The Ultimate George Albert Smith Prophecy Thread

[Talon65]

only 2 Holidays left before the new President takes the oath of Office on Jan 20th... it seems we are less than a month from proving/disproving the GAS Prophecy...

[stephenj]

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[AI2.0]

David Horne also mentioned that President Smith indicated that this nuclear
attack would take place on a holiday after the new president was elected, but
before he took office. The following war would involve many of the countries of
the world but President Smith talked specifically about Europe, Germany,
Hungary, Israel, Turkey, United States, and the Soviet Union, as well as a few
others.
1.Statement of David Hughes Horne, P.E., copyrighted March 26, 1989

So IF this is really from a prophet then I would expect all of it, or none of it, to be true. Therefore, IF this Russian attack were to happen then it appears it would have to occur within the next 9 days. Is that correct?

I think Russians and Spanish celebrate around 7th of JAN , so really a bit longer than 9 days x

Though one wonders if President GAS was thinking about the date of the Russian New Year when he related his vision.

Holidays in Russia in 2017 https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/russia/2017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Date Weekday Holiday Name Holiday Type
Jan 1 Sunday New Year's Day National holiday
Jan 2 Monday New Year Holiday Week National holiday
Jan 3 Tuesday New Year Holiday Week National holiday
Jan 4 Wednesday New Year Holiday Week National holiday
Jan 5 Thursday New Year Holiday Week National holiday
Jan 6 Friday New Year Holiday Week National holiday
Jan 7 Saturday Orthodox Christmas Day National holiday, Orthodox
Jan 14 Saturday Old New Year Observance
Feb 14 Tuesday Valentine's Day Observance
Feb 23 Thursday Defender of the Fatherland Day National holiday
Feb 27 Monday Special Operations Forces Day De facto holiday
Mar 8 Wednesday International Women's Day National holiday
Mar 20 Monday March equinox Season
Apr 16 Sunday Orthodox Easter Day Observance, Orthodox
May 1 Monday Spring and Labor Day National holiday
May 8 Monday Extra holiday in lieu of Jan. 7 National holiday
May 9 Tuesday Victory Day National holiday
Jun 12 Monday Russia Day National holiday
Jun 21 Wednesday June Solstice Season
Sep 22 Friday September equinox Season
Nov 4 Saturday Unity Day National holiday
Nov 6 Monday Unity Day observed National holiday
Dec 21 Thursday December Solstice Season

IF for some very odd reason, Pres. Smith was referring to a Russian holiday, then only the ones up to Jan 14th are eligible, since it must happen before the new president takes office, which will be January 20th.

David Horne also mentioned that President Smith indicated that this nuclear
attack would take place on a holiday after the new president was elected, but
before he took office.

My own opinion is that this prophecy is not credible. I'm not sure of the reason, but I don't trust it. There was no mention of a woman running for office, there's the problem with the confusion over 'greek' and 'non-european ancestry' and no mention of Trump, who has made history because he is the first to win the Presidency with no political or military experience. You'd think that would have been worth mentioning, if Pres. Smith had actually seen this election in a vision.

[stephenj]

Personally it doesn't seem right that he would be talking about an attack on America, and reference the election and inauguration of an American president and then refer to a holiday and not mention he meant a RUSSIAN holiday. Doesn't make sense to me. It sounds like it would either be something happening Christmas Day, New Years Day, or it is all false.

[Silver]

Just checked. Our fellow forum member kirtland...

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Has he been busy with the holidays? I hope he's OK.

[shadow]

Just checked. Our fellow forum member kirtland...

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Has he been busy with the holidays? I hope he's OK.

A while ago I thought he might be Mills Crenshaw, which would explain his recent absence, but he didn't try to get people to buy silver so I figured it wasn't.

He might've headed for the hills already, freezing his butt of in a snow cave thinking we're all being killed by the Russians

[Onsdag]

Just checked. Our fellow forum member kirtland...

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Has he been busy with the holidays? I hope he's OK.

A while ago I thought he might be Mills Crenshaw, which would explain his recent absence, but he didn't try to get people to buy silver so I figured it wasn't.

He might've headed for the hills already, freezing his butt of in a snow cave thinking we're all being killed by the Russians

Now that would be something if he turned out to be Mills, wouldn't it? Just a quick search through his posts though it would seem at face value that he's not - at least he's always referring to Mills in the third person, such as calling him 'my friend.' Though, on the other hand, he does seem to have a very uncanny and close insider relationship with him, to the point of knowing what private conversations he's had with Julie the very day of their conversation... or being able to call his producer to try pulling some strings to get certain special guests on his show...

[brianj]

I know Kirtland's real name and it isn't Mills. If I had a phone number I would call him to ask what's up.

Returning to the GAS prophecy, today is the legal holiday for Christmas. If nothing happens today, next Saturday through Monday, or MLK weekend I am going to have three conclusions and not know which one is true. Either:
The prophecy was incorrectly remembered.
The prophecy was incorrectly interpreted.
The prophecy is not real.

I just wish I could know which one of these is the correct conclusion. I know several people here will immediately jump to the third, but they won't have any proof the other listed conclusions (or other possible conclusions) aren't correct.

[mirkwood]

I seem to recall RM indicating he was in his early 40's. Mills was quite a bit older than that.

[Still Learning]

My only conclusion is that the Lord must have delayed His coming.

[FTC]

My only conclusion is that the Lord must have delayed His coming.

Jehovah's Witnesses have already been saying that for about 100 years now.

[shadow]

I know Kirtland's real name and it isn't Mills. If I had a phone number I would call him to ask what's up.

Returning to the GAS prophecy, today is the legal holiday for Christmas. If nothing happens today, next Saturday through Monday, or MLK weekend I am going to have three conclusions and not know which one is true. Either:
The prophecy was incorrectly remembered.
The prophecy was incorrectly interpreted.
The prophecy is not real.

I just wish I could know which one of these is the correct conclusion. I know several people here will immediately jump to the third, but they won't have any proof the other listed conclusions (or other possible conclusions) aren't correct.

They're all correct in that the prophecy is incorrect :-B

I suspect Horne heard GAS say something, but how can a pre-teen remember the specifics when he never wrote them down until decades later? That's been my big issue with the supposed prophecy all along. A persons recollection of a childhood conversation is going to be lacking.

[brianj]

I suspect Horne heard GAS say something, but how can a pre-teen remember the specifics when he never wrote them down until decades later? That's been my big issue with the supposed prophecy all along. A persons recollection of a childhood conversation is going to be lacking.

How can a preteen remember the specifics when he didn't write it down? Ask Mormon. When he was 10 he was told to remember something for about a decade and a half then act on it.

[Silver]

I suspect Horne heard GAS say something, but how can a pre-teen remember the specifics when he never wrote them down until decades later? That's been my big issue with the supposed prophecy all along. A persons recollection of a childhood conversation is going to be lacking.

How can a preteen remember the specifics when he didn't write it down? Ask Mormon. When he was 10 he was told to remember something for about a decade and a half then act on it.

Just because the Book of Mormon doesn't specifically say that Mormon didn't write down the instructions given him to pick up the plates 14 years later doesn't mean he didn't. Perhaps he really didn't, but you can't prove that particular negative by the text alone. By your logic, Mormon didn't breathe any air either because there is no mention of it in his abridged record. Mormon might have had Ammaron's charge tattooed on his thigh for all we know.

[stephenj]

There are many prophecies out there about what is supposed to happen. From what I understand this is the only one that gives a specific timeline. If nothing happens by January 1st then it appears this is false. We all know something is going to happen. The only question is 'when'. Are there any other prophecies or revelations that offer a timeline like this one?

[Still Learning]

My only conclusion is that the Lord must have delayed His coming.

Jehovah's Witnesses have already been saying that for about 100 years now.

I thought that the JW's preach that it already happened. I really have no idea but I thought one told me that once.

Sorry did Bro Horne not write down his account until years later or just not make it public?

The part about the holiday doesn't appear (to my knowledge) in his original text. So I was thinking we still have a good 3+ weeks to rule this completely dead.

I never gave Mrs Rowe or Hector or any other doomsday timeline predictions a second thought but I did GAS. In fact it just baffles me how people continue to listen to these people that have multiple failures as far as timing their earthquakes and financial collapses and second comings and so on. But the GAS seemed a little more legit in my mind I guess.

No doubt once the inauguration happens it is dead. None of this... Oh Obama is actually Northern European, or it's actually the next inauguration... Blah blah blah. If he (keyword) 'saw' Mr Obama I'm sure he didn't have a DNA snapshot and mark him of as European descent. He is truly different than the rest. And I'm not trying to grasp at straws and say we have 3 weeks but I just never saw the validity in the holiday part.

The sign of the blood moons seems no coincidence to me. I figure a marker in time of sorts. And the Jupiter Virgo constellation thing seems legit. What it brings or means I have no idea. I don't expect a big event but think it is another sign and marker of time.

[davedan]

I was thinking, had the attack occured on Christmas or New Years, GAS likely would have recognized what holiday it was.

However, if the attack happens on MLK day (Jan 16), GAS wouldn't have identified the holiday because MLK day has only been a holiday since 1983.

[stephenj]

I was thinking, had the attack occured on Christmas or New Years, GAS likely would have recognized what holiday it was.

However, if the attack happens on MLK day (Jan 16), GAS wouldn't have identified the holiday because MLK day has only been a holiday since 1983.

That is something I didnt consider and it makes more sense than a Russian holiday.

[Silver]

Can every one step back and take a deep breath for a minute? Those of you have studied history know about the Cuban missile crisis. Are things now really more tense than then? No.

With all our satellite technology are we seeing any troop concentrations in Russia or China that make it appear an attack is imminent? Any military preps being undertaken by any country planning an attack on the US?

Where are our vaunted intelligence services (17 agencies in the feral gubmint alone) on tracking suspicious movement or communications?

Nothing, right?

[SouEu]

After reading through the various GAS accounts, I had a thought.

Everyone assumes that when an attack is mentioned, that Russia will attack the USA.

What if it is the other way around?

What if when an attack is mentioned, that it is the USA and NATO that attacks Russia on a holiday?

I know that the European countries have been moving troops and weapons to the Russian border. Obama has gone completely off his rocker lately and appears to be going scorched earth, trying to cause as much damage as possible before he leaves. What if Obama has plans to initiate a surprise attack against Russia, dragging us into war?

I just thought of that after reading through some of the accounts. Does it really say that it is the USA that is attacked, or is that just everyone's assumption?

[Silver]

After reading through the various GAS accounts, I had a thought.

Everyone assumes that when an attack is mentioned, that Russia will attack the USA.

What if it is the other way around?

What if when an attack is mentioned, that it is the USA and NATO that attacks Russia on a holiday?

I know that the European countries have been moving troops and weapons to the Russian border. Obama has gone completely off his rocker lately and appears to be going scorched earth, trying to cause as much damage as possible before he leaves. What if Obama has plans to initiate a surprise attack against Russia, dragging us into war?

I just thought of that after reading through some of the accounts. Does it really say that it is the USA that is attacked, or is that just everyone's assumption?

I have a son in the Marines. They aren't getting ready for anything immediate. I appreciate your concern, but you can stand down for now.

[skmo]

There are many prophecies guesses, random prognostications, and theoretical dream wishes out there about what is supposed to happen.

Fixed it for you.

[stephenj]

Have you read the Bible or D&C? "Prophecies" is correct. Julie Rowe and her friends - guesses. There are prophecies about what is supposed to happen. As far as timeline - lots of guesses. Looks tome like David Horne is one of those making guesses. Even though I don't fully believe in this supposed GAS Vision I understand it may possibly be true. This thread is for those people that, whether they believe it or not, are interested in it. To visit this page simply trying to discount it and prove other people wrong is what I believe is called being "an internet troll" or keyboard warrior. This supposed prophecy may be false and it may be true. I want base everything off it either way

[davedan]

Can every one step back and take a deep breath for a minute? Those of you have studied history know about the Cuban missile crisis. Are things now really more tense than then? No.

With all our satellite technology are we seeing any troop concentrations in Russia or China that make it appear an attack is imminent? Any military preps being undertaken by any country planning an attack on the US?

Where are our vaunted intelligence services (17 agencies in the feral gubmint alone) on tracking suspicious movement or communications?

Nothing, right?

Media says the war rhetoric between Russia and US is worse than the cold war.

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Also consider that Russia blames everything ISIS does on the US (right or wrong) and we are currently blowing each others commercial airplanes out of the sky. Russia will never admit that the latest airplane loss was terrorism because it was a military plane and that would look bad for their military. But if it was terrorism, they will blame the US and seek revenge.

[skmo]

Have you read the Bible or D&C? "Prophecies" is correct.

Apologies for not making it more clear. My previous comment does not, in any way, include the canon of scriptures. Beyond that, unless a prophet reveals a scripture from God to us, I do not believe anyone ever in my lifetime has any legitimate prophecies to reveal. I believe there are some who are liars, some who are mistaken, some who are mentally unbalanced, but otherwise I do not believe anyone has any legitimate prophecy to be revealed to us.

That's not to say I don't believe God doesn't reveal things to people. In fact, I do believe He may reveal things to individuals for their own edification or to someone with stewardship over others (a father or mother, for example) according to His wisdom. Once a person shares a "prophecy" to the public, though, I doubt them. Any time a person other than God's ordained prophet(s) shares what they believe to be a prophecy, I believe the person is mistaken or dishonest, or that they're sharing something they shouldn't. When it comes to any second-hand story (like "The prophet told me in his living room that..." for example) I believe it's a mistake at best, and possibly a lie. If God wants me to know something about the future, I'll hear it from His ordained channel or through a messenger sent by Him directly to me (such as a person who has passed away.) If someone tells me God sent them with a message, I believe they're selling something, and I'm not buying.