VACCINE INFOWAR IN CARDSTON COUNTRY

[ILoveMyChildrenHi, I'm new.]

When our first children experienced adverse reactions to immunizations we decided that it was not the route we wanted to take.
Then when my oldest was preparing for his mission in 2006 we again faced the decision about immunizations. We thought that we had no options. We would try to prepare his body as best we could before he received them and then try to detoxify and strengthen him afterward. He served his mission in South America. He first began experiencing ear infections, then there was loss of weight attributed to parasites, he started experiencing episodes of depression. We would write him encouraging letters and he seemed to respond. (This is a young man who was valedictorian in his graduating class, self-motivated, placed in national competitions with Business Professionals of America, and earned enough money the summer following his senior year to pay for his mission by writing computer programs). In the spring of 2007 I received a phone call I will never forget. Identifying himself as a doctor and Missionary serving in my son’s mission, he informed me that my son was psychotic and suicidal. They wanted permission to put him on psychotropic drugs. My husband being a mental health counselor was familiar with the drugs and we felt very uncomfortable with the idea. Instead of taking the time to fast and prayer about our uncomfortable feeling, we consented. He was escorted home less than 2 weeks later. We spent 6 months weaning him off from the psychotropic medications using the help of a qualified Naturopathic Doctor and providing 24 hour supervision 7 days a week at times. This was against the recommendations of a good intentioned LDS doctor (who told us that if we did he would end up sleeping under a bridge or something worse). Our Stake President suggested that we follow the advice of our Doctor. He only wanted what was best for our son. The doctor told us that it would be better for our son to get diabetes (a common side effect of the drug). We followed the doctor’s advice for a month until he told us that they would have to change medications and keep trying until they found the right one. We told him that if we had to try something different we wanted to try nourishing him naturally first.
We quoted the Prophet Spencer W. Kimball (October 1981, President Kimball Speaks out on Administration to the sick).
“We should do all we can for ourselves first: dieting, resting, taking simple herbs known to be effective, and applying common sense, especially to minor trouble. Then we could send for the elders, the home teachers, the neighbors or friends in whom we have confidence. Frequently this is all that is required, and numerous healings can be effected. In serious cases where the problem is not solved, we turn to our skilled and helpful men who can help so wonderfully.”
We struggled a lot with our decision but could only find peace in going natural. We prayed a lot. Our saving grace was that our son too would pray a lot. When things would get tough the three of us knelt in prayer. There were many priesthood blessings. He appeared to be better and much improved but had a relapse a year later. Again we nurtured him back to health. He is now attending college and doing quite well. He is very careful with what he eats and about taking nutritional supplements. I can honestly say that we lived a nightmare that I would not wish upon anyone. While many would argue that there is no way to tie our experience with vaccines, we feel that they contributed. Our oldest three children have the most health problems. After that we quit immunizing. Our youngest four are our healthiest children.
Our second son will turn 18 in February. He has struggled with allergies since receiving his first set of immunizations. We now are now faced with the decision again. This time we will spend the time to fast and pray for the right decision for him. May each of you do the same.

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

Thanks for sharing that, ILMC. See page 4 for an in-depth discussion of missionary vaccinations -- your options, and how to deal with concerns regarding them appropriately.

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[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

See page 7 for some extremely persuasive vaccine resistance info.


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[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

...since this is near the top of a new page, I wanted to re-emphasize this, from page 7...

...posted this on another thread, recently. It contains important information about polio and where you may still be able to get a dvd of neuro-specialist and brain surgeon, Russell Blaylock, MD's presentation on how vaccinations cause brain damage.

Since neuro-specialist and brain surgeon Dr Russell Blaylock's presentation has apparently been censored, I'll share from memory a salient point or two from his extremely credible and vaccine-industry-devastating presentation.

1. As is typical with all other contagious diseases in the history of the world, the population developed natural immunity which had nothing-what-so-ever to do with the vaccine. In countries where no polio vaccine was given, the mortality and morbidity rates declined at the same rate or better than in those countries where the vaccination was given. Several other sources document this, besides Dr Blaylock. Go to page 7 of the thread, Vaccine Infowar In Cardston County:

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2. The polio epidemic was greatly accentuated by the DPT vaccine. Dr Blaylock, in his presentation revealed that he had discovered from his research of the data -- that the vast majority of those in the United States, who suffered death or permanent paralysis from contracting the polio virus, had been vaccinated with the DPT shot prior -- which impaired their immune systems and rendered them unable to adequately defend themselves against the polio virus, which for most healthy, non-immuno-compromised people is typically a very mild disease with no residual effects. This is one of the Vaccine Industry's dirty little secrets they want very much to be kept hidden. They count on people continuing to believe the myth -- that vaccinations saved them from the terrible monster, polio -- when in reality vaccinations had actually worsened the polio epidemic, which through the natural course of history died out despite the vaccines, not because of them...just as it did in countries where no polio vaccinations had been given. Of course Big Pharma and their powerful propaganda machine stepped in and claimed that they had saved us. Nothing could be further from the truth. It was actually God's marvelous creation, our bodies -- and the ingenius, incredible immune systems that God placed in our bodies -- that saved us...not Big Pharma's vaccines...and that principle is even further strengthened by diligently living the Spirit of all the verses contained in section 89.

Although the several online versions of that presentation by Russell Blaylock, M.D. appear to no longer be available, if one has an interest, I found one place that might still have some in dvd version for about $20.00, here:

http://www.radioliberty.com/vvabd.html

Having seen the presentation a couple of times in the past year or so, I highly recommend it for viewing if you can possibly get your hands on it.

I have no fear what-so-ever for the coming plagues that shall surely come and for which man's puny arm, including Big Pharma and their vaccines shall not stop. The great promise of the Word of Wisdom and the protective power of the Priesthood are more than good enough for me. That is where I place my trust. If others feel the need to give themselves and family members over to Big Pharma's dangerous and evil, aborted-fetal-cell (many of them) containing witch's brew, vaccines -- that is their prerogative.

Unsurprisingly, thus far, that approach has been a great health blessing to our family. None of our 5 kids have allergies or the many typical health problems that so many of their vaccinated cousins do...and believe me, there is a plague of allergies and other auto-immune disorders and neurological disorders out there, due to vaccinations...due to parents and grandparents giving into the fear and buying the myth that Big Pharma, your government, the World Health Organization, the United Nations, the eugenicist elite, the modern-day-secret-combination and their mouth-piece, the main-stream media wants you to. It should be obvious that each of those I just named, very, very much want you to vaccinate. I advocate doing just the opposite. Vaccinations are a fraud and they certainly are very, very dangerous. Sadly, I know so very, very many that have been vaccine-damaged -- permanently.

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I have since found another on-line version...go to the bottom of this page to see it, while you still can.

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

...and this...

Some of you might be interested in a very lively discussion about vaccinations that came up recently at LDSLiving.com (a subsidiary of Deseret Book). Here is the link:

http://ldsliving.com/search?q=vaccines

Go to the comment sections of each of the three articles dated 8-9-11 for some extremely interesting info...including information regarding missionary shots that resulted in devastating, debilitating, crippling auto-immune disorders that prevented several prospective missionaries from being able to serve their missions...not to mention thousands of cases of autism amongst young, innocent babies and toddlers amongst our people (church members) -- babies and toddlers upon whom vaccinations have been forced -- while amongst very large populations of unvaccinated persons the incidence of autism is ZERO. One of those populations is 35,000 -- the other is 249,000...compared to the absolutely staggering, current national average -- a veritable plague -- of about one out of 100 cases of autism -- now occurring in vaccinated populations.

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[momto5captain of 50]

I'm trying to decide if I want to go the no vaccine route or get some of them for my kids. My kids are all updated expect for my almost two year old has not been to the doctor since her nine month apt. So she's missed any 12 and 18 month shots. My kids have had no obvious reaction and their add/adhd comes from both sides of the family. For the first time ever I felt apprehensive about giving my youngest her 12 month shots so I didn't take her in. I had already learned a bit about vaccines with the kid before her so that wasn't the reason for the way I felt. I guess I just knew if I had her get her shots she wouldn't be the same. I felt so strong about that it scared me. Now I'm in limbo not knowing if I should give some or none. I wonder if it's still important to get shots for stuff like meningitis. We don't do flu shots. My two oldest had theirs at 5 and three with only the oldest getting both shots the first time. That's the only year my oldest got the flu. Never again have we gotten flu shots and never will. At no other time have my kids ever had the flu. I haven't prayed about it yet because I'm trying to make my decision first, but I just can't seem to come to one. Any thoughts?

[JasonI am a nobody!]

I'm trying to decide if I want to go the no vaccine route or get some of them for my kids. My kids are all updated expect for my almost two year old has not been to the doctor since her nine month apt. So she's missed any 12 and 18 month shots. My kids have had no obvious reaction and their add/adhd comes from both sides of the family. For the first time ever I felt apprehensive about giving my youngest her 12 month shots so I didn't take her in. I had already learned a bit about vaccines with the kid before her so that wasn't the reason for the way I felt. I guess I just knew if I had her get her shots she wouldn't be the same. I felt so strong about that it scared me. Now I'm in limbo not knowing if I should give some or none. I wonder if it's still important to get shots for stuff like meningitis. We don't do flu shots. My two oldest had theirs at 5 and three with only the oldest getting both shots the first time. That's the only year my oldest got the flu. Never again have we gotten flu shots and never will. At no other time have my kids ever had the flu. I haven't prayed about it yet because I'm trying to make my decision first, but I just can't seem to come to one. Any thoughts?

New documentary at the link that may be useful in making your decision (only available until Sunday) -
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... _DNL_Art_1

[momto5captain of 50]

Thanks for the link. I've studied a ton this last year especially on vaccines and I don't want to give them to my kids. But at the same time I don't want to have a child die of a disease that could have been prevented such as meningitis. I also understand though that 1. If it's their time to die then it's time and 2. People have gotten sick and died for who knows how long. It's just a fact of life. Then there is the CPS issue if say my kid died from a disease and I didn't give them the vaccine will they take away the kids or give jail time. I find myself living in fear sometimes. Probably because I homeschool too. I'm a big red bullseye. I had to explain to my mom, who is a social worker, the limits of CPS in regards to homeschool when she decided to tell me what she thinks I should be doing. I just started my fourth year so I'm not new to this. I feel like the persecution has begun from all different angles in society. I don't want to live in fear of my choices but I also know even the Saints won't be spared. In spite off all this when I've made a decision I don't back down unless the spirit says otherwise. I guess that's one of my strengths. I guess it's time to pray between all three vaccine choices as I can't seem to decide on just one.

[JasonI am a nobody!]

Thanks for the link. I've studied a ton this last year especially on vaccines and I don't want to give them to my kids. But at the same time I don't want to have a child die of a disease that could have been prevented such as meningitis. I also understand though that 1. If it's their time to die then it's time and 2. People have gotten sick and died for who knows how long. It's just a fact of life. Then there is the CPS issue if say my kid died from a disease and I didn't give them the vaccine will they take away the kids or give jail time. I find myself living in fear sometimes. Probably because I homeschool too. I'm a big red bullseye. I had to explain to my mom, who is a social worker, the limits of CPS in regards to homeschool when she decided to tell me what she thinks I should be doing. I just started my fourth year so I'm not new to this. I feel like the persecution has begun from all different angles in society. I don't want to live in fear of my choices but I also know even the Saints won't be spared. In spite off all this when I've made a decision I don't back down unless the spirit says otherwise. I guess that's one of my strengths. I guess it's time to pray between all three vaccine choices as I can't seem to decide on just one.

Yeah the "I know whats best for YOU" is getting pretty intense (even within the church). Ultimately you go with the guidance of the Spirit....then what comes....comes....but you did the best you could with the knowledge you had at the time.

[Jerath23captain of 10]

Thanks for the link. I've studied a ton this last year especially on vaccines and I don't want to give them to my kids. But at the same time I don't want to have a child die of a disease that could have been prevented such as meningitis. I also understand though that 1. If it's their time to die then it's time and 2. People have gotten sick and died for who knows how long. It's just a fact of life. Then there is the CPS issue if say my kid died from a disease and I didn't give them the vaccine will they take away the kids or give jail time. I find myself living in fear sometimes. Probably because I homeschool too. I'm a big red bullseye. I had to explain to my mom, who is a social worker, the limits of CPS in regards to homeschool when she decided to tell me what she thinks I should be doing. I just started my fourth year so I'm not new to this. I feel like the persecution has begun from all different angles in society. I don't want to live in fear of my choices but I also know even the Saints won't be spared. In spite off all this when I've made a decision I don't back down unless the spirit says otherwise. I guess that's one of my strengths. I guess it's time to pray between all three vaccine choices as I can't seem to decide on just one.

I don't know whats best but I would recommend taking your questions with you to the temple, that is where I go with my toughest decisions, I have a 1 yr 4mo son and the vaccine issue weighs heavily on my mind I am going to the temple on the 12th.

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

Momto5 and Jerath23, in case you missed this from page 7, this should help. The interview is relatively short, and will lead you to some extremely persuasive information which is referenced during the interview. We have never vaccinated any of our 5 children and we never will...and you won't find a healthier family.

DC

Guest Appearance on the Stanley Monteith, M.D. Show

A listener of the Stanley Monteith, M.D. nationally syndicated radio show sent Dr Monteith a link to an interview that was done of me in September of 2009, on the subject of vaccinations and eugenics. After viewing the interview, Dr Monteith contacted me and invited me to be a guest on his September 8th, 2010 program. We had a very important and lively discussion regarding the fraud and dangers of vaccines...and a plan of what we can actually do about it. He is a very well respected authority on this and other related subjects. You can see a biography of some of Dr Stanley Monteith's life and works below.

Here is the link to the audio file:

http://archives2010.gcnlive.com/Archive ... 908101.mp3

(If you are using Internet Explorer it may take a few minutes for the audio file to load. It will seem as if nothing is happening...you just need to be patient and allow time for the audio file to load. If you use Firefox however, it should begin playing immediately and finish loading while it is playing.)


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Bio of Dr Stanley Monteith

Dr. Stanley Monteith graduated from the University of California Medical School in 1952, entered a four year residency program in Orthopedic surgery, and opened his medical practice in 1960. Two years later, he began studying the political and economic forces that control the world. He has traveled to other countries, interviewed national and international leaders, and lectured on several continents.

He has spent over 47 years researching the movement by the global elite to remove our national sovereignty and enslave the planet. He has written two books, including the highly recommended "Brotherhood of Darkness", which reveals the forces that rule the world and why many of our leaders are destroying our nation. Dr. Monteith currently does 5 hours of talk radio a day on three radio networks. For info, visit http://www.radioliberty.com.

Dr Stanley Monteith is one of the foremost and respected experts in the world -- of the secret workings of the elite men that wish to rule over us -- and the world.

The following two presentations of Dr Stan Monteith are highly recommended viewing -- to grasp the larger picture of what is going on in the world today...and why you and your family really are targeted by these evil men -- for harm -- for the furtherance of their own evil purposes.


Brotherhood of Darkness

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 923817439#


...also important...


None Dare Call It Genocide

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 429&hl=en#

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

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[AngelPalmonicaptain of 100]

Hello, I'd like to add something about diseases and our fear of them without a vaccine. Medical Science, no offence intended, for the most part I find is a revolving door. They never actually solve the real problem in your body. They don't want you to be super healthy yet they don't want you to die. They cut out the cancer or blast it with radiation or whatever they do it usually only takes care of the visible problem. They give you tons of different kinds of pain meds for pain, and tons of other drugs to treat the symptoms of other diseases. We never seem to understand that we can heal ourselves completely and totally in a way that can cure Polio, Multiple sclerosis, Diabetes, Depression, Cancers, and even the common cold! I think there are many ways to do this, first and foremost is just eating healthy, Mucus-less diet. But that is for the 90 and 9. For the one who is very seriously sick or dying more drastic things need to be done with Herbs, Teas, Programs, Fomentations and even herbal Enemas. Many of the Early Brethren were herbalists, if I'm correct I believe Brigham Tea was named after Brigham Young.

I will not have the conversation on healthy eating as this really seems to rub everyone the wrong way, as we are more addicted to FOOD than Drunks and Druggies are addicted to their stuff. A simple conversation about the word of wisdom usually ends up with me losing a few friends. If you don't want to do the research on getting the proper proteins, amino acids, and vitamins from simply sprouts and greens and the many other 100s of raw organics then, "forget about it". Don't think your addicted to food? Try not eating Sugar, Bread, Meat and Dairy for ONE WEEK, if you can do that then do it for a month, I bet you feel like a million Bucks. But just the withdrawal from that stuff would make your spouse divorce you because Food=Happiness to most of us. Birthday, Celebrations, Rewards, Failure, Coping, Holidays, Family Gathering, Church Functions, all of these involve ridiculous amounts of unhealthy addicting foods.

Some of my personal Favourite Sources of Research Right Now is...
http://www.herballegacy.com/
http://www.hippocratesinst.org/
Any of Dr. Christopher's Books are amazing
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... er&x=0&y=0
Any Books by a Dr. Brian Clement are awesome!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... an+Clement

[AngelPalmonicaptain of 100]

Sorry I wanted to add this list of articles, I find it quite fun!

http://www.herballegacy.com/Articles.html

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

I will not have the conversation on healthy eating as this really seems to rub everyone the wrong way, as we are more addicted to FOOD than Drunks and Druggies are addicted to their stuff. A simple conversation about the word of wisdom usually ends up with me losing a few friends. If you don't want to do the research on getting the proper proteins, amino acids, and vitamins from simply sprouts and greens and the many other 100s of raw organics then, "forget about it". Don't think your addicted to food? Try not eating Sugar, Bread, Meat and Dairy for ONE WEEK,

I can do without the meat and dairy( (and usually do) and the bread easily enough, but the sugar kills me. I know I am addicted and it is hard not to have the treats. Even if I don't buy them, I have to resort to eating chocolate chips sometimes.
I would be interested in having the conversation on healthy eating, you should start a thread. I am particualarly interested in what you think about eating wheat (W.O.W.) but not eating bread.

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

...important info here...and of course, the same evil forces behind what is described here, also want you fully vaccinated.

Slow Kill Holocaust: Proof the Government is Killing You





...for additional information and documentation see the following link:

http://www.infowars.com/slow-kill-holoc ... oning-you/

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

...posted this elsewhere on the forum, about a month ago...will post it here now, as well...

For a complete and very, very interesting discussion of all of this as it relates to the Church -- that took place recently at LDSliving.com (a subsidiary of Deseret Book, with 80,0000 subscribers, worldwide), view the comment sections of the three articles dated 8-9-11 at the following link:

http://ldsliving.com/search?q=vaccines&x=45&y=4

Thank you for this link. Although the articles were clearly slanted, the comments were very eye opening to me. I can see there is a movement of truth about vaccination sweeping through the country, and through the church. For a long time I felt like we were very alone in our understanding of the "evils and designs" in this regard, and I'm so glad to see that is no longer the case.

That is a very important and astute observation, SisterP. Having been very much involved in the Vaccine Resistance Movement for the past 2 1/2 years, both outside of the Church and within it -- I have been very, very happy with the progress that has been made. I would encourage others, besides SisterP to take the opportunity to review the comments after all three of the articles dated 8-9-11 [especially the one entitled, "Vaccines: An Ounce of Prevention"] at LDSliving.com, referenced in the link to which SisterP just referred.

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[uglypitbullcaptain of 1,000]

I have a question....didn't the church leadership tell us it was an issue for us to pray about, and to follow the Spirit? I thought that was the official church response now but cant remember where I read it. I know on Provident Living it talks about getting vaccines but I also believe that was written in the 70's...not sure why its still up there if the stance has changed.

FWIW.....having been someone who thought non vaccinated kids were all owned by dirty hippies, I have done extensive research on this and have become one such hippie, but clean.. LOL!

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

For additional insight on that, Pit -- go to the first page of this thread where that is discussed in-depth. Also see SisterP's post towards the bottom of page 7 regarding her response from the First Presidency on the subject. Then go to the link at LDSliving.com referenced in the post immediately above, where it is discussed extensively in a setting where there are 80,000 LDS subscribers.

[uglypitbullcaptain of 1,000]

Thanks.....that answered my questions

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[Istand4truthcaptain of 100]

Thank you so much for this thread. I have struggled with this issue over the years. I stopped vaccinating my children seven years ago because of the concerns I have. I have researched this issue for years. I was on the fence and gave my youngest his first set of shots. I had read about the immune system being hindered by vaccines and the ear infections that were seen after routine vaccinations. Not knowing if it were true or not I decided to just go along with the vaccines. Well, low and behold my youngest got sick and had an ear infection the week after being vaccinated. This kid had been fine and in perfect health before this. That made me think that there was probably some truth to what I had been researching. We haven't vaccinated since then. I signed philosophical waivers so that my kids could skip their kindergarten shots. We have stopped all vaccines for now. my youngest is definitely the healthiest of all of my kids. He nursed until he was two years old and has not had any more vaccines. He is hardly ever sick, and the few times he does get sick he recovers quickly.

Now fast forward seven years and I have children preparing for missions. I have one son out who is serving in the states so he was able to skip the vaccines. My second son just received his mission call to serve in a foreign mission. I gave him the choice. He chose to serve foreign knowing he would have to take vaccines. This has been a very frustrating time for me as I study up on what I can do to help him get through his battery of vaccines. I have read about supplements that can boost his immune system. Having this information has helped me go forward. Prayer has also been helpful. He has had two vaccines so far. We are spacing them out and strengthening his immune system with supplements. So far he has done well, but I have been on his case about taking his supplements. We have used some of the things on this list from Dr. Blaylock on what to do if force vaccinated:

http://www.distance-healer.com/20.html

I would be interested in talking privately with people who have gotten a waiver from certain vaccines that have gone foreign. If there are any.
We tried to get a waiver from the hepatitis B vaccine from the missionary medical department but we were denied this. (It's a long story). We were told that there was no way we would get this waiver and that if my son did not take the hepatitis B vaccine he would have to be reassigned to a states mission. We will go forward with the hep b vaccine reluctantly.

I would like to correspond privately with other Moms here who have had experiences trying to get exemptions from vaccines. I would also like to talk about what they are doing nutrition and supplement wise to help their kids get through the shots. Please feel free to PM me here. I would be happy to talk by phone about this to anyone experiencing the same things as me. I feel very alone right now, but I know there are more Moms who feel the same way I do.

Thanks!

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

If it were me I would not communicate with the Missionary Medical Department about it. To understand why, I refer you to the discussion that took place last August at LDSliving.com as described below. If it were me, I would communicate directly with the Director of Admissions at the MTC. In most cases it is not the country requiring the vaccinations...see page 4 of this thread. It is the Big-Pharma-trained-medical-department simply following CDC guidelines -- nothing more. See the discussion at LDSliving.com as described immediately below as well, and you will gain some additional extremely valuable insight into the matter.

For a complete and very, very interesting discussion of all of this as it relates to the Church -- that took place recently at LDSliving.com (a subsidiary of Deseret Book, with 80,0000 subscribers, worldwide), view the comment sections of the three articles dated 8-9-11 at the following link:

http://ldsliving.com/search?q=vaccines&x=45&y=4

Thank you for this link. Although the articles were clearly slanted, the comments were very eye opening to me. I can see there is a movement of truth about vaccination sweeping through the country, and through the church. For a long time I felt like we were very alone in our understanding of the "evils and designs" in this regard, and I'm so glad to see that is no longer the case.

That is a very important and astute observation, SisterP. Having been very much involved in the Vaccine Resistance Movement for the past 2 1/2 years, both outside of the Church and within it -- I have been very, very happy with the progress that has been made. I would encourage others, besides SisterP to take the opportunity to review the comments after all three of the articles dated 8-9-11 at LDSliving.com, referenced in the link to which SisterP just referred.

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

...just posted this elsewhere in the forum...posting it here as well. It contains information from page 4 of this thread, but now has been updated to include information on how to exempt out of the yellow fever vaccine. It also contains information from page 6 of this thread on how to exempt out of military vaccinations.

...a couple I know, am friends with, went on a mission a few years ago. The man had straightened out his health, saved his leg and his life by leaving allopathic doctors and going the natural way. He is dead-set against vaccines (as am I). When the church's people said they had to get vaccinated, he said, "Then we're not going on a mission." He wouldn't budge. The church backed down. They had to sign a paper absolving the church of blame if they got sick, iirc. They went. They didn't get sick. Physically this 70+ year old man outran the young elders (literally). They've been home for a couple of years, now.

...very interesting, RandomPh.

...from the thread, Vaccine Infowar In Cardston Country:

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ARE VACCINATIONS REALLY REQUIRED FOR TRAVEL TO FOREIGN LANDS?

While most people are under the false impression that vaccinations are required to travel and stay in foreign lands around the globe, that is not true.

While the global-elite-run CDC recommends a number of vaccinations for travel…that is precisely all it is – a RECOMMENDATION. You will find that in reality, with respect to the actual REQUIREMENT by each respective country itself – the vaccinations listed fall under the RECOMMENDED column…and under the REQUIRED column it says NONE.

The following website gets its information from the CDC and differentiates between recommended and required vaccinations for travel and being a visitor in all the various countries around the world.

http://treehouse.ofb.net/go/en/vaccinations

You will notice that with the vast majority of countries around the world, the vaccinations fall under the RECOMMENDED column…and under the REQUIRED column it says NONE.

The exception to this rule, are a few tropical countries that require the yellow fever vaccination. However, once enough people in the world realize the real truth about vaccines – even that policy in those few countries could be corrected. [Since posting that a couple of years ago, I've come to find out that there is a way to exempt out of the Country's yellow fever vaccine, as well -- in those rare cases where it is an actual requirement of the Country]

A bullet can wound, maim, paralyze…or kill. A biological weapon can do the same. The difference is one is obvious and in plain sight for everyone to see the immediate destruction. The other can be disguised and hidden – the effects are often not immediate – and those longer-term effects can much more easily be blamed on coincidence or other factors.

If someone told you that in order to travel to such-and-such country – one of the requirements was that you must stand in front of a wall – and allow someone to shoot you in the knee-cap with a 22 caliber rifle (certainly not a lethal scenario)…would you subject yourself to that…how about one of your sons or daughters?

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On [this] thread, see page 4 for an in-depth discussion of missionary vaccinations -- your options, and how to deal with concerns regarding them appropriately.

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Thanks, Istand.

...and here's how to exempt out of that one:

Quote from the CDC website regarding Yellow Fever exemptions:

"Travelers must comply with these to enter the country, unless they have been issued a medical waiver."

...from this page:

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/ ... r.htm#1950


The waiver portion of the International Certificate of Vaccination :

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/ ... r.htm#1950


Find an honest MD willing to write something similar to the following. "This person has a family history of auto-immune disorder and should not receive the yellow fever vaccine." They can write that directly on the form and also on a separate letterhead piece of stationary.

(everybody has someone in their family tree who has allergies, and allergies are a form of auto-immune disorder).

That's how you exempt out of the country's yellow fever requirement -- from the country's standpoint.

...related...from page 6 of [this] thread...

Exempting out of Military Vaccinations

...very important info...posting this on three different threads simultaneously...


Towards the end of Part 2 is some important information about how anyone in the military can easily get out of being vaccinated -- if they but know about this particular code that has been written into military law and an accompanying exemption form.

Military insider Joseph: Fema Camp Going up at Fort Hood and The Real Joe Stack Story 1/2 (14:34 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS1I_7WiDfo



Military insider Joseph: Fema Camp Going up at Fort Hood and The Real Joe Stack Story 2/2 (5:30 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7-kSfQhQS0

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[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

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[7cylon7captain of 1,000]

Dr. OZ says no to vaccine for his kids.

[7cylon7captain of 1,000]

Alot of pro vaccine people through out the polio example of why they are good. HOWEVER,

Before the vaccine came out polio was already on the decline by over 50%. The cause of polio was due to pesticides being used on the food. Read this. Also that the polio vaccine accually gave children polio. EVIL and Conspiring MEN. Eat your Vegetables.

1. Before the modern era, polio was a mild disease seldom resulting in paralysis.
2. The largest epidemic occured about 1950 and had significantly declined by 1955 when vaccine was first introduced.
3. Disease can not be 'conquered' without addressing the disease cause.
4. Disease is not caused by a lack of "cow-pus", rotting material or carcinogenic poisons in the bloodstream.
5. Polio causes included:

pre-polio vaccines
nutritional imbalances
environmental poisons most notably pesticides

6. Creation of and introduction of the Salk vaccine was motivated by fear that, without the vaccine, contributions to 'polio research' charities would drop.
Test results on the Salk vaccine were biased by throwing out polio cases 'after the first vaccination'. Test results were also biased by including only data from the '11 most accurate states' while ignoring the data from the other 33 states included in the test. I wonder what the '33 least accurate state' data would have shown?
7. Introduction of the Salk vaccine was beset first with known deaths related to the vaccine and then by a rise in polio cases.
8. Truth of the vaccine's true detriment was withheld from the public. Several states had rises in polio rate following vaccine introduction.
9. In the 3 years following the introduction of the vaccine:

The definition of epidemic was changed from 20 cases to 35 cases [per 100,000]!
The definition of polio was changed from paralisis occuring for 24 hours or more to paralisis occuring for 2 months!
The remaining polio cases were then diagnosed as meningitis!

Thus the factor(s) which caused the 1950 and onward decline was in no way contributed to by vaccine. The vaccine was a cause of disease, not a preventive of disease!

"Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine."

"Official data shows that large scale vaccination has failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases against which they were supposed to provide protection" - Dr. Sabin, developer of Polio vaccine.

"Many here voice a silent view that the Salk and Sabin Polio Vaccines, being made from monkey kidney tissue, has been directly responsible for the major increase in leukaemia in this country." - Dr F. Klenner, M.D.

"Provocation polio. That is the truth about those outbreaks of polio. And I offer a well considered personal opinion that polio is a man made disease." -Viera Scheibner, Ph.D.

"Poliomyelitis trends in Pondicherry, south India, 1989-91" (Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health [London], vol. 51, no. 4, August 1997, pages 443-48): About 54 percent of children lamed as a result of poliomyelitis had received three doses of oral polio vaccine before the onset of paralysis.

[dconrad000captain of 1,000]

...since this is near the top of a new page, I wanted to re-emphasize this, from page 7...

...posted this on another thread, recently. It contains important information about polio and where you may still be able to get a dvd of neuro-specialist and brain surgeon, Russell Blaylock, MD's presentation on how vaccinations cause brain damage.

Since neuro-specialist and brain surgeon Dr Russell Blaylock's presentation has apparently been censored, I'll share from memory a salient point or two from his extremely credible and vaccine-industry-devastating presentation.

1. As is typical with all other contagious diseases in the history of the world, the population developed natural immunity which had nothing-what-so-ever to do with the vaccine. In countries where no polio vaccine was given, the mortality and morbidity rates declined at the same rate or better than in those countries where the vaccination was given. Several other sources document this, besides Dr Blaylock. Go to page 7 of the thread, Vaccine Infowar In Cardston County:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9764&start=180

2. The polio epidemic was greatly accentuated by the DPT vaccine. Dr Blaylock, in his presentation revealed that he had discovered from his research of the data -- that the vast majority of those in the United States, who suffered death or permanent paralysis from contracting the polio virus, had been vaccinated with the DPT shot prior -- which impaired their immune systems and rendered them unable to adequately defend themselves against the polio virus, which for most healthy, non-immuno-compromised people is typically a very mild disease with no residual effects. This is one of the Vaccine Industry's dirty little secrets they want very much to be kept hidden. They count on people continuing to believe the myth -- that vaccinations saved them from the terrible monster, polio -- when in reality vaccinations had actually worsened the polio epidemic, which through the natural course of history died out despite the vaccines, not because of them...just as it did in countries where no polio vaccinations had been given. Of course Big Pharma and their powerful propaganda machine stepped in and claimed that they had saved us. Nothing could be further from the truth. It was actually God's marvelous creation, our bodies -- and the ingenius, incredible immune systems that God placed in our bodies -- that saved us...not Big Pharma's vaccines...and that principle is even further strengthened by diligently living the Spirit of all the verses contained in section 89.

Although the several online versions of that presentation by Russell Blaylock, M.D. appear to no longer be available, if one has an interest, I found one place that might still have some in dvd version for about $20.00, here:

http://www.radioliberty.com/vvabd.html

Having seen the presentation a couple of times in the past year or so, I highly recommend it for viewing if you can possibly get your hands on it.

I have no fear what-so-ever for the coming plagues that shall surely come and for which man's puny arm, including Big Pharma and their vaccines shall not stop. The great promise of the Word of Wisdom and the protective power of the Priesthood are more than good enough for me. That is where I place my trust. If others feel the need to give themselves and family members over to Big Pharma's dangerous and evil, aborted-fetal-cell (many of them) containing witch's brew, vaccines -- that is their prerogative.

Unsurprisingly, thus far, that approach has been a great health blessing to our family. None of our 5 kids have allergies or the many typical health problems that so many of their vaccinated cousins do...and believe me, there is a plague of allergies and other auto-immune disorders and neurological disorders out there, due to vaccinations...due to parents and grandparents giving into the fear and buying the myth that Big Pharma, your government, the World Health Organization, the United Nations, the eugenicist elite, the modern-day-secret-combination and their mouth-piece, the main-stream media wants you to. It should be obvious that each of those I just named, very, very much want you to vaccinate. I advocate doing just the opposite. Vaccinations are a fraud and they certainly are very, very dangerous. Sadly, I know so very, very many that have been vaccine-damaged -- permanently.

Here is the above referenced censored presentation on how vaccines cause brain damage by neuro-specialist and brain surgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D. It is extemely credible testimony from an honest and courageous expert witness. This presentation has repeatedly undergone censorship and removal in the past, so watch it while you still can. This is definitely something that every parent and grandparent should see.

To view it full screen, click this link:

http://youtu.be/fyCJkiHykkk