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JR's Memory

Postby EmmaLee » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:44 pm

Well, thank goodness she's not paranoid or anything. It does strike me as odd that she doesn't even remember what she's said herself - maybe SHE should go back and listen to/read the things she's said. :-? It's just plain comical at this point.

An email rec'd this weekend -

Have You Heard????
by Julie Rowe

Have you heard???
"My cousins's son's friends' brother's mother said that Julie Rowe said that the earthquake was imminent"
"What's imminent?"
"Two days."
"Did she say two days?"
"I heard she said it was coming tomorrow."
"Well I heard she said it was coming in a week."
"I heard she has predicted it eight times and every time she gets it wrong"
"I heard she said it was in the Spring."
I heard she said it was in the fall"
"I heard she said the earthquake would be in Utah"
"Well I heard California"
"I heard she was talking about the Madrid"
"Well, what has she said about it?"'
"I don't know. I just read it on facebook. My mom's sister's aunt's cousin's dog heard her on the radio and he said she said it is coming soon. Like next year."
"Then why did she say Imminent? Isn't that like a couple of days? or a couple of weeks!!? I think she is just crazy!"

Fact Check for my friends: Listen to my actual words. All of them. Listen to the actual radio shows. Read the actual books. Read my actual words on my website. Listen to my podcasts. Look up the definition of Imminent. The Lord's time is not our time.

A word to my friends who are spreading false accusations, lies and rumors: I hold no malice. I want only the best for you. I use humor because it is healthy. I hope you hear me when I say this: [hmm... I thought the LORD said those things, but maybe it was in fact Julie Rowe. Here's a couple of other good ones she should read - JST MATTHEW 7: 1-2, Moroni 7, and https://www.lds.org/ensign/1999/08/judg ... g?lang=eng ]

Matthew 15: "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man, but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

Luke 6:37 "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven."

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby AI2.0 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:14 pm

Julie's protests only work for those who haven't actually read or listened to her much. She did say imminent and then when pressed, said 'any day'. It's not our fault it didn't happen the way she clearly thought it would. She has attempted to predict earthquakes which have not happened, that's not our fault. She needs to stop blaming others for her miscalculations and if she wants to continue to put herself and her supposed 'gifts' up for public scrutiny, she'd better expect public scrutiny. The victim act is getting tiresome.
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Re: JR's Memory

Postby capctr » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:59 pm

No, no, not "victim"-attention whore of all the earth.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:50 pm

I didn't realise this woman was still around.
Thought she had crawled under a rock somewhere.
She should definitely do that.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby JohnnyL » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:24 pm

Whoops, thought this was about "Dallas", after the shooting...

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby Silver Pie » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:45 pm

JohnnyL wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:24 pm
Whoops, thought this was about "Dallas", after the shooting...
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Re: JR's Memory

Postby cyclOps » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm

Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby brlenox » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm

cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm
Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.


Julie Who???


Matthew 7:22-23

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby cyclOps » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:23 pm

brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm
Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.


Julie Who???


Matthew 7:22-23

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So you're handing down her final judgement here or what? I'm not supporting her false predictions or prophecies, but I can still see God's love for her.

Thanks for referring us to Matthew 7. Let's start at the beginning of the chapter.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby brlenox » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:26 pm

cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:23 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm
Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.


Julie Who???


Matthew 7:22-23

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So you're handing down her final judgement here or what? I'm not supporting her false predictions or prophecies, but I can still see God's love for her.

Thanks for referring us to Matthew 7. Let's start at the beginning of the chapter.
Does a monocular viewpoint also interfere with having a sense of humor? :D If you think about it, it was a pretty clever bit of entertainment...sorry you couldn't SEE that.
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Re: JR's Memory

Postby brlenox » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:30 pm

cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:23 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm
Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.


Julie Who???


Matthew 7:22-23

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So you're handing down her final judgement here or what? I'm not supporting her false predictions or prophecies, but I can still see God's love for her.

Thanks for referring us to Matthew 7. Let's start at the beginning of the chapter.
OR sometimes I just like to say things that get Lizzy all tensed up. :-ss Doesn't seem to have much of a sense of humor either...

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby brlenox » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:50 pm

cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:23 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm
Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.


Julie Who???


Matthew 7:22-23

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So you're handing down her final judgement here or what? I'm not supporting her false predictions or prophecies, but I can still see God's love for her.

Thanks for referring us to Matthew 7. Let's start at the beginning of the chapter.

Cycl0ps - Matthew 7 - that's a great idea...let's see ummmmm...

Oh my I SEE why this chapter is so meaningful to you...
Matthew 7:3-4

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
All this talk about an "eye" - This set of verses probably speaks to you in a very special way.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby cyclOps » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:54 pm

brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:26 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:23 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm
Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.


Julie Who???


Matthew 7:22-23

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So you're handing down her final judgement here or what? I'm not supporting her false predictions or prophecies, but I can still see God's love for her.

Thanks for referring us to Matthew 7. Let's start at the beginning of the chapter.
Does a monocular viewpoint also interfere with having a sense of humor? :D If you think about it, it was a pretty clever bit of entertainment...sorry you couldn't SEE that.
I must be dense because I didn't get the joke and I still don't get it. I've got a dry sense of humor usually.

As long as we can all get along. I am just trying harder lately to love others more for who they are eternally, not who I see them as from my limited and short-term view.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby cyclOps » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:56 pm

brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:50 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:23 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm
Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.


Julie Who???


Matthew 7:22-23

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So you're handing down her final judgement here or what? I'm not supporting her false predictions or prophecies, but I can still see God's love for her.

Thanks for referring us to Matthew 7. Let's start at the beginning of the chapter.

Cycl0ps - Matthew 7 - that's a great idea...let's see ummmmm...

Oh my I SEE why this chapter is so meaningful to you...
Matthew 7:3-4

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
All this talk about an "eye" - This set of verses probably speaks to you in a very special way.
Haha now that's a joke I can get without thinking about it! Good one. Actually that's sort of where the username came from, just not those verses. Think Doctrine & Covenants.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby brlenox » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:56 pm

OF course Matthew 7 kind of speaks to me too....
Matthew 7:15

15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby cyclOps » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:57 pm

brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:56 pm
OF course Matthew 7 kind of speaks to me too....
Matthew 7:15

15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Look everyone, we're Matthew 7 twinners.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby brlenox » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:11 pm

cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:54 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:26 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:23 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm




Julie Who???



So you're handing down her final judgement here or what? I'm not supporting her false predictions or prophecies, but I can still see God's love for her.

Thanks for referring us to Matthew 7. Let's start at the beginning of the chapter.
Does a monocular viewpoint also interfere with having a sense of humor? :D If you think about it, it was a pretty clever bit of entertainment...sorry you couldn't SEE that.
I must be dense because I didn't get the joke and I still don't get it. I've got a dry sense of humor usually.

As long as we can all get along. I am just trying harder lately to love others more for who they are eternally, not who I see them as from my limited and short-term view.
Really, it just kills a joke to have to explain it but...let's SEE... hmmm...I'm not very good with humor anyway but here goes

3 Jews walk into a bar mitsvah A doctor, a lawyer, and a carpenter

The three were talking to each other about the end of the times.
When the Doctor says to the lawyer and the carpenter did you hear Julie Rowe's latest prophecy on the end of the world?
and then the Carpenter says "Julie who?" because he knew her not.

I know it's cheesy but I'm just trying to give some context to the image that popped in my head when you asked what would they say...
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Re: JR's Memory

Postby brlenox » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:21 pm

cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:56 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:50 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:23 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:06 pm




Julie Who???



So you're handing down her final judgement here or what? I'm not supporting her false predictions or prophecies, but I can still see God's love for her.

Thanks for referring us to Matthew 7. Let's start at the beginning of the chapter.

Cycl0ps - Matthew 7 - that's a great idea...let's see ummmmm...

Oh my I SEE why this chapter is so meaningful to you...
Matthew 7:3-4

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
All this talk about an "eye" - This set of verses probably speaks to you in a very special way.
Haha now that's a joke I can get without thinking about it! Good one. Actually that's sort of where the username came from, just not those verses. Think Doctrine & Covenants.

I'm going for one of these two:
Doctrine and Covenants 4:5

5 And faith, hope, charity and love, with an eye single to the glory of God, qualify him for the work.
If it was me I think I could only maim myself for this promise:
Doctrine and Covenants 88:67

67 And if your eye be single to my glory, your whole bodies shall be filled with light, and there shall be no darkness in you; and that body which is filled with light comprehendeth all things.
So, this may seem awfully personal but I wonder, Did your eye offend you?
Matthew 18:9

9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby cyclOps » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:35 pm

brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:21 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:56 pm
brlenox wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:50 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:23 pm


So you're handing down her final judgement here or what? I'm not supporting her false predictions or prophecies, but I can still see God's love for her.

Thanks for referring us to Matthew 7. Let's start at the beginning of the chapter.

Cycl0ps - Matthew 7 - that's a great idea...let's see ummmmm...

Oh my I SEE why this chapter is so meaningful to you...
Matthew 7:3-4

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
All this talk about an "eye" - This set of verses probably speaks to you in a very special way.
Haha now that's a joke I can get without thinking about it! Good one. Actually that's sort of where the username came from, just not those verses. Think Doctrine & Covenants.

I'm going for one of these two:
Doctrine and Covenants 4:5

5 And faith, hope, charity and love, with an eye single to the glory of God, qualify him for the work.
If it was me I think I could only maim myself for this promise:
Doctrine and Covenants 88:67

67 And if your eye be single to my glory, your whole bodies shall be filled with light, and there shall be no darkness in you; and that body which is filled with light comprehendeth all things.
So, this may seem awfully personal but I wonder, Did your eye offend you?
Matthew 18:9

9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Arrrg matey.

What a thing 88:67 is, eh?

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby freedomforall » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:40 pm

cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm
Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.
Shut up?
GUESS WHO

REALITY...IS NOTHING MORE THAN FANTASY IN ACTION.

To the very best of my recollection...I don't remember!

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby cyclOps » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:36 pm

freedomforall wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:40 pm
cyclOps wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:00 pm
Keep it classy guys. I wonder what God and Jesus would say about our sister, Julie Rowe.
Shut up?
God can make people mute if he wants to, priest or anti-christ, but he hasn't done so to Julie.... so I'd say probably not.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby capctr » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:43 am

I wonder if there was a one-eyed gent, who told the nephites to not be so mean to Korihor?

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby thisisspartaaa » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:25 am

JR is purposely being deceptive. It's a no win argument.

JR says it's imminent and any day now. She ties this to "Gods timeline." So any day and imminent can mean whatever she wants.

It allows her to give a voice of "warning" without attaching any specific timeline.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby freedomforall » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:08 pm

How many people that follow her, ie, read everything she writes, or hangs on every word she utters, desire with all their heart that she were accurate?

How many members read scriptures and follow the counsel given therein?

How many times have we heard that attempting to put a time line on events is futile?

Joel 2
28 ¶ And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

your sons and your daughters shall prophesy....is JR one who prophesy's? Does her misses count?

your young men shall see visions:....is JR one of these young men? Or are women included in this statement?

At what point do we put credence on someones vision(s) or dream(s)?

I say JR has lost all credibility by now. Yet, she remains a hot topic. Strange.
GUESS WHO

REALITY...IS NOTHING MORE THAN FANTASY IN ACTION.

To the very best of my recollection...I don't remember!

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby Gage » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:27 pm

freedomforall wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:08 pm
How many people that follow her, ie, read everything she writes, or hangs on every word she utters, desire with all their heart that she were accurate?

How many members read scriptures and follow the counsel given therein?

How many times have we heard that attempting to put a time line on events is futile?

Joel 2
28 ¶ And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

your sons and your daughters shall prophesy....is JR one who prophesy's? Does her misses count?

your young men shall see visions:....is JR one of these young men? Or are women included in this statement?

At what point do we put credence on someones vision(s) or dream(s)?

I say JR has lost all credibility by now. Yet, she remains a hot topic. Strange.

I thought the "afterward" meant after a lot of destruction and sifting the people will then see visions and prophesy.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby iWriteStuff » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:32 pm

freedomforall wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:08 pm

I say JR has lost all credibility by now. Yet, she remains a hot topic. Strange.
I spend a lot of time on the road driving to and from work. I've seen a lot of car accidents. And yet it never ceases to amaze me how traffic can be backed up for miles as people slow down to gawk at the next one. It's like they can't look away. I see this as no different, honestly.

I read the first two books, listened to the radio interviews, even got dragged into one of the revival meetings. The deeper in I got, the less convincing it became. I tried to see if the Spirit would testify of her witness at the meeting, but the only thing that came back was "Well, SHE believes it. Doesn't make it true." That's when I bailed.

And yet some of the people with whom I attended the meeting are still convinced. Some moved to Idaho to get ahead of the "coming disasters" and such. But for me, every time I hear her I am less and less convinced of her visions and more convinced she needs help.
"The interesting thing about our age is that not many people are really fooled – we are going into perdition with our eyes open; the separation of the tares and the wheat is to be strictly a free-will affair."

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby Older/wiser? » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:08 pm

iWriteStuff wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:32 pm
freedomforall wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:08 pm

I say JR has lost all credibility by now. Yet, she remains a hot topic. Strange.
I spend a lot of time on the road driving to and from work. I've seen a lot of car accidents. And yet it never ceases to amaze me how traffic can be backed up for miles as people slow down to gawk at the next one. It's like they can't look away. I see this as no different, honestly.

I read the first two books, listened to the radio interviews, even got dragged into one of the revival meetings. The deeper in I got, the less convincing it became. I tried to see if the Spirit would testify of her witness at the meeting, but the only thing that came back was "Well, SHE believes it. Doesn't make it true." That's when I bailed.

And yet some of the people with whom I attended the meeting are still convinced. Some moved to Idaho to get ahead of the "coming disasters" and such. But for me, every time I hear her I am less and less convinced of her visions and more convinced she needs help.
Well I can tell you if they moved to Idaho to get ahead of the "coming disasters" they are going to sadly disappointed, I have a slight understanding of a few coming things to our area (Idaho). It's like standing at the base of Niagara and thinking you can avoid getting wet.

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Postby DesertWonderer » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:23 pm

Older/wiser? wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:08 pm
Well I can tell you if they moved to Idaho to get ahead of the "coming disasters" they are going to sadly disappointed, I have a slight understanding of a few coming things to our area (Idaho). It's like standing at the base of Niagara and thinking you can avoid getting wet.
What specifically do you mean by this and by what means did you come to this information?

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby PressingForward » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:01 pm

Older/wiser? wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:08 pm

Well I can tell you if they moved to Idaho to get ahead of the "coming disasters" they are going to sadly disappointed, I have a slight understanding of a few coming things to our area (Idaho). It's like standing at the base of Niagara and thinking you can avoid getting wet.
Yes, inquiring minds want to know what "a few coming things" are coming to Idaho.

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Re: JR's Memory

Postby Older/wiser? » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:55 pm

I don't want to be classified as a dreamer , or any of the stuff that comes with , I am not involved with groups sharing dreams and visions, never have been. Never looked at an avow website, so what I was shown or experienced was for me. It was before we moved to Idaho that I experienced this and we lived here for several years before I realized this was the place that the things happened. I don't look for a call out, didn't see tent cities. I am sceptical about alot of things. I did experience the terror of the mobs and saw a few other things in the Heavens. My point was Idaho will not escape the cleansing, if they moved to Idaho for safety they may as well go to Jackson and save the long walk.


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