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And what about the cattle in Nevada being slaughtered and buried in hastily dug holes by the BLM?
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dconrad000 wrote:PREVENT THE SEVERING OF THE REMAINING THREAD

Here is one simple thing that would prevent the severing of the remaining thread, by which the Constitution is now hanging:


Oath keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey (9:12 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zztaj2AFiy8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keepers.)


A Word From Sheriff Richard Mack (7:38 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keeper Sheriff Richard Mack.)


Please consider forwarding this by e-mail to all your contacts -- especially to any in law enforcement or in the military.

May God bless patriots everywhere, and the Constitutional Republic of these United States.
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Amen Brother!

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Benjamin Harrison wrote:Amen Brother!
Ditto!



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It is becoming increasingly clear to me that the members of the First Presidency and at least some of the Apostles are "quite disgusted about what is going on in this country" and feel that "the Constitution has not become less, but more, important in our day." Among other indications of this is that in May 2014 Elder Dallin Oaks stated in an interview with on KSL NewsRadio in Salt Lake City, "I see it as a responsibility for well-educated citizens, members of the bar and opinion leaders to be acquainted with the United States Constitution and its guarantees." http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/e ... -newsradio" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

We have had two recent stake firesides just in the last 3 weeks in our area on the US Constitution, another scheduled for later this month, and two more in the planning stages. All told, there have been about six such firesides in the greater Phoenix area. To give you an idea of what it took to get them going, the promoter wrote me: "As you know, it took me nearly a year to get the first fireside in place. I spent hours and hours meeting with stake presidents, high councilmen, and bishops to convince them of my presentation. It was also important for them that I illustrate my awareness of the church's tax exempt status and the importance of not delving into political matters. At this point, I am really focusing on finding people that I know who have relationships with those in positions of authority. I am finding that is half the battle. My presentation to the various leaders includes a written outline of the presentation as well as a review of the powerpoint that I use. Looking back, once the first stake president "pulled the trigger," I rallied all of the other leaders to come and observe. The domino effect started from there."

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I'm not sure if people in the western and free world realise how important it is for the constitution to be fought for. If America goes down (and this is the goal of it's enemies) it is the end of the free world. The only reason the UK is free, the only reason Australia (where I live) is free and the only reason New Zealand, Ireland, and every western country in the world is free is because the Lord raised up a nation which, as prophesied, has become the most powerful in the world. Trevor Louden put it this way,

"If America goes down economically, it will go down militarily. If it goes down militarily, it is game over for the free world."

That is the importance of saving and preserving the constitution.

How do you think our enemies are going with reference to Trevors statement?

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What thread?

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The thread is there but it is not easy to see. I am the thread. I will not be controlled by oppressive government. There are others who are also refusing to be controlled. They are collectively the thread.

Be the thread. :)

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Has anyone read this before? We sometimes talk about why the people in this country are so apathetic and how it is that we might be able to get them to stand up to tyranny and fight for the constitutional blessings we've enjoyed for so many years.
Now we read here that even though we finally get off our duffs and do something that we still almost lose the battle, but are rescued by some LDS patriots.
What is your take on this? Do you think this is, or could be a true scenario?:

Mosiah Hancock

[According to Brother Hancock, the Prophet Joseph Smith told him,] The United States will spend her strength and means warring in foreign lands until other nations will say, “Let’s divide up the lands of the United States,” then the people of the U.S. will unite and swear by the blood of their fore-fathers, that the land shall not be divided. Then the country will go to war, and they will fight until one half of the U.S. army will give up, and the rest will continue to struggle. They will keep on until they are very ragged and discouraged, and almost ready to give up—when the boys from the mountains will rush forth in time to save the American Army from defeat and ruin. And they will say, “Brethren, we are glad you have come; give us men, henceforth, who can talk with God.” Then you will have friends, but you will save the country when its liberty hangs by a hair, as it were. (Life Story of Mosiah Lyman Hancock, 19-20)

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freedomforall wrote:Has anyone read this before? We sometimes talk about why the people in this country are so apathetic and how it is that we might be able to get them to stand up to tyranny and fight for the constitutional blessings we've enjoyed for so many years.
Now we read here that even though we finally get off our duffs and do something that we still almost lose the battle, but are rescued by some LDS patriots.
What is your take on this? Do you think this is, or could be a true scenario?:

Mosiah Hancock

[According to Brother Hancock, the Prophet Joseph Smith told him,] The United States will spend her strength and means warring in foreign lands until other nations will say, “Let’s divide up the lands of the United States,” then the people of the U.S. will unite and swear by the blood of their fore-fathers, that the land shall not be divided. Then the country will go to war, and they will fight until one half of the U.S. army will give up, and the rest will continue to struggle. They will keep on until they are very ragged and discouraged, and almost ready to give up—when the boys from the mountains will rush forth in time to save the American Army from defeat and ruin. And they will say, “Brethren, we are glad you have come; give us men, henceforth, who can talk with God.” Then you will have friends, but you will save the country when its liberty hangs by a hair, as it were. (Life Story of Mosiah Lyman Hancock, 19-20)
I have been aware of this prophecy and have been seeing it fulfilled. It is in Duane Crowther's book "Prophecy: Key to the Future".

There are other similar prophecies that say the Constitution will be saved by the Elders of this church, and some have interpreted that to mean the Brethren. Personally I feel it will be up to lay members to be educated regarding these principles as many previous prophets have exhorted us to do.

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Original_Intent wrote:
freedomforall wrote:Has anyone read this before? We sometimes talk about why the people in this country are so apathetic and how it is that we might be able to get them to stand up to tyranny and fight for the constitutional blessings we've enjoyed for so many years.
Now we read here that even though we finally get off our duffs and do something that we still almost lose the battle, but are rescued by some LDS patriots.
What is your take on this? Do you think this is, or could be a true scenario?:

A source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/17135331/Jose ... ted-States" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mosiah Hancock

[According to Brother Hancock, the Prophet Joseph Smith told him,] The United States will spend her strength and means warring in foreign lands until other nations will say, “Let’s divide up the lands of the United States,” then the people of the U.S. will unite and swear by the blood of their fore-fathers, that the land shall not be divided. Then the country will go to war, and they will fight until one half of the U.S. army will give up, and the rest will continue to struggle. They will keep on until they are very ragged and discouraged, and almost ready to give up—when the boys from the mountains will rush forth in time to save the American Army from defeat and ruin. And they will say, “Brethren, we are glad you have come; give us men, henceforth, who can talk with God.” Then you will have friends, but you will save the country when its liberty hangs by a hair, as it were. (Life Story of Mosiah Lyman Hancock, 19-20)
I have been aware of this prophecy and have been seeing it fulfilled. It is in Duane Crowther's book "Prophecy: Key to the Future".

There are other similar prophecies that say the Constitution will be saved by the Elders of this church, and some have interpreted that to mean the Brethren. Personally I feel it will be up to lay members to be educated regarding these principles as many previous prophets have exhorted us to do.
It's really sad that we as a country of blessed people from the Lord will wait until its almost too late before finally standing up to that that we should have been doing four decades ago...and this is keeping the Constitution alive. Now we have to wait until the spider almost has us wrapped in a cocoon before waking up and finally struggling to get free. Now only blood will restore freedom, not the replacement of politicians. With so much corruption who would we vote for anyway? People have forgotten what freedom really is, and it isn't programs and policies geared to plunder and destroy one part of society in order to build up another.
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Latter-day Saints have an advantage over all other people on the planet in that we have the prophetic warnings of the 'secret combinations' and the Gadianton Robbers taking over the complete control of government. To my mind, that requires Latter-day Saints to do something about "Our Awful Situation" brought on by Latter-day Gadianton Robbers. Most non-Mormons don't have a clue what is meant by these terms from the Book of Mormon, but they very much need to know what is written and meant by them. And that goes double for members of the LDS Church. As Ether 8:16 says: 'And they [secret combinations] were kept up by the power of the devil to administer these oaths unto the people, to keep them in darkness, to help such as sought power to gain power, and to murder, and to plunder, and to lie, and to commit all manner of whoredoms....."

I believe the Lord will hold us accountable for upholding and suffering the secret combination to have gotten above us. I also believe He does reveal their acts and their purposes to those who sincerely seek to know about them. And he also opens our minds to ways in which we may be effective in combatting their influence if we but awake to a sense of our awful situation and strive to identify them and oppose them.

I have discussed the relative silence on the subjects of our sacred duty to honour the Constitution and to honour freedom with enuf people whom I consider "in the know" that I have concluded that many Church leaders are afraid of two things: 1.) fear of causing controversy and contention among members, and 2.) fear of antagonizing powerful people who are seeking to undo our constitutional republic and replace it with a socialist dictatorship and ultimately a global government.

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I have discussed the relative silence on the subjects of our sacred duty to honour the Constitution and to honour freedom with enuf people whom I consider "in the know" that I have concluded that many Church leaders are afraid of two things: 1.) fear of causing controversy and contention among members, and 2.) fear of antagonizing powerful people who are seeking to undo our constitutional republic and replace it with a socialist dictatorship and ultimately a global government
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I think this is true. Not only with Church leaders, but all aspects of our current society. The key word is fear. It is so effective. Think of the Officer on the side of the freeway. One simple car can completely petrify drivers.... All it takes is one person to see and slam on the brakes, and the whole freeway is now alert and scared. Even if you weren't speeding, you will check your speed, and perhaps slow down below the limit, just to be sure. Sure is nice. Sure is comfortable, and safe.

The status quo is moving into the Orwellian realms and humans are embracing it. I personally see things these days that absolutely blow my mind, and ask myself if it gets any worse, are we going to be able to rely on law enforcement to back citizens over their superiors? My guess is that only a small minority are willing to sacrifice their job security to defend freedom. I think this is the same across the board. Federal Employees are going to choose their paycheck for as long as it is possible to draw one..... Fear of loss of job is powerful, even to the extent that the military will defend corruption. It pains me to say that, as I come from a long line of patriotic servicemen., but I think the writing is on the proverbial wall, or lack thereof (IE southern border).

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I like the idea of the Oath Keepers. I'm afraid though, that it has become a magnet for trigger happy maniacs. Who decide what is and isn't Constitutional all by themselves, and then deputize themselves to enforce it at the point of a gun. Not a good combination.

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I believe that the organization is more inclined to attract calm, constitutionally minded people.
dconrad000 wrote:...reposting initial post...

dconrad000 wrote:PREVENT THE SEVERING OF THE REMAINING THREAD

Here is one simple thing that would prevent the severing of the remaining thread, by which the Constitution is now hanging:


Oath keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey (9:12 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zztaj2AFiy8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keepers.)


A Word From Sheriff Richard Mack (7:38 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keeper Sheriff Richard Mack.)


Please consider forwarding this by e-mail to all your contacts -- especially to any in law enforcement or in the military.

May God bless patriots everywhere, and the Constitutional Republic of these United States.




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I have started taking serious the idea that it will be Elders of Israel who step forward and do what it takes to save the Constitution -- Not High Priests -- however you want to interpret that.

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KMCopeland wrote:I like the idea of the Oath Keepers. I'm afraid though, that it has become a magnet for trigger happy maniacs. Who decide what is and isn't Constitutional all by themselves, and then deputize themselves to enforce it at the point of a gun. Not a good combination.
You mean anyone who is willing to stand up to tyranny? Those who refuse to let a tyrannical government come and take their guns away? Those willing to defend their families, their lives, their homes, their religion, their liberty and freedom...you mean these kinds of trigger happy maniacs? Or is it the one's that sound out: "Give me liberty or give me death"?

Then we have those who refuse to own a gun, nor wants anyone to have one.
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freedomforall wrote:
KMCopeland wrote:I like the idea of the Oath Keepers. I'm afraid though, that it has become a magnet for trigger happy maniacs. Who decide what is and isn't Constitutional all by themselves, and then deputize themselves to enforce it at the point of a gun. Not a good combination.
You mean anyone who is willing to stand up to tyranny?
Can you give me an example? Of standing up to tyranny with a gun?
freedomforall wrote:Those who refuse to let a tyrannical government come and take their guns away?
So let's say this tyrannical government you're so afriad of shows up and wants your gun. How would you prevent them from getting it?
freedomforall wrote:Those willing to defend their families, their lives, their homes, their religion, their liberty and freedom...you mean these kinds of trigger happy maniacs?
Those kinds are usually not trigger happy maniacs.
freedomforall wrote:Then we have those who refuse to own a gun
They still have that right. I hope.
freedomforall wrote:nor wants anyone to have one.
There are those people. They don't have a chance however, of getting their wish.

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As usual I listened to all sessions of conference for any admonition from the Brethren that we should do anything to "PREVENT THE SEVERING OF THE REMAINING THREAD", and heard nothing of the sort. Maybe I missed something. Anybody else hear anything ?

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As usual, I heard some admonitions to read the Book of Mormon and get in tune with the Spirit. I am confident that those that follow those admonitions will be directed towards doing the right things at the right time with respect to that.

For more information on that topic, I would direct the reader here:

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lundbaek wrote:As usual I listened to all sessions of conference for any admonition from the Brethren that we should do anything to "PREVENT THE SEVERING OF THE REMAINING THREAD", and heard nothing of the sort. Maybe I missed something. Anybody else hear anything ?
Wouldnt it be nice to have Ezra Taft Benson speak once again. But it order to be a Mormon or a Moroni we need to be a people of great faith, faith in Christ, students of the scriptures, obedient to the commandments. That's what I heard the speakers ask us to be. When we have that spiritual strength and courage we can "prevent the severing of the remaining thread". Else we will perish from our wickedness.

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lundbaek wrote:As usual I listened to all sessions of conference for any admonition from the Brethren that we should do anything to "PREVENT THE SEVERING OF THE REMAINING THREAD", and heard nothing of the sort. Maybe I missed something. Anybody else hear anything ?
Probably because it is already severed.

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