Stock Markets are heading for that crash we are watching for, watch for the real crash within six months!!!

[Sunain]

It seems that a lot of people are avoiding the markets now and investing in Bitcoin and Ethereum. If you think the stock market is wild, look at the price of those two through 2017.
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/bitcoin-c ... ack-risks/
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/05/ethereum ... -high.html

I honestly think Canada might be the trigger for the market collapse.

TD Bank had $2.5-billion of net income during the second quarter, up 22 per cent from a year ago. The earnings amounted to $1.31 per share.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report- ... e35111077/

Just this week, most the major Canadian banks announced record profits on low interest rates. People are borrowing like there is no tomorrow. Debt levels are crazy.

More than half of Canadians say they aren’t financially prepared if interest rates jump, expenses rise: survey

“The millennial segment owes more than any previous generation and are not prepared to meet unexpected expenses. They’re homeowners, their furnace could go, they could need a new transmission on their car,” said Lunny.

http://business.financialpost.com/perso ... ise-survey

Canada is so fragile at the moment that it wouldn't take much to throw the country into chaos. The USA and Canada are very tied together financially. I think either country could trigger problems in the other. This will be different for Canada vs 2008 collapse in the USA.

[kirtland r.m.]

Oh, gosh! For a second there I thought it was 2015....hahaha!

Hi littlemikey, check back in six months. You will be surprised how accurate this post will be. Here is twenty years of investing I have done condensed into one paragraph.Take out all of the prophesy, and you still get a market that is the second longest market without a recession in U.S. history. A market with declining earnings, with way overpriced stocks(that always happens at the end of a bull market) Yea, a fake one as well, as our economy has not recovered as in bull markets in the past! Stock index charts are flattening out like a roller coaster at the top of a big incline. All of these things and more are a recipe for disaster. Six months or less from now. Mark my words.

Just checking back. Anything new for us, kirtland?

Yes,new P.O.T.U.S. is a business man. He has inspired some confidence in the markets. This is causing a(so it appears) longer and even record breaking stretch of prosperity in economic recoveries since W.W. two. This recovery started out very slow and anemic, not normal(because of the extra bad conditions this time around, including higher national debt, 20 trillion dollars for U.S. and bad political decisions). Now things a picking up somewhat faster. Eventual next recession has been delayed, but it will come, and because of new banking rules(bail ins, not the old bailouts we have seen, and debt factors), I believe it will be very bad. Look at the cation, the VERY SLOW rack that the Fed. is taking on raising interest rates this time.

Also, Pres. Trump is a spender(look at proposed infrastructure spending). He has and is getting some more liberal spending ideas from those around him. Wish we cold get rid of his daughter and son in law's(Cushners) influence, who elected them to any political place of power anyway! Things seem to be rolling right along and until here is some kind of trigger they may stay the same for a while longer now. I really don't even have a guess. Look at a long term U.S. stock index chart and you will see we are in nosebleed territory. Overpriced, and this is what always happens in the last part of a bull market. I made o.p. on what I had months ago, now we have seen some big changes hat have prolonged time till next crash. Hang in there and may God bless us all.

[kirtland r.m.]

Oh, gosh! For a second there I thought it was 2015....hahaha!

Hi littlemikey, check back in six months. You will be surprised how accurate this post will be. Here is twenty years of investing I have done condensed into one paragraph.Take out all of the prophesy, and you still get a market that is the second longest market without a recession in U.S. history. A market with declining earnings, with way overpriced stocks(that always happens at the end of a bull market) Yea, a fake one as well, as our economy has not recovered as in bull markets in the past! Stock index charts are flattening out like a roller coaster at the top of a big incline. All of these things and more are a recipe for disaster. Six months or less from now. Mark my words.

Just checking back. Anything new for us, kirtland?

Yes,new P.O.T.U.S. is a business man. He has inspired some confidence in the markets. This is causing a(so it appears) longer and even record breaking stretch of prosperity in economic recoveries since W.W. two. This recovery started out very slow and anemic, not normal(because of the extra bad conditions this time around, including higher national debt, 20 trillion dollars for U.S. and bad political decisions). Now things a picking up somewhat faster. Eventual next recession has been delayed, but it will come, and because of new banking rules(bail ins, not the old bailouts we have seen, and debt factors), I believe it will be very bad. Look at the caution, the VERY SLOW track that the Fed. is taking on raising interest rates this time.

Also, Pres. Trump is a spender(look at proposed infrastructure spending). He has and is getting some more liberal spending ideas from those around him. Wish we cold get rid of his daughter and son in law's(Cushners) influence, who elected them to any political place of power anyway! Things seem to be rolling right along and until here is some kind of trigger they may stay the same for a while longer now. I really don't even have a guess. Look at a long term U.S. stock index chart and you will see we are in nosebleed territory. Overpriced, and this is what always happens in the last part of a bull market. I made o.p. on what I had months ago, now we have seen some big changes that have prolonged time till next crash. Hang in there and may God bless us all.

[Spaced_Out]

Just as with "predicting" an earthquake predicting that someday there will be a market collapse is no prediction at all. That is what markets do. It would also be just as correct to predict that someday the markets will reach new highs as well.

Like the test for earthquakes the test for markets is not saying they will crash, that is like predicting the sun will rise in the morning, the test is if you are able to give a specific timeframe for that collapse and this is where everyone fails. Either because, as many here seem to believe there are dark hands controlling the markets who would seek to discredit those seekining to expose their plans. Or, more likely, the markets move in what are unpredictable ways that simply defy the ability to accurately predict their actions.

In either case however I am just as accurate a financial forecaster to say that there will be a financial collapse as I am in saying there will, in the future, be a financial boom. In both I am correct and in both my predictions are worthless because they are not predictions at all just statements of known facts.

There were a handful of people who predicted the 2008 crash and made some good coin. Yes the markets are being manipulated which is in itself a sign of imminent collapse. Despite all the manipulation and money printing, since March 2017 the entire system has got a speed wobble which we know is going to end badly and very soon.

The many bubbles created by easy money are starting to burst. There are so many scary things going on the markets it is all too much to discuss. I read daily from financiers that are ringing the warning bells. The US auto bubble has started to pop, as well as the Canadian housing bubble, and Chinese debt bubble to name a few. A few articles that came out today. I am confident that it is going down in 2017 -or the US Fed will have to lower interest rates and start printing money again, I think the money printing is coming to an end.

After 47 Years, Stephen Lewis Calls It Quits In A Scathing Critique Of Modern Markets
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... rn-markets

Is CarMax Inventory The Canary In The Coalmine Of The Slumping Auto Industry?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... o-industry

"We Have Only Seen This Market Anomaly Twice Before: In 1999 And 2006"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... 9-and-2006

All Hell Breaks Loose In Toronto's House Price Bubble
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... ice-bubble

RBC: "Something Is Wrong Here: Indicators Are Flashing An Imminent Yield Breakdown Warning"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... wn-warning

[Spaced_Out]

Another day another financial analyst throwing in the towel.
"Let me tell you I've never been more certain of anything in my life," Parker said. "I am absolutely certain we are in a bubble in this property market. Mortgage fraud is endemic, it's systemic, it's just terrible what's going on. When you've got 30-year-olds, who have never seen a property downturn before, borrowing up to 80 per cent to buy three and four apartments, it's a bubble."

"This Market Is Crazy": Hedge Fund Returns Hundreds Of Millions To Clients Citing Imminent "Calamity"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-29/

Turkey Bans Short-Selling, Online-Trading As Nation's Best-Performing Stock Crashes
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-2 ... ming-stock

[brianj]

I've heard of people in places like Toronto, Vancouver, Los Angeles, and San Francisco who think that it's great that their property has a seven figure price tag, and that it means the economy couldn't be better.

But what does it really mean? Among other things it means that people are putting almost all of their money into paying their mortgages. Many of these people have a furnished living room and dining room (the rooms guests will see - what's more important than appearance?), and don't have furniture in other rooms. The really lucky ones at least have beds.
This means that so much money is going to paying for those houses that they can't even afford furniture or much else in life. A strong economy depends on people buying things! The more a population buys the more stores are able to be in business, the more goods are manufactured, and the more things are transported. This all translates to more jobs, people earning more money, and people spending that money.

If things go well for me I will take a dream vacation late this year or early next year, and I am really hoping that the bubble popping doesn't collapse the economy before then.

[Spaced_Out]

Another day and a few more warnings from money managers who have many decades experience, one is even giving 12 October 2017 as a date.
It is at the door and coming very very sooooooooon..

If everything is going to be “just fine”, why are so many big names in the financial community warning about an imminent meltdown? I don’t think that I have seen so many simultaneous warnings about a market crash since just before the great financial crisis of 2008.

5 Highly Respected Financial Experts That Are Warning That A Market Crash Is Imminent
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... s-imminent

Paul Singer Warns "All Hell Will Break Loose"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-3 ... reak-loose

Lance Roberts: This Market Is Like A Tanker Of Gasoline
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-3 ... r-gasoline

So, the only thing that’s been missing up to this moment right now is the herding of individuals into a specific type of investment. But just like with real estate in the past, we have now people herding into ETFs. And now, with all these computers basically acting on the same set of information pushing stocks in the same direction because they’re all working off the same set of information, the market is like a tanker of gasoline. And somebody’s going to put a lit stick a dynamite into it because when this all reverses, you have these passive indexers become panic sellers. And then that beings to immediately trigger a reversal in the algorithms, which all feed on themselves in a negative direction. And the gap that opens up between the bid and sell prices will be staggering.

[Still Learning]

There's a prediction every day of the crash. Yes it will come but why bother even thinking about it anymore. Be prepared and live your life. I've heard this garbage of this date and that date for a decade. No date will be right. It will just happen eventually and if your heart isn't set on the money in the world then who cares?

[Spaced_Out]

There's a prediction every day of the crash. Yes it will come but why bother even thinking about it anymore. Be prepared and live your life. I've heard this garbage of this date and that date for a decade. No date will be right. It will just happen eventually and if your heart isn't set on the money in the world then who cares?

The daily barrage of people warning about a crash has increased dramatically over the last month. This time it is data driven.
Desperation is setting in China. US retail apocalypses has breached the cliff edge and and going down like a lead balloon.

Jim Rogers Warns Next Crisis Will Be "Biggest In My Lifetime"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-0 ... y-lifetime
"Later this year or Next"
Billionaire commodity guru Jim Rogers believes the next economic catastrophe is coming. And when it arrives, it’ll be the worst financial calamity the 74-year old investor has ever seen.
Rogers, who discussed his outlook on “The Bottom Line” with Henry Blodget, told the Business Insider founder that the tremendous debt buildup and unreasonably high asset valuations have made the global economy even more vulnerable than it was in 2008, and that the next crash will the "the biggest in my lifetime."

"It's A Perfect Storm": List Of Retailers In Danger Of Bankruptcy Hits Record 22
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-0 ... -record-22

Chinese Companies Ask Employees To Buy Their Stock, Promise To Cover Losses
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-0 ... ver-losses

[Spaced_Out]

It is getting close and the rhetoric is increasing.

U.S. Weeks Away From A Recession According To Latest Loan Data
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-1 ... -loan-data


Goldman: "The Last Time The Market Acted Like This Was At The Tech Bubble Peak"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-1 ... ubble-peak

Why The Markets Are Overdue For A Gigantic Bust
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-1 ... antic-bust

The Fourth Turning: A Summer Of Rage And The Total Eclipse Of The Deep State
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-1 ... deep-state