Things are pretty bad, there's no question. If they are bad enough, I don't know.Gage wrote: ↑May 8th, 2017, 10:29 am The scriptures tell us how evil the generation will be in the last days and clearly we are headed in that direction if not there but I wonder if we havent seen the half of it yet. A man can marry a man and there is plenty of adultery, sex and persecution going around but is it just a fraction of what is to come? I wonder how much worse it needs to get for the Lord to say thats enough or has he already had this thought. I know many things must happen before the Lord comes but I wonder if this generation is close to the evil that was said it would be.
Mosiah shared this inspiration when warning the people of the dangers of having a king and proposing a system of judges; He said it's not common for the 'voice of the people' to choose that which is not right, but it is usually the case that the smaller minorities of society will choose wickedness. So it depends on how widespread and accepted wickedness is among society.
'And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction even as he has hitherto visited this land." Mosial 29:27
So, as far as the Americas, the standard for when the judgments of God come upon us is when the voice of the people choose iniquity. I guess it depends on whether the people are really as wicked as they seem, as a whole, or if the righteous are still more numerous.