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Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby ChelC » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:21 am

I'm curious about how you all feel about chiropractors. I've been in enough pain at night the past week to reconsider my opinion, which has been that it's all pretty hokey. I think there are some chiropractors that are knowledgeable about natural healing but I think most of them are full of crap.

My SIL used to do the foot soak and her "doctor" told her that when her water was dirty she was releasing a lot of toxins. She wanted to believe it, so we let her, even though we know otherwise:
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Prove me wrong. I want to be wrong. My neck, shoulders & back are killing me!
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Like » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:00 pm

Being adjusted and doing some of the exercises at the chiropractors office has always solved my pain. I will then go get a massage to relax the muscle tension. I go only if the pain is really bad.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby dennis » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:04 pm

New Age Medicine
Chiropractic
Definition: Physical adjustments to correct subluxations or "misalignments" of the spine.

Founder: D.D. Palmer

How Does it Claim to Work?: Spinal misalignments allegedly impinge or cause pressure upon spinal nerves, interfering with the flow of nerve impulses to the rest of the body and producing susceptibility to disease. By correcting subluxations (spinal misalignments), proper performance of the nervous system is restored, thereby maintaining health.

Scientific Evaluation: Some physical manipulation employed by chiropractors may be both safe and beneficial. General massage for tension headaches and rational, conservative spinal manipulation therapy for some neuromusculoskeletal disorders is medically justifiable. However, the fundamental chiropractic theory of subluxations causing disease is false: subluxations have never been proven to even exist, let alone to function in the manner claimed.

Occultic Potential: May lead to occultic practices or beliefs or other new age health treatments in that these are often employed by chiropractors.

Major Problem: The basic theory underlying chiropractic treatment is false; the practice is employed far too extensively to be justified on the basis of its limited effectiveness. Furthermore, chiropractic theory and practice are easily integrated with many other new age therapies, thereby promoting new age medicine in general.

Biblical/Christian Evaluation: Avoid any irrational or potentially occultic aspects of chiropractic; to accomplish this would probably require an avoidance of it altogether.

Potential Dangers: Misdiagnosis and/or delay or treatment of a serious illness; moderate to serious physical harm resulting from spinal adjustments; problems arising from over treatment; treatment by occultic practices; over radiation from unnecessary full spine x-rays.


Crystal Healing/Crystal Work
Definition: The use of a supposed "power" inherent within crystals for healing, developing psychic abilities, spirit contact, and other new age goals.

Founder: Unknown: but similar practices (e.g., the use of amulets and other magical stones or gems) have been employed for millennia.

How Does it Claim to Work?: Crystals supposedly contain the ability to focus and direct psychic energies for healing and other practices.

Scientific Evaluation: Discredited.

Occultic Potential: Psychic development; spiritism.

Major Problem(s): Crystals per se have no magical powers and easily become an implement behind which spirits can work.

Biblical/Christian Evaluation: Forbidden on the basis of occultic usage.

Potential Dangers: Misdiagnosis, occultic influences.
Applied Kinesiology (Muscle Testing)
Definition: Applied kinesiology is a method of diagnosis and treatment that combines chiropractic, muscle-testing, nutritional evaluations, and other methods for overall preventive medicine and health maintenance.

Founder: George Goodheart

How Does it Claim to Work?: Applied kinesiology claims to induce proper structural and chemical-nutritional organization in the body, as well as "left-and-right-brain" hemisphere balance. It claims to evaluate and correct problems of the nervous, circulatory, lymphatic, skeletal-musculature, and "meridian" systems, thereby maintaining health. Its practices are believed to permit the even flow of cosmic energy throughout the body, thus nurturing individual organs and systems with the proper supply of chi energy.

Scientific Evaluation: Discredited; see summary on acupuncture (above) and chiropractic (below).

Occultic Potential: Psychic healing; energy channeling.

Major Problem(s): Unsubstantiated practice with occultic potential.

Biblical/Christian Evaluation: Practices that are quack or potentially occultic should be avoided.

Potential Dangers: Misdiagnosis; quack treatment; occultic influence.


Channeling
Definition: Channeling is a new age term for mediumism or spirit-possession, in this case, employing spirit guides in new age medicine. Channeling occurs when someone permits a spirit entity to possess him or her for new age healing purposes. The spirits may perform psychic diagnosis or healing through a healer, or they may speak through the person's vocal chords in order to give spiritual, medical, and other teaching. Automatic writing and inner voice dictation are other forms of spirit communication by channeling.

Founder: The first recorded incident of channeling per se is found in Genesis 3:1 (see also 2 Cor. 11:3, 13-15; Rev. 12:9; 20:2).

How Does it Claim to Work?: By meditation, visualization, hypnosis, altered states of consciousness, and other methods, the spirits are able to enter, possess, and control a person, much in the same manner a puppeteer controls a puppet. People claim that by permitting spirits to possess and speak through them, mankind can attain a wealth of spiritual and other wisdom directly from spirits who have "passed on" or are highly evolved. The spirits claim they can assist people's health concerns and direct them toward true individual and social enlightenment.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Henmasher » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:39 pm

Funny, I don't see any occult practice in my nerves are pinched so the guy cranked me straight and the burning and pain went away :roll: :lol:
If you body is out of alignment, then straighten it. It is imperative that you do get the massage to relax the muscles otherwise your repair is only temporal.
Would you think that medication is a better healing process or just prayer?

Knowledge is from God, that includes the knowledge of spines and nerves and how they work and can be damaged. Moderation and healthy living will help but sometimes you need to get smacked straight. Go to the chiropractor but do not set up unneccessary treatments. Stretching and massage are the best but do not negate chiropractors that treat you and leave it at that. If they asked me to hold a crystal or pray to the earth I would not go back :lol:
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby dennis » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:56 pm

ChelC, Hi , Do a search of Omega 3 and arthritus.
Pain is a symptom. You need to know what is causing your pain. Could be injury? or Inflamation? Or stress?or ???? I am a believer in God. and also natural products. Nutrition is HUGE. Dont forget Chia, Yes I know It doesnt sound important. But It does work for my back pain. Omega 3 is very important for reduction of inflamation. And many other things. The Powerful Role of Omega-3 Fatty Acids in Preventing Diseases of Inflammation: http://www.naturalnews.com/z025518_omeg ... _oils.html
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Mummy » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:31 pm

I'm sure there are some good ones out there.....but I've mostly run across quacks with their little clickers and demand for $$$.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Mummy » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:32 pm

dennis wrote:ChelC, Hi , Do a search of Omega 3 and arthritus.
Pain is a symptom. You need to know what is causing your pain. Could be injury? or Inflamation? Or stress?or ???? I am a believer in God. and also natural products. Nutrition is HUGE. Dont forget Chia, Yes I know It doesnt sound important. But It does work for my back pain. Omega 3 is very important for reduction of inflamation. And many other things. The Powerful Role of Omega-3 Fatty Acids in Preventing Diseases of Inflammation: http://www.naturalnews.com/z025518_omeg ... _oils.html


Not to leave out water!

Google - water & pain
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby ChelC » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:55 pm

All of your feelings sound as mixed as mine. :lol:

I'm not sure what I have going on. It started Monday as a kink in the neck/shoulder area. I figured I slept on it wrong and it would be gone in a day or two. It would loosen up during the day and get worse again at night. I tried a new pillow, icy hot, a heating pad, an anti-inflammatory... nothing worked. On Friday I could hardly move, but then Saturday it loosened up a bit. Now we're back to moderately painful during the day... almost unbearable at night.

Argh. I know what the doctor will say if I call, so I haven't. He'll say to take Ibuprofen 800, alternate heat and ice, and possibly prescribe a muscle relaxer.

I'm pretty skeptical that a doctor popping my back will help, but I'm getting desperate enough to lay my bias aside and do it anyway.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Like » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:51 pm

Wow, I guess there are a lot of crack pot chiropractors out there. I never have had any of those experiences. I go in, get adjusted, then do some streching and strength building excerises and that is it. It helps to get a good massage afterwards. The pain subsides and by the next day the pain is usually gone totally.

I am not in Utah otherwise I would recommend you the doctor I go to. Believe it or not doctors are just glorified sellmen, they are selling their services so they can pay off their debts just like rest of us, you do not have to buy any service you do not want to buy. It's your money, tell them what you are willing to pay for and what you are not. Just be assertive and demand what you want. If you find out your doctor is difficult to work with, then dump them quick.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby kathedralegs » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:28 pm

I am a licensed massage therapist and if a chiropractor recognizes the benefits of the two modalities working together, that would be the best of both worlds. Many times when your body gets a "kink" the pain isn't necessarily reflect the only area of dysfunction. Opposite muscles can be pulled tight/long and can cause pain but the original injury may not be where the pain is. I'm still up in the air about chiropractic but do know that if you really are moving vertebra back in place that if the muscles attached are having issues that aren't addressed, it won't stay put. Relaxing the muscles and dealing with the cause of the dysfunction through massage, repatterning exercise and stretches should help resolve the problem. The doctor will just give you pills that take care of the pain but not the problem.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby loquaciousmomma » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:44 pm

My branch president is a chiropractor and I trust him completely. He has helped me and members of my family countless times. I also used to live in Davenport, the home of Palmer Chiropractic college, which had enough LDS students to warrant a young marrieds branch.

Just like in all other professions, there are wonderful chiropractors and there are unscrupulous ones. My husband dealt with enough of the bad ones while a claims adjuster to sour him on them, but we know of several very good ones. I think you need to trust the Spirit when you have your appointment, if it feels wrong, leave. There are good ones out there.

I have no experience with the machines being used out there, though. I would only trust one who does a manual adjustment.

I hope you feel better!
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby homeroom » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:28 pm

I really appreciate my chiropractor. All he does is manipulate my back and neck when it gets really bad and give me some exercises to strengthen the surrounding muscles. I've been to chiropractors that I will never return to, before I found the right one for me. I only end up visiting him once, maybe twice a year if that. If any of them ever tell you that you have degenerative disease, or that you have to be seen twice a week for months on end, or that they can cure you with some really off the wall type of process, run, don't walk, and look elsewhere. But yes, if your neck and back are killing you, chiropractors DO help, I believe. The right chiropractor, that is.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby 5tev3 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:55 am

I'm a graphic designer and sit in a desk all day. My current chair is a rocking chair, I'm waiting for a good Herman Miller to pop up on Craigslist, but anyway, my back can get a little kinked over a long period of time from my posture. What adds to this is the fact that I really screwed my back up a few years ago lifting something heavy. It goes out every now and again.

So about 2-3 times a year, I'll drop by a chiropractor who is in the ward. The first time I ever went to a chiropractor was this one about 2 years ago. I laid on this table for 15 minutes that massaged my back and loosened me up. Man, I love that table, it rocks. So then he comes in, checks my alignment and cranks my back with some loud pops. When I got up, I felt tons better.

My pain eased up quite a bit, so I can attest to the effectiveness of it. With the right chair I can crack my back in a few great spots but he hit some other areas in the middle that I can never get to pop. So, I like the chiropractor ;)
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby ChelC » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:58 pm

JulesGP wrote:ChelC:

I posted this on another part of the forum awhile ago, but I'm going to repost it here for you. I'm also including a link to the chiropractor I go to which as I mentioned does not do "traditional" chiropractic. Their link has all the information on why they are different and why their adjustments are more effective. I saw this myself as I went to doctors using "traditional" chiropractic methods and only saw temporary results. These guys literally saved my life and I KNOW there was divine intervention when I met them, because after I started treatment with them, my life changed from being so close to giving up that I was praying that God would "take me or fix me", to being completely healed of years of chronic pain and other ailments. Anyway, the link: http://www.thespecific.com/

I've also included before and after photos taken of my neck (approx 6 mos apart).

And my repost:

Before I got better, I was in very bad shape. I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, and during the next few years following, my health had deteriorated to the point that I was not capable of holding down a job, being a wife, being a mom, or being happy at all. My condition caused me to be sick every day (just varying degrees depending on the day), and was the source of agonizing pain throughout my entire body that became so acute, I could not tolerate even the slightest touch to my skin (it hurt to wear my clothing). I went to bed and could not sleep because of the pain I felt just lying there, and I woke up every day feeling worse. My life consisted primarily of lying on the couch hoping I could find more pain medication strong enough to help me endure the day, staying up as late as possible because I dreaded not being able to sleep, and sleeping as late as possible because I dreaded waking up. I became a hermit and avoided contact with others as much as possible, including my own family and my toddler who needed me to care for him. I could not bear for him to touch me or try to climb on my lap, let alone pick him up or play with him. I was unable to lift a fork to feed him because my arm was in so much pain, or just didn't work half the time. I took Percocet for the pain, Ambien for sleep, Flexeril to help relax my locked up muscles, Wellbutrin for the depression, and Buspar for the anxiety - and with all that "help", I was still miserable and dysfunctional as a person. I also developed Bulemia and struggled with that for a couple of years there at the end of my "sick times" - and my bowels were literally shutting down from all the laxatives I took. I reached a point with my health where I literally prayed that God would take my sickness away, or take me – because I could not imagine living another day like this.

I had tried many things over the years to overcome my illnesses, including medications, physical therapy, vitamin supplements, extra sleep, a $1000 mattress, counseling, and even "traditional" chiropractic care – and everything was either a band-aid or didn't work at all. I met a couple of doctors who did upper cervical Chiropractic - different from traditional in that it focuses on only the top of the spine and corrects the one area that allows the rest of the spine to follow suit without additional adjustments. After my first appointment with them, I felt remarkably better. I continued my care with them (starting with 3 treatments a week, now I'm only getting about one adjustment every 2 months or so), and started using my oils again (which I hadn't been using like I should for quite awhile). After about 6 months, I was a completely different person and felt better than I had since high school. I still had issues with some muscles in my back, still struggled with Bulemia, Still took my anti depressants and anti anxiety meds, but my pain was mostly gone, I was a functional "early to bed, early to rise" person, and I was not sick every day. I decided to do a "cleanse" and change my diet and see if that made a difference. I quit drinking Coke (6 pack a day for a 90 lb woman), I took sugar out of my diet, I started eating fruit and vegetables instead of chips and candy, and I started eating organic when I could. I also quit doing the Bulemia thing (which eliminated all the toxins from the laxatives I had been using). I saw another HUGE jump in the improvement of my health and reached a point where I did not even claim to be sick anymore. It was completely in the past. The only vice I had remaining was the medication I had taken for so many years for my depression and anxiety. I was terrified to go off of those because I had tried in the past and crashed and was put right back on them. But I was determined to do it this time, so I used my oils to help during the transition, and started weaning myself off. Now I am completely medication free and use my Essential Oils for maintenance if needed. But now I consider myself a very healthy person and don't even take Tylenol for a headache - because if I do get one, I have natural methods of care that I use.

Anyway, That's my story - I'm a very active, happy mom now and my boys are much happier to have their mom back. I am physically and emotionally stronger and so grateful my prayers were answered, and God directed me to the things I needed to do to overcome all these illnesses and dependencies on medications. This is why I am so passionate about alternative care - because I tried traditional Western Medicine for years and only got WORSE! Now I am healthy and using all the things we were given naturally and I am literally a completely different person and stronger than I have ever been, in every way, not just physically!

Amazing pictures. Thanks.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Songbird » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:49 am

ChelC

I am all for Chiropractors. I have always been fortunate enough to have good ones. I have been going to them for about 30 years and in all that time, only one I just came across, is a weirdo. I won't even go there to explain it.

My experience has been that most chiropractors want to help, but very few want to see you leave because you are income for them. I, myself, have always included Father in Heaven in my process of choosing who I should see. It has never failed. If I don't get the help I need, usually, I receive a "bad" feeling, as in the case of the weirdo I saw last year.

What I would encourage you to do, is to take all the advice you have received from here with a grain of salt. Sift through it, and bring it to Father in Heaven to help you make a decision not based on emotion and prejudice, but on sound spiritual advice. (My belief is that Chiropractors are just one of the many ways Father in Heaven provides for His children in pain. The fact remains that you are in pain. A chiropractor is the best way to help with that pain fast. However, as I am sure others have said here, (I haven't read all the posts), you may have to return a few times to allow your muscles to re-adjust to the new positions of the bones. They have been compensating for a long time.

I agree with whoever suggested massage therapy. It really worked and is working for me. I get these horrible very specific headaches every day where nothing works. I went to my chiropractor and asked him about it. He told me it was my occiput. Then, I told him I was going to a massage therapist, and he told me to tell her to work on my occiput area. (I did not know what he was talking about), but I relayed the message. What she did was incredibly simple, but I did not have a headache for 4 days! And, when it did come back, it wasn't with the force it usually is. I have been going to her for 6 weeks. I am doing so much better. This will probably be my last week.

Sorry to be so long, but just another thought: (Maybe it was already said): The purpose of Chiropratic and massage is to free the blood flow in your body. Your blood carries all the nutrients to every area of your body. When you are "tight" or something is out, that freeflowing gets detoured and things start to feel bad. Once your body gets back into proper alignment, then things will flow better, you will think more clearly, your mood will improve and you will just have an overall feeling of wellness.

We all have missions to accomplish here on the earth. If you are in pain, and it can be fixed, then take advantage of the gifts other people have been given to help you be all that you need to be. You don't have to go forever, and more than likely, you won't need too.

Remember to drink plenty of water after each treatment as toxins can and will be released into the bloodstream and need to be flushed out.

Good luck!~ I will remember you in my prayers that you will find the peace and answers that you need.

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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby ChelC » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:38 am

I've been praying about what to do and I feel like this is a situation where Heavenly Father is leaving it up to me. My husband gave me a blessing a few days ago and it does seem to be easing up a bit, albeit slowly.

I'm wondering if any of you would have suggestions of exercises that I can do to keep things in alignment? I try to do a few yoga poses and things like that and I also do some stretches against the wall that I was shown to improve posture. Any other ideas that I can incorporate to prevent this from returning once it's gone?
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Henmasher » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:45 am

ChelC wrote:I've been praying about what to do and I feel like this is a situation where Heavenly Father is leaving it up to me. My husband gave me a blessing a few days ago and it does seem to be easing up a bit, albeit slowly.

I'm wondering if any of you would have suggestions of exercises that I can do to keep things in alignment? I try to do a few yoga poses and things like that and I also do some stretches against the wall that I was shown to improve posture. Any other ideas that I can incorporate to prevent this from returning once it's gone?

I would if possible, start swimming. The mere act of swimming can adjust you and it definitely clears out the lactic acid left in the muscles after the spasming of being crooked. It will help to keep the muscles in symetry. I swim and while it may hurt it will help correct it. Low impact and just good for you. Great family activity also if you got kids. They can play and you can nail some laps. Dunno but it does work for me :D
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby ChelC » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:50 am

Henmasher wrote:
ChelC wrote:I've been praying about what to do and I feel like this is a situation where Heavenly Father is leaving it up to me. My husband gave me a blessing a few days ago and it does seem to be easing up a bit, albeit slowly.

I'm wondering if any of you would have suggestions of exercises that I can do to keep things in alignment? I try to do a few yoga poses and things like that and I also do some stretches against the wall that I was shown to improve posture. Any other ideas that I can incorporate to prevent this from returning once it's gone?

I would if possible, start swimming. The mere act of swimming can adjust you and it definitely clears out the lactic acid left in the muscles after the spasming of being crooked. It will help to keep the muscles in symetry. I swim and while it may hurt it will help correct it. Low impact and just good for you. Great family activity also if you got kids. They can play and you can nail some laps. Dunno but it does work for me :D

Unfortunately I have had shoulder problems since my teens - a torn rotator cuff that gets aggravated by a small bone spur in my right shoulder and the left isn't too much better. Probably too many monkey bars as a kid or something. I've had a cortisone shot in my shoulder and it's been only mildly annoying since, but I'm not willing to do surgery unless it worsens. I can handle using it - doing push ups or that type of thing, just not a full rotation with resistance.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Henmasher » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:54 am

ChelC wrote:
Henmasher wrote:
ChelC wrote:I've been praying about what to do and I feel like this is a situation where Heavenly Father is leaving it up to me. My husband gave me a blessing a few days ago and it does seem to be easing up a bit, albeit slowly.

I'm wondering if any of you would have suggestions of exercises that I can do to keep things in alignment? I try to do a few yoga poses and things like that and I also do some stretches against the wall that I was shown to improve posture. Any other ideas that I can incorporate to prevent this from returning once it's gone?

I would if possible, start swimming. The mere act of swimming can adjust you and it definitely clears out the lactic acid left in the muscles after the spasming of being crooked. It will help to keep the muscles in symetry. I swim and while it may hurt it will help correct it. Low impact and just good for you. Great family activity also if you got kids. They can play and you can nail some laps. Dunno but it does work for me :D

Unfortunately I have had shoulder problems since my teens - a torn rotator cuff that gets aggravated by a small bone spur in my right shoulder and the left isn't too much better. Probably too many monkey bars as a kid or something. I've had a cortisone shot in my shoulder and it's been only mildly annoying since, but I'm not willing to do surgery unless it worsens. I can handle using it - doing push ups or that type of thing, just not a full rotation with resistance.

Ok I am ready for the funnies so bring em. Just treading with the old birds helps too. Just low impact treading in water or just walking around helps. I tore a rotator cuff and had to just lump around. Don't use the arm thingys....especially if someone you know may see you :oops:
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby ChelC » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:05 pm

Henmasher wrote:Ok I am ready for the funnies so bring em. Just treading with the old birds helps too. Just low impact treading in water or just walking around helps. I tore a rotator cuff and had to just lump around. Don't use the arm thingys....especially if someone you know may see you :oops:

Usually when I take the kidlets out I end up swimming on my back, I can do that, just not the back stroke. Maybe I should join the seniors in water aerobics. :D
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby fps.sledge » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:45 pm

Consider the need to go to an auto mechanic. If you car is busted or not functioning, you take it to go get fixed. Sure, they are some dishonest mechanics and you might end up spending money that is not necessary. What's the alternative? Just not have a working car? We all have to do it. If you want to get to know your local Chiropractor, ask around or just go visit him.

I have back problems once in a while but I do some stretches, exercises, and positions that seem to help out well enough. Find comfortable back exercises to strengthen your muscles. Lay down flat on the floor often. Just a couple very simply ways to help.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby ChelC » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:47 pm

I've asked several people about chiropractors in the area and get such a mixed bag of responses that I decided to just go with a physiatrist for diagnosis at a local sports and rehab center first. I'm 99% certain this is what I have going on:
http://www.livestrong.com/video/2675-tr ... hed-nerve/

So I'm going to try doing more exercises and get some massage therapy. If the cause is a disc issue that I can't fix without a chiro then I'll look more into recommendations, but I'm a bit frustrated right now with the hokey factor (technical term) I'm encountering as I research them.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby sbsion » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:27 pm

as crediable as Phd drs. :mrgreen:
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby ChelC » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:30 pm

sbsion wrote:as crediable as Phd drs. :mrgreen:

Seriously. I've really lost faith in most PhDs/MD's as well.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby reese » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:38 pm

I have a herniated disc in my lower back. I would(have) chose a chiropracter over an MD any day. I have gone to the same chiropracter for about 12 years now. I have no doubt that he has helped me avoid surgery. PM me if you want a name.

Also I would recommed using essential oils for the pain. They work a 100 times better than medicine, for me. Use a blend of peppermint, clove, birch, thats what I mix up when I don't use a pre-blended oil. In a previous post two companies were recommeded. doTerra and Native American Nutritionals. doTerras pain blend is called Deep blue, NAN's blend is called Relief. NAN is cheaper. Don't use a cheap oil from a health store. They must be Therapeutic Quality
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Mullenite » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:44 pm

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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby lneth » Sun May 15, 2011 10:24 pm

Nobody has posted on this thread for a few months, but I need some help in understanding this. I found an article that's disturbed me and wonder if anyone can help me figure out what's the real story. Here's a quote:

"One patient proven to have been killed by neck manipulation was Kristi A. Bedenbaugh, a medical office administrator and former beauty queen from Little Mountain, South Carolina. In 1993, Kristi consulted a chiropractor seeking relief from the pain of sinus headaches. During her second visit, she suffered a stroke immediately after the chiropractor manipulated her neck. She died three days later, one day before her 25th birthday. The autopsy revealed that the manipulation had split the inside walls of both of her vertebral arteries, causing the walls to balloon and block the blood supply to the lower part of her brain. Additional studies concluded that blood clots had formed on the days the manipulation took place. In 1997, the State Board of Chiropractic Examiners of South Carolina issued a consent order in which the chiropractor agreed to pay a $1,000 fine and to acquire 12 hours of continuing education credits in the areas of neurological disorders and emergency response."

That kind of manipulation seems so unnatural to me, but then again, I don't want to go in for risky surgeries and long hospital stays. Does anyone know more about what the risks are here?
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby SpeedRacer » Tue May 17, 2011 7:07 am

My mother suffered from Chronic female issues. She was bed ridden for a few days a month. She had consulted all types of doctors with no relief. In the late 80's when she first heard about Chiropractors she figured she would give it a shot. After a couple of months of therapy, her issues completely subsided. I am sold.

I was recently in a rear-end accident. It was kind of sad because my wife and I were on the way to the D.C. Temple in rush hour traffic and the guy behind us fell asleep. I had a chronic headache and pain. After a week at the Chiropractor I was well. After a month I felt better than before the accident. Sold again.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby ChelC » Tue May 17, 2011 8:33 am

I guess I'll post my update. I never felt like the chiro was the choice for me. I went to a physical therapist who showed me a bunch of exercises and stretches I could do, and I started using a TENS unit a couple times a day, and my husband helped me with massage. It took a while, but I haven't had any more problems. I dislike being dependent on anything really, so I refused any drugs or treatment which require many visits. The PT was great and taught me all I needed in one visit.
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Re: Your opinion of chiropractors?

Postby Rand » Tue May 17, 2011 3:55 pm

ChelC wrote:I guess I'll post my update. I never felt like the chiro was the choice for me. I went to a physical therapist who showed me a bunch of exercises and stretches I could do, and I started using a TENS unit a couple times a day, and my husband helped me with massage. It took a while, but I haven't had any more problems. I dislike being dependent on anything really, so I refused any drugs or treatment which require many visits. The PT was great and taught me all I needed in one visit.


I'm glad you found something that worked. I am a chiropractor and have been practicing for over 25 years. It seems we have much in common with our image as do us Mormons, in general. We obviously need to do a better job of teaching what we do and at times, policing our own ranks.

I have written a few responses and deleted them before I posted them, and am glad I did. I obviously have had many successes in my career, and a few failures. I have never had a patient die from a stroke or anything I have done to them, in over 150,000 treatments. I am grateful for that. I practice solely from referrals. I accept cash only. I have made a good living, and it isn't because I have cheated my way to success. It is because it works so well, that people will come, pay out of pocket and refer others who want the same benefits. Some may think I am a quack. I kind of think the doctors who burn, cut out and irradiate a person back to health are a quack. But to each his own. I do find it fascinating that medicine is such a dangerous profession by the numbers, but a couple of deaths a year get trumpeted big time if a DC is involved. Most of you have never known anyone personally hurt by a DC, yet everyone of you know personally a person who died by a medically induced illness. It is kind of like that lone mormon business man who cheats and that is the headline of the news story.

ChelC, I am glad you got help, and I am sorry we DC's have not done a better job teaching what we do well enough to dispel your prejudice. It has led you to have more pain than you should have needed to endure. Blessings.
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