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Postby Oldemandalton » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:39 pm

Islamic Academics: Allowing Saudi Women to Drive Would Lead to ‘Surge in Prostitution…Homosexuality & Divorce’


Posted on December 2, 2011 at 4:45pm by Billy Hallowell

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/islamic-academics-allowing-saudi-women-to-drive-would-lead-to-surge-in-prostitution-homosexuality-divorce/

In 2011, some brave Saudi Arabian women put up a fight over the ongoing driving ban that exists in the Middle Eastern country, but their battle is far from over. Now, religious scholars from Saudi Arabia’s highest authority on Islam are claiming that allowing women to drive would lead to further “moral decline.” :))

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/the-casbah/saudi-scholars-say-female-driving-ban-prevents-prostitution

But it gets even more bizarre. Academics in the Majlis al-Ifta’ al-A’ala council claim that making such an allowance would lead to a “surge in prostitution, pornography, homosexuality and divorce.” Yes, that’s right. By affording women the right to move about more freely, society, in their view, would nearly collapse. =))

Oh — and even worse: The kingdom could be left with “no more virgins” within 10 years if women are allowed to get behind the wheel. =)) =)) Islamic academics worked with with Kamal Subhi, a former professor at King Fahd University, to complete the report. It was prepared for the Shura Council, the nation’s legislative assembly.

The Telegraph has more regarding the odd — almost unbelievable — nature of the report:

It pointed out that “moral decline” could already be seen in those other Muslim countries in which women are allowed to drive.
In the report Prof Subhi described sitting in a coffee shop in an unnamed Arab state where “all the women were looking at me”.
“One made a gesture that made it clear that she was available,” he said. “This is what happens when women are allowed to drive.” =))

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8930168/Allowing-women-drivers-in-Saudi-Arabia-will-be-end-of-virginity.html

In May, The Blaze brought you the story of Manal al-Sharif, a Saudi woman who launched a campaign against the kingdom’s driving ban. Al-Sharif posted a video of herself driving on both Facebook and YouTube to encourage others to join her in opposing the ban. Brave woman.

In September, another woman — Shaima Ghassaniya — was found guilty of driving without the government’s permission. While she was condemned to have 10 lashes for her purported actions, the government inevitably overturned the sentence.

Below, watch a video that explains activists’ past attempts to overturn the ban:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IEETb3SOuc4

Needless to say, this report is likely to further hamper equal rights in Saudi Arabia, as the nation has worked to diligently to decline women of the most basic freedoms (it is the only country in the world that does not allow women to drive).

Apparently, the government is considering an even more intense anti-female proposal that would command that women who have “tempting” eyes cover them up.
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Re: How to Stop Prostitution, Homosexuality & Divorce’

Postby sbsion » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:15 pm

why doi we care what Islam believes, they have the agency to believe it right? How would we like someone messing with our ideas and want us to change our religious beliefs, fact is, we live in a telestial spiritual manifestation, let them be, forgive them for the know not, and MOST can ever even comprehend :-$
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Postby kathyn » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:21 pm

Gosh, who knew that Saudi Arabia had the answers to moral decay? Oh, I get such a kick out of those Wahhabists.
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Postby Fiannan » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:52 pm

kathyn wrote:Gosh, who knew that Saudi Arabia had the answers to moral decay? Oh, I get such a kick out of those Wahhabists.


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Postby Mary » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:34 pm

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Postby durangout » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:39 pm

I don't know...maybe they're onto something ;)
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Postby seer stone » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:45 pm

Maybe we can take away all driving abilities with women in the west also. Not only will it cut down on prostitution, homosexuality, and divorce, but we won't have any accidents as well.

Ooops--Was I thinking out loud? :YMSMUG:
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Postby Mary » Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:48 pm

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Postby iamse7en » Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:31 pm

After reading the thread title, I thought this was going to be another polygamy debate.
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Postby M249Gunner » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:27 pm

seer stone wrote:Maybe we can take away all driving abilities with women in the west also. Not only will it cut down on prostitution, homosexuality, and divorce, but we won't have any accidents as well.

Ooops--Was I thinking out loud? :YMSMUG:


You have a point! It would have stopped the dumb lady from crashing into my daughter's truck the other day!
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Postby M249Gunner » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:40 pm

(She isn't dumb just because she ran into my daughter's truck, she is dumb because she works at the local high school and has a history of losing my kids assignments).
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Postby Rand » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:43 pm

Eva wrote:SeerStone...*SLAAAAPPPPPPPPP accross the head* :YMTONGUE: :YMTONGUE:

given with love of course! :ymhug: LOL


Eva, you need to do more of that on this forum. Feel free, you have my permission, whenever you want. :)) I bet it kind of felt good, didn't it?
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Re: How to Stop Prostitution, Homosexuality & Divorce’

Postby AshleyB » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:27 am

Sounds to me like the those laws are placing all of the blame for their transgressions on the women. Heavenly Father made women attractive so men would want to be Marry them and procreate. Women should do all they can to be modest but I don't think their beauty needs to be completely covered up and rights taken away. Equal blame should be placed on male and female.
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Re: How to Stop Prostitution, Homosexuality & Divorce’

Postby Rand » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:58 am

Thebestsun, your comment brings to mind this part of the apocryphal Book of the Patriarchs about Joseph and his temptations. I think men bear the total responsibility for their own actions and how they entertain their thoughts. If we could all be so noble as this young man:

"And this chief captain of Pharaoh entrusted to me his house. And I struggled against a shameless woman, urging me to transgress with her; but the God of Israel my father delivered me from 3 the burning flame. I was cast into prison, I was beaten, I was mocked; but the Lord granted me to find mercy in the sight of the keeper of the prison. 4 For the Lord doth not forsake them that fear Him, Neither in darkness, nor in bonds, nor in tribulations, nor in necessities. 5 For God is not put to shame as a man, Nor as the son of man is he afraid, Nor as one that is earth-born is He [weak or] affrighted. 6 But in all those things doth He give protection, And in divers ways doth He comfort, (Though) for a little space He departeth to try the inclination of the soul. 7 In ten temptations He showed me approved, And in all of them I endured; For endurance is a mighty charm, And patience giveth many good things.

3 1 How often did the Egyptian woman threaten me with death! How often did she give me over to punishment, and then call me back and threaten me, and when I was unwilling to company with 2 her, she said to me: Thou shalt be lord of me, and all that is in my house, if thou wilt give thyself 3 unto me, and thou shalt be as our master. But I remembered the words of my father, and going 4 into my chamber, I wept and prayed unto the Lord. And I fasted in those seven years, and I appeared to the Egyptians as one living delicately, for they that fast for God's sake receive beauty of face. 5 And if my lord were away from home, I drank no wine; nor for three days did I take my food, but 6 I gave it to the poor and sick. And I sought the Lord early, and I wept for the Egyptian woman of Memphis, for very unceasingly did she trouble me, for also at night she came to me under pretence of visiting me. 7 And because she had no male child she pretended to regard me as a son, and so I prayed to the Lord, and she bare a male child. 8 And for a time she embraced me as a son, and I knew it not; but later, she sought to draw me 9 into fornication. And when I perceived it I sorrowed unto death; and when she had gone out, I came to myself, and lamented for her many days, because I recognized her guile and her deceit. 10 And I declared unto her the words of the Most High, if haply she would turn from her evil lust.

4 1 Often, therefore, did she flatter me with words as a holy man, and guilefully in her talk praise my 2 chastity before her husband, while desiring to ensnare me when we were alone. For she lauded me openly as chaste, and in secret she said unto me: Fear not my husband; for he is persuaded concerning 3 thy chastity: for even should one tell him concerning us, he would not believe. Owing to all these things I lay upon the ground, and besought God that the Lord would deliver me from her 4 deceit. And when she had prevailed nothing thereby, she came again to me under the plea of 5 instruction, that she might learn the word of God. And she said unto me: If thou willest that I should leave my idols, lie with me, and I will persuade my husband to depart from his idols, and 6 we will walk in the law of thy Lord. And I said unto her: The Lord willeth not that those who reverence Him should be in uncleanness, nor doth He take pleasure in them that commit adultery, 7 but in those that approach Him with a pure heart and undefiled lips. But she held her peace, 8 longing to accomplish her evil desire. And I gave myself yet more to fasting and prayer, that the Lord might deliver me from her.

5 1 And again, at another time she said unto me: If thou wilt not commit adultery, I will kill my 2 husband by poison; and take thee to be my husband. I therefore, when I heard this, rent my garments, and said unto her: Woman, reverence God, and do not this evil deed, lest thou be 3 destroyed; for know indeed that I will declare this thy device unto all men. She therefore, being 4 afraid, besought that I would not declare this device. And she departed soothing me with gifts, and sending to me every delight of the sons of men.

6 1, 2 And afterwards she sent me food mingled with enchantments. And when the eunuch who brought it came, I looked up and beheld a terrible man giving me with the dish a sword, and 3 I perceived that (her) scheme was to beguile me. And when he had gone out I wept, nor did 4 I taste that or any other of her food. So then after one day she came to me and observed the food, 5 and said unto me: Why is it that thou hast not eaten of the food? And I said unto her: It is because thou hast filled it with deadly enchantments; and how saidst thou: I come not near to 6 idols, but to the Lord alone. Now therefore know that the God of my father hath revealed unto me by His angel thy wickedness, and I have kept it to convict thee, if haply thou mayst see and repent. 7 But that thou mayst learn that the wickedness of the ungodly hath no power over them that worship God with chastity, behold I will take of it and eat before thee. And having so said, I prayed thus: The God of my fathers and the angel of Abraham, be with me; and ate. 8 And when she saw this she fell upon her face at my feet, weeping; and I raised her up and admonished her. And she promised to do this iniquity no more.

7 1 But her heart was still set upon evil, and she looked around how to ensnare me, and sighing deeply she became downcast, though she was not sick. 2 And when her husband saw her, he said unto her: Why is thy countenance fallen? And she said unto him: I have a pain at my heart, and the groanings of my spirit oppress me; and so 3 he comforted her who was not sick. Then, accordingly seizing an opportunity, she rushed unto me while her husband was yet without, and said unto me: I will hang myself, or cast myself over a cliff, 4 if thou wilt not lie with me. And when I saw the spirit of Beliar was troubling her, I prayed unto 5 the Lord, and said unto her: Why, wretched woman, art thou troubled and disturbed, blinded through, sins? Remember that if thou kill thyself, Asteho, the concubine of thy husband, thy rival, 6 will beat thy children, and thou wilt destroy thy memorial from off the earth. And she said unto me: Lo, then thou lovest me; let this suffice me: only strive for my life and my children, and 7 I expect that I shall enjoy my desire also. But she knew not that because of my lord I spake 8 thus, and not because of her. For if a man hath fallen before the passion of a wicked desire and become enslaved by it, even as she, whatever good thing he may hear with regard to that passion, he receiveth it with a view to his wicked desire.

8 1 I declare, therefore, unto you, my children, that it was about the sixth hour when she departed from me; and I knelt before the Lord all day, and all the night; and about dawn I rose up, weeping 2 the while and praying for a release from her. At last, then, she laid hold of my garments, forcibly dragging me to have connexion with her. 3 When, therefore, I saw that in her madness she was holding fast to my garment, I left it behind, and fled away naked. 4 And holding fast to the garment she falsely accused me, and when her husband came he cast me into prison in his house; and on the morrow he scourged me and sent me into Pharaoh's prison. 5 And when I was in bonds, the Egyptian woman was oppressed with grief, and she came and heard how I gave thanks unto the Lord and sang praises in the abode of darkness, and with glad voice rejoiced, glorifying my God that I was delivered from the lustful desire of the Egyptian woman."
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