TRUMP.

[Silver]

1. Elaine Chao
2. Herbert McMaster
3. Kathleen McFarland
4. Stephen Schwarzman
5. Laurence Fink
6. Dina Habib Powell

7. Helen Aguirre Ferre

8. Robert Lighthizer

[Silver]

Even taking voter fraud into consideration, what is impossible to understand is how Obama was elected and then elected again.

It's easy to understand. Mosiah 29:
26 Now it is not common that the voice of the people desireth anything contrary to that which is right; but it is common for the lesser part of the people to desire that which is not right; therefore this shall ye observe and make it your law—to do your business by the voice of the people.

27 And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction even as he has hitherto visited this land.

Since the elites control both the Republican and the Democratic parties in the US, the people have no choice (because of how elections are managed and because of how the media reports on the elections) but to choose evil. So many here look for Trump to turn things around while overlooking the obvious fact that he's surrounded with the same type of knaves that have already destroyed the country.

If I try to point out the hopelessness of trusting Trump, the reaction is classic "Kill the messenger!" It makes me sad.

[freedomforall]

Even taking voter fraud into consideration, what is impossible to understand is how Obama was elected and then elected again.

It's easy to understand. Mosiah 29:
26 Now it is not common that the voice of the people desireth anything contrary to that which is right; but it is common for the lesser part of the people to desire that which is not right; therefore this shall ye observe and make it your law—to do your business by the voice of the people.

27 And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction even as he has hitherto visited this land.

Since the elites control both the Republican and the Democratic parties in the US, the people have no choice (because of how elections are managed and because of how the media reports on the elections) but to choose evil. So many here look for Trump to turn things around while overlooking the obvious fact that he's surrounded with the same type of knaves that have already destroyed the country.

If I try to point out the hopelessness of trusting Trump, the reaction is classic "Kill the messenger!" It makes me sad.

Two Trump haters is more than a forum like this should have to put up with. So what can you do to rectify the problem. Posting all the dirt you can find on Trump is not becoming of a true LDS, and the practice has a name for it. But then again, without naming names, at least two others don't/didn't care about forum rules either.
One of the two didn't accept the idea of praying for Trump, thought Trump wasn't worth the effort due to hate brought to the forum that meant more than being humble and praying for God's help in Trump's behalf. Are you of the same cloth?
You know what? We can only see the outer man, whereas, God looks upon the heart. Isn't putting all Trump voters in the same little container really lame? Is there a righteous intent in judging all Trump voters as blindly voting for what they hoped and prayed for to the best of their ability?
BTW, there is a vast difference between trusting someone and hope. Isn't trying to rob people of hope also lame?

[Silver]

I can't imagine why pointing out that Trump is surrounding himself with bankers, CFR members, warmongers and billionaires is hate speech, but I won't stop just because some here don't like it.

[freedomforall]

I can't imagine why pointing out that Trump is surrounding himself with bankers, CFR members, warmongers and billionaires is hate speech, but I won't stop just because some here don't like it.

Too bad. Does God like it?
Do you need some silver polish? Things are getting dull around here.

Here's an FYI
Prov 6
16 ¶These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

1) six things doth the Lord hate
2) A proud look
3) a lying tongue
4) hands that shed innocent blood
5) An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations
6) feet that be swift in running to mischief
7) A false witness
8) he that soweth discord among brethren

[Silver]

I can't imagine why pointing out that Trump is surrounding himself with bankers, CFR members, warmongers and billionaires is hate speech, but I won't stop just because some here don't like it.

Too bad. Does God like it?
Do you need some silver polish? Things are getting dull around here.

Here's an FYI
Prov 6
16 ¶These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

1) six things doth the Lord hate
2) A proud look
3) a lying tongue
4) hands that shed innocent blood
5) An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations
6) feet that be swift in running to mischief
7) A false witness
8) he that soweth discord among brethren

If I thought I was bearing false witness, to grab just one example from your list above, I would have some serious guilt. However, all I have done is share the facts as I understand them. Trump, to his shame, has surrounded himself with elitists, Washington Insiders, CFR, and evil bankers. These things are unfortunately true.

[Joel]

[Joel]

[larsenb]

Jon Rappoport compares what was done to Nixon, is and will be done to Trump . . . . and for the same reasons. Makes a lot of sense to me:

Found at: https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017 ... al-lesson/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Extract:

Trump, Watergate, Nixon, Rockefeller: the real lesson

—Two very different men, two very different presidents, Trump and Nixon; but the real reasons for attacking them are the same—

by Jon Rappoport

February 22, 2017

Watergate eventually became the story of two young rookie reporters who exposed and took down a president. Nixon.

Try to think of another major story in your lifetime where the reporters themselves took center stage, and in the process nearly eclipsed their own work. Odd.

One of them, Bob Woodward, expanded his fame. The powers-that-be permitted him to go on and, with extraordinary access, write books criticizing future presidents. Woodward became the in-house attack dog. Mr. Limited Hangout.

The other reporter, Carl Bernstein, faded into relative obscurity. Well, after all, he began exposing many journalists’ connections to the CIA. That wasn’t a productive career move. It was, perhaps, a case of him biting the CIA hand that, without his knowledge, had fed him during his Watergate investigation.

What Woodward and Bernstein didn’t know, during Watergate, was this: On the mega-corporate front, the Rockefeller proposal for world control—“free trade, no tariffs”—was advancing toward fruition, and Richard Nixon was standing in the way.

This man, a crook, a president, a liar, an insecure parody of a head of state, Richard Nixon, had gone off script. He had REALLY gone off script.

In an effort to bolster US companies and protect them from foreign competition inside the United States, Nixon began erecting tariffs on a range of goods imported into the US.

If this Nixon economic plan spread to other countries, the entire global program to install “free trade” and mega-corporate emperors on their thrones for a thousand years could crash and burn.

Nixon was a Rockefeller man. He was owned by them. He’d been rescued from financial ruin by The Family, and now he was in the White House undermining their greatest dream. You can’t overstate the degree of the betrayal, from the Rockefeller point of view. You simply can’t.

Something had to be done. The president had to go. This was the real motivation behind Watergate. This was the real op. Yes, there were sub-motives and smaller contexts, as in any major op, but the prime mover was: get Free Trade back on track, and get suitable revenge on the puppet in the White House who went off the script.

Any historian who overlooks this is an outright fool or a deceiver.

Whether the Watergate break-in was planned to serve the higher goal or was pounced upon, after the fact, as the grand opportunity, is beside the point. It was there, and it was used. It became the starting point for the Washington Post, its publisher, veteran editor, and two cub reporters to break Richard Nixon into pieces.

And if the Rockefeller people needed an inside man at the White House to report on the deteriorating mental state of the president as he heated up in the pressure cooker, they had Henry Kissinger, who was another Rockefeller operative.

The Washington Post was owned by Katharine Graham, who was herself a very close friend of the Rockefeller Family. Years later, she would be awarded a medal of honor by the University of Chicago, an institution founded by John D. Rockefeller. On her death, a paid heartfelt obituary was inserted in the NY Times by the trustees, faculty, and staff of Rockefeller University, where she had served on the University Council.

And she and Nixon already hated each other by the early 1970s.

The managing editor of the Washington Post, Ben Bradlee, was an old hand at writing promotional material, having worked in Europe crafting releases for a CIA front group. A former Naval intelligence man, he liked one of his cub reporters, Bob Woodward, who had also worked for the Navy in intelligence.

When Woodward came to Bradlee with a story about a man in a parking garage who was passing secrets from the White House/FBI about Watergate, we are supposed to believe that Bradlee naturally responded by giving the green light to a major investigation. Woodward and Carl Bernstein, another cub, would undertake it—with nothing more than Bradlee’s reputation and the future survival of the Post and Katharine Graham’s empire on the line if the cubs got it wrong.

We are supposed to believe Bradlee gave the green light, without knowing who the man in the garage was, without knowing whether Woodward could be trusted, without even getting permission from Graham to move ahead.

Bradlee, a grizzled veteran of Washington, understanding exactly what Washington could do to people who told secrets out of school, just said to Woodward and Bernstein, “You’d better be damned sure you’re right, because otherwise we’re all in trouble.”

Two untested cub reporters set loose in a cage with tigers.

The odds of that happening were nil. Bradlee had to know a great deal from the beginning, and he had to have Katharine Graham’s signal to move. The series of breaking stories would be spoon-fed to the unsuspecting young reporters. They would be consumed by their ambition to advance their careers. Bradlee was confident because he had the essentials of the scandal in hand—all the way up to Nixon, the target—well in advance of his two reporters.

To have proceeded otherwise—Bradlee was simply not that kind of fool. Whatever Deep Throat, the man in the garage, was dishing out to Woodward didn’t really matter. Bradlee already had it in his pocket. Deep Throat was merely a contrivance to allow the story to expand and grow by steps, and to permit Woodward and Bernstein to believe they were peeling layers from an onion.

The man behind the curtain was David Rockefeller.

After the whole scandal had been exposed and Nixon had flown away, in disgrace, from the White House for the last time, David Rockefeller addressed a meeting of the Chamber of Commerce of the European Community (October, 1975). He was there to allay their fears about Nixon’s betrayal of the new economic world order. There was really very little he needed to say. David had already created (1973) the free-trade Trilateral Commission, an exceedingly powerful force. And a new puppet, Gerald Ford was in the White House; and Ford had appointed David’s brother, Nelson Rockefeller, as his vice president.

David told the European attendees, “Fortunately, there are no signs that these anti-[free] trade measures [of Nixon] are supported by the [Ford] Administration.”

And that was that. The global mega-corporate colossus was back on track.

The temporary rip in the Matrix had been repaired. . . . . . ..

The real players, of course, were still in place, stronger than ever. David Rockefeller and his aides were preparing for an even greater coup. They had chosen an obscure man with zero name recognition to be the next president of the United States. Jimmy Carter. Carter would function to forward the goals of the Trilateral Commission in bold view of anyone who knew the score.

And every president since Carter, regardless of party affiliation, has supported and extended those Globalist-corporate goals. No questions asked. Obama, who fatuously remarked during his 2008 election campaign that NAFTA “needs to be revisited,” has taken his cues like any other puppet.

When, from this perspective, you examine the global takeover of land and resources by GMO agribusiness, the destruction of small family farms, the plundering of natural resources in the Third World, the use of UN “peacekeepers” and “humanitarian groups” and intelligence agencies to create a wedge, for corporations, into these areas, you see the hand of the Rockefeller plan.

When you see the destruction of currencies and the escalation of insupportable debt, the incursion of a bewildering number of UN-affiliated groups sinking their teeth into local communities all over the planet to “manage sustainable development,” you see the plan.

And when you see “free trade” and no tariffs, you see the essentials nuts and bolts of the plan.

The innocuous-sounding “free trade” policy is the number-one priority of every American president. He must do two things: rarely speak of it, and allow it to move forward. That’s all. In return, he gets to act as if he’s the most powerful man in the world.

But if he wobbles and considers taking up a position against free trade (corporate domination of the planet), he can look back and see what happened to Richard Nixon. He can learn from that example.

He can re-learn the famous words of Zbiggie Brzezinski, co-founder of the Trilateral Commission and David Rockefeller’s intellectual flunkey: “The nation state as a fundamental unit of man’s organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force: International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation-state.”

Like Jimmy Carter, a president can espouse the most wide-ranging humanitarian philosophy and ascend to a cloud of beautiful altruism, admired by all. As long as he sticks to the plan.

If not, agents and reporters coming out of nowhere will try to demolish him.

—Suddenly, a swaggering, self-congratulatory, fast-talking cowboy named Donald Trump appeared as a presidential candidate. And lo and behold, he attacked Globalism by name. He claimed he would dump it in favor of American nationalism. He repeated this oath many times. And he won the election, unseating a lifelong Globalist named Hillary Clinton.

Whether Trump intends on keeping his promises and going up against the Rockefeller colossus, he has spoken of that which must not be uttered in public: the crimes of Globalism and free trade.

He has let the secret cat out of the bag. He has made people aware…

And for that, he must be punished.

What people are calling the Deep State is the collection of agents who are committed to the Rockefeller plan. They, and their media flunkeys, are swinging for the fences every time they mention Trump. They are doing everything they can to take him down.

***From their perspective, they are launching another Watergate-type operation against another Nixon in the White House.

Another time, “another Nixon”; same basic op.

—In order to protect the titanic, Globalist, corporate control of planet Earth.

This time, the rhetoric and the sentiment for nationalism and against Globalism has already spread across the world. It is percolating and boiling in many places.

Putting the lid back on is a herculean task. Therefore, the agents and reporters are doubling and tripling down on Trump. Even if he turns out to be no more than a symbol of anti-Globalism, they are determined to crush him.

They have their marching orders.

Mere blocks away from the Oval Office, the Community Organizer in Chief, after serving eight years in the White House, is now setting up a parallel presidency, with 30,000 ground-and-pound Leftist dupes at his disposal—all for the purpose of taking down Donald Trump.

You can bet Obama’s bosses have reminded him that he failed at his most important task: shepherding through the free-trade Trans-Pacific Partnership treaty. They intend to collect on their investment. They put him, a no-name, in charge of the nation, in 2008, and he is still their agent. They want results.

Soon.

They want a 2017 version of Watergate.

Jon Rappopo

[Silver]

By Hedgeless Horseman of Zerohedge:
"In observing politicians, the media, and American citizens, one thing is clear to me about the presidential, congressional, and local campaigns. Nobody is ready, willing, or able to ask and/or answer questions of substance.

Quite some time ago, my family and I ran across one of our elected representatives, our United States Congressman, campaigning at the town square. We observed more than 100 of our fellow Texans shaking hands with him, and offering their support, which he was grateful to accept. Not one person asked a question about his party's platform, or his voting record. The congressman did not make a single statement of substance about any issue. Sure. There were a few comments and jokes exchanged about the personalities of other candidates, but nothing at all about policy.

Finally, our family approached him, introduced ourselves, told him where we live (in his district) and exchanged warm greetings. I asked, "Considering that you voted for both TARP bills in 2008, the most recent of many tax-payer bailouts of bank shareholders, and considering that you reported owning more than $100,000 of JPMorgan Chase Common Stock and Employee Stock in 2007, Congressman Brady, what is your position on the Federal Reserve Banks being responsible for regulating and supervising the very same banks that own them, such as JPMorgan Chase?

Immediately, a twenty-something woman stepped around from behind our elected representative, and in between him and us. Our congressman stepped backwards several steps. She said to us, without even a hint of the Texas twang used by Brady, "The congressman believes strongly in protecting our nation's financial system for the benefit of every American."

I said, "Well, like the vast majority of Americans, I did not, and do not, own any bank stocks or receive any bank dividends, especially New York banks. I am, however, paid my salary in the US dollars that continue to lose value, and I use them to purchase the ever more expensive necessities of life. Back to my question, please. Doesn't self-regulation and bailouts put the fox in charge of guarding the tax payer's hen house? And hasn't our congressman shown himself to be one of the foxes?"

Congressman Brady was smiling, waving, and making his escape to a waiting vehicle. One of our children shouted, "Dad! He's getting away!"

I laughed and nodded.

The un-elected twenty-something woman simultaneously smiled and glared at me. She said, "America has the strongest banking system in the world, and the most stringent regulation. Your congressman has worked hard to ensure that. Thank you." Then she also left the town square." (close quote)

Wouldn't it be cool for a regular Joe to have the opportunity to ask Trump questions like:
1. With Steven Mnuchin's past criminal activity in the banking industry, why did you nominate him as TreasSec?
2. After calling out Ted Cruz for his wife's Goldman Sachs connections during the primary campaign, why did you nominate Gary Cohn, President of Goldman Sachs, to join your administration?
3. Given their clearly stated goals of destroying American sovereignty, why have you nominated/appointed so many CFR members to your administration?

It would be cool to ask Trump those questions. Or, it would even be cool if I could ask Trump supporters those questions right here on LDSFF and not be called a hatemonger or too black-and-white. Sorry, folks, your President has betrayed you. Your parents were right. They told you that you are known by the company you keep, and so will Trump.

[Silver]

Jon Rappoport compares what was done to Nixon, is and will be done to Trump . . . . and for the same reasons. Makes a lot of sense to me:

Found at: https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017 ... al-lesson/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Extract:

Trump, Watergate, Nixon, Rockefeller: the real lesson

—Two very different men, two very different presidents, Trump and Nixon; but the real reasons for attacking them are the same—

by Jon Rappoport
February 22, 2017

Watergate eventually became the story of two young rookie reporters who exposed and took down a president. Nixon.

Mere blocks away from the Oval Office, the Community Organizer in Chief, after serving eight years in the White House, is now setting up a parallel presidency, with 30,000 ground-and-pound Leftist dupes at his disposal—all for the purpose of taking down Donald Trump.

You can bet Obama’s bosses have reminded him that he failed at his most important task: shepherding through the free-trade Trans-Pacific Partnership treaty. They intend to collect on their investment. They put him, a no-name, in charge of the nation, in 2008, and he is still their agent. They want results. Soon. They want a 2017 version of Watergate.

Jon Rappopo

Larsen, that is an interesting perspective on the fall from grace of Nixon. My own family was persecuted by the FBI for the things my dad once said, correctly, about that pawn of the Rockefellers.

It is, however, when Rappoport transitions to Trump that I have to take exception to his comparison. The text for my post comes from Mark 3:
22 ¶And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.

As I have demonstrated here time and time again, Trump is in bed with the elitists. He is surrounded by them. The only way for Rappoport to be correct is for there to be a battle occurring among and between our billionaire overlords. If the Rothschilds, for example, are now in a life-or-death struggle with the Rockefellers or with Goldman Sachs, then Trump somehow being in trouble makes sense.

[larsenb]

. . . . As I have demonstrated here time and time again, Trump is in bed with the elitists. He is surrounded by them. The only way for Rappoport to be correct is for there to be a battle occurring among and between our billionaire overlords. If the Rothschilds, for example, are now in a life-or-death struggle with the Rockefellers or with Goldman Sachs, then Trump somehow being in trouble makes sense.

Look Silver, I can see where you're coming from. And you're welcome to it. But there is a LOT of evidence to the contrary, in my currently held view, not the least of which is the incredible opposition mounted against him.

My starting point is giving Trump enough respect to believe what he says about his goals and positions. He is saying things I've been waiting to hear for decades, and acting on them. No body else has done this. This is powerful enough for me to want to give him his head, his lead, to see what direction he persists in.

If he goes off track and removes his mask and actually starts doing things radically contrary to his goals, my honeymoon with the man ends at that point. Meanwhile, I'm going to really enjoy seeing him move forward with his stated agenda. It was wonderful, from my perspective, to see him expose the globalist agenda, to encourage Brexit, etc., etc., for instance. He's brought this whole controversy into the light of day, and all over the world. Cat's out of the bag. He has reified this whole topic.

It makes no sense to me, that the globalist would use him in a ploy that involves shining a bright light on their activities. This makes no sense at all, to me.

From my perspective, you're hanging your thesis on too many nebulous assumptions. Don't be upset and argue this point. It just is what it is . . . for me. And you may be right. But at this point, I would assign a fairly low probability to your thesis. But that's just my take . . . for what its worth.

[Silver]

. . . . As I have demonstrated here time and time again, Trump is in bed with the elitists. He is surrounded by them. The only way for Rappoport to be correct is for there to be a battle occurring among and between our billionaire overlords. If the Rothschilds, for example, are now in a life-or-death struggle with the Rockefellers or with Goldman Sachs, then Trump somehow being in trouble makes sense.

Look Silver, I can see where you're coming from. And you're welcome to it. But there is a LOT of evidence to the contrary, in my currently held view, not the least of which is the incredible opposition mounted against him. But that's just my take . . . for what its worth.

I simply cannot square what you're saying with what my own eyes and a study of history tell me. With a large majority of Mormons and virtually all Americans unaware of the power of secret combinations, I think the Gadiantons have plenty of wiggle room left. Of course, many people are not happy with the way things are going but they know not where to focus their frustrations other than the gubmint in a 5 minute discussion at the water cooler. Thus, the secret combinations can set up a man like Trump who says all the right things to get elected, but ol' Crooked Hillary is still walking around free, ain't she? There is no justice while the wicked reign.

[larsenb]

. . . . As I have demonstrated here time and time again, Trump is in bed with the elitists. He is surrounded by them. The only way for Rappoport to be correct is for there to be a battle occurring among and between our billionaire overlords. If the Rothschilds, for example, are now in a life-or-death struggle with the Rockefellers or with Goldman Sachs, then Trump somehow being in trouble makes sense.

Look Silver, I can see where you're coming from. And you're welcome to it. But there is a LOT of evidence to the contrary, in my currently held view, not the least of which is the incredible opposition mounted against him. But that's just my take . . . for what its worth.

I simply cannot square what you're saying with what my own eyes and a study of history tell me. With a large majority of Mormons and virtually all Americans unaware of the power of secret combinations, I think the Gadiantons have plenty of wiggle room left. Of course, many people are not happy with the way things are going but they know not where to focus their frustrations other than the gubmint in a 5 minute discussion at the water cooler. Thus, the secret combinations can set up a man like Trump who says all the right things to get elected, but ol' Crooked Hillary is still walking around free, ain't she? There is no justice while the wicked reign.

Ah, Silver. You still miss the point. Let it go.

[freedomforall]

. . . . As I have demonstrated here time and time again, Trump is in bed with the elitists. He is surrounded by them. The only way for Rappoport to be correct is for there to be a battle occurring among and between our billionaire overlords. If the Rothschilds, for example, are now in a life-or-death struggle with the Rockefellers or with Goldman Sachs, then Trump somehow being in trouble makes sense.

Look Silver, I can see where you're coming from. And you're welcome to it. But there is a LOT of evidence to the contrary, in my currently held view, not the least of which is the incredible opposition mounted against him.

My starting point is giving Trump enough respect to believe what he says about his goals and positions. He is saying things I've been waiting to hear for decades, and acting on them. No body else has done this. This is powerful enough for me to want to give him his head, his lead, to see what direction he persists in.

If he goes off track and removes his mask and actually starts doing things radically contrary to his goals, my honeymoon with the man ends at that point. Meanwhile, I'm going to really enjoy seeing him move forward with his stated agenda. It was wonderful, from my perspective, to see him expose the globalist agenda, to encourage Brexit, etc., etc., for instance. He's brought this whole controversy into the light of day, and all over the world. Cat's out of the bag. He has reified this whole topic.

It makes no sense to me, that the globalist would use him in a ploy that involves shining a bright light on their activities. This makes no sense at all, to me.

From my perspective, you're hanging your thesis on too many nebulous assumptions. Don't be upset and argue this point. It just is what it is . . . for me. And you may be right. But at this point, I would assign a fairly low probability to your thesis. But that's just my take . . . for what its worth.

:ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

[freedomforall]

. . . . As I have demonstrated here time and time again, Trump is in bed with the elitists. He is surrounded by them. The only way for Rappoport to be correct is for there to be a battle occurring among and between our billionaire overlords. If the Rothschilds, for example, are now in a life-or-death struggle with the Rockefellers or with Goldman Sachs, then Trump somehow being in trouble makes sense.

Look Silver, I can see where you're coming from. And you're welcome to it. But there is a LOT of evidence to the contrary, in my currently held view, not the least of which is the incredible opposition mounted against him. But that's just my take . . . for what its worth.

I simply cannot square what you're saying with what my own eyes and a study of history tell me. With a large majority of Mormons and virtually all Americans unaware of the power of secret combinations, I think the Gadiantons have plenty of wiggle room left. Of course, many people are not happy with the way things are going but they know not where to focus their frustrations other than the gubmint in a 5 minute discussion at the water cooler. Thus, the secret combinations can set up a man like Trump who says all the right things to get elected, but ol' Crooked Hillary is still walking around free, ain't she? There is no justice while the wicked reign.

D&C 58:20-22
20 Let no man think he is ruler; but let God rule him that judgeth, according to the counsel of his own will, or, in other words, him that counseleth or sitteth upon the judgment seat.
21 Let no man break the laws of the land, for he that keepeth the laws of God hath no need to break the laws of the land.
22 Wherefore, be subject to the powers that be, until he reigns whose right it is to reign, and subdues all enemies under his feet.

Here is wisdom. However, we are subject to having evil rule over us. This does not mean that any one of us has to become worldly and forget God. Many, many people have been frustrated, angry and even filled with some level of hate due to so many bad Presidents having been put into office. Trump, at least, is doing something for the country and not sucking money out of "we the people" to suit his own interests and pleasures.
I conclude that many of the people in America have been tolerant of so much corruption in Government and society, that this style of living as become the norm. Trump has and is upsetting the cart, and some people don't like it. Why? Because they failed to replace bad Government with good...decades ago, because they didn't exercise that right to replace Government afforded to us by the Declaration of Independence. Now they even call doing things right is evil due to the remedies they are not used to. Let's face it, some people can't handle positive change.
I don't understand Trump's complete game plan, but I believe he is using strategy to try and win an internal war in the US, by giving power back to the people.
Those of us who are willing to give him a chance, aren't just sitting around with our eyes closed and wearing ear muffs. At the same time, we find it lame to post after post everything that looks like dirt on one of our brothers.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

[Silver]

. . . . As I have demonstrated here time and time again, Trump is in bed with the elitists. He is surrounded by them. The only way for Rappoport to be correct is for there to be a battle occurring among and between our billionaire overlords. If the Rothschilds, for example, are now in a life-or-death struggle with the Rockefellers or with Goldman Sachs, then Trump somehow being in trouble makes sense.

Look Silver, I can see where you're coming from. And you're welcome to it. But there is a LOT of evidence to the contrary, in my currently held view, not the least of which is the incredible opposition mounted against him. But that's just my take . . . for what its worth.

I simply cannot square what you're saying with what my own eyes and a study of history tell me. With a large majority of Mormons and virtually all Americans unaware of the power of secret combinations, I think the Gadiantons have plenty of wiggle room left. Of course, many people are not happy with the way things are going but they know not where to focus their frustrations other than the gubmint in a 5 minute discussion at the water cooler. Thus, the secret combinations can set up a man like Trump who says all the right things to get elected, but ol' Crooked Hillary is still walking around free, ain't she? There is no justice while the wicked reign.

Ah, Silver. You still miss the point. Let it go.

Those are easy words to toss out and I can easily direct them to you as well.

[freedomforall]

Look Silver, I can see where you're coming from. And you're welcome to it. But there is a LOT of evidence to the contrary, in my currently held view, not the least of which is the incredible opposition mounted against him. But that's just my take . . . for what its worth.

I simply cannot square what you're saying with what my own eyes and a study of history tell me. With a large majority of Mormons and virtually all Americans unaware of the power of secret combinations, I think the Gadiantons have plenty of wiggle room left. Of course, many people are not happy with the way things are going but they know not where to focus their frustrations other than the gubmint in a 5 minute discussion at the water cooler. Thus, the secret combinations can set up a man like Trump who says all the right things to get elected, but ol' Crooked Hillary is still walking around free, ain't she? There is no justice while the wicked reign.

Ah, Silver. You still miss the point. Let it go.

Those are easy words to toss out and I can easily direct them to you as well.

And any of us that are getting weary from all this mud slinging activity...could ask...what's wrong with this picture?
If you want to be right, then be RIGHT! But does shifting personal responsibility onto others that is yours to deal with a smart move?. Man can become blinded by their own biases. Your mind is yours, ours is ours, and they don't always agree with each other. One mind says, look for the most mud you can possibly find and post it. The other mind says, for what reasonable purpose is he wasting so much time in presenting things already known, but want to give a man a reasonable chance to prove himself, or not. It's like putting a cart before the horse that is supposed to be pulling IT. It's like running a three-legged horse in a National Derby. It's like driving a car with only three wheels.
Most of all, it's like casting swine before pearls.

[Joel]

How Trump’s campaign staffers tried to keep him off Twitter

The trick? Making sure his media diet included a healthy dose of praise.

President Donald Trump’s former campaign staffers claim they cracked the code for tamping down his most inflammatory tweets, and they say the current West Wing staff would do well to take note.

The key to keeping Trump’s Twitter habit under control, according to six former campaign officials, is to ensure that his personal media consumption includes a steady stream of praise. And when no such praise was to be found, staff would turn to friendly outlets to drum some up — and make sure it made its way to Trump’s desk.

"If candidate Trump was upset about unfair coverage, it was productive to show him that he was getting fair coverage from outlets that were persuadable," said former communications director Sam Nunberg. "The same media that our base digests and prefers is going to be the base for his support. I would assume the president would like to see positive and preferential treatment from those outlets and that would help the operation overall."

Staff members had one advantage as they aimed to manage candidate Trump’s media diet: He rarely reads anything online, instead preferring print newspapers — especially his go-to, The New York Times — and reading material his staff brought to his desk. Indeed, his media consumption habits were on full display during his roller-coaster news conference this past Thursday, when he continually remarked on what the media would write “tomorrow,” even as print outlets’ websites already had posted stories about his remarks.

The White House did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

Trump is also, however, a near-nonstop consumer of cable news, and his staff’s efforts were not always enough to keep Trump from tweeting on topics that were far from his campaign’s core message. Throughout the campaign, whatever messaging the candidate’s staff had planned was continually accompanied — and often overshadowed — by a string of feuds that played out both on and off Twitter.

But his team believed that its strategies would keep Trump from taking to his preferred social media outlet to escalate his personal or political conflicts.

For example, when Trump engaged in a Twitter war with Khizr Khan, the father of a slain Muslim U.S. soldier in Iraq, the team set up a meeting with Gold Star Mothers of Florida and made sure to plant the story in conservative media. Breitbart also wrote stories about Khan's relationships with the Democratic Party. "We made sure that conservative media was aware of it, they connected the echo chamber," the former official said.

During another damage-control mission, when former Miss Universe Alicia Machado took to the airwaves to call out Trump for calling her "Miss Piggy" and "Miss Housekeeping," the communications team scrambled to place a story in conservative-friendly outlets like Fox News, the Washington Examiner, the Daily Caller and Breitbart.

A former senior campaign official said Nunberg and his successor, former communications director Jason Miller, were particularly skilled at using alternative media like Breitbart, Washington Examiner, Infowars and the Daily Caller to show Trump positive coverage.

And once they got the stories published, campaign officials with large numbers of Twitter followers would tweet them out.

They would also go to media amplifiers like Fox News hosts and conservative columnists to encourage them to tweet out the story so that they could print out and show a two-page list of tweets that showed that they were steering the message. While Trump still couldn't contain his Twitter-rage with Machado, and ended up tweeting about a mystery sex-tape of the Hillary Clinton surrogate, aides say they dialed back even more posts.

"He saw there was activity, so he didn't feel like he had to respond," the former campaign official said. "He sends out these tweets when he feels like people aren't responding enough for him."

The in-person touch is also important to keeping Trump from running too hot. One Trump associate said it’s important to show Trump deference and offer him praise and respect, as that will lead him to more often listen. And if Trump becomes obsessed with a grudge, aides need to try and change the subject, friends say. Leaving him alone for several hours can prove damaging, because he consumes too much television and gripes to people outside the White House.

Part of the current problem is Trump is still adjusting to his new circumstances and has plenty of time to stew over negative reviews as he spends time alone in the evenings and early mornings as his wife, Melania Trump, continues living in New York while his youngest son, Barron, finishes the school year.

That alone time played a factor in Trump’s response to revelations that his Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, had criticized attacks on the judiciary days after Trump attacked a “so-called” judge for blocking his administration’s travel ban.

White House officials anticipated that Gorsuch would distance himself from Trump’s attack and thought the planned comments would help the nominee’s bid, said a person with knowledge of the conversations.

The problem: Trump himself didn't like Gorsuch’s "disheartening" and "demoralizing" critique. He fired off a tweet criticizing Sen. Richard Blumenthal, the Connecticut Democrat who repeated the comments, digging up a controversy over the senator’s military record and accusing him of incorrectly characterizing Gorsuch’s comments. Afterward, Blumenthal and other Democrats criticized Trump and said the president’s comments would hurt his nominee's chances.

Asked whether aides and advisers liked the tweet, one White House official said sarcastically: "What do you think?"

[Elizabeth]

[Silver]

Another great article by Brandon Smith and it belongs in this thread. Makes you think, doesn't it?

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As a part of the increasingly obvious set-up of conservative movements by international banking interests and globalist think-tanks, I have noticed an expanding disinformation campaign which appears to be designed to wash the Federal Reserve of culpability for the crash of 2008 that has continued to fester to this day despite the many claims of economic “recovery.” I believe this program is meant to set the stage for a coming conflict between the Trump Administration and the Fed, but what would be the ultimate consequences of such an event?

In my article 'The False Economic Recovery Narrative Will Die In 2017', I outlined the propaganda trap being established by globalist owned and operated media outlets like Bloomberg, in which they consistently claim that Donald Trump has “inherited” an economy in recovery and ascendancy from the Obama administration. I thoroughly debunked their positions and “evidence” by showing how each of their fundamental indicators has actually been in steady decline since 2008, even in the face of massive monetary intervention and fiat printing by the Fed.

My greatest concern leading up to the 2016 election was that Trump would be allowed to win because he represents the perfect scapegoat for an economic crisis that central banks have been brewing for years. Whether or not Trump is aware of this plan cannot yet be proven, but as I have mentioned in the past, his cabinet of Goldman Sachs alumni and neo-con veterans hardly gives me confidence. In the best case scenario, Trump is surrounded by enemies; in the worst case scenario, he is surrounded by friends.

Trump’s loyalties, though, are a secondary issue for now. The primary focus of this article is to discern whether or not a battle between Trump and the Fed will result in a net positive or a net negative for the public. My position is that any action against the Fed should have happened years ago, and that today, the Fed is nothing more than a sacrificial appendage of a greater globalist agenda. Meaning, conservative groups should be aware that a victory over the Fed is not actually a victory over the globalists. In fact, the globalists may very well WANT a war between the Fed and the White House at this time.

First, some facts need to be established to counter the propaganda claims that the Fed is some kind of innocent victim of a rampaging President Trump or “misguided” conservative rhetoric.

The Scapegoat Setup Continues

The latest extension of the Fed’s propaganda has been initiated, of course, by the mainstream media and liberals in general; you know, the same people that were applauding the (in some cases misguided) efforts of the Occupy Wall Street movement. With Trump’s negation of the Dodd-Frank Act, the media has been looking for any opportunity to assert that Trump is either acting to enrich his corporate friends or that he is an idiot man-child when it comes to matters of business and economics.

This led to some sniping by Elizabeth Warren and Federal Reserve Board Chair Janet Yellen‘s testimony before congress last week. The argument? That Trump was wrong or “lying” when he said that Dodd-Frank had frozen loans from major banks. You can see the glee in media outlets over the stab; a recent article by Vanity Fair, which seemed to focus more on snide ankle biting of Trump than concrete evidence, is a perfect example.

Now, in Trump’s defense (or at least, in defense of his position), Yellen is actually the one lying, here. While it is true that commercial lending has expanded, her claim that small business loans have improved is simply false. Even Bloomberg begrudgingly acknowledges that small business loans have fallen by at least 6% since the passage of Dodd-Frank. In Obama’s favorite liberal home-base, Chicago, loans to small neighborhood businesses declined by 49% between 2008 and 2014.

In 2015, Yellen herself argued that small business loans were in decline because small business owners “don’t want loans anymore.” This is a bit like the Bureau of Labor Statistics arguing that over 95 million unemployed working age Americans should not be counted as unemployed in their stats because they really “don’t want a job.” It is an attempt to muddy the waters on the greater issue, which is that the U.S. economy is in considerable danger.

You see, I don’t think Trump was debating that major corporations and banks were not receiving ample loans, I think he was primarily pointing out the disparity in small business loans and personal loans. Yellen and the mainstream media attempted to use one data point — commercial loans, to dismiss the entire debate over loan stagnation.

The Fed Is Culpable For Our Bubble Economy And Trying To Shift Blame Before A Collapse

The fact is, we all KNOW that major corporations and banks have been flooded with ample loans, and much of this capital was conjured out of thin air by the Fed itself through fiat creation and near zero interest rates. We know this because of the $16 trillion in loans made to companies around the world exposed by the revealing (but limited) TARP audit. We also know this because much of these loans have been used to inflate the stock market bubble for the past few years through endless stock buybacks that most companies never would have been able to afford otherwise. We also know that the mainstream investment world is aware of the importance of these loans because they started to panic as the Fed announced its ongoing program of interest rate hikes.

Beyond that, we know that the Fed’s low interest loans and culture of circular inbred lending between corporations and banks have been instrumental in keeping stocks hyperinflated, because Fed officials have OPENLY ADMITTED that this is the case. As Richard Fisher of the Dallas Fed stated in an interview with CNBC:

“What the Fed did — and I was part of that group — is we front-loaded a tremendous market rally, starting in 2009.It’s sort of what I call the “reverse Whimpy factor” — give me two hamburgers today for one tomorrow. I’m not surprised that almost every index you can look at … was down significantly.” [Referring to the results in the stock market after the Fed raised rates in December 2015.]

“…I was warning my colleagues, “Don’t go wobbly if we have a 10-20 percent correction at some point. … Everybody you talk to … has been warning that these markets are heavily priced.”
So, again, the issue is not whether or not banks are lending, we know they are lending, they just aren’t lending to the people that need it most.

I think Fisher was dishonest in his evaluation of the extent of the consequences of the Fed bubble and that a 10% to 20% drop in equities is an absurd underestimation. But setting aside the "little white lies", it is at least widely available knowledge that the Federal Reserve initiated a corporate loan free-for-all, knowing that the supposed benefits were limited in scope as well as in duration. They know that a crash is coming, and they have been stalling until they can find the right scapegoat to divert blame. That scapegoat is Trump, and by association, all conservatives.

As far as Dodd-Frank is concerned, the act was supposed to be a primer for stopping destructive behavior in the financial sector, more specifically in derivatives. Yet, in spite of Dodd-Frank, banks like Citigroup are STILL bloated with derivatives after receiving at least $476 billion in taxpayer funds to stop them from going bankrupt for the very same irresponsibility.

Dodd-Frank accomplished absolutely nothing in terms of what it was mandated to do. I believe the only true purpose of Dodd-Frank was to distract everyone from Ron Paul’s Fed audit bill, which was gaining major traction at the time.

Liberals And The Fed Become Bedfellows?

So, why does Trump’s undercutting of Dodd-Frank even matter? As outlined above, it is a propaganda point for the establishment to perpetuate the narrative that Trump is incompetent, that the people who support him are incompetent, and that when the economy does shift into greater crisis it will be his fault and the fault of conservatives. It is also a springboard for the Federal Reserve to “attack” Trump, as shown in Yellen’s congressional testimony.

I also find it interesting that through the Dodd-Frank issue as well as others, leftists are being galvanized in support around the Federal Reserve, something that they probably would not have done a couple of years ago. This is all culminating in what I believe will become a titanic battle not only between Trump and Leftists, but also between Donald Trump and the Fed. But why would the establishment want to incite a conflict between the president and the central bank?

This is something conservatives and liberty activists have wanted for decades — a president that would be willing to take on the Federal Reserve and expose its innards. The problem is, the time for the effectiveness of such an action is long gone. Auditing the Fed under Obama (an openly pro-globalist president) would have been a disaster for the powers that be. It would have thrown their entire agenda into disarray and killed any chance that they could complete what they call the “great global economic reset.” Auditing or shutting down the Fed under Trump is another matter.

As I examined in detail with evidence in my article 'The Economic End Game Explained', the Federal Reserve has a shelf life. It has already served its purpose, which was to undermine the American economy and our currency system. The Fed will now begin deflating the bubbles it has engineered in stocks, Treasuries and the dollar through continued interest rate hikes and rolling out the over $4 trillion (official amount) on its balance sheet. The goal? Sinking America and reducing it to third world status over the course of the next several years to make way for total global centralization of economic administration, eventually leading to global fiscal management under the IMF and perhaps the BIS, and a global currency system; all while making conservative movements look like the monster behind the crisis.

To summarize, the U.S. economy and the dollar are slated for a controlled demolition. The Fed will do everything in its power to prod Trump and conservatives into war with the central bank, because the Fed is now ready to sacrifice itself and the dollar’s world reserve status in order to clear a path for a new global system and ideology. The Federal Reserve is a suicide bomber.

If this takes place as I predict then the international banks and the establishment elites will be able to lay the blame for the death of king dollar squarely at the feet of Trump and conservatives, and at least a third of the country (leftists) will buy into the narrative lock, stock and barrel because they desperately WANT to believe it. Remember, the tale being scripted here is that Trump is a rampaging maniac that does not know what he is doing.

To be clear, I am not supporting the continuing dominance of the Fed, or the existence of the fiat dollar. What I am saying is that conservatives may just get what we have been wishing for all these years but not in the manner we had hoped.

To counter this threat our list of targets must expand to meet reality. The delusion that the core problem is the Federal Reserve must stop. The Fed is a box store, a franchise in a chain of franchises, nothing more. If we do not also turn our scrutiny and aggression towards root globalist institutions like the IMF and the BIS as well as international banks, then our efforts will only serve to bolster the enemy we are trying to fight.

In a battle limited to Trump versus the Fed, only the bankers will win.

[freedomforall]

Steve Bannon: Donald Trump's promises will be executed

A new order is forming

Steve Bannon documentary: who is Trump’s ‘great manipulator?’

All his promises are going to be implemented.

[Sirocco]

This politics is like the new punk rock, my establishment loving friends are like miserable lol.

[Elizabeth]

[Joel]

South Park's caricature of Caitlyn Jenner :o)