As far as I understand the original intent was that the states should have a lot more legislative power than the federal Level. The union was a voluntary collaboration of the states (who had the right to leave the union except Lincoln started war over it). If you want to change the life of everyday citizens it would have to be done by the popular vote on the state Level (the federal Level should have little power to affect everyday lives of citizens).rewcox wrote:What about groping, where does that fit in? Speech by a strong man (Trump) has certainly started the pain. There are consequences from elections, as Obama said when he was elected. Isn't it amazing that the Electoral College was set up, is that constitutional? Popular vote would have given us Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.Mark wrote:Just a thought. Perhaps the ominous upon my house shall it begin applies to those Saints who disregard the constitutional mandate they have been given and openly accept false ideologies that bring about bondage and enslavement. Communist and socialist systems eventually crumble and bring in a strong man to rule over the people. Rights then are dictated by that strong man and the pain begins. You reap what you sow..EmmaLee wrote:That was true when he said it, but it's not true today. Today, they happily tell you they are socialists, they feel virtuous about it. They voted for Bernie, who bills himself a socialist. They voted for Obama, an avowed Marxist. And then they voted for the criminal Hillary, which leaves me without words. And when I say "they", I'm referring to the LDS people I know.Ezra Taft Benson wrote:"But they don’t want you to realize that the path they are pursuing is socialistic..."
Sadly, most of the people in my ward voted for Hillary on Tuesday, and as of Wednesday morning, we have a ward-wide depression going on. @-)
Excellent, and true, quote though. Thank you for posting it.
I'm happy for Hillary, she can take hikes now.
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rewcox wrote:
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What about groping, where does that fit in? Speech by a strong man (Trump) has certainly started the pain. There are consequences from elections, as Obama said when he was elected. Isn't it amazing that the Electoral College was set up, is that constitutional? Popular vote would have given us Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.
I'm happy for Hillary, she can take hikes now.
Groping fits in just under the John Fitzgerald Kennedy and William Jefferson Clinton "legacy".
Trump has started no pain whatsoever. The "pain" or crybaby syndrome has started due to the lack of schooling and parenting so prevalent in society today.
You might take a look at the 2016 final tally of popular vote. Apparently you don't know what the final tally is.
I don't know everything about Hellary the Hella Beast, but I have strong doubt about her taking any hike anywhere.
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What is the final vote tally? Last I saw Hillary won the popular.David13 wrote:rewcox wrote:
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What about groping, where does that fit in? Speech by a strong man (Trump) has certainly started the pain. There are consequences from elections, as Obama said when he was elected. Isn't it amazing that the Electoral College was set up, is that constitutional? Popular vote would have given us Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.
I'm happy for Hillary, she can take hikes now.
Groping fits in just under the John Fitzgerald Kennedy and William Jefferson Clinton "legacy".
Trump has started no pain whatsoever. The "pain" or crybaby syndrome has started due to the lack of schooling and parenting so prevalent in society today.
You might take a look at the 2016 final tally of popular vote. Apparently you don't know what the final tally is.
I don't know everything about Hellary the Hella Beast, but I have strong doubt about her taking any hike anywhere.
dc
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rewcox,
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president
Trump: 60,834,398
Clinton: 61:781,982
Regards,
George Clay
PS: I'm sure there are some absentee ballots to count and this count may change slightly, but not significantly.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president
Trump: 60,834,398
Clinton: 61:781,982
Regards,
George Clay
PS: I'm sure there are some absentee ballots to count and this count may change slightly, but not significantly.
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They say Google was showing inaccurate results. I don't know when they will have a final final tally.gclayjr wrote:rewcox,
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president
Trump: 60,834,398
Clinton: 61:781,982
Regards,
George Clay
PS: I'm sure there are some absentee ballots to count and this count may change slightly, but not significantly.
dc