Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

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Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby 96walker » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:17 pm

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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

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I was actually born in Vladivostok. So much for visiting there...
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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby GrandMasterB » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:48 pm

Dasvidaniya Zhirnyy Kim!
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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby Elizabeth » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:53 am

Having been born there, what are your feelings on the present situations?
Z2100 wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:05 pm
I was actually born in Vladivostok. So much for visiting there...
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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby Silver » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:56 am

GrandMasterB wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:48 pm
Dasvidaniya Zhirnyy Kim!
Жирный is fat, no?
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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby Z2100 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:07 am

Elizabeth wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:53 am
Having been born there, what are your feelings on the present situations?
Z2100 wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:05 pm
I was actually born in Vladivostok. So much for visiting there...

1. The Russian buildup on the North Korean border is very serious (and very scary).

2. If nuke sites are destroyed, then radiation will Reach Vladivostok and cause a mass evacuation.

3. The radiation cloud could stay in Vladivostok for a long time (3 years, perhaps? I hope not).

4. It's safe to say that another Korean war is coming our way, and millions of innocent people will die.

5. I don't think anyone would want to travel to the general area of North Korea/China/Russia to avoid hardships
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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby Z2100 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:09 am

GrandMasterB wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:48 pm
Dasvidaniya Zhirnyy Kim!
Ха-ха
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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby Sandinista » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm

Z2100 wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:07 am
Elizabeth wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:53 am
Having been born there, what are your feelings on the present situations?
Z2100 wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:05 pm
I was actually born in Vladivostok. So much for visiting there...

1. The Russian buildup on the North Korean border is very serious (and very scary).

2. If nuke sites are destroyed, then radiation will Reach Vladivostok and cause a mass evacuation.

3. The radiation cloud could stay in Vladivostok for a long time (3 years, perhaps? I hope not).

4. It's safe to say that another Korean war is coming our way, and millions of innocent people will die.

5. I don't think anyone would want to travel to the general area of North Korea/China/Russia to avoid hardships
Just because you destroy a "nuke site" doesn't mean you get a massive radiation release. When you take out a nuke site, whether it b3e a weapon, weapon facility, or power plant, you are essentially blowing up the components of the nuclear equation, not creating a nuclear explosion itself. In order to achieve a nuclear explosion with the accompanying radiation release you have to have a very carefully timed sequence of events and actions. That's why most nations do not have nuclear weapons; the technology to build them is beyond their reach. Destroying a power plant, weapons factory, or weapon itself may result in a conventional explosion and the spreading around of nuclear fuel/weapon components which are radioactive, but not a nuclear reaction. You may get a small amount of radiation similar to what happen at Chernobyl when that went sown, bit it is relatively localized and won't spread like the radiation released by a nuclear explosion/reaction in the atmosphere.

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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby h_p » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:37 pm

The radiation map of Chernobyl looks pretty disastrous to me. Not sure I'd be using that as an example to allay people's fears.

http://www.mappery.com/maps/Chernobyl-radiation-Map.jpg

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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby GrandMasterB » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:59 pm

Silver wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:56 am
GrandMasterB wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:48 pm
Dasvidaniya Zhirnyy Kim!
Жирный is fat, no?
Indeed it is!
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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby JohnnyL » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:40 pm

Sandinista wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm
Z2100 wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:07 am
Elizabeth wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:53 am
Having been born there, what are your feelings on the present situations?
Z2100 wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:05 pm

I was actually born in Vladivostok. So much for visiting there...

1. The Russian buildup on the North Korean border is very serious (and very scary).

2. If nuke sites are destroyed, then radiation will Reach Vladivostok and cause a mass evacuation.

3. The radiation cloud could stay in Vladivostok for a long time (3 years, perhaps? I hope not).

4. It's safe to say that another Korean war is coming our way, and millions of innocent people will die.

5. I don't think anyone would want to travel to the general area of North Korea/China/Russia to avoid hardships
Just because you destroy a "nuke site" doesn't mean you get a massive radiation release. When you take out a nuke site, whether it b3e a weapon, weapon facility, or power plant, you are essentially blowing up the components of the nuclear equation, not creating a nuclear explosion itself. In order to achieve a nuclear explosion with the accompanying radiation release you have to have a very carefully timed sequence of events and actions. That's why most nations do not have nuclear weapons; the technology to build them is beyond their reach. Destroying a power plant, weapons factory, or weapon itself may result in a conventional explosion and the spreading around of nuclear fuel/weapon components which are radioactive, but not a nuclear reaction. You may get a small amount of radiation similar to what happen at Chernobyl when that went sown, bit it is relatively localized and won't spread like the radiation released by a nuclear explosion/reaction in the atmosphere.
Chernobyl and Fukushima were/ are hardly "a small amount of radiation", and that's just one site each.

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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby Sandinista » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:02 am

JohnnyL wrote:
Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:40 pm
Sandinista wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm
Z2100 wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:07 am
Elizabeth wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:53 am
Having been born there, what are your feelings on the present situations?


1. The Russian buildup on the North Korean border is very serious (and very scary).

2. If nuke sites are destroyed, then radiation will Reach Vladivostok and cause a mass evacuation.

3. The radiation cloud could stay in Vladivostok for a long time (3 years, perhaps? I hope not).

4. It's safe to say that another Korean war is coming our way, and millions of innocent people will die.

5. I don't think anyone would want to travel to the general area of North Korea/China/Russia to avoid hardships
Just because you destroy a "nuke site" doesn't mean you get a massive radiation release. When you take out a nuke site, whether it b3e a weapon, weapon facility, or power plant, you are essentially blowing up the components of the nuclear equation, not creating a nuclear explosion itself. In order to achieve a nuclear explosion with the accompanying radiation release you have to have a very carefully timed sequence of events and actions. That's why most nations do not have nuclear weapons; the technology to build them is beyond their reach. Destroying a power plant, weapons factory, or weapon itself may result in a conventional explosion and the spreading around of nuclear fuel/weapon components which are radioactive, but not a nuclear reaction. You may get a small amount of radiation similar to what happen at Chernobyl when that went sown, bit it is relatively localized and won't spread like the radiation released by a nuclear explosion/reaction in the atmosphere.
Chernobyl and Fukushima were/ are hardly "a small amount of radiation", and that's just one site each.
Totally different scenario. I've been involved in the manufacturer, delivery, destruction, and management of nuclear weapons for 45 years. What was posted about the dangers of taking out North Korea's nuclear capability, if indeed they do have one, is simply not true.

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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby DesertWonderer » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:00 am

The Church has not removed missionaries from SK--I'm not too worried.

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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby JohnnyL » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:30 am

Sandinista wrote:
Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:02 am
JohnnyL wrote:
Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:40 pm
Sandinista wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm
Z2100 wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:07 am

1. The Russian buildup on the North Korean border is very serious (and very scary).

2. If nuke sites are destroyed, then radiation will Reach Vladivostok and cause a mass evacuation.

3. The radiation cloud could stay in Vladivostok for a long time (3 years, perhaps? I hope not).

4. It's safe to say that another Korean war is coming our way, and millions of innocent people will die.

5. I don't think anyone would want to travel to the general area of North Korea/China/Russia to avoid hardships
Just because you destroy a "nuke site" doesn't mean you get a massive radiation release. When you take out a nuke site, whether it b3e a weapon, weapon facility, or power plant, you are essentially blowing up the components of the nuclear equation, not creating a nuclear explosion itself. In order to achieve a nuclear explosion with the accompanying radiation release you have to have a very carefully timed sequence of events and actions. That's why most nations do not have nuclear weapons; the technology to build them is beyond their reach. Destroying a power plant, weapons factory, or weapon itself may result in a conventional explosion and the spreading around of nuclear fuel/weapon components which are radioactive, but not a nuclear reaction. You may get a small amount of radiation similar to what happen at Chernobyl when that went sown, bit it is relatively localized and won't spread like the radiation released by a nuclear explosion/reaction in the atmosphere.
Chernobyl and Fukushima were/ are hardly "a small amount of radiation", and that's just one site each.
Totally different scenario. I've been involved in the manufacturer, delivery, destruction, and management of nuclear weapons for 45 years. What was posted about the dangers of taking out North Korea's nuclear capability, if indeed they do have one, is simply not true.
If it's meant that destroying a nuke site means the warheads will blow up, his/ her comment would be incorrect. If it meant setting off a non-explosive reaction/ melt-down, like Chernobyl or Fukushima, but on a much larger scale with lots of radioactive material?

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Re: Massive Russian Build Up at North Korean Border

Postby AI2.0 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:06 pm

We live in uncertain times, that's for sure.

This could be the beginnings of war or it could be posturing and it'll cool down.

But, since I'm not in a position to do anything about it, I'll not waste a lot of time worrying over it. And, as Desertwonderer pointed out, if the church hasn't removed missionaries from the area, it's still considered safe. The church is pretty careful with missionaries.
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