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Simplified timeline of the half hour of silence....

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Darn, had expected to insert the image into the post but it's too large.... well, you can see it here...

http://thebridegroomcometh.net/timeline/
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Thanks for this! I've always enjoyed your insight!

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friendsofthe wrote: April 20th, 2017, 2:22 pm Darn, had expected to insert the image into the post but it's too large.... well, you can see it here...

http://thebridegroomcometh.net/timeline/
Very interesting indeed!

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Are you saying the tribulations only come after the New Jerusalem is established. There is no doctrinal evidence for that. The sifting of the wheat and tares is the tribulation....
The purpose of the tribulation is it get a body of righteous saints to build the New Jerusalem!!!. @-) @-) @-)

The half hour is only right at the end of the tribulations.

88 And after your testimony cometh wrath and indignation upon the people.
89 For after your testimony cometh the testimony of earthquakes, that shall cause groanings in the midst of her, and men shall fall upon the ground and shall not be able to stand.
90 And also cometh the testimony of the voice of thunderings, and the voice of lightnings, and the voice of tempests, and the voice of the waves of the sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds.
91 And all things shall be in commotion; and surely, men’s hearts shall fail them; for fear shall come upon all people.
92 And angels shall fly through the midst of heaven, crying with a loud voice, sounding the trump of God, saying: Prepare ye, prepare ye, O inhabitants of the earth; for the judgment of our God is come. Behold, and lo, the Bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
93 And immediately there shall appear a great sign in heaven, and all people shall see it together.
94 And another angel shall sound his trump, saying: That great church, the mother of abominations, that made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, that persecuteth the saints of God, that shed their blood—she who sitteth upon many waters, and upon the islands of the sea—behold, she is the tares of the earth; she is bound in bundles; her bands are made strong, no man can loose them; therefore, she is ready to be burned. And he shall sound his trump both long and loud, and all nations shall hear it.
95 And there shall be silence in heaven for the space of half an hour; and immediately after shall the curtain of heaven be unfolded, as a scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up, and the face of the Lord shall be unveiled;
96 And the saints that are upon the earth, who are alive, shall be quickened and be caught up to meet him.

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The tribulation starts in the 6th seal, the same seal where the 144k are called, after the lost tribes with their scriptures have returned. The half hour silence is for the 144k to do the final preaching and gathering. The 7th seal is the final destruction of all things.

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Spaced_out wrote:
Are you saying the tribulations only come after the New Jerusalem is established. There is no doctrinal evidence for that. The sifting of the wheat and tares is the tribulation....
No, I’m not saying that, there will surly be great tribulations prior to the Lord’s coming as the Bridegroom as well. But what I am saying is that after Christ comes to the Saints at the opening of the seventh seal there will be a period of great tribulation as noted in Rev. chapters 8 through 11 or until Christ appears to the Jews. These tribulations are announced by 7 angels blowing their trumpets, the last three are considered “woes”.

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friendsofthe wrote: April 20th, 2017, 2:22 pm Darn, had expected to insert the image into the post but it's too large.... well, you can see it here...

http://thebridegroomcometh.net/timeline/
What is your take on seven years of plenty preceding seven years of tribulation?

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BeNotDeceived wrote: April 21st, 2017, 1:14 am
friendsofthe wrote: April 20th, 2017, 2:22 pm Darn, had expected to insert the image into the post but it's too large.... well, you can see it here...

http://thebridegroomcometh.net/timeline/
What is your take on seven years of plenty preceding seven years of tribulation?
The stock market has been going up 7 years since the last great financial crash, we are now 2017 going into the 7 years of extreme poverty. There will be no more years of plenty the debt cycle has hit it's apex, and all downhill from here.

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Spaced_Out wrote: April 21st, 2017, 1:18 am
BeNotDeceived wrote: April 21st, 2017, 1:14 am
friendsofthe wrote: April 20th, 2017, 2:22 pm Darn, had expected to insert the image into the post but it's too large.... well, you can see it here...

http://thebridegroomcometh.net/timeline/
What is your take on seven years of plenty preceding seven years of tribulation?
The stock market has been going up 7 years since the last great financial crash, we are now 2017 going into the 7 years of extreme poverty. There will be no more years of plenty the debt cycle has hit it's apex, and all downhill from here.
It can't go up any higher other wise the crash will be even bigger. I think the seven years of plenty is pretty much over now. Everything seems to be on a decline worldwide, not just on the promised land.

I can't see the church at any point in the next few years saying, "Let's go to Missouri!". With Kansas City expanding and the Kansas City Temple now there, what are even the implications of an excursion of saints coming into the area?

Sister Nelson brought this idea up in a recent talk about Christ appearing there. I don't think there will be many church members there at that council plus most the church won't even know it happened.

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Sunain wrote: April 21st, 2017, 5:37 am
It can't go up any higher other wise the crash will be even bigger. I think the seven years of plenty is pretty much over now. Everything seems to be on a decline worldwide, not just on the promised land.

I can't see the church at any point in the next few years saying, "Let's go to Missouri!". With Kansas City expanding and the Kansas City Temple now there, what are even the implications of an excursion of saints coming into the area?
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The markets can go up on rumours or Trump hopeium but all the fundamentals are showing weakness. Since 2007 the economic recovery has been purely debt based and things are coming to an end.

Prior to moving to Missouri many things have to happen including withdraw of missionaries, EQ, wars etc.. Putting all the pieces together, I can all but guarantee you that a major earthquake on the Madrid fault will open up all the way from the great lakes roughly along the Mississippi river to the gulf of mexico. The entire area will be wiped clean and be available for colonising. All the prophecies of the saints walking back to Missouri will come to pass as road and rail traffic will be impossible. One will be able to sail up the fault zone to Zion!!

Doctrine and Covenants 61:16
16 And it shall be said in days to come that none is able to go up to the land of Zion upon the waters, but he that is upright in heart.

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BeNotDeceived wrote:
What is your take on seven years of plenty preceding seven years of tribulation?
I think pretty much everything being written on this subject stems from interpretations of what President Hinckley said in a conference talk. Was he teaching the principal of preparing while we can or was he speaking prophetically? Interpreting his words prophetically may be stretching what he meant to say.

Assuming that something that happened in the Old Testament is evidence enough that it will be fulfilled again is a stretch that I would not make. I wouldn’t spend much time on this one, that’s for sure… 

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Spaced_Out wrote: April 21st, 2017, 1:18 am
BeNotDeceived wrote: April 21st, 2017, 1:14 am
friendsofthe wrote: April 20th, 2017, 2:22 pm Darn, had expected to insert the image into the post but it's too large.... well, you can see it here...

http://thebridegroomcometh.net/timeline/
What is your take on seven years of plenty preceding seven years of tribulation?
The stock market has been going up 7 years since the last great financial crash, we are now 2017 going into the 7 years of extreme poverty. There will be no more years of plenty the debt cycle has hit it's apex, and all downhill from here.
Except

The financial crisis of 2007–2008, also known as the global financial crisis and the 2008 financial crisis, is considered by many economists to have been the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s. ... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financi ... _2007–2008

Was like 9+ years ago. :-)

No worries; the Ted Spread was cool to learn about. :ymparty:

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Good thing though as 2008 was too soon IAW 2cents/daze = 2000yrs. :ymhug:

Despite bad behavior will God grant us another grace period; how does our situation compare with previous incarnations of 7 years feast/famine?

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BeNotDeceived wrote: April 21st, 2017, 1:57 pm
Except

The financial crisis of 2007–2008, also known as the global financial crisis and the 2008 financial crisis, is considered by many economists to have been the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s. ... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financi ... _2007–2008

Was like 9+ years ago. :-)
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/09/7-year-b ... glory.html

The 7th year for the bull market occurred on 9th March 2016, The economy started see sawing badly last year and recovered by Trump promises in Nov 2016, markets are back to pre-Trump win, and with fundamentals going south the years of destruction are upon us.
Commercial Bankruptcy Filings Increase 26 Percent in the 2016 Calendar Year in the US.

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The news headlines are now lining up with the many prophesies that have been discussed on this forum.
Risk of 'catastrophic' nuclear accident as world relations worsen, UN warns
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 94391.html


The Simple Reason Why A Second American Civil War May Be Inevitable
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-2 ... inevitable

It’s because Americans have been self-sorting themselves along geographic and political lines for a long time. A book titled “The Big Sort” made light of this trend back in 2008.

Basically what’s going on, is that Americans are moving to communities that align more with their politics. Liberals are moving to liberal areas, and conservatives are moving to conservative communities. It’s been going on for decades. When Jimmy Carter was elected in 1976, 26.8% of Americans lived in landslide counties; that is counties where the president won or lost by 20% of the vote.

By 2004, 48.3% of the population lived in these counties. This trend continues to worsen. As Americans move to their preferred geographic bubbles, they face less exposure to opposing viewpoints, and their own opinions become more extreme. This trend is at the heart of why politics have become so polarizing in America.

We’re also seeing the same trend emerge online with social media. Despite the fact that the internet allows us to be exposed to more opinions that ever before, people choose to follow online voices that they already agree with. They’re slipping into digital bubbles that are comparable to their geographic bubbles.

This trend is irreversible as far as I can tell. That’s because it’s tied to innovation. As our country became more interconnected with roads and Americans gained more mobility, we chose to move to like-minded places. We’re given the internet, the greatest source of information in human history, and we use it to seek out only the information that reinforces our current beliefs.

We’re self-sorting at every level. Because of this, Americans are only going to grow more extreme in their beliefs, and see people on the other side of the political spectrum as more alien.

You can see how this is creating the perfect breeding ground for a real, physical war. The polarization makes it easier to dehumanize the other side. The self-sorting creates definable geographic boundaries that are necessary for a war. It spawns two sides with beliefs that are so divergent, that they cannot coexist.

We’re becoming two distinct nations with two competing visions for what the country should be. Two visions that are diametrically opposed. We used to be a nation of many nations that was held together, because there was still some common ground on what it means to be an American above all else. Now we can’t even agree on that.

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