When you talk about Kirkland that is the time that God the Father came and the Temple look like it was on fire. You have a lot of good information but a little off. I have been studying the signs of the time for a while and found some information that might clear thing up.pjbrownie wrote:The way to understand the Second Coming is revealed in Matthew 24 when his disciples asked about it. After discussing the events that would occur immediately after his death and resurrection, and the details of the Great Apostasy, he states:
What this means is that Second Coming is a process. The concerns of Joseph Smith are illustrated over this is Bushman's biography. Preceding the Kirtland era, Joseph Smith's revelations were apocalyptic and millennial. There was a great concern that the Second Coming would be imminent, and that the building of the temple would initiate this wonderful event. Indeed, it did, for Christ came suddenly to His temple. The appearance at Kirtland signaled the first events of the Second Coming, "a light of the morning coming out of the east." This is the first evidence of dawn. Furthermore, after this event, Joseph's mind seemed quieted by the imminence of the Second Coming and he turned his attention towards Zion--the building up of Zion in preparation for the larger work of the restoration, the building of of the Kingdom of God upon earth in preparation for the larger events of His coming.26 For as the light of the morning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west, and covereth the whole earth, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
Christ in essence, comes several times.
1. The Kirtland Temple
2. Appearances to those who are prepared
3. Appearance at Adam Ondi Ahman
4. Appearance at the Zion temple similar to the appearance at the Bountiful temple in the Book of Mormon
5. Appearance to the Jews at the Mount of Olives
6. Coming in Glory to the whole earth
These events compromise the Second Coming, a light that rises our of the east going to the west until it fills the whole earth.
NGL's analysis appears correct to me. Trumps equal judgments--they may equal other things--but they are the arm of the Lord falling upon the nations--not a subtle event. You have a trump sounding loud and long, not subtle and long, followed by a period of quiet, then more judgments. This is the simplest explanation I can see and it's backed up by apostolic opinion on the matter.
NGL, I think what I've discovered here is the timing of the appearances of Christ at 3 and 4. They have always seemed a bit fluid to me, but now it seems to me that the AOA appearance is at the conclusion of the sixth seal, the sign of the Coming of the Son of Man, and the included trump judgment. Then you have the period of silence--the building up of Zion and the missionary work of the 144,000--then the appearances at the NJ temple and the start of the seven judgments accompanied by the first resurrection.
This is OUR Second Coming, is the one in which we have to do. Read the Book of Mormon and it will tell you. The coming to the Jews is for the Jews and the coming in Glory is really for folks like the Chinese. Our Coming is meant to come after a sign in the heavens and a series of calamities.
There is no discrepancy.
1 Appearance is Adam ondi Ahman which the Keys of the Priesthood will be handed from Adam to Christ and that will be the opening of the Seventh Seal.
2 Appearance is New Jerusalem where the temple will be built and after that, the gathering of the ten tribes will begin.
3 Appearance is Armageddon where Christ will come and Save the Jews and only 1/3 will be saved and the others will be killed.
4 Appearance is the Coming of the Savior in his Glory.
Here are a few Scriptures for you to look at.
1 Appearance: Daniel 7:9-10, 13-14. HC. J SMITH 3: 386-87, JD, O PRATT 17: 187-89,
2 Appearance: 3 Nephi 20: 22, 3 Nephi 21: 23-26, Jacob 5: 63-64, D&C 42: 36, ect.
3 Appearance: Ezekiel 39: 21-22, Ezekiel 48: 35, Zech 12: 9-11, Zech 13: 6,9, Zech 14: 4-5. D&C 45: 47-53, etc
4 Appearance: Matt 24: 36, Mark 13: 32, Acts 1: 11, Isaiah 63: 1-5, 1 Thes 4: 16-17, etc.
These scriptures are to help you get started and hopefully they will help. The meeting at Adam ondi Ahman will be not known by the world and most of the saints will not know only those who have been invited. The world will be at war and destruction will be here before the Seventh Seal will be open. Pray and stay close to the Lord and remember the 10 virgins that 5 were ready and 5 werent. The General Authority were talking about the saints.