romney/rubio ticket?

[sourcedistcaptain of 100]

calling my shots now..

this wont happen.. it will be tagged(no pun) as a "mormon ticket" of sorts.. even though rubio is now a practicing catholic..

even if the media forgets rubio's lds past, they will play up the whole 'taking orders from slc and the vatican' thing.

[SempiternalHarbingercaptain of 1,000]

Rubio is not even a natural born citizen! Not qualified. But that didn't stop Obama now did it

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

I still think Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin have a good shot. It'll be interesting to see how Mitt plays this. Jeb Bush possible. Rand Paul probably killed any miniscule chance he had by criticizing Romney's foreign policy.

The honest truth is he could choose Hillary and they probably wouldn't have much of note to disagree on. Think about it.

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

I still think Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin have a good shot. It'll be interesting to see how Mitt plays this. Jeb Bush possible. Rand Paul probably killed any miniscule chance he had by criticizing Romney's foreign policy.

The honest truth is he could choose Hillary and they probably wouldn't have much of note to disagree on. Think about it.

The woman ticket doesn't work, never has.

[SempiternalHarbingercaptain of 1,000]

I still think Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin have a good shot. It'll be interesting to see how Mitt plays this. Jeb Bush possible. Rand Paul probably killed any miniscule chance he had by criticizing Romney's foreign policy.

The honest truth is he could choose Hillary and they probably wouldn't have much of note to disagree on. Think about it.

Now that's a scary thought. I know this is sad but I believe Romney has no shot whatsoever. The establishment has got there man and believe they intend on keeping him there. The rest is a dog and pony show. IMO

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

The woman ticket doesn't work, never has.

Ever head of "Normalcy Bias"? I know it refers usually to catacysmic type events... but it also applies a bit here. It's the "it's never happened so it won't ever happen" view of the world.

Now that's a scary thought. I know this is sad but I believe Romney has no shot whatsoever. The establishment has got there man and believe they intend on keeping him there. The rest is a dog and pony show. IMO

I couldn't agree more. I think we'll see another "false-flag" soon to usher in Obama's next session of dictatorship.

-- Geoff

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

The woman ticket doesn't work, never has.

Ever head of "Normalcy Bias"? I know it refers usually to catacysmic type events... but it also applies a bit here. It's the "it's never happened so it won't ever happen" view of the world.

Now that's a scary thought. I know this is sad but I believe Romney has no shot whatsoever. The establishment has got there man and believe they intend on keeping him there. The rest is a dog and pony show. IMO

I couldn't agree more. I think we'll see another "false-flag" soon to usher in Obama's next session of dictatorship.

-- Geoff

Unless the Lord has anything to say about it! I believe he does...

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

Unless the Lord has anything to say about it! I believe he does...

Just curious... why do you believe the Lord would back up someone who violates and doesn't understand the "law of the land" that God himself inspired and put here?

-- Geoff

[SempiternalHarbingercaptain of 1,000]

I pray your right Juliette! Time is short, all to short for the task we must do!

[sourcedistcaptain of 100]

Unless the Lord has anything to say about it! I believe he does...

Just curious... why do you believe the Lord would back up someone who violates and doesn't understand the "law of the land" that God himself inspired and put here?

-- Geoff

wasnt abraham commanded to declare his wife as his sister ?

maybe the same principle applies here..

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

Unless the Lord has anything to say about it! I believe he does...

Just curious... why do you believe the Lord would back up someone who violates and doesn't understand the "law of the land" that God himself inspired and put here?

-- Geoff

With God, anything is possible. Romney understands more that you think. I'm willing to give him a chance.

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

I pray your right Juliette! Time is short, all to short for the task we must do!

I pray too Semp! ( thanks for being my friend!)

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

Unless the Lord has anything to say about it! I believe he does...

Just curious... why do you believe the Lord would back up someone who violates and doesn't understand the "law of the land" that God himself inspired and put here?

-- Geoff

wasnt abraham commanded to declare his wife as his sister ?

maybe the same principle applies here..

It's this kind of contortionist rationalization that convinces me this country is without hope.

"Yeah! Yeah! God commanded a prophet to lie once, so maybe the fact that this politician that has made a career of being on the wrong side of the issue - Yeah! Yeah! It is all just a very convoluted secret plan!"

We are living the movie "Idiocracy".

[sourcedistcaptain of 100]

cmon OI.. i was just throwing out some food for thought.. i may not be as articulate as most on this board, but i like to think my essence emits a bit of intelligence.. certainly more so than those who are fixiated on dancing with the stars, etc..

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

Yeah that was an over reaction. I think I reached a "straw that broke the camel's back" threshold...and the truth is, there is way too much of this kind of stretching to cover for Mitt, people that support him see this as a great unfolding of God's will, just as I am sure a lot of people thought that Obama was the second coming back in '08...

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

With God, anything is possible.

I guess maybe he could be like Saul and like Alma the younger and get completely smacked around by God and change his ways. But until he has that happen there's no way I can vote for a liar, or someone that can't understand even the simplest components of our GOD INSPIRED constitution.

Romney understands more that you think.

I think your right, I think he totally knows he's trampling the constitution, our liberties, our freedoms! Other than that, what more is it that you think he knows?

I'm willing to give him a chance.

To me this is like setting a lion loose in a China shop and not expecting things to get smashed.

But to each their own. Romney can't save us.

-- Geoff

[HeirofNumenorthe Heir Of Numenor]

There still is time for Henry Kissinger to be proven right in regards to Jeb Bush.....

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

But to each their own. Romney can't save us.

-- Geoff

Alma The Younger didn't get the votes of a lot of people after his conversion, he had to go to the people and apologize for his actions.

Alma and Amulek stood by watching the murder of innocent women and children, deserted by their husbands who ran in fear. Amulek wanted to stop the murder using his Priesthood power, but Alma, who had a great understand of salvation, explained to Amulek "no we won't stop the murders, those women and children burned to death were saved.

Alma and Amulek then chased down the cowardly husbands, informed them of the deaths of their wives and children, then started in on converting them. One, Zeezrom had a very difficult time with his past choices, but was converted in spite of those choices, become a missionary and accompanied Alma on his mission to teach and convert the people.

Arron explained to the Lamanite king who had himself committed many murders that his desires to be saved would happen and explained how!

The Apostle Paul had much to over come and did so--

I could go on and on, But I find it amazing how much you guys worry about Mitt Romney, some of you even deny him the Holy Priesthood, but you forget entirely about repentance! You won't allow Mitt to repent of the sins you perceive he has committed, and again, these are perceived sins in your own minds.

Mitt has not abandoned his wife and children, he has a great family! He has been and still is a missionary, he has been and still holds the office of Bishop, he has been and still holds the office of Stake President, he's just not serving in those capacities at the moment, but he'll soon be President of the United States.

How many of you who constantly gripe and moan about Mitt can say the same?

Like our Lord helped Alma and Paul, like Alma and Amulek helped Zeezrum, like Arron, Ammon, and their brothers and other companions helped the Lamanites, all taught repentance! Let's give Mitt the chance to repent, he's going to be our next president, It would be wise of us to forgive him of his "perceived" indiscretions!

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone!"

Bob

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

But to each their own. Romney can't save us.

-- Geoff

Alma The Younger didn't get the votes of a lot of people after his conversion, he had to go to the people and apologize for his actions.

Bob

Fine, I'll be willing to vote for Romney when he publicly apologizes for his willingness to completely ignore the constitution and shows a stalwart position to follow it.

-- Geoff

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

But to each their own. Romney can't save us.

-- Geoff

Alma The Younger didn't get the votes of a lot of people after his conversion, he had to go to the people and apologize for his actions.

Alma and Amulek stood by watching the murder of innocent women and children, deserted by their husbands who ran in fear. Amulek wanted to stop the murder using his Priesthood power, but Alma, who had a great understand of salvation, explained to Amulek "no we won't stop the murders, those women and children burned to death were saved.

Alma and Amulek then chased down the cowardly husbands, informed them of the deaths of their wives and children, then started in on converting them. One, Zeezrom had a very difficult time with his past choices, but was converted in spite of those choices, become a missionary and accompanied Alma on his mission to teach and convert the people.

Arron explained to the Lamanite king who had himself committed many murders that his desires to be saved would happen and explained how!

The Apostle Paul had much to over come and did so--

I could go on and on, But I find it amazing how much you guys worry about Mitt Romney, some of you even deny him the Holy Priesthood, but you forget entirely about repentance! You won't allow Mitt to repent of the sins you perceive he has committed, and again, these are perceived sins in your own minds.

Mitt has not abandoned his wife and children, he has a great family! He has been and still is a missionary, he has been and still holds the office of Bishop, he has been and still holds the office of Stake President, he's just not serving in those capacities at the moment, but he'll soon be President of the United States.

How many of you who constantly gripe and moan about Mitt can say the same?

Like our Lord helped Alma and Paul, like Alma and Amulek helped Zeezrum, like Arron, Ammon, and their brothers and other companions helped the Lamanites, all taught repentance! Let's give Mitt the chance to repent, he's going to be our next president, It would be wise of us to forgive him of his "perceived" indiscretions!

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone!"

Bob

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

But to each their own. Romney can't save us.

-- Geoff

Alma The Younger didn't get the votes of a lot of people after his conversion, he had to go to the people and apologize for his actions.

Bob

Fine, I'll be willing to vote for Romney when he publicly apologizes for his willingness to completely ignore the constitution and shows a stalwart position to follow it.

-- Geoff

And should I demand an apology from you when it becomes obvious that you have been wrong all along? Or should I forgive you?

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

Is LateOutOfBed running for public office, or has he exhibited past behavior that demonstrates complete lack of qualification for office, such as protecting a woman's right to choose to kill her unborn child, supported gay pride events, supported a gay couple's :right: to adopt, or indefinite detention of U.S. citizen's without access to an attorney and without charges being made? Any rational person who is even trying will realize that no one is demanding an apology for every mistake or sin that Romney has ever committed - that is between him and the Lord. However, when running for political office, if one has made serious mistakes or yes, even sins in the past, would not the proper thing to do be to admit the error and apologize for it? Now, if flip flopping your position counts as an apology I suppose you are right - Mitt deserves credit for being the most apologetic person to ever run for president.

His position on NDAA has to change for him to even be under consideration. Save yourselves the effort of typing the lesser of two evils argument that Obama must be defeated, Mitt's the priesthood holder, etc.

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

And should I demand an apology from you when it becomes obvious that you have been wrong all along? Or should I forgive you?

I'll gladly apologize if I'm wrong on Mitt. So, IF he wins the presidency AND he turns to the constitution and becomes a righteous leader.. then I will gladly admit I was wrong. Do you have the courage to do the same if you are wrong and IF he wins the presidency and he continues the decline of our nation that you will admit you were?

So, just remind me in 4 years if our country isn't completely a waste by then. No need to "DEMAND" anything from me... or is that your style? You like to bully just as much as you claim others do?

-- Geoff

[karend77captain of 100]

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has submitted paperwork to the Romney campaign and is officially being vetted for the vice presidential nomination, National Review reported late Friday afternoon.

Citing unnamed sources, writer Robert Costa said he was “reliably informed” of the development with the House Budget Committee chair.

Ryan endorsed Romney earlier this year and has repeatedly joined him on the campaign stump. Ryan’s camp declined to shed any light on the revelation, telling National Review, “Respecting their campaign’s internal process, we’re not going to comment.”


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report- ... an-for-vp/

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

And should I demand an apology from you when it becomes obvious that you have been wrong all along? Or should I forgive you?

I'll gladly apologize if I'm wrong on Mitt. So, IF he wins the presidency AND he turns to the constitution and becomes a righteous leader.. then I will gladly admit I was wrong. Do you have the courage to do the same if you are wrong and IF he wins the presidency and he continues the decline of our nation that you will admit you were?

So, just remind me in 4 years if our country isn't completely a waste by then. No need to "DEMAND" anything from me... or is that your style? You like to bully just as much as you claim others do?

-- Geoff

First, the most likely outcome is that Obama wins in November, in which case we get to hear the mitt Romney supporters bellyache for the next four years how we Paulistas "voted" Obama into office.

Second, if Romney wins, he certainly will not have an agenda to do anything to change, say, current abortion laws. He has said what he had to to convince the conservative right that he is there man, but it is more of a philosophical thing. Mitt certainly has not even indicated that changing abortion law is an agenda item for him. At all. He has just said that his views on abortion have changed. But even if he does make some half hearted attempt to changed anything, trust me, the liklihood is that nothing will change and the Mitt supporters will blame Congress for being uncooperative, or obstructive, or the Supreme Court legislated from the bench. I will bet anyone money right now, that if Mitt wins we will be in worse shape four years down the road than we are now, and I will further bet you that all of the Romneyites will be saying we need to give him another four years AND a better Congress to work with. I will bet a dollar to a dime that you won't find 1 in 100 MORMON supporters of Mitt Romney that will ever own up that they were wrong and he should not have been supported.

If Romney even holds the line and keeps things from getting worse, it will be far more than I expect from him. I expect he will continue to sell wars to us, strip our liberties from us, etc. per the NWO playbook - even though I don;t believe he is "in" on the NWO, he SO wants to be accepted by that crowd.

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

Well OI, we can certainly see how far Ron Paul's message got with the American people can't we? He and you his followers have had to resort to outright theft in an attempt to get further, and amazingly, that theft is counted as righteousness by him and by you his disciples! Stunning, is all I can say about your methods, just stunningly crooked!

We're told that the Laminates got rid of their gadiantons by preaching repentance and converting them, not by killing them. We won't have that option, ours will be taken by the plague and internal wars, state against state, city against city.

Perhaps a H5N1 plague, who knows, but a plague it will be! All you anti injection people will rue the day-----

Bob

[Matthew.Bcaptain of 100]

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone!"

Like calling your brethren "paulistas"? If you stop doing that, and stop mocking your brothers and root for a hoped-for public embarassment, and ask for forgivenenss publicly, then your posts referencing scripture won't come across as hypocritical.

Re: Romney's priesthood: many are called but few are chosen... A man's priesthood turns to his condemnation if he refuses to abide by the eternal principles which govern it. If Romney were to rebel against God he would be in a worse situation- and have a greater desire to do evil- than a non-Priesthood holder. And holding the priesthood is no guarantee of righteousness- see, for example, many of the early LDS converts (including a majority of the first 12) who were ordained to the Priesthood then fell away. See also the rest of Noah's priests (besides Alma), the wicked ancient Israeli priests, Judas Iscariot even...

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

Mathew, all my attacks on RP and his disciples "follow" attacks on us, Mitt and his supporters! I'm simply giving the paulistas a bit of their own medicine! They want me to stop, then STOP! It's that easy!

Bob

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

Mathew, all my attacks on RP and his disciples "follow" attacks on us, Mitt and his supporters! I'm simply giving the paulistas a bit of their own medicine! They want me to stop, then STOP! It's that easy!

Bob

Exactly! Where have you been Matthew? Try and keep up!

[larsenbcaptain of 1,000]

Mathew, all my attacks on RP and his disciples "follow" attacks on us, Mitt and his supporters! I'm simply giving the paulistas a bit of their own medicine! They want me to stop, then STOP! It's that easy!

Bob

Your use of 'paulistas' gets a bit old, Bob. Has anybody called you a mittista or a romnista, yet? I'm still wondering what you would do if Harry Reid was the potential candidate. Who would be your choice then? Would you be a reidista or a harryista, or what?