gardener4life wrote: ↑August 17th, 2017, 6:50 pm I was in California during Prop 8. It was really corrupt. The stand we took was real and right.
Prop 8 was written so that if a bishop or anyone, including businessmen didn't cater and give special service to Gays, queers, and others they could be put in jail and have their property taken. All for no reason. It was a license to hunt non-gays, just like in the days of deer and bison hunting. A lot of people really still don't get how dangerous prop 8 was written for people. There was nothing oppressive against gays and their group in taking a stand; rather it was a self defense action so that lawsuits couldn't be pre-engineered to steal from anyone that wasn't LGBTQ.
If anyone left it was because they weren't actually reading how prop 8 was written.
Hold on here you have what Prop 8 was completely backwards. California Proposition 8 read as follows:
PROPOSITION 8
This initiative measure is submitted to the people in accordance with the provisions of Article II, Section 8, of the California Constitution.
This initiative measure expressly amends the California Constitution by adding a section thereto; therefore, new provisions proposed to be added are printed in italic type to indicate that they are new.
SECTION 1. Title
This measure shall be known and may be cited as the “California Marriage Protection Act.”
SECTION 2. Section 7.5 is added to Article I of the California Constitution, to read:
SEC. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California
http://vig.cdn.sos.ca.gov/2008/general/ ... .pdf#prop8 (Office of the Secretary of State of California website.)
As can be clearly seen in the text Proposition 8 would have placed into the California Constitution that "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." This is the total opposite of what you are suggesting. The church was strongly in favour of the passage of prop 8.
Now I personally think that the church, which strongly supported the passage of prop 8, got played in all of this. If you look at what happened in other states while everyone was spinning their wheels in California on prop 8 you will see that one by one the proponents of same sex marriage were gaining that right through the courts (Iowa), the legislature (New York) or by popular vote (Maine).
In a federal system such as ours with the constitution having a full faith and credit provision it didn't matter what California did or didn't do. The smallest state counts just as much as a big state in legal terms. The opponents of same sex marriage needed to fight it full on in every state large and small. Instead they put all their eggs into one basket, California, believing somehow that a big state would count more than a bunch of little ones. It was not so. So I do think that those groups supporting same sex marriage succeeded in tying down the opposition in one state while they went out and worked on a whole bunch more.