What you think and what I know are two different things.Fiannan wrote:I think you are mixing up being slightly overweight and being obese. Exercise is indeed the critical factor but while many people who are a bit overweight do exercise, and thus maintain healthy bodies, people who are obese have almost always arrived at that condition by not exercising. How many obese people do you see mountain biking, skying, running doing any other sort of aerobic activity? The lack of exercise is why most get to the shape they are in.freedomforall wrote:So does living 800 miles plus from grand-kids, obese or not. Obesity in and of itself is not so much the problem. It's when obese people quit exercising that hurts them, fat or skinny. I knew a man that jogged regularly and, being of normal weight, had a stroke while running. Some people have high cholesterol, even thin ones, and die young from heart attacks. While others have a lot of internal inflammation that raises havoc in their system and can cause premature death.Fiannan wrote:We are instructed to be fruitful, multiply and replenish the earth. Obesity is associated with infertility. We are instructed to dedicate our time and talents to the building of the Kingdom of God. Obesity kills people prematurely, thus robbing the Church of needed manpower as well as robbing grand-kids their ability to know their elders.
A person can have Hemochromatosis (high ferritin level) that if undetected can cause body organs to shut down and kill the body. Hemochromatosis is passed down from parents to children, and the parents may not be effected by the condition.Then there are thyroid diseases that can cause obesity.
So let's not get so wrapped up on people being overweight as the main cause of premature death.
There is way much more than simply living the WoW.
Yes, people who exercise can die, just as there are women who have six kids and still get breast cancer or men who never smoke and get lung cancer. However, the risk of dying prematurely when you exercise regularly are certainly reduced.
And why is it that people often cite rare conditions or genetics as the causes of obesity? Most obesity today is a factor of taking in more calories than using, plain and simple. Look at pictures from the 1940s, how many obese people were there? Unless the few obese ones in those days had all the children how can one explain the explosion of obesity today as (in reality) those people in the 1940s produced the people of today?
Are obese people any less loved by God?
Are normal weight humans tempted to make fun of fat/obese people.
Are those that make fun of the obese truly acting Christlike, or merely exhibiting their own pride and self love?
I cite rare conditions so that people who make jokes about fat people cannot clump all fat people into the same mold.
I have Hemochromatosis, Diabetes, Arthritis, Edema and numbness in both feet and legs, have broken both ankles (one while riding my bike) a need for a shoulder replacement, a knee replacement, both work related problems that crept up on me in later years, and am well over weight since retiring from work....yet I ride my bicycle and pull a dog trailer with about an additional thirty pounds for many miles, and I'm pushing 69 years of age. I also take my dog for long walks at a local park. Does this fit your paradigm of how badly out of shape the obese are? Don't judge a book by its cover, I say. Experience outweighs misconception every time.
Please allow God to love me, because He loves me unconditionally. People, not so. Frankly, I care less what people think of me. If they're not interested in me as a person, only how I look in society...I don't need them as a friend.
I posted this info because I'm not ashamed of being a child of God, nor what people think. What others think is not going to effect my salvation in the least.
Secondly, I wonder if those trying to live so long are really afraid of death. We all got to die sometime, so what does it matter as to when?
I received some good counsel on this. It goes like this...live each day as though it were your last...one day at a time! We can hope to see tomorrow, next week or next year for the family reunion...but die today. It doesn't matter how ones body is shaped when they are taken home. Did they endure to the end in righteousness? Did they get rid of pride, envy, mocking others, causing discord among brethren, gossip and did they repent of sins regularly? Did they feast upon the word of God? Did they express love toward their fellow man? Did they keep their covenants and the Lord's commandments? Were they steadfast and immovable in doing good works?
Did they truly believe this scripture in the D&C?
Doctrine and Covenants 88:29
29 Ye who are quickened by a portion of the celestial glory shall then receive of the same, even a fulness.
Where does it say, except obese people?
SEE also: D&C 76:70 (50–70).
Are the gifts of God only for those who keep all the commandments all of the time? Name one person on earth other than Jesus that did just that. But here is some good news:
Doctrine and Covenants 46:9
9 For verily I say unto you, they are given for the benefit of those who love me and keep all my commandments, OH,oh, now what? Are you ready? And him that seeketh so to do; that all may be benefited that seek or that ask of me, that ask and not for a sign that they may consume it upon their lusts.
Are obese people excluded from these blessings by some people's self imposed standards? Not according to God.