So why does Switzerland have so many fallout shelters?

[Benjamin_LK]

An official site for Switerland shows that apartment buildings are required by Swiss law to have Fallout Shelters, with air filtration reinforced concrete, and steel for protection from blast and radiation should a nuclear war happen. In fact, even with the Cold War "Over" they still retain this nuclear emergency system and rules in place, despite such an operation being costly. Sometimes, it makes you wonder when nations like the U.S. or plenty of European Nations don't bother with such an endeavor, yet have the bucks to throw to plenty of other programs.

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This is just one of those things where I think, wow, seems like some countries really waste their resources.

[kathyn]

Maybe the Swiss gov't knows something we don't......hmmmmm.

[Silas]

The Swiss still spend a much smaller portion of their budget on defense than the US does... yet their people are actually prepared and defended against any contingency. They spend their money on defense. The money we call "defense spending" really has nothing to with defense. It may not be necessary but at least it would help their people in an extreme situation whereas our spending will do nothing for us in an emergency.

[Benjamin_LK]

Maybe the Swiss gov't knows something we don't......hmmmmm.

Well, a little more insight can be found in the Swiss Government Statements. Just because Switzerland still holds a great deal of sovereignty and avoids a great deal of entangling alliances doesn't mean that they won't be targeted, and also means they won't avoid being hit by some of the fallout drifting from outside Switzerland. The Swiss government's reasoning is: Russia and/or the United States would target us in a nuclear war to ensure that we go down with them.

Switzerland is unique only in the sense that they are the nation that has a thorough civil defense strategy aimed at the entire populace. You can opt out of having a heavily reinforced fallout shelter in your basement, but the fines for not having one are high enough that plenty of individuals figure that adding an average of ten to fifteen thousand USD equivalent in Swiss Francs is worth the cost of equipping houses with fallout shelters, especially when you consider the fact that having a house built nowadays is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, it's a shame that the United States didn't try this as opposed to throwing money into killing a bunch of low-tech people living in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and so on. What's more is that these Swiss Fallout shelters aren't crude, they do have a contained portable power, air filtration, and air circulation, to ensure that those hiding in the Fallout shelter don't have to get stuck breathing increasingly stale air over the two weeks exclusively in shelter.

Russia and China, while they don't have the Fallout shelters to save the entire populace, they are still far more extensive. China built the "Great Underground Wall" back in the 1970s out of concerns that either the U.S. or Russia would attack the Chinese with nuclear weapons. The Great Underground Wall contains living quarters, lavatories, air filtration, and more.

The big point I have ever gotten from this whole case of minimal fallout protection in the U.S. is that McConkie was not that far off when he said that it was the power of God that will surely save us from the atomic holocaust. It's sad, but I doubt the U.S. values regular American lives all that much as some nations do.

[Paul555]

Switzerland requires that all buildings intended for human habitation be equipped with blast-resistant NBC protection since the early 1970s. New home constructions can obtain a waiver, but only if the home is within a short walking distance and if the family is able to register to the communal shelter authorities. The government heavily subsidizes the cost of a home shelter. The overall cost per citizen to sustain their world-class civil defense system is less than $40 annually. The US spent around .50 cents, and mostly paid for paper-shuffling bureaucrats. Sweden, Norway, South Korea, Finland, Singapore, Israel, Yugoslavia, Russia, China and other countries have civil defense shelter programs to one extent or another.
Americans were told the Cold War was over for some twenty years, but it now is apparent that someone forgot to tell the Russians, North Koreans, and Communist Chinese. During the last twelve years or so, Russia and China have vastly modernized and upgraded their offensive nuclear capabilities, while the US allowed its deterrent forces to pass into obsolescence. Now, with aggressive Russian provocations in the Baltics and Syria, and with North Korea ratcheting up their nuclear threat, Sweden and other countries (probably Switzerland as well) have reactivated their dormant civil defense programs and are readying public shelters.

Swiss law allows private citizens to store items in their home shelters, as long as the shelter can be emptied and made ready for use in 12 hours.

The United States, as noted by Ben, spends far more on "defense" than any other country, but little of his is aimed at actually defending the American people from nuclear or biological attack. Defecting pilots from Cuba have landed their nuclear-capable MIG 23 fighter jets at Miami international airport without the slightest protestations from American air defense forces. Terrorists can appropriate civil aircraft for use against us while NORAD is powerless to stop them. In my 2002 tour of Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD headquarters), we received a briefing by two officers, one a Canadian, and one, a US Air Force Captain. We were asked to guess how many armed fighter aircraft it would take to defend the "lower 48" states from an air-breathing attack. My guess was around 400. The captain informed us that on the morning of September 11, 2001, there were.......14 Air Force fighters, on ground alert, with a pilot on standby.....armed and fueled ready to take off and intercept a threat. None of those were available to the folks in the northeast. Air Force National Guard pilots, returning from a training mission, were "advised" to be prepared to ram the remaining Flight 93 if the chance arose. Passengers on board did more to terminate the threat than the entire Dept of Defense.

The Swiss wisely have chosen to defend their citizens from modern warfare. Their air forces are based below ground, not parked wingtip to wingtip, as the Americans still do. Americans (of which I am one) live in a suicidal denial of modern technology. As for God protecting us, LDS doctrine holds that God does not interfere in the agency of man, good or evil. This concept was reinforced at BYU when a deranged man took over an appearance by the prophet and his unarmed security detail stood helplessly nearby. A young man in the audience produced a can of OC spray and scored a solid hit on the perpetrator, and he was subdued by security. From that time on, GA s have had armed security (as they should). Divine intervention is an interesting concept to discuss at a party, but having armed security seems to have won the debate with the brethren. According to Brigham Young, you should take similar precautions yourself, as he strongly advocated being armed and having a fort. Today, the term "fort" could be interpreted as a proper shelter. Unless you live in Switzerland or Sweden, you are on your own, and should proceed accordingly. (reference Journal of Discourses, Volume 1, pages 170, 171).
The fact remains, Russia and China can launch and conclude a devastating nuclear attack on the United States in about as much time as it takes us to eat lunch. Other rogue nations can achieve a "soft kill" on the US with a single, high altitude EMP attack. We will suddenly find ourselves without any species of power, natural gas, municipal drinking water, and our supply chain will be destroyed. Recovery will take one to two decades. That's a long time to go without clean water (or ANY water) coming out of your taps, or a trip to the supermarket. You can read the open testimony of the chairman of the Congressional Commission To Assess The Threat of EMP To The United States by searching "Statement By Dr. Lowell Wood". I was privileged to meet him at annual conferences from 1988 to 2002. There are few better experts on this topic than Wood.
And that "one year supply" concept? Better think of that as a starter kit.

Stay safe.

[Z2100]

Switzerland requires that all buildings intended for human habitation be equipped with blast-resistant NBC protection since the early 1970s. New home constructions can obtain a waiver, but only if the home is within a short walking distance and if the family is able to register to the communal shelter authorities. The government heavily subsidizes the cost of a home shelter. The overall cost per citizen to sustain their world-class civil defense system is less than $40 annually. The US spent around .50 cents, and mostly paid for paper-shuffling bureaucrats. Sweden, Norway, South Korea, Finland, Singapore, Israel, Yugoslavia, Russia, China and other countries have civil defense shelter programs to one extent or another.
Americans were told the Cold War was over for some twenty years, but it now is apparent that someone forgot to tell the Russians, North Koreans, and Communist Chinese. During the last twelve years or so, Russia and China have vastly modernized and upgraded their offensive nuclear capabilities, while the US allowed its deterrent forces to pass into obsolescence. Now, with aggressive Russian provocations in the Baltics and Syria, and with North Korea ratcheting up their nuclear threat, Sweden and other countries (probably Switzerland as well) have reactivated their dormant civil defense programs and are readying public shelters.

Swiss law allows private citizens to store items in their home shelters, as long as the shelter can be emptied and made ready for use in 12 hours.

The United States, as noted by Ben, spends far more on "defense" than any other country, but little of his is aimed at actually defending the American people from nuclear or biological attack. Defecting pilots from Cuba have landed their nuclear-capable MIG 23 fighter jets at Miami international airport without the slightest protestations from American air defense forces. Terrorists can appropriate civil aircraft for use against us while NORAD is powerless to stop them. In my 2002 tour of Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD headquarters), we received a briefing by two officers, one a Canadian, and one, a US Air Force Captain. We were asked to guess how many armed fighter aircraft it would take to defend the "lower 48" states from an air-breathing attack. My guess was around 400. The captain informed us that on the morning of September 11, 2001, there were.......14 Air Force fighters, on ground alert, with a pilot on standby.....armed and fueled ready to take off and intercept a threat. None of those were available to the folks in the northeast. Air Force National Guard pilots, returning from a training mission, were "advised" to be prepared to ram the remaining Flight 93 if the chance arose. Passengers on board did more to terminate the threat than the entire Dept of Defense.

The Swiss wisely have chosen to defend their citizens from modern warfare. Their air forces are based below ground, not parked wingtip to wingtip, as the Americans still do. Americans (of which I am one) live in a suicidal denial of modern technology. As for God protecting us, LDS doctrine holds that God does not interfere in the agency of man, good or evil. This concept was reinforced at BYU when a deranged man took over an appearance by the prophet and his unarmed security detail stood helplessly nearby. A young man in the audience produced a can of OC spray and scored a solid hit on the perpetrator, and he was subdued by security. From that time on, GA s have had armed security (as they should). Divine intervention is an interesting concept to discuss at a party, but having armed security seems to have won the debate with the brethren. According to Brigham Young, you should take similar precautions yourself, as he strongly advocated being armed and having a fort. Today, the term "fort" could be interpreted as a proper shelter. Unless you live in Switzerland or Sweden, you are on your own, and should proceed accordingly. (reference Journal of Discourses, Volume 1, pages 170, 171).
The fact remains, Russia and China can launch and conclude a devastating nuclear attack on the United States in about as much time as it takes us to eat lunch. Other rogue nations can achieve a "soft kill" on the US with a single, high altitude EMP attack. We will suddenly find ourselves without any species of power, natural gas, municipal drinking water, and our supply chain will be destroyed. Recovery will take one to two decades. That's a long time to go without clean water (or ANY water) coming out of your taps, or a trip to the supermarket. You can read the open testimony of the chairman of the Congressional Commission To Assess The Threat of EMP To The United States by searching "Statement By Dr. Lowell Wood". I was privileged to meet him at annual conferences from 1988 to 2002. There are few better experts on this topic than Wood.
And that "one year supply" concept? Better think of that as a starter kit.

Stay safe.

So do you think the most of Switzerland will wait-out World War III? Switz is very smart to focus on its people and not to get into an big treaties. For America, I think that Trump needs to get all soldiers out of the Middle East and give them jobs here in America. We need to start defending ourselves. Same thing with the general population getting jobs. We'd enter another "golden age" of the economy if Trump would focus more on America, not on making deals with dictators in the ME, because some of the gov budgets he's been cutting has been really ludicrous. Help America!

[Alaris]

Switzerland requires that all buildings intended for human habitation be equipped with blast-resistant NBC protection since the early 1970s. New home constructions can obtain a waiver, but only if the home is within a short walking distance and if the family is able to register to the communal shelter authorities. The government heavily subsidizes the cost of a home shelter. The overall cost per citizen to sustain their world-class civil defense system is less than $40 annually. The US spent around .50 cents, and mostly paid for paper-shuffling bureaucrats. Sweden, Norway, South Korea, Finland, Singapore, Israel, Yugoslavia, Russia, China and other countries have civil defense shelter programs to one extent or another.
Americans were told the Cold War was over for some twenty years, but it now is apparent that someone forgot to tell the Russians, North Koreans, and Communist Chinese. During the last twelve years or so, Russia and China have vastly modernized and upgraded their offensive nuclear capabilities, while the US allowed its deterrent forces to pass into obsolescence. Now, with aggressive Russian provocations in the Baltics and Syria, and with North Korea ratcheting up their nuclear threat, Sweden and other countries (probably Switzerland as well) have reactivated their dormant civil defense programs and are readying public shelters.

Swiss law allows private citizens to store items in their home shelters, as long as the shelter can be emptied and made ready for use in 12 hours.

The United States, as noted by Ben, spends far more on "defense" than any other country, but little of his is aimed at actually defending the American people from nuclear or biological attack. Defecting pilots from Cuba have landed their nuclear-capable MIG 23 fighter jets at Miami international airport without the slightest protestations from American air defense forces. Terrorists can appropriate civil aircraft for use against us while NORAD is powerless to stop them. In my 2002 tour of Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD headquarters), we received a briefing by two officers, one a Canadian, and one, a US Air Force Captain. We were asked to guess how many armed fighter aircraft it would take to defend the "lower 48" states from an air-breathing attack. My guess was around 400. The captain informed us that on the morning of September 11, 2001, there were.......14 Air Force fighters, on ground alert, with a pilot on standby.....armed and fueled ready to take off and intercept a threat. None of those were available to the folks in the northeast. Air Force National Guard pilots, returning from a training mission, were "advised" to be prepared to ram the remaining Flight 93 if the chance arose. Passengers on board did more to terminate the threat than the entire Dept of Defense.

The Swiss wisely have chosen to defend their citizens from modern warfare. Their air forces are based below ground, not parked wingtip to wingtip, as the Americans still do. Americans (of which I am one) live in a suicidal denial of modern technology. As for God protecting us, LDS doctrine holds that God does not interfere in the agency of man, good or evil. This concept was reinforced at BYU when a deranged man took over an appearance by the prophet and his unarmed security detail stood helplessly nearby. A young man in the audience produced a can of OC spray and scored a solid hit on the perpetrator, and he was subdued by security. From that time on, GA s have had armed security (as they should). Divine intervention is an interesting concept to discuss at a party, but having armed security seems to have won the debate with the brethren. According to Brigham Young, you should take similar precautions yourself, as he strongly advocated being armed and having a fort. Today, the term "fort" could be interpreted as a proper shelter. Unless you live in Switzerland or Sweden, you are on your own, and should proceed accordingly. (reference Journal of Discourses, Volume 1, pages 170, 171).
The fact remains, Russia and China can launch and conclude a devastating nuclear attack on the United States in about as much time as it takes us to eat lunch. Other rogue nations can achieve a "soft kill" on the US with a single, high altitude EMP attack. We will suddenly find ourselves without any species of power, natural gas, municipal drinking water, and our supply chain will be destroyed. Recovery will take one to two decades. That's a long time to go without clean water (or ANY water) coming out of your taps, or a trip to the supermarket. You can read the open testimony of the chairman of the Congressional Commission To Assess The Threat of EMP To The United States by searching "Statement By Dr. Lowell Wood". I was privileged to meet him at annual conferences from 1988 to 2002. There are few better experts on this topic than Wood.
And that "one year supply" concept? Better think of that as a starter kit.

Stay safe.

So do you think the most of Switzerland will wait-out World War III? Switz is very smart to focus on its people and not to get into an big treaties. For America, I think that Trump needs to get all soldiers out of the Middle East and give them jobs here in America. We need to start defending ourselves. Same thing with the general population getting jobs. We'd enter another "golden age" of the economy if Trump would focus more on America, not on making deals with dictators in the ME, because some of the gov budgets he's been cutting has been really ludicrous. Help America!

Interesting synchornistic thread to this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45761&p=789305#p789305

In that thread, Mr. Friendsofthe speaks his mind that the beast is a coalition of countries lead by Russia to fight the whore of all the earth. We speculate that the whore is the Luciferian church, lead by these international bankers who are headquartered in .... switzerland. Moreover, Friendsofthe opines that Russia tries to kill the whore with Nuclear fire. Bunkers indeed.

Here is the mission statement for the BIS - basically a central bank for central banks. Lovely.

https://www.bis.org/about/index.htm?m=1%7C1

This is probably not a coincidence that movies / TV always talk about hiding money offshore in a swiss bank account.

[Alaris]

So do you think the most of Switzerland will wait-out World War III? Switz is very smart to focus on its people and not to get into an big treaties. For America, I think that Trump needs to get all soldiers out of the Middle East and give them jobs here in America. We need to start defending ourselves. Same thing with the general population getting jobs. We'd enter another "golden age" of the economy if Trump would focus more on America, not on making deals with dictators in the ME, because some of the gov budgets he's been cutting has been really ludicrous. Help America!

I should have added this link that someone else posted in another thread, but I believe this guy. I absolutely believe there is an elite cabal who worship Lucifer and their initiation includes victimizing children sexually or worse. The second link speaks of the BIS bank in Switzerland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRuKmxQSPSw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ZuASiI7Go

These videos were uploaded very recently. Then the Pope's number 2 guy is nabbed. This is not a coincidence. Stuff is going down.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aust ... SKBN19K021