and corporations are working together to take away liberties.
Taking government back will never happen without the Lord's help (establishing Zion).

"There is only one thing in man’s world that can offer any check on the unlimited power of money—and that is government. That is why money always accuses government of trying to destroy free agency, when the great enslaver has always been money itself."
- Hugh Nibley

Classic Hugh Nibley.

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