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...very important info...posting this on three different threads simultaneously...


Towards the end of Part 2 is some important information about how anyone in the military can easily get out of being vaccinated -- if they but know about this particular code that has been written into military law and an accompanying exemption form.

Military insider Joseph: Fema Camp Going up at Fort Hood and The Real Joe Stack Story 1/2 (14:34 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS1I_7WiDfo



Military insider Joseph: Fema Camp Going up at Fort Hood and The Real Joe Stack Story 2/2 (5:30 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7-kSfQhQS0
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Finland Suspends Swine Flu Shots After Vaccine Linked With Neurological Disorder
Cases of narcolepsy in children jumped 300 per cent following H1N1 vaccination campaign



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...since we're near the top of a new page, I would like to re-emphasize this...

dconrad000 wrote:An important, recent study conducted by the US Environmental Protection Agency, which was published in February of 2010 in the Journal, Environmental Science and Technology, demonstrates the use of aborted fetal tissue in vaccines to be a causative factor in the dramatically increased rates of autism that began to occur from that time. An absolutely astounding, fifteen-fold (1,500%) increase in autism rates has occurred...and correlates with the timing of an escalation in the use of aborted fetal tissue as a component in vaccines.



Autism: Study Confirms Increased Rates Correlate with Use of Aborted Fetal Cells In Vaccines


http://www.naturalnews.com/028688_autis ... cells.html

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Conclusive: Global Distribution of Rockefeller-Funded Anti-Fertility Vaccine Coordinated by WHO

Jurriaan Maessen
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August 27, 2010

In addition to the recent PrisonPlanet-exclusive Rockefeller Foundation Developed Vaccines For “Mass-Scale” Fertility Reduction — which outlines the Rockefeller Foundation’s efforts in the 1960s funding research into so-called “anti-fertility vaccines”– another series of documents has surfaced, proving beyond any doubt that the UN Population Fund, World Bank and World Health Organization picked up on it, further developing it under responsibility of a “Task Force on Vaccines for Fertility Regulation”.




WHO and the Rockefeller Foundation have worked together on “anti-fertility” vaccine since the 1960s.

Just four years after the Rockefeller Foundation launched massive funding-operations into anti-fertility vaccines, the Task Force was created under auspices of the World Health Organization, World Bank and UN Population Fund. Its mission, according to one of its members, to support:

“basic and clinical research on the development of birth control vaccines directed against the gametes or the preimplantation embryo. These studies have involved the use of advanced procedures in peptide chemistry, hybridoma technology and molecular genetics as well as the evaluation of a number of novel approaches in general vaccinology. As a result of this international, collaborative effort, a prototype anti-HCG vaccine is now undergoing clinical testing, raising the prospect that a totally new family planning method may be available before the end of the current decade.”

In regards to the scope of the Task Force’s jurisdiction, the Biotechnology and Development Monitor reported:

“The Task Force acts as a global coordinating body for anti-fertility vaccine R&D in the various working groups and supports research on different approaches, such as anti-sperm and anti-ovum vaccines and vaccines designed to neutralize the biological functions of hCG. The Task Force has succeeded in developing a prototype of an anti-hCG-vaccine.”

One of the Task Force members, P.D. Griffin, outlined the purpose and trajectory of these Fertility Regulating Vaccines. Griffin:

“The Task Force has continued to coordinate its research activities with other vaccine development programmes within WHO and with other international and national programmes engaged in the development of fertility regulating vaccines.”

Griffin also admitted to the fact that one of the purposes of the vaccines is the implementation in developing countries. Griffin:

“If vaccines could be developed which could safely and effectively inhibit fertility, without producing unacceptable side effects, they would be an attractive addition to the present armamentarium of fertility regulating methods and would be likely to have a significant impact on family planning programmes.”

Also, one of the advantages of the FRVs over “currently available methods of fertility regulation” the Task Force states, is the following (179):

“low manufacturing cost and ease of delivery within existing health services.”

Already in 1978, the WHO’s Task Force (then called Task Force on Immunological Methods for Fertility Regulation) underlined the usefulness of these vaccines in regards to the possibility of “large scale synthesis and manufacture” of the vaccine:

“The potential advantages of an immunological approach to fertility regulation can be summarized as follows: (a) the possibility of infrequent administration, possibly by paramedical personnel; (b) the use of antigens or antigen fragments, which are not pharmacologically active; and (c) in the case of antigens of known chemical structure, there is the possibility of large-scale synthesis and manufacture of vaccine at relatively low cost.”


In 1976, the WHO Expanded Programme of Research, Development and Research Training in Human Reproduction published a report, stating:
“In 1972 the Organization (…) expanded its programme of research in human reproduction to provide an international focus for an intensified effort to improve existing methods of fertility regulation, to develop new methods and to assist national authorities in devising the best ways of providing them on a continuing basis. The programme is closely integrated with other WHO research on the delivery of family planning care by health services, which in turn feeds into WHO’s technical assistance programme to governments at the service level.”

Although the term “Anti-Fertility Vaccine”, coined by the Rockefeller Foundation, was replaced by the more bureaucratic sounding “Fertility Regulating Vaccine (FRV), the programme was obviously the same. Besides, The time line shows conclusively that the WHO, UN Population Fund and World Bank continued on a path outlined by the Rockefellers in the late 1960s. By extensions, it proves that all these organization are perfectly interlocked, best captured under the header “Scientific Dictatorship”. The relationshipbetween the WHO and the Rockefeller Foundation is intense. In the 1986 bulletin of the World Health Organization, this relationship is being described in some detail. While researching the effectiveness of “gossypol” as an “antifertility agent”, the bulletin states:

“The Rockefeller Foundation has supported limited clinical trials in China and smallscale clinical studies in Brazil and Austria. The dose administered in the current Chinese trial has been reduced from 20 mg to 10-15 mg/day during the loading phase in order to see if severe oligospermia rather than consistent azoospermia would be adequate for an acceptable, non-toxic and reversible effect. Meanwhile, both the WHO human reproduction programme and the Rockefeller Foundation are supporting animal studies to better define the mechanism of action of gossypol.”

In August of 1992, a series of meetings was held in Geneva, Switzerland, regarding “fertility regulating vaccines”. According to the document Fertility Regulating Vaccines (classified by the WHO with a limited distribution) present at those meetings were scientists and clinicians from all over the globe, including then biomedical researcher of the American Agency for International development, and current research-chief of USAID, Mr. Jeff Spieler.

In 1986 Mr. Spieler declared:

“A new approach to fertility regulation is the development of vaccines directed against human substances required for reproduction. Potential candidates for immunological interference include reproductive hormones, ovum and sperm antigens, and antigens derived from embryonic or fetal tissue.(…). An antifertility vaccine must be capable of safely and effectively inhibiting a human substance, which would need somehow to be rendered antigenic. A fertility-regulating vaccine, moreover, would have to produce and sustain effective immunity in at least 95% of the vaccinated population, a level of protection rarely achieved even with the most successful viral and bacterial vaccines. But while these challenges looked insuperable just a few years ago, recent advances in biotechnology- particularly in the fields of molecular biology, genetic engineering and monoclonal antibody production- are bringing antifertility vaccines into the realm of the feasible.”

“Vaccines interfering with sperm function and fertilization could be available for human testing by the early 1990s”, Spieler wrote.

In order for widespread use of these vaccines, Spieler writes, the vaccine must conquer “variations in individual responses to immunization with fertility-regulating vaccines”.

“Research”, he goes on to say,”is also needed in the field of “basic vaccinology”, to find the best carrier proteins, adjuvants, vehicles and delivery systems.”

In the 1992 document, the problem of “variations in individual responses” is also discussed:

“Because of the genetic diversity of human populations”, states the document, “immune responses to vaccines often show marked differences from one individual to another in terms of magnitude and duration. These differences may be partly or even completely overcome with appropriately engineered FRVs (Fertility Regulating Vaccines) and by improvements in our understanding of what is required to develop and control the immune response elicited by different vaccines.”

The picture emerging from these facts is clear. The WHO, as a global coordinating body, has since the early 70s continued the development of the Rockefeller-funded “anti-fertility vaccine”. What also is becoming clear, is that extensive research has been done to the delivery systems in which these anti-fertility components can be buried, such as regular anti-viral vaccines. It’s a mass-scale anti-fertilization programme with the aim of reducing the world’s population: a dream long cherished by the global elite.


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Vaccine Deaths And Injuries Skyrocket As Cover-Up Implodes
Global revolt against deadly vaccines spreads as cases of debilitating illnesses, soft-kill side-effects and even instant deaths become widespread


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Guest Appearance on the Stanley Monteith, M.D. Show

A listener of the Stanley Monteith, M.D. nationally syndicated radio show sent Dr Monteith a link to an interview that was done of me in September of 2009, on the subject of vaccinations and eugenics. After viewing the interview, Dr Monteith contacted me and invited me to be a guest on his September 8th, 2010 program. We had a very important and lively discussion regarding the fraud and dangers of vaccines...and a plan of what we can actually do about it. He is a very well respected authority on this and other related subjects. You can see a biography of some of Dr Stanley Monteith's life and works below.

Here is the link to the audio file [That link is no longer operational. Here is an updated link. It has recently been uploaded to youtube DC 12-25-15]:

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Bio of Dr Stanley Monteith

Dr. Stanley Monteith graduated from the University of California Medical School in 1952, entered a four year residency program in Orthopedic surgery, and opened his medical practice in 1960. Two years later, he began studying the political and economic forces that control the world. He has traveled to other countries, interviewed national and international leaders, and lectured on several continents.

He has spent over 47 years researching the movement by the global elite to remove our national sovereignty and enslave the planet. He has written two books, including the highly recommended "Brotherhood of Darkness", which reveals the forces that rule the world and why many of our leaders are destroying our nation. Dr. Monteith currently does 5 hours of talk radio a day on three radio networks. For info, visit http://www.radioliberty.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Dr Stanley Monteith is one of the foremost and respected experts in the world -- of the secret workings of the elite men that wish to rule over us -- and the world.

The following two presentations of Dr Stan Monteith are highly recommended viewing -- to grasp the larger picture of what is going on in the world today...and why you and your family really are targeted by these evil men -- for harm -- for the furtherance of their own evil purposes.


Brotherhood of Darkness

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 6923817439#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


...also important...


None Dare Call It Genocide

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9429&hl=en#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Please take note: The first link in the post immediately above had become corrupted and was no longer working. I just corrected that.
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...very interesting article on this topic that has been surfacing...by Mike Adams, the "Health Ranger"...

Bill Gates says vaccines can help reduce world population

Mike Adams | Bill Gates’ statement implies that vaccines are a method of population reduction.


http://www.infowars.com/bill-gates-says ... opulation/

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dconrad000 wrote:...very interesting article on this topic that has been surfacing...by Mike Adams, the "Health Ranger"...

Bill Gates says vaccines can help reduce world population

Mike Adams | Bill Gates’ statement implies that vaccines are a method of population reduction.


http://www.infowars.com/bill-gates-says ... opulation/

...related article...also very interesting. This one involves Ted Turner. Attached to the article is a video clip of Ted Turner explaining that we need to depopulate the world to save it from "man-made-global-warming"...yet he, like Bill Gates...fund vaccinations for the masses. Globa Elitists such as they -- care so much about your health, well being...and longevity...very touching, indeed. At least the people of the Ukrain have enough experience and wisdom to see throught the genocidal agendas of the men who pull the strings in ruling the world.


Ukrainian People Say No to Globalist Vaccines


http://www.infowars.com/ukrainian-peopl ... -vaccines/

...“Hundreds of thousands of fearful Ukrainians have refused vaccines for diseases such as diphtheria, mumps, polio, hepatitis B, tuberculosis, whooping cough and others this year, according to official estimates. Authorities have canceled a U.N.-backed measles and rubella vaccination campaign funded by U.S. philanthropist Ted Turner, and will have to collect and incinerate nearly 9 million unused doses in coming months.”

AP then tries to hint that Ukrainian media was irresponsibly misleading people:

“Ukrainian media outlets are numerous and uncensored but do not widely follow Western standards of fairness and accuracy. Some print and online reports alleged after the boy’s death that the Indian-made measles and rubella vaccine would sterilize men as part of a plot by Ted Turner, whose Washington-based United Nations Foundation charity paid for the vaccines.”

Apparently AP’s concept of Western standards of fairness and accuracy is hiding the global elites’ Malthusian mantra of “we’re too many people” or the century long, eugenic campaign of sterilizing, infecting, and outright killing the masses.

Ted Turner says there’s too many people, now he wants you to take his “vaccines.”

Associated Press doesn’t miss a beat between their feigned puzzlement over the Ukrainians’ refusal to roll up their sleeves for Ted Turner’s vaccines, and reporting the US Government’s admission of purposefully infecting hundreds of Guatemalans during secret experiments in the 1940′s. In this second report, AP also reminds us of the Tuskegee Experiment where hundreds of black Americans were secretly experimented on and lied to about their true condition and denied real treatment.

What AP claims international health officials call “unwarranted and dangerous” fears, seem quite warranted and only dangerous to the globalists’ agenda when put into a proper, historical context...

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Twins Die Minutes after Measles Vaccination
Nine-month-old twins in Ghaziabad, India reportedly died within minutes of receiving a measles vaccine.


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Educated families increasingly refusing vaccinations
Educated Americans with private insurance plans are becoming increasingly less prone to vaccinate their children.


http://www.infowars.com/educated-famili ... cinations/

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I have a question. My son is about to enter the Mission Training Center in Provo. But he got a letter from the Church
telling him to have a influenza vaccination before he enters the M.T.C. I'm worried because I believe they are dangerous. Another thing that worries me is him having to be scanned or felt up to board an Airplane to go to the country of Colombia. Any advice for a worried father?

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GeeR wrote:I have a question. My son is about to enter the Mission Training Center in Provo. But he got a letter from the Church
telling him to have a influenza vaccination before he enters the M.T.C. I'm worried because I believe they are dangerous. Another thing that worries me is him having to be scanned or felt up to board an Airplane to go to the country of Colombia. Any advice for a worried father?
Suck it up! He's on the Lord's errand and in the Lord's hands....and thus needs to do what is needed to fulfill his mission.....and may his sacrifice (and yours) be consecrated to the Lord!

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GeeR wrote:I have a question. My son is about to enter the Mission Training Center in Provo. But he got a letter from the Church
telling him to have a influenza vaccination before he enters the M.T.C. I'm worried because I believe they are dangerous. Another thing that worries me is him having to be scanned or felt up to board an Airplane to go to the country of Colombia. Any advice for a worried father?

GeeR, please go back to page 4 of this thread for a complete and in-depth discussion of that precise issue and what you and your son can do about it. The discussion begins a few posts down from the top of the page. (I'll pm you with this, as well -- to make sure you get this quickly.)

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...good place to re-insert this. Thank you, Moonwhim.
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Conclusive: Global Distribution of Rockefeller-Funded Anti-Fertility Vaccine Coordinated by WHO
...The picture emerging from these facts is clear. The WHO, as a global coordinating body, has since the early 70s continued the development of the Rockefeller-funded “anti-fertility vaccine”. What also is becoming clear, is that extensive research has been done to the delivery systems in which these anti-fertility components can be buried, such as regular anti-viral vaccines. It’s a mass-scale anti-fertilization programme with the aim of reducing the world’s population: a dream long cherished by the global elite.
http://www.infowars.com/conclusive-glob ... ted-by-who

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Thanks for responding dconrad000 and Mummy. Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you but I haven't had access to a computer. Dconrad000 I liked your Emma principle, I talked to my bishop and asked him about the issue. He openly admitted to not knowing the answer but recommended that I call the M.T.C. and express my concern. I did just that and the first person I talked with went and got a supervisor and the supervisor told me the letter sent out to prepare missionaries was to only prepare them not to dictate what they should do. She said that bullet about getting a flu shot “is only a recommendation” and that if my son doesn’t what to get vaccinated either before entering the M.T.C. or while in the M.T.C. that is his prerogative. Wow, what a relief!

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GeeR wrote:Thanks for responding dconrad000 and Mummy. Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you but I haven't had access to a computer. Dconrad000 I liked your Emma principle, I talked to my bishop and asked him about the issue. He openly admitted to not knowing the answer but recommended that I call the M.T.C. and express my concern. I did just that and the first person I talked with went and got a supervisor and the supervisor told me the letter sent out to prepare missionaries was to only prepare them not to dictate what they should do. She said that bullet about getting a flu shot “is only a recommendation” and that if my son doesn’t what to get vaccinated either before entering the M.T.C. or while in the M.T.C. that is his prerogative. Wow, what a relief!
Hat's off to you for chasing it down and getting the straight scoop. The vast majority just go down and get the shots and never think another thing about it!

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GeeR wrote:Thanks for responding dconrad000 and Mummy. Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you but I haven't had access to a computer. Dconrad000 I liked your Emma principle, I talked to my bishop and asked him about the issue. He openly admitted to not knowing the answer but recommended that I call the M.T.C. and express my concern. I did just that and the first person I talked with went and got a supervisor and the supervisor told me the letter sent out to prepare missionaries was to only prepare them not to dictate what they should do. She said that bullet about getting a flu shot “is only a recommendation” and that if my son doesn’t what to get vaccinated either before entering the M.T.C. or while in the M.T.C. that is his prerogative. Wow, what a relief!

Thank you GeeR for letting us know what happened with respect to your concern. I believe that as more people will pay attention to those uneasy feelings, such as you had, with respect to this issue...and then express those concerns appropriately -- as you did -- that positive occurrences will result.

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...additional exposure on Gardasil continues...

Gardasil Exposed: Deadly vaccine pushed on millions of young boys and girls worldwide
As of June 2009, 15 million girls have been injected with the Gardasil vaccine.



http://www.infowars.com/gardasil-expose ... worldwide/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;




...Dr. Diane Harper was the lead researcher during the creation of both Gardasil and a similar vaccine, Cervarix. Leading the research team gave Dr. Harper an inside look at the effects of Gardasil, which she has been exposing for over a year. Dr. Harper said that Gardasil would do very little to fight cervical cancer, and at the very least it should not be recommended to children younger than 15.

Unfortunately, the CDC did not agree, boasting about the anti-cancer effects of Gardasil and even going as far as to recommend it to girls as young as 9. Dr. Harper says that 70% of all HPV infections resolve themselves within a year, and within 2 years the percentage climbs to 90%. During an address at the 4th International Public Conference on Vaccination, Dr. Harper explained the risks associated with Gardasil. Instead of promoting the vaccine, which was expected of her, she told the truth. The audience was dazzled...


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This not about vaccines really, but I found it very interesting. I got it from one of Mummy's posts. It is amazing the concern we have for mercury in this situation, yet so many are willing to inject the stuff into their children. I am amazed by this really!
The incandescent light bulb has illuminated American homes for decades, dominating the market since Thomas Edison’s patent 131 years ago. But beginning next year, an array of energy-efficient bulbs is set to replace it.

What to do if a fluorescent bulb breaks

1) Remove people and pets from the area.

2) Open windows and ventilate the area affected.

3) Shut-off circulating air/heat systems.

4) Scoop-up glass and debris with stiff cardboard and place debris in a sealed container.

5) Use sticky tape to gather remaining glass and powder.

6) Do not use a broom, as it will break the mercury into smaller droplets and disperse them.

7) Do not use a vacuum cleaner, as it will disperse mercury vapors into the air. If vacuum cleaner is used remove bag, seal and throw away, after checking local regulations concerning proper disposal of mercury.

7) Wash your hands and wipe the area where breakage occurred with a paper towel.
-- Source: The Environmental Protection Agency

The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 requires that light bulbs be at least 25 percent more efficient beginning in 2012. Replacing the incandescent bulb is a line of compact fluorescent lights (CFLs), halogen bulbs and light-emitting diodes, also known as LEDs.

Still, critics such as Rep. Joe Barton of Texas argue that the fluorescents, while more efficient, present at least two pressing problems. The bulbs tend to be more expensive up front, he said, and contain mercury, a chemical linked to developmental problems in children exposed to even small amounts should a bulb shatter.
Mercury is what makes fluorescent bulbs — both the old-fashioned tubes and new compact designs — work.

Barton has introduced federal legislation that would repeal portions of the Energy Independence and Security Act. It would prevent the de facto ban of the incandescent light bulb. Most CFLs are produced in China, he said in a statement on his website.

“Not only would this bill be better for the environment, but it would be one step to bringing jobs back to America,” he said.

The EPA has strict guidelines for cleaning up shattered fluorescents, including not using a vacuum cleaner, shutting off central air, throwing away any fabric that comes into contact with mercury and ventilating the area affected immediately.

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It’s All Just Coincidental

On the 20th of January 2010, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said there have been 36 confirmed reports of seizures this flu season in children ages 6 months through 2 years in the United States. The seizures occurred within one day after they were vaccinated with Fluzone, the only flu shot recommended in America for infants and very young children. Ten of the children were hospitalized. The vaccine’s manufacturer, Sanofi Pasteur, issued a statement emphasizing that no clear link has been established between the flu shot and the seizures and that the cases may be coincidental.

Only vaccine manufacturers have the gall to say something like that but they get away with it. We have been had on a grand scale by the pharmaceutical industry just as we have been had by medical officials around the globe who treat the rest of us like idiots every time they even open up their mouths about anything to do with vaccines.

Way back at the end of July of 2010 Mike Adams was shouting, “Vaccine pushers have always sworn their vaccines caused no seizures whatsoever. No neurological problems. No spontaneous abortions in pregnant women. No increased rates of autism. Vaccines are all perfectly safe, they say, and no children are ever harmed by them. That’s the mythology, at least, behind vaccines. But the reality is far different: Vaccines do cause seizures in children, and this year’s vaccines look like they’re going to cause a significantly higher rate of seizures than usual.”

And now we read in the papers that Adams was correct. Children have been hurt and it’s out in the papers for everyone to see. Governmental medical and health officials, the American Academy of Pediatricians, and doctors around the country only had to listen but this is too much for their minds to handle. They would rather inject than listen and that makes them awful doctors. They prove to be Neanderthals when it comes to listening to anything other than the propaganda and false hype that surrounds the world of childhood immunization. It does not take much intelligence to follow the herd in lockstep believing only what we are supposed to believe. We don’t expect religious leaders to listen to anything but their own religious doctrine and we shouldn’t expect anything better from orthodox baby doctors either. They are that dogmatic. They are that closed, blind and arrogant.

Most of us are too numb to feel much about these kids and their families and the hordes of autism and other developmentally-impaired children. We are too numb to feel for the homeless and the people we pass on the streets who have lost everything. We are also too numb about the constant wars and the absolutely retarded reasons for them. So we become so weak that most of us cannot even protect our children from medical terrorists who feel like all terrorists do—their cause is right; their reasoning is sound. So they stock their cabinets with chemically dangerous vaccines and charge right into herds of kids no matter what is reported, even in the mainstream press.

We have become cruel in our coldness and indifference. Life has conspired against us leaving us feeling helpless and defenseless. Some though fight with words and scream against the terrorism of the system and the people that run it. We point our fingers, but are we willing to fundamentally change ourselves? That’s really tough, as everyone knows —it has been said that it is easier to conquer the world than oneself. Certainly mainstream pediatricians find it easier to scare parents and attack babies than it is for them to listen to other doctors, medical researchers, chemists and even parents who are crying for the madness to stop.

It really is hard to buck the system so most people still allow their children to be vaccinated and then they cry later kicking themselves for allowing their children to be hurt. Heartless and spineless pediatricians continue their onslaught and drive home in their Mercedes. It really is no contest who is worse—the thieves on Wall Street who are destroying life as we know it or the pediatricians in their white coats who attack children with their arrogance. People are rallying against the banksters, but who is rallying directly against the field of pediatrics?

I saw a movie tonight that was the strangest I have ever seen. The main character lived a totally psychotic lie rather than facing his reality. Even with the help of psychiatrists who were really trying to help him, and even when he did see what he had done, he chose the lie even if it meant having a frontal lobotomy.

Orthodox card-carrying American Pediatric Association physicians are much the same. They refuse to look, they refuse to pay attention, they refuse to understand the hurt, damage and misery they are creating as they continue to attack children with their sometimes-deadly vaccines.

It takes extraordinary courage today to have children and to protect them from the harm that is intentionally directed at them. It takes courage to even read this book because one has to bear the pain of what is happening and what is being done to the children. One cannot talk about Humane Pediatrics without learning and studying inhumane pediatrics. It is really a very bad mirror on our humanity that we have allowed the worst kind of arrogance to take over the field of pediatrics and let them roam free amongst our children. Catholics have learned the hard way, having allowed way too many children to be sexually abused by celibate sexually-repressed priests. And the rest of us have allowed an exponentially greater number of children to be chemically abused by the “priests” we find everywhere in the field of pediatrics.

Today is a sad day for parents because under the care of modern pediatrics, children have never been sicker emotionally, mentally and physically. Is there a humane pediatrician in the house?
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Mummy, I worked for pediatricians for nine years and I had given many immunizations in that time. That was before I knew about the harm they can cause. In defense of the physicians I worked for, they are very kind and the lowest paid and hardest working of almost all doctors. They really do care about their patients. But they get their info from the guidelines handed down from the national Ped. Assoc. And that is followed closely by the "detail" guys (drug reps.) (I am encouraging my children not to give their kids immunizations.)

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It is all about the money:
Make anti-vaccine parents pay higher premiums

Walnut Creek, California (CNN) -- Evidence disputing any link between autism and vaccines has been gathering for a decade. The anti-vaccine movement's lynchpin, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, has been shown to be nothing more than a grifter in a lab coat, with the prestigious British Medical Journal calling his work "an elaborate fraud."

Two new books, "Deadly Choices" by Paul Offit and "The Panic Virus" by Seth Mnookin, detail the sordid story of the anti-vaccine movement.

Given that, it's hard for me to believe that some parents still refuse to vaccinate their children. But they do, frightened by the rants and raves of anti-vaccine fundamentalists such as Jenny McCarthy, who can effortlessly get on "Oprah" or any other TV talk show to advance what is nothing short of a myth.

It's that fiction and the fear it incites that has challenged and frustrated pediatricians like me for 10 years. I don't foresee any quick shift in the trend among affluent, highly educated older parents against childhood vaccines. As Offit often points out, it's much harder to unscare people once they've been scared. McCarthy has it easy. We doctors have to do the hard part.

Refusing to vaccinate a child is dangerous not just for that child but for entire communities. It's precisely this point a colleague of mine was considering when he had the idea that parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids should pay substantially higher health insurance premiums.

It makes sense. Insurance, after all, is just a pool of money into which we all pay. In determining how much we or our employers pay, risk is taken into account.

The perfect analogy is smoking. If you smoke -- and want to turn your lungs black and spend a greater portion of that pot of money on your possible chronic lung disease or any cancers you'll get -- then you may have to pay more.

Why shouldn't we impose the same logic on parents who refuse to vaccinate their children?

The link between smoking and lung cancer is as clear as that between refusing vaccines and increasing the risk of infectious disease. And the one between secondhand smoke and a litany of health problems pales in comparison to the link between going unvaccinated and spreading "secondhand disease."

Researchers looking at the 2008 measles outbreak in San Diego, California, showed just how expensive and serious an outbreak of a disease that could have been prevented with a vaccine can be. A child whose parents refused to vaccinate him traveled to Europe and brought home the measles.

That family exposed 839 people, resulting in 11 additional cases of measles. One child too young to be vaccinated had to be hospitalized.

Forty-eight children too young to be vaccinated had to be quarantined, at an average family cost of $775 per child. The total cost of the outbreak was $124,517, about $11,000 per case and substantially more for the hospitalized child. That was just in the money the county and state spent to clean the mess up, and doesn't take into the account the costs to private insurers.

Nothing in this argument should supersede that doctors need to slow down and talk carefully with parents who are worried about vaccines. And none of it should distract from the fact that parents of children with autism deserve answers.

But if the Wakefield-McCarthy tribe had anything to say about this, they may agree. After all, their latest slogan is "vaccine choice."

In reflecting on what happened, the mother of the San Diego child told Time magazine that "we analyze the diseases and we analyze the risks of the disease, and that's how my husband and I made our decision about which vaccines to give our children."

Fair enough. If they want to make a risky choice, let's have this mother and others like her pay more for it.

As an aside, perhaps we could make doctors complicit in that choice pay higher malpractice premiums as well. Perhaps then, the combination of proof, medical crimes, stories like what happened in San Diego and a little moral hazard for patients and doctors will help move the needle toward common sense and preventive medicine.

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reese wrote:This not about vaccines really, but I found it very interesting. I got it from one of Mummy's posts. It is amazing the concern we have for mercury in this situation, yet so many are willing to inject the stuff into their children. I am amazed by this really!...
I appreciate you posting that, Reese. Of course the public outcry about mercury in vaccines forced its removal from many of the so-called childhood vaccines (except for the third-world-children)...but as evidenced in this thread there are a great number of other serious dangers -- whether or not the preservative thimerosal appears on the ingredients list.

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