Are Space Aliens actually Demons?

[notjamesbond003.5captain of 100]

Think about it.

Anytime someone is abducted by "Space Aliens" they talk about being deathly afraid, powerless to do anything, and are subject to bodily invasions, probes and penetrations.

These entities are of darkness and bring no love or light to those that they abduct.
The actions of these "Space Aliens" parallel or mirror SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse).

Anyway here are a couple of links:

http://www.alienresistance.org/sra_aa_compare.htm
http://www.alienresistance.org/christianufo.htm


What say you?

njb

[PunaGabecaptain of 100]

IMO Thats what I've been thinking for a while now.It makes a lot of since thats why David IckY and Jordon Trashwell try to say theres alien reptilian people , I think there just demons especially if the person abducted is drugged and hallucinating.It seems as those the master deceiver, aka " father of lies" ,has tricked these clowns.

[HeirofNumenorthe Heir Of Numenor]

The satanic ritual abuse is very likely, combined with drugging the victim & halluconigens. Coupled with PTB, shadow govt/CIA - as well as firmly entrenched and protected satanic groups with secret combination protection.

[davedancaptain of 1,000]

God tells Joseph Smith he would never send angels except those that belong to the Earth .

Eg No aliens visiting from other planets.

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

God tells Joseph Smith he would never send angels except those that belong to the Earth .

Eg No aliens visiting from other planets.

Well that's one (fairly narrow) interpretation. Another interpretation would be that if anyone from another planet DOES show up, we will know they are not sent from God.

[notjamesbond003.5captain of 100]

Ok, then we're in agreement for the most part.

They come from a bad source, either darkness, the Devil and are not sent from HF.

And some think that they may come from "all-illusive unidentifiable ptb camp" or at the least have some hand in their appearances here ..etc.


njb

[AGStackercaptain of 100]

I know this will sound crazy but I think enough evidence supports the existence of the tribes within the hollow of the Earth. Certainly you'd have to believe in a hollow Earth to conform to this thinking. I have a lot of evidence, or at least know of evidence, that supports this.

Now, the tribes within the Earth live for 600+ years and haven't had any wars. Because they have had hundreds of years of peace, the people have been able to focus their energies on technology to benefit mankind and not for war profits. Think about how much farther along the people on Earth would be without war and secret combinations.

[HeirofNumenorthe Heir Of Numenor]

I find it hard to believe that Satan would not tempt them, institute secret combinations among them - no matter where they may be on earth

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

I find it hard to believe that Satan would not tempt them, institute secret combinations among them - no matter where they may be on earth

Well, if you consider how Satan is going to be bound during the millenium, we have that power now if we would exercise it. There is no reason to disbelieve that a righteous branch of Israel was able to extablish another city of Enoch.

[Stella Solariscaptain of 1,000]

This is a really good book to read on the subject - it pretty much covers every aspect you can think of - and yes, his conclusion (and mine, as well) is that what many call "aliens" are indeed of the devil.

Aliens & UFO's - Messengers or Deceivers? by James Thompson (LDS)

http://www.amazon.com/Aliens-UFOs-Messe ... 807&sr=8-3

[rasattackcaptain of 10]

This is a really good book to read on the subject - it pretty much covers every aspect you can think of - and yes, his conclusion (and mine, as well) is that what many call "aliens" are indeed of the devil.

Aliens & UFO's - Messengers or Deceivers? by James Thompson (LDS)

http://www.amazon.com/Aliens-UFOs-Messe ... 807&sr=8-3

I second the recommendation of this book.

I also think that legitimate alien abduction stories are demonic interference. One of the common themes in abduction stories is the creation of hybrid offspring. If aliens are demons then this could be an attempt to do one or both of the following: 1) Gain a physical body. 2) Corrupt God's work. Some interpret Genesis 6 to mean fallen angels had children with humans, and God flooded the earth to destroy the corruption of his work. Noah was chosen because he was "perfect in his generations" as well as being righteous, and through him the human race was continued as created by God.

I don't automatically discount that all aliens are demonic. There are a few accounts that indicate spiritual brethren from other planets are observing what's going on here, but don't interfere with what's happening.

[Thomascaptain of 1,000]

I can't remember the source but iv'e read somewhere, that Joseph Smith said, only Celestial bodies would be capable of interstellar travel. If true that would mean only benevolent, imbodied persons would be able to visit us. Who knows what Satan and his followers are able to do. I am sure thay are trying to gain a physical presence here on earth and may have achieved some conterfeit form to use agianst us. They may have been able to convince the living to construct some artifical or mechanical body, to inhabit so their spirits can influence us on a physical level.

[Tribunalcaptain of 1,000]

God tells Joseph Smith he would never send angels except those that belong to the Earth .

Eg No aliens visiting from other planets.

What is the source of this information? And how do you define "belong"? Does it mean 'assigned'? Does it mean originally from Earth but no longer living on the Earth?

I am a very strong believer that ultra-advanced people exist who watch us and maybe even associate with us. I can testify of three experiences that I and others had causing me to KNOW that we are not alone.

[rasattackcaptain of 10]

God tells Joseph Smith he would never send angels except those that belong to the Earth .

Eg No aliens visiting from other planets.

What is the source of this information? And how do you define "belong"? Does it mean 'assigned'? Does it mean originally from Earth but no longer living on the Earth?

D&C 130:5

"I answer, Yes. But there are no angels who minister to this earth but those who do belong or have belonged to it."

Assuming "angel" means messenger of God (or something similar) I would argue that this scripture does not preclude the existence of humans from other planets having a presence on Earth. Unless "minister to this earth" means more than I think it does. People who may have left the planet in the past (Lost Tribes?) would also not be included in this scripture.

I am a very strong believer that ultra-advanced people exist who watch us and maybe even associate with us. I can testify of three experiences that I and others had causing me to KNOW that we are not alone.

I'd be interested to here about these experiences.

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

I know this will sound crazy but I think enough evidence supports the existence of the tribes within the hollow of the Earth. Certainly you'd have to believe in a hollow Earth to conform to this thinking. I have a lot of evidence, or at least know of evidence, that supports this.

Now, the tribes within the Earth live for 600+ years and haven't had any wars. Because they have had hundreds of years of peace, the people have been able to focus their energies on technology to benefit mankind and not for war profits. Think about how much farther along the people on Earth would be without war and secret combinations.

Yep AG, that sounds crazy!

[Thomascaptain of 1,000]

God tells Joseph Smith he would never send angels except those that belong to the Earth .

Eg No aliens visiting from other planets.

What is the source of this information? And how do you define "belong"? Does it mean 'assigned'? Does it mean originally from Earth but no longer living on the Earth?

I am a very strong believer that ultra-advanced people exist who watch us and maybe even associate with us. I can testify of three experiences that I and others had causing me to KNOW that we are not alone.

I would be very interested in hearing about those experiences.

[notjamesbond003.5captain of 100]

God tells Joseph Smith he would never send angels except those that belong to the Earth .

Eg No aliens visiting from other planets.

What is the source of this information? And how do you define "belong"? Does it mean 'assigned'? Does it mean originally from Earth but no longer living on the Earth?

I am a very strong believer that ultra-advanced people exist who watch us and maybe even associate with us. I can testify of three experiences that I and others had causing me to KNOW that we are not alone.

Yes Tribunal, please spill-tell us.

njb

[Tribunalcaptain of 1,000]

I'll give two experiences:
1) When I was in the Navy I was the captain's damage controlman. I sat behind the captain's chair whenever something happened like sea and anchor detail, fuel replenishment, or general quarters. One late night I was called to my station. The plotters had found something (a hit on the radar) that was confusing everyone. For a few minutes the plotters thought it was a small boat in the middle of the Pacific because of its signature, then for a few more minutes it was a helicopter because it was airborne and hovering, then it was a fast moving aircraft and it was coming right at us. A large ball of light shot across the bow of the ship causing the bridge to light up. The ball of light made no noise. Then the object was gone. The captain left the bridge and came back with the intel officer who told everyone not to mention anything about what we had experienced to anyone else on the ship. Can you guess what everyone was talking about the next morning at breakfast?

2) My last three years in the military I was a protector for admirals, generals, and diplomats with NATO. One night I was protecting a general at his villa. There were normally two of us in full gear including night vision goggles. My buddy and I were laying on brick walls and looking up at the night sky. We watched as an aircraft with navigator lights blinking traveled from south to north. We noticed four other lights intercepting the aircraft from the north, south, east, and west. They didn't have navigator lights. My partner looked to me and asked if I could see the four aircraft without navigator lights? I told him I could and the four lights could just be the escorts.

When the four lights reached the aircraft at about the same distance the light that came from the north reversed 180-degrees and was now traveling in-front of the aircraft. The lights coming from the east and west cut 90-degrees and were traveling along side the aircraft. And the light trailing the aircraft continued to follow.

My partner and I looked at each other and couldn't believe what we had just observed. We had both been around combat and recon aircraft for a long time and we both knew that nothing could do what those three lights did.

3) The third experience(s) happened right after the second experience, but they are so bizarre and confusing I'm only going to say our governments know!

Do I believe that aliens exist? YES! Do I believe they are evil? NO! I believe they have agency just like we do. Does this affect my testimony in God? YES! It confirms my belief in God.

[Thomascaptain of 1,000]

Thanks for sharing Trib. We know God has created many worlds with many people. Who knows what's out there.

[dcmarkhamHi, I'm new.]

I think there is purposeful deceit that has been going on since the Roswell crash in the 50's that has gone a long way in equating UFOs to automatically = alien beings from another world.

Based on a great deal of personal research I've done, and a great deal of prayer into the matter, I'm convinced of the following:
1) UFOs are man-made, and man-manned. There's a great deal of evidence and testimony that supports this conclusion, but I won't go into such here.
2) "Aliens" (e.g. little grey men) are demons. I lean toward the Genesis 6 theories -- that deeply Luciferian groups somehow conduct DNA experiments, or conduct some sort of twisted-offspring breeding to occur (ala "Rosemary's Baby" type deal) which results in the creation of physical, organic "bodies" which Lucifer and his minions can somehow inhabit/take control of. These condemned spirits are so desperate to inhabit and take control of any flesh (as demonstrated in the New Testament when the Savior cast them out from the crazy guy and permitted them to enter the herd of swine) that it's entirely feasible that they'd go to any lengths to have any kind of body created for them -- and if Luciferian groups used their free-agency to create them, the Lord would probably not intervene to stop it (as He doesn't intervene with the millions of abortion deaths nor fetal DNA experimentation, cloning, etc.)
3) At some point within the next 7 to 10 years, these "aliens" will be introduced to the world as a benevolent race of "watchers" -- likely sold to the world as the Ascendent Masters that have been communicating with and inspiring New Age followers. Books like "Communion" serve to prepare the minds of the masses for this introduction.

That's about all I have to say on the matter. If anyone wishes to rebut, feel free, but I apologize in advance for not having any additional free time to respond.

[Tribunalcaptain of 1,000]

I think there is purposeful deceit that has been going on since the Roswell crash in the 50's that has gone a long way in equating UFOs to automatically = alien beings from another world.

Based on a great deal of personal research I've done, and a great deal of prayer into the matter, I'm convinced of the following:
1) UFOs are man-made, and man-manned. There's a great deal of evidence and testimony that supports this conclusion, but I won't go into such here.
2) "Aliens" (e.g. little grey men) are demons. I lean toward the Genesis 6 theories -- that deeply Luciferian groups somehow conduct DNA experiments, or conduct some sort of twisted-offspring breeding to occur (ala "Rosemary's Baby" type deal) which results in the creation of physical, organic "bodies" which Lucifer and his minions can somehow inhabit/take control of. These condemned spirits are so desperate to inhabit and take control of any flesh (as demonstrated in the New Testament when the Savior cast them out from the crazy guy and permitted them to enter the herd of swine) that it's entirely feasible that they'd go to any lengths to have any kind of body created for them -- and if Luciferian groups used their free-agency to create them, the Lord would probably not intervene to stop it (as He doesn't intervene with the millions of abortion deaths nor fetal DNA experimentation, cloning, etc.)
3) At some point within the next 7 to 10 years, these "aliens" will be introduced to the world as a benevolent race of "watchers" -- likely sold to the world as the Ascendent Masters that have been communicating with and inspiring New Age followers. Books like "Communion" serve to prepare the minds of the masses for this introduction.

That's about all I have to say on the matter. If anyone wishes to rebut, feel free, but I apologize in advance for not having any additional free time to respond.

I won't rebut what you've said. In many ways I agree with you. I believe even the wise among us will be fooled!

[Simoncaptain of 100]

Ths question which is on my mind, is how could we discern these kind of demons from true messengers of God. Joseph Smith gave us the three grand keys in D&C 129 where it basicly says that a handshake would do it. I have no doubt at all that the alien phenomenon is a demonic deception, but if it's Satan with his followers, than is the question how come that so many of these entitis seem to posess a body ?? If they would appear to me, I could shake hands with them and therefore these keys of discernment would not really apply to it.

I have a few theories how this could be explained, also in connection with Gen 6 and the nephilim, but to be honest, I am not sure about these theories, and I feel that here some moderndayrevelation would desperatly be needed... This whole UFO thing has become quiet overwhelming..

[Gadcaptain of 1,000]

This is a really good book to read on the subject - it pretty much covers every aspect you can think of - and yes, his conclusion (and mine, as well) is that what many call "aliens" are indeed of the devil.

Aliens & UFO's - Messengers or Deceivers? by James Thompson (LDS)

http://www.amazon.com/Aliens-UFOs-Messe ... 807&sr=8-3

I was going to recommend this book as well.

The author suggests that most of these encounters are due to Deceivers, but he does include an interesting account in the book by a former Patriarch.

It has been a couple of years so I may be missing some of the details, but in the 1930s a man was working as a lumberjack and saw a craft land in a body of water nearby. He approached and two gentlemen wearing weird clothing who were piping water into the craft. The witness told them that there was a larger lake over a distance away that they could use. The gentlemen said that this water was purer. The witness (being a faithful LDS) then started asking if they knew about the gospel and Jesus Christ. (How's that for every member a missionary.) The gentlemen said that they were not allowed to talk about such things. Eventually they left and the guy went on to get married etc.

The author suggests that if there were other children of god visiting Earth they likely would be under an injunction to not interfere.

Anyway, it was a very interesting book.

In my opinion, there is a legitimate mystery involved in UFOs. And many of them strongly have a dark side that I would not want to be associated with.

[AussieOicaptain of 1,000]

blast some light into a corpse and who knows what frankenstein monster you might have once you reconstitute its dna

satan is an imposter of light is he not?

is it not possibly to gather matter and throw it together and animate a rubber looking alien?
lord knows what expirements they conduct in labs these days, who knows what body parts they leave lying around.

anyway

off topic, abraham and that chapter
if 2 angles visited him in sodom, how could they be angels if no one had been resurrected yet?
we know that they weren't spirits

[Simoncaptain of 100]

Does anyone know where I can get this book ?? On Amazon it's listed, but not anymore available.. Mayby any other sites where you can pay with paypal ??? I want it as hardcover.. not ebook or so !

Thank You
Simon

[Gadcaptain of 1,000]

I found it at my library when I was living in Utah. The amazon link has some used ones for about $9+shipping.

[Simoncaptain of 100]

Thanks .. It costs over 40 Dollar with shipping ( germany is just too far ) .. but thanks though

[7cylon7captain of 1,000]

Yes, many people in the pagan and occult call demons aliens. It is just Symantecs. Are they of this world? Maybe.

You see they think they have this great secret. I let the demons posses me and in return they help me. In fact, if you worship satan he will in fact give you some kind of reward, fame, gold, power and other things. Yet, in the end, he will not support you. You are then left to yourself to be dragged down to hell by the power that you have given to Lucifer.

The secret that they don't know is that the only true help one can receive here on earth that has lasting, soul saving affects are the powers of heaven, chief among them is the gift of the holy ghost. The treasure the holy ghost gives are far more powerful, long lasting and joy and peace providing.

So in short yes, many occultist or new agers think there are aliens. So this new disclosure is really that they can contact aliens from another dimension which as any LDS knows is really the spirit world that is said to be here on earth yet the spirit is more "refined".

Any aliens you see are only man made black ops machines. Or optical illusions.

The so called alien abductions are merely black ops CIA projects. They have drugs that would blow you mind and leave you remembering nothing. I would hate to think of what they are doing to you during abductions. Nothing legal I am sure.

If this is God's universe then why would some alien that is not of GOD come to this earth at all? Why would God allow it? It just doesn't make sense.

[Etoshacaptain of 100]

"If this is God's universe then why would some alien that is not of GOD come to this earth at all? Why would God allow it? It just doesn't make sense."

Thats just the point - either they are Gods (belong to God from another world) or they are evil spirits (which are also his children). He has children on many worlds.

[HeirofNumenorthe Heir Of Numenor]

Aussie the angels that warned Abraham and Lot about destroying Sodom could also have been translated beings- possibly sent down from Enoch's city.
It' s not authoritative, but still a possibility.