Is this what Brain told you?jwharton wrote:Just keep in mind, truth isn't established by the results of a ballot box.freedomforall wrote:It's not my victory or anyone elses, I merely hope you learned something of substance, from the forum owner and will do as he says, and that is to back off.jwharton wrote:I had a very pleasant and respectful conversation with the Forum owner.freedomforall wrote: How Christ-like of you.
Thank you for proving my point. It is well noted here, due to my compilation of explicit information that is impossible to refute, only lied about.
Any further gospel discussion needs to go through Brian as you have stated. A different forum is what you need to preach your doctrine without receiving so much resistance. Don't say I didn't tell you so, given Brian's rules. And it is YOU that disrespected them too.
You can take your dialog elsewhere, please.
I respect him and I sense he also respects me.
We talked like two mature adults and understood one another.
We reached clarity as to the best course of action where my efforts here are concerned.
You are free to assume what you wish as to the nature of our conversation.
But, the contents of such are and shall remain private.
In essence, we agreed my efforts here are too disruptive and that I should pull way back.
I reached this agreement because I have grown way too weary and exasperated to persist.
You are welcome to consider this a victory if that is your inclination to do such.
Look! I fear that any further dialog no matter the topic will have a portion of infiltrated doctrine ingrained in your blood. Your beliefs are so ingrained you can't help yourself, resulting in more bashing. Is it really worth it all?
Many here conclude you are not here to learn, but to preach, and. yes, to condemn, and your doctrine does not have any room for change, from what we read in your posts. Us being told that what we present has no substance, does not reveal clarity or has any ability to refute just doesn't fit into a respectful dialog. These have been your hooks to having us keep our mouth shut and just here you out...and for what, To serve whom? In fact, you don't even answer questions without turning around and asking more question in order to skirt around answering questions. Come on, the pattern is as evident as air. And from what I detect, you are too proud to apologize for mistakes or unfounded wrongs. This is always a red flag. Ye may know them by their fruits.
And I fully agree with A12's assertions. So I am not the sole person to see errors in your doctrine. There are also others that are not as vocal about it, nonetheless, they don't like it either. This is fact for you to consider.
I'll stand completely alone, and have done so, whenever necessary.
If you or anyone has sincere questions I have neglected to answer, please draw my attention to such.
And, something to ponder on, do we consider it a victory that Joseph Smith Jr. also became completely exasperated and withheld the greater portion as a result?
The only victory I see here is a victory for contention and unbelief having their way.
You don't give up do you? You have to lie to make a point? You're incessant, relentless and "here me out" and "you supply no substance" accusations are plentiful, yet you will not accept truth. Why do you persist in making assertions against people that believe what they believe to be true? What on God's green earth is wrong with you, JWharton? Where is your respect and reasoning for our doctrine and the people believing it? huh? As a matter of record, you condemn it more that you will admit to. What a bunch of garbage. Are you a narcissist? Do you just have to have your way at any cost, at any reason you have beyond reproach?
Some of us can see right through your game plan, do you know that?
Answer this, you tell us what it will take to get you to accept responsibility for all your deceitful actions and fictional doctrine in getting us to adopt your doctrine. What will it take, JWharton?
What will it take before you will stop groaning and moaning in an attempt to get us to listen? I mean, listen to this poor reasoning in the form of moaning and groaning. Do you think we're stupid?
The only victory I see here is a victory for contention and unbelief having their way.
This is typical language we're very familiar with. Believe me, you have no clue as to what level of unbelief is coming from your corner. Plus your statement is nothing more than a form of baiting. You just won't quit without insults and childish words. We're on to you, sir.