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This may come as a shock to anyone stupid enough to still believe the lying left-wing media, but there is no Muslim ban in America. President Trump‘s executive orders, signed last Friday, are only a temporary halting of immigrants and refugees from seven countries with strong ties to international terrorism.

None of those seven countries are among the list of nations from where the largest number of Muslims immigrate to America. Even more, those seven countries were chosen and named by Obama administration officials! (They were chosen by Obama, not by Trump.) Both Obama and former President Jimmy Carter invoked temporary bans on travelers from terror-linked countries, by the way.

Yet the wholly dishonest, anti-America left-wing media has no interest in reporting the truth about any of this. They’re using the executive order to whip up mass hysteria as an emotional weapon against President Trump.

Right on cue — in another perfect example of “journo-terrorism” — the mindless liberal masses unleashed a social media trolling storm to condemn Donald Trump’s so-called “Muslim ban.” But there is no Muslim ban. As has become customary on the left, the trolls pushing the media narrative are completely without any facts whatsoever and argue from a place of mindless outrage rather than reasoned consideration.

What we’re all really witnessing yet again is the complete collapse of the credibility of the left-wing media and its mindless zombie followers. They are all truly unhinged, mentally ill “emotional zombies” who are instantly manipulated into faux outrage on any event the media seeks to contort into hatred directed at Donald Trump.

That’s why much of America isn’t a democracy but a “mob-ocracy” where mobs of mindless zombies are whipped up into fake outrage by a wholly dishonest, lying left-wing media.

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People believe what they want to hear, even if it's a lie. Sometimes I go to msnbc or cnn to see what they are spewing, and it's so twisted I can't listen. These liberals who claim to want peace, are showing their true colors.
They are pathetic!


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That's right if your a Muslim from a country where Trump has business dealings you will still be admitted to the United States.


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It's pretty simple.

What Trump has done is close the front door. No matter what anyone says, there's no two ways about it. His defense is that he is merely doing the same thing Obama did in 2011. Funny he would use Obama to defend immoral action.

I don't know what the real number is that were detained and are being detained. Doesn't matter. Whatever the number, they were coming through the front door. Legally.

Trump said, basically, because you're from THERE and you BELIEVE **THIS**, you can't come in.

That's wrong. That's immoral.

And there's no two ways about it.

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ebenezerarise wrote:It's pretty simple.
And yet there are plenty of people who simply won't see.
Trump said, basically, because you're from THERE and you BELIEVE **THIS**, you can't come in.
That's not what he said, and it's not why there's a ban, but if you believe that I won't try to change your mind. I will, however, present a more accurate picture for those who may want to know what is happening.

Based on intelligence reports, our security groups identified 7 countries who have the strongest organizations supporting terror actions against our country. It doesn't mean the people they're training to cause terror here are citizens of those countries, but it's where a majority of the training and plotting is taking place. Because of this, the consensus is that we need to have a better, more efficient way to determine who we will let visit our country. Coming here is a privilege, and it's certainly in our best interest to do what we can to weed out those who want to harm us.

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Trump’s Travel Ban Plainly Excludes Countries Tied to 93% of All US Terrorism

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Trump’s Travel Ban Plainly Excludes Countries Tied to 93% of All US Terrorism

On Friday, the world erupted in chaos after President Donald Trump signed an Executive Order suspending entry into the United States for people traveling from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

These seven countries originally came from the Obama administration and were labeled as “countries of concern.”

“There were further travel restrictions already in place from those seven countries,” Sean Spicer said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.” “What the president did was take the first step through this executive order of ensuring that we’re looking at the entire system of who’s coming in, refugees that are coming in, people who are coming in from places that have a history or that our intelligence suggests that we need to have further extreme vetting for.”

Trump is simply building off of restrictions the Obama administration already put in place in 2015 on certain travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria on or after March 1, 2011. Libya, Somalia, and Yemen were added to the list only months after the original limitations.

So, all Trump did was temporarily ban those countries instead of merely keeping the current restrictions.

Sounds reasonable, right? Well, if we look at the bigger picture, and the history of these seven countries — especially in regards to terrorism — something very fishy appears.

Those seven countries have never produced a terrorist in the United States who has ever caused the death of a single American. Yes, you read that correctly.

Only seven percent of all terrorist-related acts in the United States have originated from people in those countries, and not a single one of them has killed a US citizen.

As the Daily Caller reports:
In 2006, Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, a naturalized American citizen born in Tehran, Iran, plowed a Jeep into a crowd of people on the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill “to punish the government of the United States.” No one died in the attack. Nine people were injured, but none of them seriously. Taheri-azar was arrested and now resides in prison.

In 2016, Somali refugee Abdul Razak Ali Artan injured 13 people — none critically — when he drove a Honda Civic into a group of people on the campus of Ohio State University. Artan then got out of his car and stabbed people with a butcher knife. Police on the scene then shot and killed him.

Also in 2016, Dahir Adan, a Kenya-born Somali immigrant and naturalized U.S. citizen, armed himself with a pair of steak knives and entered the Crossroads Center shopping mall in St. Cloud, Minnesota. Adan then stabbed — and punched — 10 people. Victims who were hospitalized were all released by the next day. An off-duty police officer shot and killed Adan inside a Macy’s store.

Taheri-azar, Artan and Adan are the only three Muslims from the seven nations covered by Trumps’ executive order to commit terrorist acts in the United States since September 2001.
Out of the 43 people who carried out terrorist attacks on US soil, only three of them came from the seven countries on Trump’s list — the other 40 terrorists came from countries who were not banned.

This handful of attacks on American soil hardly justifies restricting the travel from these countries once we look at the countries Trump did not ban — who are responsible for 93% of all terrorism in the United States causing death on a massive scale.

During the same period those three terrorists mentioned above attempted to cause harm to Americans, 40 terrorists from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Kyrgyzstan, Kuwait, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Lebanon, and Guinea wreaked havoc in America.

However, people from those countries are still welcome to apply for U.S. visas and travel permits.

So why is it that all these other countries were left off the ban list when it is common knowledge that they are responsible for the overwhelming majority of the terrorism within the United States?

Well, if we zoom out again, we can a propose a potential reason for Trump conveniently leaving these known producers of terrorism off the list.

Trump, being the international businessman that he is, has business holdings worldwide. None of those holdings are in those seven banned countries. On the other hand, however, Trump holds major business stakes in several of the countries absent from this list.

As the Free Thought Project previously reported, during his campaign, Trump registered eight companies tied to hotel interests in Saudi Arabia alone. In case you’ve been under a rock for the last 17 years, the majority of hijackers on 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia. And, last year, the federal government declassified a 28-page report, detailing the fact that they covered up the Saudi Arabian government’s role in the attacks on 9/11.

Saudi Arabia is responsible for the death of 2,369 Americans — they are not on the list.

Trump also has holdings in Egypt, whose citizens killed a total of 162 Americans. Trump Marks Egypt and Trump Marks Egypt LLC are the President’s business dealings in this country, who, conveniently, is also absent from his list.

Another country, who is also absent from Trump’s list is the United Arab Emirates. Trump’s organization has a plethora of holdings in this country, including a licensing and management deal in Dubai for two golf courses and a whole neighborhood of luxury villas currently under construction.

A total of 314 Americans were killed by UAE citizens between 1975 and 2015, according to CATO.

Trump also does business in Turkey as he currently licenses his name to two luxury towers in Istanbul. As we’ve reported many times in the last year, Turkey has repeatedly been caught aiding the Islamic State through protecting their oil routes as well as providing them sanctuary and even training.

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Trump’s Travel Ban Plainly Excludes Countries Tied to 93% of All US Terrorism
15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, yet we attacked Afghanistan, not Saudi Arabia. Why? Because that was where our chief opponent made his base. It was where a great deal of the planning took place. It was where there was the most support for AQ was coming from. The intelligence we have now says the 7 countries in the ban are the places where most of the AQ and ISIS have the best hold. It makes sense to me that that's who we focus on.

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ebenezerarise wrote:It's pretty simple.

What Trump has done is close the front door. No matter what anyone says, there's no two ways about it. His defense is that he is merely doing the same thing Obama did in 2011. Funny he would use Obama to defend immoral action.

I don't know what the real number is that were detained and are being detained. Doesn't matter. Whatever the number, they were coming through the front door. Legally.

Trump said, basically, because you're from THERE and you BELIEVE **THIS**, you can't come in.

That's wrong. That's immoral.

And there's no two ways about it.
This post is a fantastic example of feeling instead of thinking.

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gkearney wrote:That's right if your a Muslim from a country where Trump has business dealings you will still be admitted to the United States.

It has nothing to do with where Trump has business dealings.
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TRUMP IS ALREADY DESTROYING ARIZONA ECONOMY and could destroy the local AZ economies.


Illegal immigrants are boycotting Arizona by the thousands and moving elsewhere north showing their outrage with Donald Trump's proposed law of sending illegal immigrants back to their native countries.

In the small town of Guadalupe, AZ, south of Phoenix, Manuel Renaldo is one of those who are vowing to punish Arizona by leaving.

As he loaded his stolen car with stolen plates and no insurance, with his taxpayer-furnished belongings and family of ten, Renaldo told this reporter through an interpreter: "It's a matter of principle; I refuse to be financially supported by a state government that treats me like a criminal!"

The effects of the exodus are already being felt by some Arizona retailers, who are reporting dwindling thefts & sales of beer, tequila, spray paint, and ammunition.

Also hit hard are the state hospitals, which have reported a dramatic decline in births and emergency room visits of non-revenue patients!

State welfare agencies are preparing to lay off staffs that distribute food stamps and unemployment benefits.

Tattoo parlors are in an absolute state of panic!

Renaldo told a reporter, through an interpreter, that he and his family are moving to Canada, with a new Liberal government under Justin Trudeau and new higher taxes and hardworking Ukrainian people who will better support him and his family with dignity!

Kinda brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?

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ebenezerarise wrote:It's pretty simple.

What Trump has done is close the front door. No matter what anyone says, there's no two ways about it. His defense is that he is merely doing the same thing Obama did in 2011. Funny he would use Obama to defend immoral action.

I don't know what the real number is that were detained and are being detained. Doesn't matter. Whatever the number, they were coming through the front door. Legally.

Trump said, basically, because you're from THERE and you BELIEVE **THIS**, you can't come in.

That's wrong. That's immoral.

And there's no two ways about it.
Good grief. If you lock your doors at night you are doing the same thing -- banning people from coming into your home.

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Serragon wrote: This post is a fantastic example of feeling instead of thinking.
And this post is a good example of a kool-aid drinker.

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David13 wrote:
gkearney wrote:That's right if your a Muslim from a country where Trump has business dealings you will still be admitted to the United States.

It has nothing to do with where Trump has business dealings.
dc
Yeah it does.

Otherwise why would you not also put a similar ban on the country responsible for 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 if the government story is to be believed? Or the primary benefactor of ISIS?

Trump is saying, you do business with me, you'll be alright. Refuse to do so and I will wipe the snot out of you.

Such was Trump's call to Enrique Peña Nieto. If Trump carries out that threat, he can expect to have all of Latin America against him.

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Spider wrote:
ebenezerarise wrote:It's pretty simple.

What Trump has done is close the front door. No matter what anyone says, there's no two ways about it. His defense is that he is merely doing the same thing Obama did in 2011. Funny he would use Obama to defend immoral action.

I don't know what the real number is that were detained and are being detained. Doesn't matter. Whatever the number, they were coming through the front door. Legally.

Trump said, basically, because you're from THERE and you BELIEVE **THIS**, you can't come in.

That's wrong. That's immoral.

And there's no two ways about it.
Good grief. If you lock your doors at night you are doing the same thing -- banning people from coming into your home.
Not the same idea. If you lock your door, the person will knock. If somebody is home, they will answer. Those that want to come in legally anyway.

What Trump did was basically the equivalent of locking the door and changing the key locks, so that those with keys could not get in.

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ebenezerarise wrote:
Serragon wrote: This post is a fantastic example of feeling instead of thinking.
And this post is a good example of a kool-aid drinker.
Since I have stated no opinion on the travel ban, this is another example of feeling vs. thinking.

I would suggest you put emotion aside and only deal with known facts. It is much more useful than forming opinions based upon nothing but your own biases.

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samizdat wrote:
David13 wrote:
gkearney wrote:That's right if your a Muslim from a country where Trump has business dealings you will still be admitted to the United States.

It has nothing to do with where Trump has business dealings.
dc
Yeah it does.

Otherwise why would you not also put a similar ban on the country responsible for 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 if the government story is to be believed? Or the primary benefactor of ISIS?

Trump is saying, you do business with me, you'll be alright. Refuse to do so and I will wipe the snot out of you.

Such was Trump's call to Enrique Peña Nieto. If Trump carries out that threat, he can expect to have all of Latin America against him.
You are forming opinions based upon conjecture, not facts. In this case, you appear to be incorrect.

The seven countries were identified in a bill signed by Barack Obama called the "Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015"

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/internationa ... on-act-faq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In order for Samizdat to be correct, Trump would have had to coordinate w/ Obama back in 2015 or before.

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VIRAL VIDEO: U.S. MARINE REVEALS TRUTH ABOUT TRUMP’S TRAVEL BAN
Native Iraqis reveal how they feel about Americans
Dan Lyman | Infowars.com - FEBRUARY 2, 2017
http://www.infowars.com/viral-video-u-s ... ravel-ban/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steven Gern, a Texan working in Iraq, discusses the reality of how Americans are treated there, in a video that has been shared over 500,000 times and viewed by over 12 million people in 20 hours since he postedit. https://www.facebook.com/steven.gern" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mr. Gern, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran, posed a question to his Iraqi counterparts, asking them what fate might befall him if he were to travel alone amongst the local citizenry.

Their frank response was chilling, and further supported executive orders signed by President Trump, placing a moratorium on immigration and travel from Iraq and similar regions.

“I work currently in Iraq, which is one of the countries that’s on the list,” begins Gern. “Obviously, in the United States, a lot is going on – and over here, this is a lot going on, as well, just a lot of things y’all don’t see.”
“The other morning, we were having a discussion on the executive order, and a lot of the Iraqis showed their displeasure in this executive order, and why they feel like they’ve been betrayed by the United States.”
Gern clarifies that he is not presenting a partisan argument about his own feelings on Trump’s policies, but rather the contrast of how Iraqis view and treat Americans.

“So, I listened to what they had to say, and after they were done yelling and screaming about their opinion on things, I asked a simple question, and I got an answer to that simple question, and I got it without hesitation.”continues Gern. “My simple questions was, ‘As an American, if I went out in town right now, would I be welcome?'”

“They answered me, and said, ‘Absolutely not, you would not be welcome.’ And I said, ‘Okay, what would happen if I went in town?'”

“They said the locals would snatch me up and kill me within an hour. I would be tortured first, and after they were done torturing me, I would probably be beheaded. It would go on video for everybody to see as an example.”

Gern reveals that he already knew the answers to his question, but wanted to hear it directly from the mouths of Iraqis as confirmation regarding the danger posed by average Iraqis – not just trained terrorists – to Westerners.

“The point I’m trying to make is – this is the local populace that would do this. This isn’t ISIS. This isn’t al-Qaeda,” he explains. “So, my question to them was pretty simple after that.”

“‘If you would do this to me, in your country, why would I let you in my country? All this means to me is that if you had the opportunity to take the life of an American, you would do it.'”
Gern returns to addressing the viewers, specifically those who oppose Trump’s executive order and feel that all who wish to enter the United States should be allowed to do so without restriction.

“Maybe that’s something y’all need to think about back there. If this is the way some of these cultures feel… about Americans, why would you be so naive to believe that, if they came to the United States, they would do anything any different than what they would do right here in their own country?”

“I’m just trying to inform you about what’s actually happening on the ground in one of the ‘banned countries’ – something you should probably think about.”
“I can’t go out in town here. Why should they go out in town in my country?”

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Serragon wrote: Since I have stated no opinion on the travel ban, this is another example of feeling vs. thinking.

I would suggest you put emotion aside and only deal with known facts. It is much more useful than forming opinions based upon nothing but your own biases.
Seems to me it's your job to police this thread and tell everyone they are emotional.

Sorry, not emotional. I've seen the evidence. It is conclusive. You, frankly, don't even KNOW my opinion. I've just stated the facts.

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Me thinks there are a couple of people in this thread who need to wake up long enough to read the article and watch the video.

Yes, Russia is trying to subvert America, and the Democrats are leading the way
By: JD Heyes
Date: January 25, 2017

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In addition, Bezmenov notes, the population being subverted must be willing participants. They have to be open to the ideas that the subversion operations seek to implant. Think about “immigration reform.” Anyone who seriously advocates for such reform is really trying to subvert our immigration laws in a way that will allow dangerous people with dangerous ideals and foreign values to infiltrate our country.

http://newstarget.com/2017-01-25-yes-ru ... crats.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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ebenezerarise wrote:
Serragon wrote: Since I have stated no opinion on the travel ban, this is another example of feeling vs. thinking.

I would suggest you put emotion aside and only deal with known facts. It is much more useful than forming opinions based upon nothing but your own biases.
Seems to me it's your job to police this thread and tell everyone they are emotional.

Sorry, not emotional. I've seen the evidence. It is conclusive. You, frankly, don't even KNOW my opinion. I've just stated the facts.
I only accused you of being emotional. No one else. The fact that it seems to you that I am telling everyone they are emotional is another example of your emotional instead of critical thinking.

I do know your opinion. You stated multiple opinions earlier in the thread. Some examples:
ebenezerarise wrote: What Trump has done is close the front door.
Trump said, basically, because you're from THERE and you BELIEVE **THIS**, you can't come in.
That's wrong. That's immoral.
All of these are opinions.

Your only fact was as follows:
ebenezerarise wrote: Whatever the number, they were coming through the front door. Legally.
No one is disputing that these people were entering the country legally prior to it becoming illegal.

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HOAX EXPOSED: MUSLIM MAN BLAMED TRUMP FOR IRAQI MOTHER’S DEATH
Woman died before Trump signed travel ban
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Serragon wrote:
samizdat wrote:
David13 wrote:
gkearney wrote:That's right if your a Muslim from a country where Trump has business dealings you will still be admitted to the United States.

It has nothing to do with where Trump has business dealings.
dc
Yeah it does.

Otherwise why would you not also put a similar ban on the country responsible for 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 if the government story is to be believed? Or the primary benefactor of ISIS?

Trump is saying, you do business with me, you'll be alright. Refuse to do so and I will wipe the snot out of you.

Such was Trump's call to Enrique Peña Nieto. If Trump carries out that threat, he can expect to have all of Latin America against him.
You are forming opinions based upon conjecture, not facts. In this case, you appear to be incorrect.

The seven countries were identified in a bill signed by Barack Obama called the "Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015"

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/internationa ... on-act-faq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In order for Samizdat to be correct, Trump would have had to coordinate w/ Obama back in 2015 or before.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/datadesign/ ... 3abe8b2fb0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yep, Trump has business interests in all of those countries marked in blue.

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samizdat wrote:
Serragon wrote:
samizdat wrote:
David13 wrote:

It has nothing to do with where Trump has business dealings.
dc
Yeah it does.

Otherwise why would you not also put a similar ban on the country responsible for 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 if the government story is to be believed? Or the primary benefactor of ISIS?

Trump is saying, you do business with me, you'll be alright. Refuse to do so and I will wipe the snot out of you.

Such was Trump's call to Enrique Peña Nieto. If Trump carries out that threat, he can expect to have all of Latin America against him.
You are forming opinions based upon conjecture, not facts. In this case, you appear to be incorrect.

The seven countries were identified in a bill signed by Barack Obama called the "Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015"

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/internationa ... on-act-faq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In order for Samizdat to be correct, Trump would have had to coordinate w/ Obama back in 2015 or before.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/datadesign/ ... 3abe8b2fb0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yep, Trump has business interests in all of those countries marked in blue.
There is no cause/effect here. The facts do not support any relationship between these data points. You actually have to have some evidence that the data points are related in order to make a credible assertion.

Your assertion was that the countries were chosen based upon Trump's business interests. This is demonstrably false as the link I provided previously proves that the countries were in fact selected by the Obama administration.

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