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Trump Is not my President - funny metal remix.

Satanists protesting against Trump at Woman's March.

Protesters outside the "Deploraball" throw empty bottles and cans at police as cops answer with pepper spray grenades and tear gas ahead of the inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump.

'Australia Day' celebrations have been marred by a violent protest organised by a far-left group, which ended in clashes with police. Murad Gazdiev takes a look at how the far-left is adopting some of the more-sinister tactics from the other end of the spectrum.

Last year Nasa detected an object, that could be a comet or an asteroid, on a path towards Earth. The space agency has said the mysterious object will safely pass Earth at a distance of nearly 32 million miles (51 million kilometres) on February 25th. But one self-proclaimed astronomer has come up with an alternative theory, suggesting the asteroid will crash into Earth on February 16th and trigger a mega-tsunami, according to reports.

Lawrence Krauss is involved with this psyop. FEAR THE CLOCK = Trump Scapegoat narrative.

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Dang.

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LdsMarco wrote:Last year Nasa detected an object, that could be a comet or an asteroid, on a path towards Earth. The space agency has said the mysterious object will safely pass Earth at a distance of nearly 32 million miles (51 million kilometres) on February 25th. But one self-proclaimed astronomer has come up with an alternative theory, suggesting the asteroid will crash into Earth on February 16th and trigger a mega-tsunami, according to reports.
Dyomin Zakharovich is a kook and the media really needs to ignore him. He claims 2016 WF9 was ejected from the Nibiru system "when it began spinning counter clockwise around the sun." WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? Does he claim to have discovered this hypothesized planet? How is he measuring it? What does he even mean by spinning counter clockwise? Planets don't spin. They rotate and they orbit. For a rotation to reverse, a tremendous amount of force would be required and it wouldn't have any impact on objects in orbit around it. For it to reverse its orbital path, it would need even more force to move it. If this object were ejected from an orbit around a Kuiper belt object in October, it wouldn't be coming anywhere near Earth for several years. If it were moving fast enough to reach us in four months or less, it would be moving so fast that it would not remain in the solar system.

Humans have been calculating orbits for over 300 years and we've gotten pretty good at it. It isn't hard to determine that 2016 WF9 has a semi major axis of 2.8749 AU. This places aphelion at 4.7680 AU, well inside Jupiter's perihelion of 4.95029 AU.

Astronomy isn't a conspiracy, it's science. If modern observatories are still online when we see the sign of the coming of the Son of Man, astronomers and planetary scientists won't be conspiring to keep a secret; they will be studying what they see to figure out what it is and why it doesn't appear to follow the rules of orbital mechanics.

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3 or 7 years is the interval from presidential effection to selection.

Effection meaning when a presidents policies begin to show effect.

Financial data such as GDP plotted quarterly is a good way to observe said effection.

Specifically January - March is before effection and April - June occurs after initial effection.

This aligns closely with 100 days in office and will present opportunity to observe any change to relative prosperity, per the statement = 7 years of prosperity begins the first week of April 2017, followed by 7 years of devastation.

The reign of kings and 7 year feast/famines are a type and shadow of things to come for those that read the signs correctly.

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BeNotDeceived wrote:3 or 7 years is the interval from presidential effection to selection.

Effection meaning when a presidents policies begin to show effect.

Financial data such as GDP plotted quarterly is a good way to observe said effection.

Specifically January - March is before effection and April - June occurs after initial effection.

This aligns closely with 100 days in office and will present opportunity to observe any change to relative prosperity, per the statement = 7 years of prosperity begins the first week of April 2017, followed by 7 years of devastation.

The reign of kings and 7 year feast/famines are a type and shadow of things to come for those that read the signs correctly.
I see what you're saying, but how is it that you think Trump is the one president who signifies this cycle?

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brianj wrote:
LdsMarco wrote:Last year Nasa detected an object, that could be a comet or an asteroid, on a path towards Earth. The space agency has said the mysterious object will safely pass Earth at a distance of nearly 32 million miles (51 million kilometres) on February 25th. But one self-proclaimed astronomer has come up with an alternative theory, suggesting the asteroid will crash into Earth on February 16th and trigger a mega-tsunami, according to reports.
Dyomin Zakharovich is a kook and the media really needs to ignore him. He claims 2016 WF9 was ejected from the Nibiru system "when it began spinning counter clockwise around the sun." WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? Does he claim to have discovered this hypothesized planet? How is he measuring it? What does he even mean by spinning counter clockwise? Planets don't spin. They rotate and they orbit. For a rotation to reverse, a tremendous amount of force would be required and it wouldn't have any impact on objects in orbit around it. For it to reverse its orbital path, it would need even more force to move it. If this object were ejected from an orbit around a Kuiper belt object in October, it wouldn't be coming anywhere near Earth for several years. If it were moving fast enough to reach us in four months or less, it would be moving so fast that it would not remain in the solar system.

Humans have been calculating orbits for over 300 years and we've gotten pretty good at it. It isn't hard to determine that 2016 WF9 has a semi major axis of 2.8749 AU. This places aphelion at 4.7680 AU, well inside Jupiter's perihelion of 4.95029 AU.

Astronomy isn't a conspiracy, it's science. If modern observatories are still online when we see the sign of the coming of the Son of Man, astronomers and planetary scientists won't be conspiring to keep a secret; they will be studying what they see to figure out what it is and why it doesn't appear to follow the rules of orbital mechanics.
How do you know this? Most scientific studies involving planetary science is based on theories. Theories that continue to change over time. Science is of the world. I bet Abraham knew more about the universe than all the modern scientist combined.

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GrandMasterB wrote:
brianj wrote:
LdsMarco wrote:Last year Nasa detected an object, that could be a comet or an asteroid, on a path towards Earth. The space agency has said the mysterious object will safely pass Earth at a distance of nearly 32 million miles (51 million kilometres) on February 25th. But one self-proclaimed astronomer has come up with an alternative theory, suggesting the asteroid will crash into Earth on February 16th and trigger a mega-tsunami, according to reports.
Dyomin Zakharovich is a kook and the media really needs to ignore him. He claims 2016 WF9 was ejected from the Nibiru system "when it began spinning counter clockwise around the sun." WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? Does he claim to have discovered this hypothesized planet? How is he measuring it? What does he even mean by spinning counter clockwise? Planets don't spin. They rotate and they orbit. For a rotation to reverse, a tremendous amount of force would be required and it wouldn't have any impact on objects in orbit around it. For it to reverse its orbital path, it would need even more force to move it. If this object were ejected from an orbit around a Kuiper belt object in October, it wouldn't be coming anywhere near Earth for several years. If it were moving fast enough to reach us in four months or less, it would be moving so fast that it would not remain in the solar system.

Humans have been calculating orbits for over 300 years and we've gotten pretty good at it. It isn't hard to determine that 2016 WF9 has a semi major axis of 2.8749 AU. This places aphelion at 4.7680 AU, well inside Jupiter's perihelion of 4.95029 AU.

Astronomy isn't a conspiracy, it's science. If modern observatories are still online when we see the sign of the coming of the Son of Man, astronomers and planetary scientists won't be conspiring to keep a secret; they will be studying what they see to figure out what it is and why it doesn't appear to follow the rules of orbital mechanics.
How do you know this? Most scientific studies involving planetary science is based on theories. Theories that continue to change over time. Science is of the world. I bet Abraham knew more about the universe than all the modern scientist combined.
I doubt it. Abraham might have had a broader general knowledge than modern scientists, but I have difficulty accepting that he knew more than all modern scientists. That much knowledge is way too much for any one person.

Regarding theory, do you know what a theory is? Like the theory of gravity? When's the last time you observed gravity not working the way it has been observed as working for the history of mankind?

Around the time Galileo was making great strides in visual exploration of the sky, Johannes Kepler was mathematically discovering the laws of planetary motion. Those efforts laid groundwork for the development of orbital mechanics. And man's understanding of orbital mechanics has been demonstrated many times as spacecraft rendezvoused in orbit, flew to other celestial bodies, and left the solar system.

You call planetary science a theory. But that theory has proven sufficient to send spacecraft anywhere we have wanted to send them.

Tell me something, Bud-Bud (season 7, episode 14): If mankind has no understanding of orbital mechanics, are you amazed to see short period comets miraculously show up when a mathematical model says they will show up?
GPS can only work if the position and movement of satellites can be known precisely. Isn't it amazing that a theory you don't accept is good enough to tell you where you are within a few meters?

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brianj wrote:
GrandMasterB wrote:
brianj wrote:
LdsMarco wrote:Last year Nasa detected an object, that could be a comet or an asteroid, on a path towards Earth. The space agency has said the mysterious object will safely pass Earth at a distance of nearly 32 million miles (51 million kilometres) on February 25th. But one self-proclaimed astronomer has come up with an alternative theory, suggesting the asteroid will crash into Earth on February 16th and trigger a mega-tsunami, according to reports.
Dyomin Zakharovich is a kook and the media really needs to ignore him. He claims 2016 WF9 was ejected from the Nibiru system "when it began spinning counter clockwise around the sun." WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? Does he claim to have discovered this hypothesized planet? How is he measuring it? What does he even mean by spinning counter clockwise? Planets don't spin. They rotate and they orbit. For a rotation to reverse, a tremendous amount of force would be required and it wouldn't have any impact on objects in orbit around it. For it to reverse its orbital path, it would need even more force to move it. If this object were ejected from an orbit around a Kuiper belt object in October, it wouldn't be coming anywhere near Earth for several years. If it were moving fast enough to reach us in four months or less, it would be moving so fast that it would not remain in the solar system.

Humans have been calculating orbits for over 300 years and we've gotten pretty good at it. It isn't hard to determine that 2016 WF9 has a semi major axis of 2.8749 AU. This places aphelion at 4.7680 AU, well inside Jupiter's perihelion of 4.95029 AU.

Astronomy isn't a conspiracy, it's science. If modern observatories are still online when we see the sign of the coming of the Son of Man, astronomers and planetary scientists won't be conspiring to keep a secret; they will be studying what they see to figure out what it is and why it doesn't appear to follow the rules of orbital mechanics.
How do you know this? Most scientific studies involving planetary science is based on theories. Theories that continue to change over time. Science is of the world. I bet Abraham knew more about the universe than all the modern scientist combined.
I doubt it. Abraham might have had a broader general knowledge than modern scientists, but I have difficulty accepting that he knew more than all modern scientists. That much knowledge is way too much for any one person.

Regarding theory, do you know what a theory is? Like the theory of gravity? When's the last time you observed gravity not working the way it has been observed as working for the history of mankind?

Around the time Galileo was making great strides in visual exploration of the sky, Johannes Kepler was mathematically discovering the laws of planetary motion. Those efforts laid groundwork for the development of orbital mechanics. And man's understanding of orbital mechanics has been demonstrated many times as spacecraft rendezvoused in orbit, flew to other celestial bodies, and left the solar system.

You call planetary science a theory. But that theory has proven sufficient to send spacecraft anywhere we have wanted to send them.

Tell me something, Bud-Bud (season 7, episode 14): If mankind has no understanding of orbital mechanics, are you amazed to see short period comets miraculously show up when a mathematical model says they will show up?
GPS can only work if the position and movement of satellites can be known precisely. Isn't it amazing that a theory you don't accept is good enough to tell you where you are within a few meters?
Actually gravity has been observed to not function as it was intended many, many times. Why do you think scientist had to invent black holes and dark matter. It is because gravity alone, as an infinitely weak force, can't possibly be what is holding everything together. We know that it is God and not gravity that holds everything in its place, that is, if you believe modern revelations. Almost all science is antichrist as it tries to prove things exist without a Creator.

Also are you saying that Scientist know more than God? God is who taught Abraham about how things worked in the heavens. I am honestly surprised you put so much faith into science. Surely God's knowledge far surpasses man's.

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GrandMasterB wrote:Actually gravity has been observed to not function as it was intended many, many times. Why do you think scientist had to invent black holes and dark matter. It is because gravity alone, as an infinitely weak force, can't possibly be what is holding everything together. We know that it is God and not gravity that holds everything in its place, that is, if you believe modern revelations. Almost all science is antichrist as it tries to prove things exist without a Creator.

Also are you saying that Scientist know more than God? God is who taught Abraham about how things worked in the heavens. I am honestly surprised you put so much faith into science. Surely God's knowledge far surpasses man's.
Gravity has been observed to not function as predicted, not as intended.
Scientists didn't invent black holes. General relativity describes gravity as curving spacetime, and when Einstein provided his mathematical model of general relativity he saw the points of infinite mass but didn't know what they were. It wasn't until decades later that black holes were indirectly observed. General relativity also describes gravitational waves; it took more than a century to develop and deploy the technology to detect these waves.
Gravity is not infinitely weak. It has a finite strength.
Science isn't about proving no creator, it is about understanding the universe around us. Science is responsible for the computers we use and the church uses to share the gospel message, the airplanes that transport general authorities and missionaries around the world, the vaccines the church requires missionaries to receive, the medical and dental treatments that so many of us rely on in our lives, and far more of your daily life than you want to acknowledge. If science is so evil, why has the church added seismic retrofits to temples and other church buildings: technology that arose from the science of geology?

I know that mankind's accumulated knowledge is a tiny fraction of what there is to learn. And I know that we occasionally get things wrong. People once thought the earth was the center of the universe and that electrons existed on the surface of atomic nuclei. Newton's theory of gravity was accurate enough to last over two centuries, but a discrepancy of far less than one percent was far enough off for Einstein and later physicists to improve upon Newton's work.

You can dismiss gravity if you want, but disbelief doesn't prove something is false.

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brianj wrote:
GrandMasterB wrote:Actually gravity has been observed to not function as it was intended many, many times. Why do you think scientist had to invent black holes and dark matter. It is because gravity alone, as an infinitely weak force, can't possibly be what is holding everything together. We know that it is God and not gravity that holds everything in its place, that is, if you believe modern revelations. Almost all science is antichrist as it tries to prove things exist without a Creator.

Also are you saying that Scientist know more than God? God is who taught Abraham about how things worked in the heavens. I am honestly surprised you put so much faith into science. Surely God's knowledge far surpasses man's.
Gravity has been observed to not function as predicted, not as intended.
Scientists didn't invent black holes. General relativity describes gravity as curving spacetime, and when Einstein provided his mathematical model of general relativity he saw the points of infinite mass but didn't know what they were. It wasn't until decades later that black holes were indirectly observed. General relativity also describes gravitational waves; it took more than a century to develop and deploy the technology to detect these waves.
Gravity is not infinitely weak. It has a finite strength.
Science isn't about proving no creator, it is about understanding the universe around us. Science is responsible for the computers we use and the church uses to share the gospel message, the airplanes that transport general authorities and missionaries around the world, the vaccines the church requires missionaries to receive, the medical and dental treatments that so many of us rely on in our lives, and far more of your daily life than you want to acknowledge. If science is so evil, why has the church added seismic retrofits to temples and other church buildings: technology that arose from the science of geology?

I know that mankind's accumulated knowledge is a tiny fraction of what there is to learn. And I know that we occasionally get things wrong. People once thought the earth was the center of the universe and that electrons existed on the surface of atomic nuclei. Newton's theory of gravity was accurate enough to last over two centuries, but a discrepancy of far less than one percent was far enough off for Einstein and later physicists to improve upon Newton's work.

You can dismiss gravity if you want, but disbelief doesn't prove something is false.
I am talking about planetary science not all science. We only can observer things governed by telestial law here. Black holes have never been observed and convienetly never will be either. Indirectly observed is laughable since you can't prove it. Also dark matter had to be created when the black hole models failed to predict celestial movements around those invisible objects. Science doesn't even know what this gravity is or even if it is a constant. You keep your head in the world of planetary antichrist science if you want. That is your right. I will keep my head in the scriptures.

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GrandMasterB wrote:I am talking about planetary science not all science. We only can observer things governed by telestial law here. Black holes have never been observed and convienetly never will be either. Indirectly observed is laughable since you can't prove it. Also dark matter had to be created when the black hole models failed to predict celestial movements around those invisible objects. Science doesn't even know what this gravity is or even if it is a constant. You keep your head in the world of planetary antichrist science if you want. That is your right. I will keep my head in the scriptures.
Nobody has seen x-rays. But I have seen the results of x-ray radiation hitting film when part of my body is between the source and film. Though we obviously can't directly observe black holes, we have been able to image objects orbiting black holes and we have been able to image the gravitational lensing of light from a point beyond a black hole. And dark matter is not associated with black holes; it was theorized because the mass seen within galaxies is not enough to explain the movement of galaxies within the universe.

It is true that we don't yet know what gravity is. But there's a lot we don't know. That's the purpose of science: to learn what we don't know.

And I'll keep my head "in the world of planetary antichrist science." Here's something that will blow your mind and convince you I should bee excommunicated:
In the beginning the earth was created. It wasn't created out of nothing; a couple of tiny pieces of dust came together slowly enough that the weak influence of gravity overcame their relative velocity to hold them together. The increased gravity from those few specs of dust created enough of a gravitational field to draw other particles together. In time this planet, the moon, the sun, and the rest of the solar system was formed from those tiny pieces of dust and ice.
After that formation of objects within the solar system, atomic fusion within the sun began, eventually bringing radiation to the surface so light was generated within the new solar system. At this point light was everywhere; there was no division of light and darkness and the stars were not visible. But charged particles leaving the sun, what we call solar wind, caused the nebula from which the sun formed to dissipate. When that nebula was no longer reflecting light within the solar system the stars became visible and the side of each planet and moon that wasn't facing the sun was not exposed to light and therefore in darkness.
As the crust of the earth cooled, water was able to condense and cover the surface. Asteroid impacts, tectonic activity, and volcanoes caused land to rise creating one or more continents.
When land was stable and the environment had stabilized, the planet was able to support plant life that it was seeded with.
At some point animal life was introduced, either externally or through evolution.
A hypothesis consistent with the fossil record is that evolution was guided to create homo sapiens, and at that point the spirit of a man was placed into one of those beings to give life to Adam.

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LDS Physician wrote:
BeNotDeceived wrote:3 or 7 years is the interval from presidential effection to selection.

Effection meaning when a presidents policies begin to show effect.

Financial data such as GDP plotted quarterly is a good way to observe said effection.

Specifically January - March is before effection and April - June occurs after initial effection.

This aligns closely with 100 days in office and will present opportunity to observe any change to relative prosperity, per the statement = 7 years of prosperity begins the first week of April 2017, followed by 7 years of devastation.

The reign of kings and 7 year feast/famines are a type and shadow of things to come for those that read the signs correctly.
I see what you're saying, but how is it that you think Trump is the one president who signifies this cycle?
This article describes the 2000 year interval.

... In Jesus’ day, one denarii represented an average man’s pay for one day’s work, so two denarii covered TWO days wages:

“Now when he had agreed with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard.” (Matthew 20:2).

So, this seemingly trivial, unimportant, little detail in the parable of the Good Samaritan was actually God confirming that Jesus Christ will return to planet Earth in 2 days after he leaves it!  The two days represent two thousand years, specifically ... http://2028end.com/confirmations/parabl ... -samaritan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My 2030 thread, adjusted to 2031, aligns 7 year periods to the Trump administration.

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brianj wrote:
GrandMasterB wrote:I am talking about planetary science not all science. We only can observer things governed by telestial law here. Black holes have never been observed and convienetly never will be either. Indirectly observed is laughable since you can't prove it. Also dark matter had to be created when the black hole models failed to predict celestial movements around those invisible objects. Science doesn't even know what this gravity is or even if it is a constant. You keep your head in the world of planetary antichrist science if you want. That is your right. I will keep my head in the scriptures.
Nobody has seen x-rays. But I have seen the results of x-ray radiation hitting film when part of my body is between the source and film. Though we obviously can't directly observe black holes, we have been able to image objects orbiting black holes and we have been able to image the gravitational lensing of light from a point beyond a black hole. And dark matter is not associated with black holes; it was theorized because the mass seen within galaxies is not enough to explain the movement of galaxies within the universe.

It is true that we don't yet know what gravity is. But there's a lot we don't know. That's the purpose of science: to learn what we don't know.

And I'll keep my head "in the world of planetary antichrist science." Here's something that will blow your mind and convince you I should bee excommunicated:
In the beginning the earth was created. It wasn't created out of nothing; a couple of tiny pieces of dust came together slowly enough that the weak influence of gravity overcame their relative velocity to hold them together. The increased gravity from those few specs of dust created enough of a gravitational field to draw other particles together. In time this planet, the moon, the sun, and the rest of the solar system was formed from those tiny pieces of dust and ice.
After that formation of objects within the solar system, atomic fusion within the sun began, eventually bringing radiation to the surface so light was generated within the new solar system. At this point light was everywhere; there was no division of light and darkness and the stars were not visible. But charged particles leaving the sun, what we call solar wind, caused the nebula from which the sun formed to dissipate. When that nebula was no longer reflecting light within the solar system the stars became visible and the side of each planet and moon that wasn't facing the sun was not exposed to light and therefore in darkness.
As the crust of the earth cooled, water was able to condense and cover the surface. Asteroid impacts, tectonic activity, and volcanoes caused land to rise creating one or more continents.
When land was stable and the environment had stabilized, the planet was able to support plant life that it was seeded with.
At some point animal life was introduced, either externally or through evolution.
A hypothesis consistent with the fossil record is that evolution was guided to create homo sapiens, and at that point the spirit of a man was placed into one of those beings to give life to Adam.
Nice story but completely false. Don't even get me started on the bogus fossil record. Let's age the bones by the layer of rocks they are in and the layer of rocks by the types of bones we find in the rocks. Yes that is good science .......fiction. Satan's church is so much fun!

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