Durzan wrote: ↑April 28th, 2017, 11:37 amMy reasoning is thus:Spaced_Out wrote: ↑April 28th, 2017, 11:14 amWe get the hastening which has happened, next withdrawal of missionaries then according to the scriptures it comes as a whirlwind. There is no slow decline and yes it will be very soooooon...Durzan wrote: ↑April 28th, 2017, 10:54 amHonestly, I don't think we are... We are in the downward spiral that is leading to the Tribulation, and if not that, we are on or very near the tipping point.Robin Hood wrote: ↑April 28th, 2017, 9:21 am
I think we are already in the Tribulation and have been for some time.
...the start of the Tribulation is characterized by a general collapse of society throughout the world due to a combination of natural disasters, plauges, economic issues, etc. because of the wickedness of the world. This collapse starts out slow, but quickly picks up steam at an exponential rate (how long it actually takes is debatable, and beside the point). This chaos will continue throughout the world until it is complete (the number 7 signifies completion, not neccesarily a specific ammount of time), at which point zion will be established in the America's, while the Anti-Christ will establish his empire as a counterpoint.
America will be one of the first nations hit by this collapse, as without her death and rebirth as Zion, the creation of this world would prove to be in vain.
On top of that, Elias will appear just before or just as the Tribulation is starting. Elias is also to be known as the Marred Servant, the Son of the Morning (this title referring to him being a member of the Great and Noble Ones), the Last Prophet of the Last Dispensation, the Man with Eyes of Azure, the Fourth Brother, etc. Elias has not shown his face yet, so the Tribulation Period has not started.
Both of these reasons are why I say we are NOT in the actual days of Tribulation, but rather in the days leading up to the Tribulation Period.
I believe that the actual destruction begins in 2030 witch the Second Coming in 2100.