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PREVENT THE SEVERING OF THE REMAINING THREAD

Here is one simple thing that would prevent the severing of the remaining thread, by which the Constitution is now hanging:


Oath keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey (9:12 min)

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link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zztaj2AFiy8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keepers.)


A Word From Sheriff Richard Mack (7:38 min)

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link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(If you have any trouble with the link, go to youtube.com and in their search window type the phrase, Oath Keeper Sheriff Richard Mack.)


Please consider forwarding this by e-mail to all your contacts -- especially to any in law enforcement or in the military.

May God bless patriots everywhere, and the Constitutional Republic of these United States.





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http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/Voting.htm

“Our great Constitution has been beaten and torn until now it hangs by a single thread, and that thread is our franchise to vote.” (Ezra Taft Benson, 1976, Freeman Institute, Provo, Utah)

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SwissMrs&Pitchfire wrote:http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/Voting.htm

“Our great Constitution has been beaten and torn until now it hangs by a single thread, and that thread is our franchise to vote.” (Ezra Taft Benson, 1976, Freeman Institute, Provo, Utah)
...yes...and of course that single thread is now much thinner and more fragile, still...especially since the false-flag terror event of 9/11, in the name of security, has been used as an excuse to further assault our Constitutional rights -- almost into oblivion.

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...don't know about the rest of you...but I've watched the above Oath Keepers video a few times, now; and every time I do, it makes my heart burn within me...and just about brings a tear to my eye...and I have the thought, "Now those people (who refuse to obey those orders) are REAL PATRIOTS".

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SwissMrs&Pitchfire wrote:http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/Voting.htm

“Our great Constitution has been beaten and torn until now it hangs by a single thread, and that thread is our franchise to vote.” (Ezra Taft Benson, 1976, Freeman Institute, Provo, Utah)
Mighty slim thread indeed...

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/0 ... e-contrac/

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm

http://www.nogw.com/download/_07_diebol ... nators.pdf

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ja ... rities.htm
April 28, 2004—Voters can run, but they can't hide from these guys. Meet the Urosevich brothers, Bob and Todd. Their respective companies, Diebold and ES&S, will count (using both computerized ballot scanners and touchscreen machines) about 80 percent of all votes cast in the upcoming U.S. presidential election.

Both ES&S and Diebold have been caught installing uncertified software in their machines. Although there is no known certification process that will protect against vote rigging or technical failure, it is a requirement of most, if not all, states.

And, according to author Bev Harris in her book, Black Box Voting, " . . . one of the founders of the original ES&S (software) system, Bob Urosevich, also oversaw development of the original software now used by Diebold Election Systems."

Talk about putting all our eggs in one very bogus, but brotherly basket.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/04 ... andes.html

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2006/11/die ... ocumentary

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish ... 2810.shtml

http://motherjones.com/politics/2004/05/paperless-chase

http://theragblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/ ... is-up.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/diebold-adm ... otice.html

http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2006/0 ... diebo.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/diebold-sel ... r-ess.html

http://www.nogw.com/download/2006_diebo ... entary.pdf

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish ... 1206.shtml

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/0 ... audit-logs

http://www.nogw.com/download/2006_fl_diebold_picks.pdf

http://www.nogw.com/download/2006_rfk_j ... iebold.pdf

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“Will the Constitution be destroyed? No; it will be held inviolate by this people; and, as Joseph Smith said, ‘the time will come when the destiny of the nation will hang upon a single thread. At this critical juncture, this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction.’ It will be so.” (Journal of Discourses 7:15 (1854)
“In connection with the attack on the United States, the Lord told the Prophet Joseph Smith there would be an attempt to overthrow the country by destroying the Constitution. Joseph Smith predicted that the time would come when the Constitution would hang as it were by a thread, and at that time, ‘this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction.’ It is my conviction that the Elders of Israel, widely spread over the nation, will, at that crucial time, successfully rally the righteous of our country and provide the necessary balance of strength to save the institutions of Constitutional government. Now is the time to get ready.” (Conference Reports-10/61:70)

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dconrad000 wrote:A Word From Sheriff Richard Mack (7:38 min)

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link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60
I know Richard Mack to be a man of consistent principled integrity. I have spoken with him on many occasions. It needs to be clearly understood by people everywhere that the Elite only have the power over the people that the people themselves grant to them, and stop giving it to them. The way to beat this system is for the people, police, military and everybody else to simply stop agreeing to it.

Here is another thing we need to do, although I haven’t yet found any unity on this issue. We need to withdraw our participation in these phony elections, organize constitutional elections, and form a new government. Not only is that our right, it is our responsibility.

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Toto wrote:
dconrad000 wrote:A Word From Sheriff Richard Mack (7:38 min)

(If the link does not open, copy/paste it into your internet browser and click enter.)

link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60
I know Richard Mack to be a man of consistent principled integrity. I have spoken with him on many occasions. It needs to be clearly understood by people everywhere that the Elite only have the power over the people that the people themselves grant to them, and stop giving it to them. The way to beat this system is for the people, police, military and everybody else to simply stop agreeing to it.

Here is another thing we need to do, although I haven’t yet found any unity on this issue. We need to withdraw our participation in these phony elections, organize constitutional elections, and form a new government. Not only is that our right, it is our responsibility.
The existing government has to be removed first.

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ithink wrote:The existing government has to be removed first.
It’s not the supposed government that concerns me. It’s the American people! How can you get rid of the existing government if the People are so ignorant and apathetic you can’t even organize a valid election?

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You get rid of the bad people too, or rather let them get rid of each other whilst ye stand in holy places.

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Re. that statement that "It is my conviction that the Elders of Israel, widely spread over the nation, will, at that crucial time, successfully rally the righteous of our country and provide the necessary balance of strength to save the institutions of Constitutional government. Now is the time to get ready.”

The Elders of Israel have got a lot of getting ready to do. Ignorance and apathy are rampant in the Church.

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The Elders of Israel have got a lot of getting ready to do. Ignorance and apathy are rampant in the Church.
I agree Lundbaek. I have been called recently as the stake Sunday school president and part of my duty is to help the members to be instructed both in church and in the home. As I have pondered how to fullfill this duty, I thought of this scripture:

Hosea 4: 6
6 ¶ My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

We learn that when we study and learn by the spirit we are converted to true principles and in turn our behavior changes and repentance is brought forth. We also know that satan can decieve us when we are ignorant, hence the people get destroyed by choosing crooked paths in all endeavors thus leading to said destruction.

I have had the distinct impression to recommend some sort of gospel scholarship emphasis/program in our stake. We all need to work on our scholarship in all important areas by studying good books and the scriptures. The proper role of government would be included in this of course.

With the advent of the internet there is so much knowledge we have access to. We have no excuse for remaining ignorant and apathetic.

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Re. that statement that "It is my conviction that the Elders of Israel, widely spread over the nation, will, at that crucial time, successfully rally the righteous of our country and provide the necessary balance of strength to save the institutions of Constitutional government. Now is the time to get ready.”
This forum and others like it are fulfilling this prophecy. Keeps preparing Ye Elders of Israel!

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SwissMrs&Pitchfire wrote:http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/Voting.htm

“Our great Constitution has been beaten and torn until now it hangs by a single thread, and that thread is our franchise to vote.” (Ezra Taft Benson, 1976, Freeman Institute, Provo, Utah)

The its all over

As Josef Stalin infamously said: "Its not who votes that counts, its who counts the votes"

Game. Set. Match

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I enjoyed the video. But I honestly can't figure out what our men in uniform are waiting for. Why don't they comprehend the evil they are doing in other lands? They need to turn their guns around and point them over this direction. We need a troop serge of about 40,000 in Washington D.C.

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Having once been one of those men in uniform, and having a son who was more recently one of those men in uniform, I think I can say with some authority -- maybe I better not say it.

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Cowell wrote:I enjoyed the video. But I honestly can't figure out what our men in uniform are waiting for. Why don't they comprehend the evil they are doing in other lands? They need to turn their guns around and point them over this direction. We need a troop serge of about 40,000 in Washington D.C.
The troops work for the people elected by the citizens of the country. For them to turn on the leaders....is effectively the same as turning on the citizens of the country. It is extremely unfair to ask them to take a stand on something the populace won't.

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For now, I would be happy if every person in the military and law enforcement were to see that Oath Keeper's video...so that they will at least be encouraged to take a little time to think, now -- about what they will do in the future -- if given any of "those orders".

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...and hopefully when the time comes that our military and law enforcement personnel are given "those orders"...there will be enough of them to make a difference...that have the goodness and the courage within themselves, to remember the Oath they took to uphold the Constitution -- and REFUSE TO OBEY "THOSE" ORDERS.

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p51-mustang wrote:
The Elders of Israel have got a lot of getting ready to do. Ignorance and apathy are rampant in the Church.
I agree Lundbaek. I have been called recently as the stake Sunday school president and part of my duty is to help the members to be instructed both in church and in the home. As I have pondered how to fullfill this duty, I thought of this scripture:

Hosea 4: 6
6 ¶ My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:

We learn that when we study and learn by the spirit we are converted to true principles and in turn our behavior changes and repentance is brought forth. We also know that satan can decieve us when we are ignorant, hence the people get destroyed by choosing crooked paths in all endeavors thus leading to said destruction.

I have had the distinct impression to recommend some sort of gospel scholarship emphasis/program in our stake. We all need to work on our scholarship in all important areas by studying good books and the scriptures. The proper role of government would be included in this of course.

With the advent of the internet there is so much knowledge we have access to. We have no excuse for remaining ignorant and apathetic.
In Cleon Skousen's 5000 year leap, one of the principles it teaches that the founding fathers understood; was that liberty could only be maintained in a moral and properly educated society (one educated in true principles of government).

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Cowell wrote:I enjoyed the video. But I honestly can't figure out what our men in uniform are waiting for. Why don't they comprehend the evil they are doing in other lands? They need to turn their guns around and point them over this direction. We need a troop serge of about 40,000 in Washington D.C.
lundbaek wrote:Having once been one of those men in uniform, and having a son who was more recently one of those men in uniform, I think I can say with some authority -- maybe I better not say it.
Jason wrote:The troops work for the people elected by the citizens of the country. For them to turn on the leaders....is effectively the same as turning on the citizens of the country. It is extremely unfair to ask them to take a stand on something the populace won't.
You make a good point Jason, but if the general population should get with it, shouldn't we hold the men and women in the military to at least the same standard? Did they not swear an oath? Is that not the whole point of this organisation "Oath Keepers?"

"They Fought Fascism & Communism Over There...Will We Suffer Fascism & Communism Here? Not on Our Watch!...We swore an oath to support and defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. So help us God!"

I full-heartedly agree with organizations like these that remind the men in women in the military who they are protecting and what against.

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Cowell wrote:
Cowell wrote:I enjoyed the video. But I honestly can't figure out what our men in uniform are waiting for. Why don't they comprehend the evil they are doing in other lands? They need to turn their guns around and point them over this direction. We need a troop serge of about 40,000 in Washington D.C.
lundbaek wrote:Having once been one of those men in uniform, and having a son who was more recently one of those men in uniform, I think I can say with some authority -- maybe I better not say it.
Jason wrote:The troops work for the people elected by the citizens of the country. For them to turn on the leaders....is effectively the same as turning on the citizens of the country. It is extremely unfair to ask them to take a stand on something the populace won't.
You make a good point Jason, but if the general population should get with it, shouldn't we hold the men and women in the military to at least the same standard? Did they not swear an oath? Is that not the whole point of this organisation "Oath Keepers?"

"They Fought Fascism & Communism Over There...Will We Suffer Fascism & Communism Here? Not on Our Watch!...We swore an oath to support and defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. So help us God!"

I full-heartedly agree with organizations like these that remind the men in women in the military who they are protecting and what against.
I agree. I too swore an oath....and there wasn't an expiration time attached.

That said, I agree. Should the general population get with it...we should expect the military to back them up. Until then I think it is unfair to lay all the burden squarely upon the military's shoulders and expect them to correct the situation. We elected the jackasses in past and present administrations that have placed us in our current position. We have no one to blame but ourselves (multiple generations too as it goes back to pre-WWII).

Oath Keepers is awesome.....but it is only a desperate last resort to prepare minds for the time when a soldier (enforcer - police, military, etc) has to make a decision on whether or not he will carry out orders. Not much of a deterrent really but an attempt none the less. Hopefully New Orleans was a wake up call for many.

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I have been doing some personal research the past several months regarding government and our reaction to it, etc. It has been very enlightening to read what the Brethren have said over the years. I came across a discussion in the Ensign, June 1976, under the "I Have a Question" portion. I would like to put the URL here for you guys to read if you want. I am getting quite a collection of stuff!

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideN ... 82620aRCRD

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Jason wrote:That said, I agree. Should the general population get with it...we should expect the military to back them up. Until then I think it is unfair to lay all the burden squarely upon the military's shoulders and expect them to correct the situation.
Jason, just to be clear, I am not at all "blaming" the military for anything. I know it is the public's fault and I have all the respect in the world for the military. But as I said, I HONESTLY HONESTLY don't know what they're waiting for. That is not a put down. There are people in the military, on our side, who are very much aware of what is going on. I know they want to do something about it deep down and they have the combat training to do so. Perhaps they will one day. This was my point.

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Cowell wrote:
Jason wrote:That said, I agree. Should the general population get with it...we should expect the military to back them up. Until then I think it is unfair to lay all the burden squarely upon the military's shoulders and expect them to correct the situation.
Jason, just to be clear, I am not at all "blaming" the military for anything. I know it is the public's fault and I have all the respect in the world for the military. But as I said, I HONESTLY HONESTLY don't know what they're waiting for. That is not a put down. There are people in the military, on our side, who are very much aware of what is going on. I know they want to do something about it deep down and they have the combat training to do so. Perhaps they will one day. This was my point.
I understand.....but even the expectation isn't warranted in light of the military's responsibilities to the office holders who were duly elected by the people.

Also keep in mind that training highly emphasizes following orders. Superiors have the right to shoot you on the spot for not following orders. Civilians have a little more leeway.

Again this comes down to a sheer numbers game. Those that are in the know are very much in the minority just as we are on the civilian side. Until someone lights the match and ignites the powder keg.....we just hold on and stay prepared....or do everything in our power to get prepared. Get the word out!

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