PREVENT THE SEVERING OF THE REMAINING THREAD

[lundbaek]

Re. a proposed Article V Constitutional Convention, the John Birch Society very recently released the following statement:

Three Reasons to Oppose All State Article V Convention Applications

There's a very important issue that is becoming more and more prominent in state legislatures in recent years. It goes by several names, such as an Article V convention, a constitutional convention (often abbreviated as a Con-Con), a convention of the states, or a convention for proposing amendments. All of these terms refer to a provision in Article V of the U.S. Constitution whereby if two-thirds of the states apply to Congress for a national convention for proposing amendments, then Congress shall call such a convention.

The stakes are very high with this Article V convention issue! Will we preserve and restore the Constitution that has secured our rights for over two centuries? Or, will we subject it to the Article V convention process and risk harmful changes that very well could end our heritage of freedom and prosperity?

First, we'll review the history of the Article V convention movement. Then, we'll discuss the three reasons why we should oppose all Article V convention applications. Click on the graphic at left for more resources regarding this issue.

An Article V convention is the second method provided in the Constitution for proposing amendments. The first method is for both Houses of Congress to approve a proposed amendment by at least a two-thirds vote. Once an amendment is proposed by either method, Article V prescribes that such a proposed amendment be sent to the states for ratification, with Congress having the option to mandate ratification by either the state legislatures or by special state conventions. In either case, three-fourths of the states must ratify a proposed amendment before it can be added to the Constitution.

Twenty-seven amendments have been added to the Constitution since 1787. All of them have been added via the first method (congressional proposal), and none have been added by the second method (convention proposal).

Although there have been sporadic applications from states for an Article V constitutional convention ever since the early days of our constitutional republic, there was a real flurry of applications to hold a convention for proposing a balanced budget amendment (BBA) in the 1970s and early 1980s. By the time that there were 32 state BBA convention applications (two short of the required two-thirds), a reaction occurred in the 1980s that first stalled the BBA convention movement at 32 states, then began influencing states to rescind (take back) their BBA convention applications, based on a well-founded fear that such a convention could become a "runaway convention" that could lead to harmful changes in the Constitution.

By 2011, sixteen states had rescinded their BBA convention applications, leaving only sixteen states with "live" BBA convention applications. However, in recent years some states that had rescinded their applications have reapplied for a BBA convention, and some new states have approved BBA convention applications, giving us a current total of 24 states with "live" BBA convention applications.

There are also other initiatives to apply for an Article V convention, such as for proposing amendments to limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, or for proposing an amendment to limit the terms of congressmen, or for proposing an amendment to reverse the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision concerning corporate campaign donations, etc.

Now, let's get back to the three reasons why we must oppose all Article V convention applications at this time in our nation's history. (For a fuller discussion of the three reasons, read "A Fairy Tale That Could Destroy Our Nation.")

1. The Constitution is not the problem.
We must correct all those Article V convention proponents who constantly refer to the need to rein in our "out-of-control" government. What we are actually facing is an "out-of-compliance-with-the-Constitution" government. Therefore, the Constitution is not the problem, so changing the Constitution with an Article V convention is not the solution. The only true solution, as daunting as it may appear, is a large-scale, grassroots, constitutional education program that would inform the electorate sufficiently to demand adherence to the Constitution from their representatives. Without such an informed electorate, no form of constitution, whether our current Constitution, a revised Constitution, or a completely rewritten constitution, will work.

2. All Article V conventions would have the inherent power to be runaway conventions.
To their great credit, most state legislators have voted down most Article V convention applications over the past thirty years, based on their belief that such a convention could easily become a "runaway convention" that could make harmful changes to the Constitution. In truth, all Article V conventions would have the inherent power to be "runaway conventions" that could propose harmful revisions to the Constitution as well as provide for new methods for ratification that would increase the likelihood that the harmful revisions would be adopted.

Such conventions would consolidate the inherent powers of a free people, whose right "to alter or abolish" our government is described in the Preamble of the Declaration of Independence:
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Based on this right as proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence coupled with the precedent of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, an Article V constitutional convention would therefore be empowered to rewrite the Constitution without any limit on its action. In this sense such a convention would be superior to Congress, the Executive Branch, and Supreme Court, or any state legislature as well.

3. An Article V convention would enable powerful special interests to revise the Constitution in their favor.
A Rasmussen poll of 1,000 likely voters conducted April 15-16, 2014 found that 67% "view the federal government today as a special interest group that looks out primarily for its own interests." What this poll result indicates is that about two-thirds of likely voters believe that special interests now control our federal government.

Which is to say that it is a fairly widely shared belief that our government is controlled by powerful special interest groups, such as Big Business, Big Labor, Big News Media, the Education Establishment, Foundations, Internationalist Foreign Policy Organizations, Big Political Donors, etc. It is these special interest groups that over the last century or so have influenced public officials to usurp powers not granted in the Constitution.

Proponents of an Article V convention assure us that delegates appointed by state legislatures can propose amendments, the amendments can be ratified by the states, and the resulting amendments will miraculously rein in our "out-of-control" federal government. This starry-eyed scenario is a major fairy tale. Not only do special interests have working control over the federal government, they also have powerful influence over state legislatures. The power elites mentioned above have learned how to elect and influence large numbers of federal and state legislators a very long time ago. You don't believe it? Just try working with other grassroots activists to stop the special interests' Common Core education standards juggernaut in your state, and see how far you get! For a striking example of the pervasive influence of special interests on state legislatures, read "Not-so-smart ALEC," posted by TheNewAmerican.com, April 21, 2014.

Since powerful special interest groups have such extensive influence over the federal and state levels of government, the most likely result of one or more Article V conventions would be changes in the Constitution that legitimize the myriad usurpations of power that have already taken place in the service of the special interests. This would make it all the harder for We the People to ever regain control of the government from the special interests and secure our God-given rights.

What is absolutely necessary is to energize and inform enough citizens to turn this situation around. In order to secure our freedom, we must create an informed electorate that will roll back the power of the special interests by electing federal and state representatives who will enforce the Constitution as originally intended by the Founding Fathers.

The solution is restoration of the Constitution's limitations on the federal government, not Article V conventions that all too likely would enable special interests to rewrite the Constitution in their favor.

We can't allow an unrealistic fairy tale solution to the very real problem of our out-of-compliance-with-the-Constitution government to lead to the sacrifice of the Constitution on the alter of the special interests that have created the problem in the first place.

Please send a prewritten, editable message to your state representative(s) and senator in opposition to all Article V convention applications. Be sure to personalize your message for maximum impact.

Phone calls can also be very effective, and of course the most effective way to educate your state legislators is by making personal visits to their offices. Click here for contact information.

Thanks.

Your Friends at The John Birch Society

[freedomforall]

The Americans Who Risked Everything: the signers of the Declaration of Independence

[lundbaek]

And some of them lost everything, including wives, children and property.

[freedomforall]

And some of them lost everything, including wives, children and property.

And now there are people expecting government to give them these things and more. The little, tiny children, however, may have come from a test tube or a clinic because either couples couldn't afford the cost of forced, socialistic healthcare, or the gov. was not allowing women to keep less than completely normal, healthy babies that would later benefit society. Isn't there something written about this practice some place?

[dconrad000]

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[KMCopeland]

What is the remaining thread exactly?

[Jason]

What is the remaining thread exactly?

Franchise or right to vote....pretty thin though as that certainly doesn't guarantee that its counted right...

[KMCopeland]

What is the remaining thread exactly?

Franchise or right to vote....pretty thin though as that certainly doesn't guarantee that its counted right...

Okay. I get that. I even agree with it.

[dconrad000]

Speaking on a national basis, not a local basis -- voting hasn't counted much for some time, as the modern-day-secret-combination has most often owned both horses in the race. Additionally, the corrupt, Diebold electronic voting system has eroded even the public's ability to choose which of those two owned horses of the false left right paradigm to put in.

Rather, I think the final thread by which our constitution is hanging would be broken when our own military is kicking in our doors -- and hauling us away to internment camps, forced vaccinations and executions.

That's why I think a strong-enough Oath Keeper's movement, and enough courageous and enlightened county sheriffs could prevent that remaining thread from being severed. Tyranny always has a military, that is willing to enforce it.

[Jason]

What is the remaining thread exactly?

Franchise or right to vote....pretty thin though as that certainly doesn't guarantee that its counted right...

Okay. I get that. I even agree with it.

Thats good...

You and I have heard all our lives that the time may come when the Constitution may hang by a thread. I do not know whether it is a thread, or a small rope by which it now hangs, but I do know that whether it shall live or die is now in the balance.

- J. Reuben Clark, Jr., Conference Report, October 1942, p. 58

Our great Constitution has been beaten and torn until now it hangs by a single thread, and that thread is our franchise to vote.

-Ezra Taft Benson, 1976, Freeman Institute, Provo, Utah

Under a government subject to the voice of the people, the ultimate responsibility for laws, and therefore for determining when it is proper to kill a person, jail him, or take from him his property, rests directly on the voting citizen. There is no other place to rest the credit or blame for what is done in the name of government.

The central problem of government, is a religious one, and anyone who assumes that he can form his political beliefs without consulting his ethics, which have their basis in religious conviction, is deceiving himself either about the true nature of government, or his moral responsibility for its actions.

Equally fatal to freedom is the ignorance or indifference of the voting majority. Unless they perceive with clarity that line which divides right from wrong in government action, and resist with firmness any attempt to cross it, the natural tendency of men to abuse power will cause those in office to enlarge their functions until liberty is crushed under the weight of bureaucratic despotism.

Therefore a nation must not only remain moral to remain free, but it must also be alert and informed. Furthermore the people must have a standard by which to distinguish with precision those functions which preserve freedom from those which destroy it. The standard which is used must be widely known, universally acceptable to moral people, and easily applied.

- Verlan Anderson book Many Are Called But Few Are Chosen

First and foremost, we must be righteous
Second, we must learn the principles of the Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers
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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free … it expects what never was and never will be

- Thomas Jefferson Letter to Colonel Charles Yancey, 6 Jan. 1816

We have no government armed with the power capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and true religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

- John Adams, The Changing Political Thought of John Adams, Howe, p. 189

Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.

- Samuel Adams

When the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the “Mormon” elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it.

– Brigham Young, JD 2:182, February 18, 1855, Latter Day Prophets Speaks. Pg. 230

When the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the “Mormon” elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it.

– Brigham Young, JD 2:182, February 18, 1855, Latter Day Prophets Speaks. Pg. 230

When the people shall have torn to shreds the Constitution of the United States, the elders of Israel will be found holding it up to the nations of the earth and proclaiming liberty and equal rights to all men and extending the hand of fellowship to the oppressed of all nations. This is part of the program and as long as we do what is right and fear God He will help us and stand by us under all circumstances.

– John Taylor, JD 21:8, August 31, 1879

Brethren and sisters, let me say in closing that we have it of record, that the prophet Joseph Smith said the time will come when, through secret organizations taking the law into their own hands, not being governed by law or by due process of law, but becoming a law unto themselves, when, by those disintegrating activities, the Constitution of the United States would be so torn and rent asunder, and life and property and peace and security would be held of so little value, that the Constitution would, as it were, hang by a thread. But he never said, so far as I have heard, that that thread would be cut. I believe, with Elder Richards, that this Constitution will be preserved, but it will be preserved very largely in consequence of what the Lord has revealed and what this people, through listening to the Lord and being obedient, will help to bring about, to stabilize and give permanency and effect to the Constitution itself. That also is our mission. That also is what we are here for. I glory in it. I praise god with all my heart and soul that I am a member of it.

- Charles W. Nibley, Conference Report, October 1923, p. 62

It is no wonder that the Prophet Joseph said—even though he knew he would suffer martyrdom in this land—“The Constitution of the United States is a glorious standard; it is founded in the wisdom of God. It is a heavenly banner.”

Yet, according to his contemporaries, he foresaw the time when the destiny of the nation would be in danger and would hang as by a thread. Thank God he did not see the thread break. He also indicated the important part that this people should yet play in standing for the principles embodied in these sacred documents—the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

- Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, April 1948, p. 85

The Lord's comments on the establishment of a king or dictatorship upon this promised land -

But behold, this land, said God, shall be a land of thine inheritance, and the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the land.

And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles, and there shall be no kings upon the land, who shall raise up unto the Gentiles.

And I will fortify this land against all other nations.

And he that fighteth against Zion shall perish, saith God.

For he that raiseth up a king against me shall perish, for I, the Lord, the king of heaven, will be their king, and I will be a light unto them forever, that hear my words.

Wherefore, for this cause, that my covenants may be fulfilled which I have made unto the children of men, that I will do unto them while they are in the flesh, I must needs destroy the secret works of darkness, and of murders, and of abominations.

Wherefore, he that fighteth against Zion, both Jew and Gentile, both bond and free, both male and female, shall perish; for they are they who are the whore of all the earth; for they who are not for me are against me, saith our God.

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[KMCopeland]

Speaking on a national basis, not a local basis -- voting hasn't counted much for some time, as the modern-day-secret-combination has most often owned both horses in the race. Additionally, the corrupt, Diebold electronic voting system has eroded even the public's ability to choose which of those two owned horses of the false left right paradigm to put in.

Rather, I think the final thread by which our constitution is hanging would be broken when our own military is kicking in our doors -- and hauling us away to internment camps, forced vaccinations and executions.

So you disagree with the idea that the remaining thread is the vote?

That's why I think a strong-enough Oath Keepers movement, and enough courageous and enlightened county sheriffs could prevent that remaining thread from being severed. Tyranny always has a military, that is willing to enforce it.

Aren't the Oath Keepers all former military or police? As in, not necessarily the "elders of Israel?" Who are supposed to be the ones to save the Constitution when it is hanging by a thread?

And (sorry for all the questions) is the premise of the Oath Keepers that when the president sends troops after the American people, they will be the ones who fight back?

[dconrad000]

In my view, preventing the severing of the remaining thread is not the same as restoring or saving the constitution. For now, I'll just settle for the final thread not being severed. The saving or restoring of the constitution will not happen until after the cleansing of America. The righteous remnant will then restore liberty to the land.

[dconrad000]

The Oath Keepers is largely a movement within the active members of the military and police. See the video in the initial post of the thread.

[KMCopeland]

What is the remaining thread exactly?

Franchise or right to vote....pretty thin though as that certainly doesn't guarantee that its counted right...

Okay. I get that. I even agree with it.

Thats good...

"You and I have heard all our lives that the time may come when the Constitution may hang by a thread. I do not know whether it is a thread, or a small rope by which it now hangs, but I do know that whether it shall live or die is now in the balance." - J. Reuben Clark, Jr., Conference Report, October 1942

J. Reuben Clark said that in 1942, and here we are in 2015, still hanging.

The Lord's comments on the establishment of a king or dictatorship upon this promised land -

"But behold, this land, said God, shall be a land of thine inheritance, and the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the land.

And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles, and there shall be no kings upon the land, who shall raise up unto the Gentiles.

And I will fortify this land against all other nations.

And he that fighteth against Zion shall perish, saith God.

For he that raiseth up a king against me shall perish, for I, the Lord, the king of heaven, will be their king, and I will be a light unto them forever, that hear my words."

I take it you think we have a king?

[KMCopeland]

The Oath Keepers is largely a movement within the active members of the military and police. See the video in the initial post of the thread.

But my point is that they are not elders in Israel. The prophecy says that the Constitution will be saved by the elders in Israel. Not the Oath Keepers.

[dconrad000]

In my view, preventing the severing of the remaining thread is not the same as restoring or saving the constitution. For now, I'll just settle for the final thread not being severed. The saving or restoring of the constitution will not happen until after the cleansing of America. The righteous remnant will then restore liberty to the land.

[Jim Kelley]

A Word From Sheriff Richard Mack (7:38 min)

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I know Richard Mack to be a man of consistent principled integrity. I have spoken with him on many occasions. It needs to be clearly understood by people everywhere that the Elite only have the power over the people that the people themselves grant to them, and stop giving it to them. The way to beat this system is for the people, police, military and everybody else to simply stop agreeing to it.

Here is another thing we need to do, although I haven’t yet found any unity on this issue. We need to withdraw our participation in these phony elections, organize constitutional elections, and form a new government. Not only is that our right, it is our responsibility.

"It is [our] right, it is [our] duty, to throw off such Government" (Second paragraph, The Declaration Of Independence).

Duty is a strong word and implies Duty to God and Country.

There is not "any unity on this issue" anywhere, even in The True Church that has The Gift Of The Holy Ghost. What is wrong with that picture?

Bro. Jim

[Jim Kelley]

The Oath Keepers is largely a movement within the active members of the military and police. See the video in the initial post of the thread.

But my point is that they are not elders in Israel. The prophecy says that the Constitution will be saved by the elders in Israel. Not the Oath Keepers.

May I respectfully submit there is not much documentation on this prophecy. May I quote Elder Orson Hyde:

On January 3, 1858, in the Tabernacle, Salt Lake City, Elder Orson Hyde stated during his address, referring to the many false claims circulating at that time by the Mormon people that the Mormon Prophet Joseph Smith claimed Mormons would save The U.S. Constitution, Elder Hyde stated, “I believe he said something like this—that the time would come when the Constitution and the country would be in danger of an overthrow; and said he, If the Constitution be saved at all, it will be by the Elders of this Church.” (Journal Of Discourses Vol. 6, page 152).

That may be a big "if."

It seems Elder Orson Hyde, who personally knew The Prophet Joseph and had personally heard The Prophet speak on this subject, had his doubts if Joseph ever said The Constitution would be saved.

One thing is for sure. Until the Elders of Israel stand up and do something positive out in the open they have no chance to save The Constitution.

How many Mormons voted for President B.O. who is a known enemy of The Constitution?

Senator Harry Reid is a known enemy of The Constitution and he is still officially considered a member in good standing with a temple recommend.

It seems to me The Church has a lot of internal house cleaning to do before they have any moral authority to march off and save The Constitution.

Brother Jim

[dconrad000]

...reposting this from the previous page...

I appreciate your comments, guys. Thank you.

I think the final thread gets broken when our military is kicking down your door, and hauling you off to an internment camp. That's why I think the Oathkeeper's movement is so important and could help at least prevent the severing of that final thread.

...reposting the opening post, here.

PREVENT THE SEVERING OF THE REMAINING THREAD

Here is one simple thing that would prevent the severing of the remaining thread, by which the Constitution is now hanging:


Oath keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey (9:12 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zztaj2AFiy8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keepers.)


A Word From Sheriff Richard Mack (7:38 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keeper Sheriff Richard Mack.)


Please consider forwarding this by e-mail to all your contacts -- especially to any in law enforcement or in the military.

May God bless patriots everywhere, and the Constitutional Republic of these United States.

[freedomforall]

A Word From Sheriff Richard Mack (7:38 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I know Richard Mack to be a man of consistent principled integrity. I have spoken with him on many occasions. It needs to be clearly understood by people everywhere that the Elite only have the power over the people that the people themselves grant to them, and stop giving it to them. The way to beat this system is for the people, police, military and everybody else to simply stop agreeing to it.

Here is another thing we need to do, although I haven’t yet found any unity on this issue. We need to withdraw our participation in these phony elections, organize constitutional elections, and form a new government. Not only is that our right, it is our responsibility.

"It is [our] right, it is [our] duty, to throw off such Government" (Second paragraph, The Declaration Of Independence).

Duty is a strong word and implies Duty to God and Country.

There is not "any unity on this issue" anywhere, even in The True Church that has The Gift Of The Holy Ghost. What is wrong with that picture?

Bro. Jim

My feelings exactly. Americans, as usual have thrown out the very thing that could have allowed us to not get this far down in the sewer. Americans have destroyed America just as President Benson declared.
He also stated that it will take blood to get freedom back.

Someone asked if it will only be LDS people that will go forth and save the Constitution. Let's find out.

Charles W. Nibley
I believe as the Prophet Joseph has written, that the day would come when there would be so much of disorder, of Appendix 1—More Statements Concerning The Constitution secret combinations taking the law into their own hands, tramping upon Constitutional rights and the liberties of the people, that the Constitution would hang as by a thread.
Yes, but it will still hang, and there will be enough of good people, many who may not belong to our Church at all, people who have respect for law and for order, and for Constitutional rights, who will rally around with us and save the Constitution. I have never read that that thread would be cut. It will hang; the Constitution will abide and this civilization, that the Lord has caused to be built up, will stand fortified through the power of God, by putting from our hearts all that is evil, or that is wrong in the sight of God, by our living as we should live, acceptable to him. (October 1922, General Conference)

Joseph F. Merrill
Brethren and sisters, our free America, the America of our fathers, is gravely in danger, not from enemies without but from enemies within. It is the duty of all Latter-day Saints, living under the stars and stripes, as well as of all loyal citizens, to forget their petty differences and their ignoble personal selfishness, and rally to her support. This may best be done by holding inviolate the Charter of our liberties the Constitution of the United States and all good laws made in harmony therewith…. (April 1940, General Conference)

Another tidbit:
The apostasy from America’s governing charter has become so glaringly obvious, even a late night television comedian quipped in 2005: “The United States [is] putting together a Constitution now…for Iraq. You know, why don’t we just give ‘em ours? I mean, think about it. It’s served us well for over 200 years, and we don’t appear to be using it anymore.” Such a joke easily evokes laughter from a studio audience. However, once the humor fades, the remark betrays the state of affairs that characterize our nation’s political institutions today.
Americans have been immensely blessed under this inspired constitutional system of government given to us by God. Therefore, it is sobering to consider that the vast majority of Americans—including many Latter-day Saints—have forsaken most of the principles from our nation’s charter. Those who advocate strict adherence to it are looked upon as quaint, out of touch, backwards, or adhering to a system from a bygone era. Many Americans find themselves completely incapable of living by the principles of limited government under a Republic, and much like the Nephites of old, cannot “be governed by the law nor justice, save it [would be] to their destruction”
(Helaman 5:3).

[freedomforall]

...reposting this from the previous page...

I appreciate your comments, guys. Thank you.

I think the final thread gets broken when our military is kicking down your door, and hauling you off to an internment camp. That's why I think the Oathkeeper's movement is so important and could help at least prevent the severing of that final thread.

...reposting the opening post, here.

PREVENT THE SEVERING OF THE REMAINING THREAD

Here is one simple thing that would prevent the severing of the remaining thread, by which the Constitution is now hanging:


Oath keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey (9:12 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zztaj2AFiy8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keepers.)


A Word From Sheriff Richard Mack (7:38 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keeper Sheriff Richard Mack.)


Please consider forwarding this by e-mail to all your contacts -- especially to any in law enforcement or in the military.

May God bless patriots everywhere, and the Constitutional Republic of these United States.

Does anyone know just how strong the membership is within Oathkeepers? Is there enough to even make a dent in the defense of liberty?
And will these oathkeepers throughout the country defend the rights, of the people they serve, to keep their guns when the order comes out to confiscate them? Will they inform those they serve as to the order having been given so the people can prepare for it? Because the robots coming after your guns will shoot first and then take names. And they come without any warning and bust in you door before you even have a chance to figure out what is happening. This is how chicken---- they are. It would behoove people to set up neighborhood watches and even have a siren set up so unaware folks can at least put on some pants.

Wake up America! Obama Readies Military for Domestic Gun Confiscation!


Obama explains the FEMA Camps What a guy! :ymdevil:

[Jason]

"But behold, this land, said God, shall be a land of thine inheritance, and the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the land.

And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles, and there shall be no kings upon the land, who shall raise up unto the Gentiles.

And I will fortify this land against all other nations.

And he that fighteth against Zion shall perish, saith God.

For he that raiseth up a king against me shall perish, for I, the Lord, the king of heaven, will be their king, and I will be a light unto them forever, that hear my words."

I take it you think we have a king?

No clue how you drew that conclusion out of that...

[KMCopeland]

The Oath Keepers is largely a movement within the active members of the military and police. See the video in the initial post of the thread.

I would much rather ask questions in a format such as this, about the Oath Keepers, of those of you who seem knowledgeable about it, than watch a 20 minute video. Naturally you are free not to bother answering my questions of course. But I'm only mildly curious about the Oath Keepers. I would never spend that much time watching a video about them. Reading is much faster.

[KMCopeland]

"But behold, this land, said God, shall be a land of thine inheritance, and the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the land.

And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles, and there shall be no kings upon the land, who shall raise up unto the Gentiles.

And I will fortify this land against all other nations.

And he that fighteth against Zion shall perish, saith God.

For he that raiseth up a king against me shall perish, for I, the Lord, the king of heaven, will be their king, and I will be a light unto them forever, that hear my words."

I take it you think we have a king?

No clue how you drew that conclusion out of that...

From the part that said "he that raiseth up a king against me," etc., and then that part in the huge blue letters. But no, you didn't actually say that. So I do apologize.

[Jason]

No clue how you drew that conclusion out of that...

From the part that said "he that raiseth up a king against me," etc., and then that part in the huge blue letters. But no, you didn't actually say that. So I do apologize.

No worries mate!