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MMbelieve wrote: July 26th, 2017, 4:53 pm I attempt to clear confusion here because it is something I am interested in reading about as I haven't studied Islam very much...but we need to get over the little misunderstanding first.

Well, I'm interested in how Islam opposes the 10 commandments. The religions do seem similar in many ways.
It'll do you very little good to try to learn about Islam here. We have all had differing degrees of interactions with Muslims, from close personal relationships to sensationalistic media hype only. I can certainly tell you about good friends I've had who are Muslims, who pray and fast and try to do all manner of good. I can also tell you about Muslim Imams I've heard explaining that all Muslims need to do good in order to sway all people to their extremist beliefs so that they can increase their army size to be more effective at killing all of those who refuse Islam. Certainly some Muslims see it as their sacred duty to rape women who refuse to submit to Allah or kill men who won't join them (I know this, I've heard them) and some who are very gentle and loving souls trying to make the world a better place. Muslims I've been friends with despise the violent ones, but there is a lot of hate on both sides.

You can't learn about Islam from Mormons, at least not very much. Learn it from Muslims. Both the good and the bad. (Do the same with Mormons.)

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Silver wrote: August 1st, 2017, 8:57 am Gadianton Chapter 1:
Verse 1 Ignore what your Bible says and send a Tomahawk missile into the wedding parties of your enemies.
Hatred of the evil the man across your street is doing does not mean you support your next door neighbor shooting at him. It's possible to believe they're both wrong.

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Silver wrote: August 1st, 2017, 12:13 pm You may never use the word "hate" in your posts but it comes through loud and clear. So no apology from me.
You really need to clean out your assumption filter, it's blocked worse than an 8 year old who ate a whole 5 pound block of cheese. I clearly see anger at the RELIGION of people deceived at best and in some extreme cases complicit, but there's an enormous disparity between hatred of evil doctrine and hatred of people who are blinded by it. I've never had the impression that Mark intends any animosity to my Muslim friends even with as passionately as he disagrees with their religion. I disagree with Mark on some things, but I'd be willing to bet I could have him over for a dinner party with my friend Michael (I know, not a particularly Arabic name) without causing fireworks. I'd thump them both on the head if they did.

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Silver wrote: August 4th, 2017, 9:38 am
Sirocco wrote: August 4th, 2017, 9:27 am Can a people really control what a government does? They're untrustworthy at best and utter madmen at worst.
Bingo. So let's stop associating the acts of a few extremists on 1.8 billion people and work on our own issues within our own borders.
Isis and Al Qaeda (both groups helped into power by the U.S. Government) are not "a few extremists" as you say. They certainly are not 1.8 Billion, but they're a few million at the very least.

However, as I said, they're creations of (or were nurtured by) the West. Do we need to stop bombing them? Certainly. However, it will not stop until Islamic terrorism stops attacking innocent people. This, also, will not stop. Islam is one more tool satan will continue to use to stoke violence. We owe it to ourselves to demand our government stop the killing of innocent people, but Islam is not an innocent bystander in this fight.

The Military Industrial Complex needs to be reigned in. The Wahabbists need to be reigned in. I don't see either happening.

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skmo wrote: August 7th, 2017, 1:23 pm
MMbelieve wrote: July 26th, 2017, 4:53 pm I attempt to clear confusion here because it is something I am interested in reading about as I haven't studied Islam very much...but we need to get over the little misunderstanding first.

Well, I'm interested in how Islam opposes the 10 commandments. The religions do seem similar in many ways.
It'll do you very little good to try to learn about Islam here. We have all had differing degrees of interactions with Muslims, from close personal relationships to sensationalistic media hype only. I can certainly tell you about good friends I've had who are Muslims, who pray and fast and try to do all manner of good. I can also tell you about Muslim Imams I've heard explaining that all Muslims need to do good in order to sway all people to their extremist beliefs so that they can increase their army size to be more effective at killing all of those who refuse Islam. Certainly some Muslims see it as their sacred duty to rape women who refuse to submit to Allah or kill men who won't join them (I know this, I've heard them) and some who are very gentle and loving souls trying to make the world a better place. Muslims I've been friends with despise the violent ones, but there is a lot of hate on both sides.

You can't learn about Islam from Mormons, at least not very much. Learn it from Muslims. Both the good and the bad. (Do the same with Mormons.)
I don't expect to learn much here but I was wondering on what they thought about it. To say such claims.... I was hoping to understand their thought process on how they believe Islam opposes the 10 commandments.

I actually do not know any Muslims where I am at. I live in rural area where it's mostly white christians.

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MMbelieve wrote: August 7th, 2017, 7:23 pm
skmo wrote: August 7th, 2017, 1:23 pm
MMbelieve wrote: July 26th, 2017, 4:53 pm I attempt to clear confusion here because it is something I am interested in reading about as I haven't studied Islam very much...but we need to get over the little misunderstanding first.

Well, I'm interested in how Islam opposes the 10 commandments. The religions do seem similar in many ways.
It'll do you very little good to try to learn about Islam here. We have all had differing degrees of interactions with Muslims, from close personal relationships to sensationalistic media hype only. I can certainly tell you about good friends I've had who are Muslims, who pray and fast and try to do all manner of good. I can also tell you about Muslim Imams I've heard explaining that all Muslims need to do good in order to sway all people to their extremist beliefs so that they can increase their army size to be more effective at killing all of those who refuse Islam. Certainly some Muslims see it as their sacred duty to rape women who refuse to submit to Allah or kill men who won't join them (I know this, I've heard them) and some who are very gentle and loving souls trying to make the world a better place. Muslims I've been friends with despise the violent ones, but there is a lot of hate on both sides.

You can't learn about Islam from Mormons, at least not very much. Learn it from Muslims. Both the good and the bad. (Do the same with Mormons.)
I don't expect to learn much here but I was wondering on what they thought about it. To say such claims.... I was hoping to understand their thought process on how they believe Islam opposes the 10 commandments.

I actually do not know any Muslims where I am at. I live in rural area where it's mostly white christians.
I posted an article on the first page from an ex muslim who explains all about why ISLAM teaches the opposite of the ten commandments.

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Rensai wrote: August 7th, 2017, 7:33 pm
MMbelieve wrote: August 7th, 2017, 7:23 pm
skmo wrote: August 7th, 2017, 1:23 pm
MMbelieve wrote: July 26th, 2017, 4:53 pm I attempt to clear confusion here because it is something I am interested in reading about as I haven't studied Islam very much...but we need to get over the little misunderstanding first.

Well, I'm interested in how Islam opposes the 10 commandments. The religions do seem similar in many ways.
It'll do you very little good to try to learn about Islam here. We have all had differing degrees of interactions with Muslims, from close personal relationships to sensationalistic media hype only. I can certainly tell you about good friends I've had who are Muslims, who pray and fast and try to do all manner of good. I can also tell you about Muslim Imams I've heard explaining that all Muslims need to do good in order to sway all people to their extremist beliefs so that they can increase their army size to be more effective at killing all of those who refuse Islam. Certainly some Muslims see it as their sacred duty to rape women who refuse to submit to Allah or kill men who won't join them (I know this, I've heard them) and some who are very gentle and loving souls trying to make the world a better place. Muslims I've been friends with despise the violent ones, but there is a lot of hate on both sides.

You can't learn about Islam from Mormons, at least not very much. Learn it from Muslims. Both the good and the bad. (Do the same with Mormons.)
I don't expect to learn much here but I was wondering on what they thought about it. To say such claims.... I was hoping to understand their thought process on how they believe Islam opposes the 10 commandments.

I actually do not know any Muslims where I am at. I live in rural area where it's mostly white christians.
I posted an article on the first page from an ex muslim who explains all about why ISLAM teaches the opposite of the ten commandments.
But the article is propaganda because obviously only a small percent of Muslims believe in the opposite of the ten commandments. If they all believed, for example, thou shalt kill, then wouldn't the general population of Muslims be committing murder all the time? I mean, either they believe in killing, as the Muslim-hater Rensai claims, or they don't. So who are you going to believe, Rensai, the Muslim-hater, or your own eyes which tell you that the vast majority of Muslims go their entire lives without murdering anyone? See? Rensai's claim is ridiculous on its face and he would realize that, too, if he weren't filled with hate.

For clarity, I'm not denying that some Muslims commit murder. Some Muslims are responsible for committing a lot of murders. However, if all Muslims believed it was a commandment to murder non-Muslims, why aren't there hundreds of millions of deaths of infidels every year? Infidels (according to the Muslim definition) should be dying in vast numbers if the Muslims believe the ludicrous claims of these Muslim-haters.

Somebody will come back on here and exclaim, "Hey, I don't hate Muslims!" However, if you go about lying about 1.8 billion people because of their Muslim faith and the things you say are designed to build animosity towards those people, that's a pretty close approximation to hate.

Now watch a 2-minute video on America killing over 500,000 Iraqi children. Innocent children. Sackcloth and ashes for the Muslim-haters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEtdw7Z04QQ

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I fully admit my own shortcomings and great... lets say disliking of that faith.
I am big enough to admit that.

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Sirocco wrote: August 7th, 2017, 9:42 pm I fully admit my own shortcomings and great... lets say disliking of that faith.
I am big enough to admit that.
And for some strange reason, Elizabeth, another Muslim-hater, actually thanks you for saying you don't like Muslims. Wow, what a badge of honor that is.


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You should continually thank god for the family and nation you were born into.

The poor people of Islamic countries were born and raised under false traditions, and have been deceived by the great deceiver.

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markharr wrote: August 10th, 2017, 9:14 am You should continually thank god for the family and nation you were born into.

The poor people of Islamic countries were born and raised under false traditions, and have been deceived by the great deceiver.
How funny it would be if there were some Muslims who are investigating the Church and found your post. Did I say funny? I meant how insulting.

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Silver, it is your continual ranting and support for Islam and Sharia Law ( and thereby Lucifer ) which is insulting to all Christians, and to all who do not follow Lucifer.
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Elizabeth wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:38 pm Silver, it is your continual ranting and support for Islam ( and thereby Lucifer ) which is insulting to all Christians.
I'm not for Islam, Elizabeth. I am against your bigotry and hatred.

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Bigotry and hatred is epitomised in Sharia Law and Islamic teachings which you Silver promote in all your postings, which strongly indicate to the reader that you yourself are a Palestinian Muslim.

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Elizabeth wrote: August 10th, 2017, 1:52 pm Bigotry and hatred is epitomised in Sharia Law and Islamic teachings which you Silver promote in all your postings, which strongly indicate to the reader that you yourself are a Palestinian Muslim.
LOL, you've obviously gone over the edge, Elizabeth. I was born and bred in Texas. Whiter than a sheet so I always hated going to the beach. Baptized into the Church in 1970 and never ventured away. Got any more wrong guesses?

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Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 12:47 pm
markharr wrote: August 10th, 2017, 9:14 am You should continually thank god for the family and nation you were born into.

The poor people of Islamic countries were born and raised under false traditions, and have been deceived by the great deceiver.
How funny it would be if there were some Muslims who are investigating the Church and found your post. Did I say funny? I meant how insulting.
I donno, I'd not want to go to church and risk one exploding or knifing me, they seem to do that just a little too much :))

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Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 12:47 pm
markharr wrote: August 10th, 2017, 9:14 am You should continually thank god for the family and nation you were born into.

The poor people of Islamic countries were born and raised under false traditions, and have been deceived by the great deceiver.
How funny it would be if there were some Muslims who are investigating the Church and found your post. Did I say funny? I meant how insulting.
Finding out you've been deceived is never fun. Sometimes the truth jumps up and bites people on the butt so hard that it leaves teeth marks.

I've no problem saying Mark's words are not framed in the most gentle and kind way possible. I'm even more sure his words, however harsh to hear, are correct.

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Silver wrote: August 10th, 2017, 12:47 pm
markharr wrote: August 10th, 2017, 9:14 am You should continually thank god for the family and nation you were born into.

The poor people of Islamic countries were born and raised under false traditions, and have been deceived by the great deceiver.
How funny it would be if there were some Muslims who are investigating the Church and found your post. Did I say funny? I meant how insulting.
They would probably agree with markjharr. Islamic apostates are the most aggressive critics of Islam. But they have to be careful of Fatwas.

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Silver wrote: July 25th, 2017, 11:30 am
markharr wrote: July 25th, 2017, 11:14 am Islam is the polar opposite of the LDS church on everything. In my opinion, Allah is lucifer and Islam is his religion on this earth.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07 ... ving-food/
When an Arabic-speaking 16-year old priest says the blessing on the bread and water, what are the first words out of his mouth?


The first words an Arabic speaking 16 year old Priest says when blessing the bread or water are: يا إلهي

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LukeAir2008 wrote: August 20th, 2017, 6:07 am
Silver wrote: July 25th, 2017, 11:30 am
markharr wrote: July 25th, 2017, 11:14 am Islam is the polar opposite of the LDS church on everything. In my opinion, Allah is lucifer and Islam is his religion on this earth.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07 ... ving-food/
When an Arabic-speaking 16-year old priest says the blessing on the bread and water, what are the first words out of his mouth?


The first words an Arabic speaking 16 year old Priest says when blessing the bread or water are: يا إلهي
http://dictionary.reverso.net/arabic-en ... %8A/forced

Teach me more.

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Silver wrote: August 20th, 2017, 8:04 pmTeach me more.
Good plan. Definitely better to have Luke teach you than Palestinians.

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Rensai wrote: July 26th, 2017, 9:26 am
Silver wrote: July 26th, 2017, 9:17 am Here you go. America is good at demonizing her enemies. The Muslims just happen to be the target now.

World War I
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World War II
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Instead of loving all God's children, we make them into monsters so they're easier to drone. Besides, if they were all dead none of them would stop us from stealing their oil and other natural resources.
What a bunch of BS. No one is demonizing the Muslims through propaganda, if anything, there is a concerted effort to hide their evils and whitewash history for them. The only thing demonizing them is themselves and their own acts of barbarity.
How can you think this? Were you not around for the aftermath 9/11?

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Here is some news from reality:
http://www.euronews.com/2017/01/31/arme ... terrorists

THE REALITY IS: TERRORISTS ARE NOT A THREAT

Here are things that are more dangerous than muslims in the US:
Black People
White People
Native Americans
Lawnmowers
Cell phones
Doctors
Dogs
Horses
Police
Lightning
Falling out of bed

THE GADIANTON ILLUSION IS: MUSLIMS IS GUNNA GET YOU

The orifices of Gad like Sean Hannity constantly spew forth this doctrine for their own purposes.

So the question becomes: do you want to live based on reality or based on Gadianton doctrines. If you want to be empowered, learn the truth. If you want to yourself be an orifice for the Gads, then keep viewing muslims as a threat.

@Markharr What was your intention in starting this thread?

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harakim wrote: August 25th, 2017, 11:10 pm THE REALITY IS: TERRORISTS ARE NOT A THREAT
The following list disagrees with you:


Bali, Indonesia, 200 people killed
Moscow, Russia, 170 people killed
A train in Madrid, Spain 191 people killed
A school in Beslan, Russia, over 300 people killed, more than half of them children
A train in London,over 50 people killed
Trains in Mumbai over 200 people killed
Jaipur, India 80 people killed
Mumbai, India over 150 people killed
American hotel chain in Indonesia 9 people killed
In American working 13 American soldiers killed on one of their bases
In Russia at Domodedovo International Airport, 37 people killed
Makhachkala, Russia killing an unknown number but at least 14
Grozny, Russia, 26 people killed
A school in Pakistan, 148 people killed
A magazine office in Paris, 17 people killed
A museum in Tunisia, over 20 people killed
A university in Kenya about 150 people killed
Multiple attacks in Turkey, over 100 people killed
A Russian jet, over 220 people killed
Armenas, Algeria, over 60 people killed
A shopping mall in Kenya, over 60 people killed
Kano, Nigeria, 120 people killed
A village in Cameroon, 30 people killed
Paris, France and surrounding areas, 20 people killed
A university again in Kenya, 148 people killed
More attacks around Paris, France, this time 137 people killed
A police training camp in Libya, over 50 people killed
A Kenya military base, over 60 people killed
Nice, France, 87 people killed
A nightclub in Istanbul, Turkey, 39 people killed
Manchester, England, 22 people killed

And literally HUNDREDS of other attacks resulting in single digit deaths or only serious injuries.

Here are things that are more dangerous than muslims in the US:

Lawnmowers
Cell phones
Doctors
Dogs
Horses
Police
Lightning
Falling out of bed
All, or certainly MOST of these deaths would be caused by accident, or negligence at the most.
Black People
White People
Native Americans
In this country, generally people kill out of self defense or perceived threat. Sometimes that threat happens because one person is robbing another, and it's possible the perpetrator and the victim could both kill. but in many, probably almost all, the deaths are not done deliberately. Sure, there are some cases where someone goes out with an intent to kill someone, but most are a reaction, not a planned action.

Wahabbists kill because they plan to use terror and threat of death to spread their warped message. Sometimes the killing is done to remind others in their faith that once you proclaim Allah and profess the Muslim faith, falling away from the faith is not acceptable, and will be paid back by beheading. In some cases it's because someone was found guilty of adultery or homosexuality so they're killed as a warning.

However, most of the attacks listed above were not done to rob people. They were not done because some guy found his wife in bed with the neighbor. They were done specifically to spread terror.

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