The only condemnation I know of is that the Saints aren't reading the Book of Mormon. I've read it 21 times cover to cover. After all, aren't we told to feast upon the word? It's in the book!jwharton wrote:1%? Only a guess.freedomforall wrote:Let's put this into perspective. On one hand, your doctrine is full of differences and is not present day doctrine. So let's put you in the 1% category due to some people, a few, listening to and adopting your doctrine. On the other hand, we have another much higher percentage having a different set of beliefs learned from present day prophets and other church GA's, and scripture itself.jwharton wrote:Know this, I am a Pro-LDS Saint whose eye is single to the Father's glory and the Father's Celestial Kingdom.
A group? Didn't say that.
Try nobody but me and a few family members, unless someone here believes them and isn't saying so.
I have not shared these discoveries with hardly anyone and many react pretty much the way you are.
In fact, I have several family members who think I've gone off the rails, even some very close and dear family members.
I have had these discoveries for several years and I'm doing my best to prove them out.
I decided perhaps it is time for them to have some public scrutiny.
But, I'm starting to wonder if perhaps I should withdraw them.
And, not because I doubt their veracity.
I'm being convinced more of their veracity based upon people's un-Christlike reactions.
But, this isn't what I want them proven out by.
Just because people are rude and contentious towards them doesn't mean they are true.
But, it does weaken the prospects, if they aren't true, that anybody here has the light to prove otherwise.
So far is all I get is the same old pablum of 'just follow the brethren because they will never lead us astray'.
Also, I think it bears consideration...
The majority you think I should conform to is, as of the last I checked, still considered to be under condemnation by the Lord.
D&C 84:54-57
54 And your minds in times past have been darkened because of unbelief, and because you have treated lightly the things you have received—
55 Which vanity and unbelief have brought the whole church under condemnation.
56 And this condemnation resteth upon the children of Zion, even all.
57 And they shall remain under this condemnation until they repent and remember the new covenant, even the Book of Mormon and the former commandments which I have given them, not only to say, but to do according to that which I have written—
So this condemnation is collectively, not individually.