What non-Americans fail to realize about the Promised Land

[light-one]

Sometimes non-Americans with only double digit IQs that listen only to Satan's media and haven't a clue regarding reality, set themselves up as experts and offer advice to Americans, based solely on a complete misunderstanding of the facts, without realizing that God saved this Promised Land for His own purposes including the restoration of His Gospel, and that even though Satan has taken control of our government, we are still the most desirable nation as evidenced by the flood of people escaping countries to our south that are in far worse shape, and further socialism or Satanism is the last thing we need.

People that do not understand why our Constitution is so important, do not understand the importance of self-government. God has a place for them and they wouldn't like the Celestial Kingdom anyway.

What the LDS Church does say or does not say has zero bearing on the fact that our government has strayed from the course that God intended by the Constitution. Many members are intellectually challenged and the church will continue to provide them with milk.

There are many cowards among us. There are also many patriots. Our awful situation is going to require that blood be spilled in order to recover. God will kill a lot of them. Our mission is to choose which side we are on. Unfortunately, many are on the wrong side. The purpose of our main stream media and our public education systems is to guarantee that as many as possible are brainwashed and indoctrinated to be on the wrong side.

Ezra T. Benson has told us many times which side socialism and big government are on.

[isaacs2066]

Well, our church is off the reservation too at least when it is compared to the D&C which pretty much contains the constitution of the church.

[lundbaek]

I cannot agree more that the Lord established this Promised Land for His own purposes including the restoration of His Gospel. I think that to one who were to wade thru all the statements made by latter-day prophets (which can be found in "A GLORIOUS STANDARD FOR ALL MANKIND" by Christopher S. Bentley) it should be apparent that the Lord intended that Americans live the gospel, especially including the principles of the US Constitution, such that they would reverberate to other countries and inspire their citizens to espouse and adopt those same principles in their own lands.

Unfortunately, that did not happen, and Satan has taken control of our government. I attribute this in large part to the failure of people, including and especially Latter-day Saints, to "learn the principles of the Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers" as a Prophet told us MUST do, uphold them and abide by them. I say "especially Latter-day Saints" because we are the only people on the planet who have no excuse for not knowing that "the Lord established the Constitution of this land by the hands of wise men whom He raised up unto this very purpose." with the intent that it "be maintained for the rights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles", and that it "be established forever."

[samizdat]

American is everyone from Point Barrow to Cabo de Hornos.

The US media is a joke. So is our media in MX

[Torquemada]

Doing my personal genealogy helped me to realize that America is indeed the promised land. My European ancestors generally lived about 50 to 60 years and lost 1/2 of their children. As soon as they set foot on the North American continent their life spans jump 20 to 30 years and infant mortality drops to about 10%. One ancestor was born in 1588 London and died 106 year later in Boston.

I was able to follow certain lines that remained in England and one line that ended up in Australia and their life spans didn't improve any at all until the 1940s. Some of my English ancestors died in the infamous workhouses, no doubt worked and starved to death. Life must have been rough in Europe and Australia.

All of my ancestors that made the crossing did so because of fleeing religious persecution. Swiss Anabaptists, English Puritans, French Huguenots, English Mormons and Dutch Jews. Only one came for monetary reasons. He was granted 2000 acres by the crown and had over 200 slaves and not all were of African origins. Some were Irish slaves.

[light-one]

Doing my personal genealogy helped me to realize that America is indeed the promised land. My European ancestors generally lived about 50 to 60 years and lost 1/2 of their children. As soon as they set foot on the North American continent their life spans jump 20 to 30 years and infant mortality drops to about 10%. One ancestor was born in 1588 London and died 106 year later in Boston.

I was able to follow certain lines that remained in England and one line that ended up in Australia and their life spans didn't improve any at all until the 1940s. Some of my English ancestors died in the infamous workhouses, no doubt worked and starved to death. Life must have been rough in Europe and Australia.

All of my ancestors that made the crossing did so because of fleeing religious persecution. Swiss Anabaptists, English Puritans, French Huguenots, English Mormons and Dutch Jews. Only one came for monetary reasons. He was granted 2000 acres by the crown and had over 200 slaves and not all were of African origins. Some were Irish slaves.

That is an amazing testament. Now couple that with what Lundbaek said:

knowing that "the Lord established the Constitution of this land by the hands of wise men whom He raised up unto this very purpose." with the intent that it "be maintained for the rights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles", and that it "be established forever."

and it makes me wonder if the establishment of Zion can not be done until this Celestial Law is established again. God has given us the Celestial Law that Zion requires. Britain or Mexico do not have this law. Although they are welcome to embrace it as their own if they choose. This is why the United States Constitution is relevant and important to ALL nations.

Freedom is the difference between the Savior and the Captor or Destroyer.

Self government is required to be a God. We should be doing everything that we can to re-establish this Celestial Law and using the war in Heaven as a type and example, we can cast out the people with an opposing view.

Maybe when we live the Celestial Law that the Constitution is, Zion will flourish.

[Robin Hood]

Doing my personal genealogy helped me to realize that America is indeed the promised land. My European ancestors generally lived about 50 to 60 years and lost 1/2 of their children. As soon as they set foot on the North American continent their life spans jump 20 to 30 years and infant mortality drops to about 10%. One ancestor was born in 1588 London and died 106 year later in Boston.

I was able to follow certain lines that remained in England and one line that ended up in Australia and their life spans didn't improve any at all until the 1940s. Some of my English ancestors died in the infamous workhouses, no doubt worked and starved to death. Life must have been rough in Europe and Australia.

All of my ancestors that made the crossing did so because of fleeing religious persecution. Swiss Anabaptists, English Puritans, French Huguenots, English Mormons and Dutch Jews. Only one came for monetary reasons. He was granted 2000 acres by the crown and had over 200 slaves and not all were of African origins. Some were Irish slaves.

The life expectancy of Americans is lower than many other countries, and the US position in the infant mortality league table is a national disgrace.
So where does that leave your logic?

As for the US constitution, I'm very happy that you guys like it and want it to remain and thrive. So it should. It is a very good system.
It's of no interest to me though as we have our own system which has served us well for 1,000 years or so.

[light-one]

As for the US constitution, I'm very happy that you guys like it and want it to remain and thrive. So it should. It is a very good system.
It's of no interest to me though as we have our own system which has served us well for 1,000 years or so.

King George didn't impress God too much. That system was not good enough to restore the Church of Jesus Christ. Not to worry however, no one is going to force you to live in a Celestial environment. Even though the UK is not the Promised Land, it doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. From what I understand there are millions of refugees heading your way. I hope they read the anti-rape literature. If they don't, you may consider a Constitution with a higher law.

[Sirocco]

I don't like the US, everything seems off to me there.
It all seems like a messed up, joyless society and I want no part in it.
I mean there is a huge area of the US I'd rather drink poison then step one foot into. I just think the US is a mad house.
Keep your system and dumb unit of measurement nobody else wants it.

I am happy with my real syrup and all the candy and things one can make with it (and poutine).

[Robin Hood]

As for the US constitution, I'm very happy that you guys like it and want it to remain and thrive. So it should. It is a very good system.
It's of no interest to me though as we have our own system which has served us well for 1,000 years or so.

King George didn't impress God too much. That system was not good enough to restore the Church of Jesus Christ. Not to worry however, no one is going to force you to live in a Celestial environment. Even though the UK is not the Promised Land, it doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. From what I understand there are millions of refugees heading your way. I hope they read the anti-rape literature. If they don't, you may consider a Constitution with a higher law.

With regard to Syrian refugees, we are allowing 20,000 in over a 5 year period, and they come directly from the refugee camps in the middle-east. We're not Gernany!
As regards King George, methinks you are living in the past.

I have absolutely nothing against the US constitution. You guys obviously think it's necessary to keep your country in line, and it probably is.
It's not meant for us though, we have our own way of doing things. We don't have any intention of doing things your way. Wouldn't it be boring if we were all the same!

As for the US constitution being "celestial", we obviuosly have a very different idea of what constitutes "celestial". If it really is the US constitution I think there are going to be a lot of seriously disappointed people in the kingdom.

And that's a point. How can a constitution which demands a republic and no monarch have anything to do with God's kingdom? Seems strange to me.

[light-one]

I don't like the US, everything seems off to me there.
It all seems like a messed up, joyless society and I want no part in it.
I mean there is a huge area of the US I'd rather drink poison then step one foot into. I just think the US is a mad house.
Keep your system and dumb unit of measurement nobody else wants it.

I am happy with my real syrup and all the candy and things one can make with it (and poutine).

There is a lot of places I don't want to go either. One thing they seem to have in common is democratic leadership. Detroit, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc. They don't like the Constitution either.

[Sirocco]

I don't like the US, everything seems off to me there.
It all seems like a messed up, joyless society and I want no part in it.
I mean there is a huge area of the US I'd rather drink poison then step one foot into. I just think the US is a mad house.
Keep your system and dumb unit of measurement nobody else wants it.

I am happy with my real syrup and all the candy and things one can make with it (and poutine).

There is a lot of places I don't want to go either. One thing they seem to have in common is democratic leadership. Detroit, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc. They don't like the Constitution either.

I didn't like Dallas and that's not democrat run.
Not that your politics is really like ours...So I have little little actual idea what that really means I do know I am often distrustful of both right and left wing politics.
Both sides are idiots. Sometimes either one can come up with something half way intelligent but neither I have any faith in.

[light-one]

I didn't like Dallas and that's not democrat run.
Not that your politics is really like ours...So I have little little actual idea what that really means I do know I am often distrustful of both right and left wing politics.
Both sides are idiots. Sometimes either one can come up with something half way intelligent but neither I have any faith in.

I don't know much about Dallas, but I do not think there is a single city, county, or state, in the entire United States, that follows the Constitution. Most government officials have never read the Constitution and equate it with toilet paper. For instance, under the Constitution, it is unlawful for the Federal government to own property, outside of the ten mile District of Columbia and ports within a state only if the state gives express permission for such ownership which can be withdrawn at any time. Basically, every single federal employee is a traitor. They all agree to uphold the Constitution, but none do. So since the government by the people is no longer by the people or for the people, some people have began to wake up and realize that all of the problems, every single one, is due to the Satanic government's unwillingness to follow the Constitution as God inspired the Founders to write. The United States were Blessed and prospered greatly. Now, except for the few patriots, the country is a cesspool of corruption and filth. Anyone who believes that the U.S. government is on the correct course today is a lying, incompetent, Satanic, buffoon, who is either incredibly stupid beyond belief, or an actual disciple of Satan.

The Constitution does make provisions for such a scenario, one of which is the second amendment. God has a provision, also; Burn 'em.

Patriots are in the process of taking the country back and following the course Jesus suggests.

[durangout]

Patriots are in the process of taking the country back and following the course Jesus suggests.

Can I assume you are referring to the Bundy retard in Oregon?

btw...Celestial law is characterized by a Theocracy not a Republic.

The US and the US constitution are simply means to an end. Nothing more. Quit worshiping them. :ymcowboy:

[Spaced_Out]

Aaagh the constitution again. This is the most contentious topic that I have read on the forum, it is a life and death matter to a lot of people!!
As I have posted, the writers of the constitution made it very clear it is only a system of government for people who have high morals and believe and keep the teachings of the bible. The USA is long past that stage and have changed the laws. It no longer has bearing, need to move on it has been rejected as a document...

Trump for president "Make America great again" :p
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[lundbaek]

I believe the Lord Jesus the Christ gave us more than enuf instruction on how to preserve our country and the freedoms vouchsafed by our Constitution. Members of the LDS Church were given what I consider a divine mandate or a doctrinal imperative to learn the principles of the Constitution "in the tradition of the Founding Fathers" and then uphold and abide by them. The LDS people were also given prophetic warnings by both ancient and latter-day prophets about a "secret combination" that would work to get power in the form of wealth and control of government and in so doing destroy our freedoms. In spite of this knowledge and responsibility, it seems that we generally have not had the wisdom to act on it, and as a consequence we are continuing to lose more and more control over our lives, our liberty, and our property. I believe that if lots more of the LDS people had acted on those directions and warnings they could have, with the Lord's help, rallied enuf Americans to make the difference.

According to certain past Church authorities we may yet be called upon as a people to exert great influence in helping to restore the liberties and freedoms vouchsafed to us in the Constitution. I know a few members of this forum are engaged in various ways in preparing for this resurrection of the US Constitution and I appreciate your efforts.

[Spaced_Out]

Yes the constitution was a gift from G_d, the means of government that the world was to abide by, but wickedness has taken over. Hence we had the hastening to accelerate the preaching the gospel of repentance, that is now done as well. In 2014 the bible was taken in US book stores and moved from the non-fiction to fiction section. It is now considered a story book and with it's demise the constitution is basically gone. What I am saying is concern yourself with current prophetic priority preaching the gospel of repentance, faith and baptism. First the people need to repent then the constitution can be raised again. But I fear the second coming will happen prior to that then we will be under a theocratic government.

That is why I say it is time to move on and get with the current program. Obama just makes executive orders left and right and both sides of the political spectrum cave in as they fear the voice of the people. Who ever stands up for the constitution is simply voted out by the voice of the people.

Alma 31:5
5 And now, as the preaching of the word had a great tendency to lead the people to do that which was just—yea, it had had more powerful effect upon the minds of the people than the sword, or anything else, which had happened unto them—therefore Alma thought it was expedient that they should try the virtue of the word of God.

[skmo]

(and poutine).

While I don't always regard our Northern cousins with the greatest of creations, I will certainly bow to you there. French fries smothered in gravy and cheese curds. To find something that pegs higher on my desire-o-meter, I think you need something like steak, bacon, a Harley, or a woman.

[Torquemada]

[/quote] The life expectancy of Americans is lower than many other countries, and the US position in the infant mortality league table is a national disgrace.
So where does that leave your logic?

As for the US constitution, I'm very happy that you guys like it and want it to remain and thrive. So it should. It is a very good system.
It's of no interest to me though as we have our own system which has served us well for 1,000 years or so.[/quote]

The logic is certainly not with Prince Phillip. The Royals have been a plague upon humanity since the Venetian party took over and the Habsburgs or habsbuggers took over. How many of my ancestors died in your bloody workhouses? How many Chinese died in the boxer rebellions and the Taiping rebellion? Over 30 million. Good Lord Palmerston instigated the American Civil War and hired Karl Marx to write the manifesto. Which was later used by Brutish to destroy Russia and China from within. How many Indians and Burmese were starved to death in England's precursors to Nazi death camps? It worked for the Royals, but not for the commoners. Need I mention Cecil Rhodes? Oh yeah, the Irish, The Royals turned the entire island into one giant death camp purposely starving millions of innocent Irish to death. The lucky ones made it to America and some made the crossing naked, selling their last clothing to get away from your psychopathic overlords.

It was nice old Berty Russell that put Hitler into power. It was Berty again that twisted Truman's arm to nuke Japan. The royal family continue to be the world's biggest drug dealers. The so called war on drugs, should be called a state sanctioned war on the competition.

The declining life quality in the USA is a direct result of a Tory doctrine developed by the Tory Adam Smith and his free trade scam and by the takeover by the City of London of the American banking system. Obamacare is a carbon copy of Blair's healthcare program which is a copy of Hitler's T-4 healthcare program. The USA has degenerated into a British colony once again.

And of course Britain continues to degenerate at the same pace. This is due to the general moral degeneration of our peoples.

As a teen I worked for a retired British capitan from WWI. He told me many a time he would have gladly joined the American revolution against his dastardly incompetent generals. He was gassed, shot and hit by shrapnel during the war. I know, I took hospice care of him and saw the scars and he had plenty of pride to tell me about each.

Your British system works for the commoner just for the last few generations and that is because of the standard of Liberty that was in the USA. It was the USA that exported this principle throughout the world. The brit soldiers saw how much better quality life the American soldiers were enjoying. They weren't willing to go back to the good old 1000 years tyranny that worked so well. No wonder you brits have stiff upper lips. It was the Brits that started WWI, it was the Brits started bombing German civilians in WWII. It was the Brits behind the bloody French Revolution to get back at them for helping America with it's revolution. British royalty are just a bunch of nasty, nasty organized criminals that live in big houses and dress in purple.

Go back and read some Charles Dickens to remind you of how miserable England used to be.

Take heed of the lesson in the Book of Mormon about the king-men.

BTW Prince Phillip is my 31st cousin (back to the Battle of Hastings) and that confirms the rumor of a monkey in our family tree. =))

That great and spacious building that Lehi saw was the House of Windsor. Someday all your precious royals will be sharing the same closet with Jeremy Bentham.

[Ezra]

Doing my personal genealogy helped me to realize that America is indeed the promised land. My European ancestors generally lived about 50 to 60 years and lost 1/2 of their children. As soon as they set foot on the North American continent their life spans jump 20 to 30 years and infant mortality drops to about 10%. One ancestor was born in 1588 London and died 106 year later in Boston.

I was able to follow certain lines that remained in England and one line that ended up in Australia and their life spans didn't improve any at all until the 1940s. Some of my English ancestors died in the infamous workhouses, no doubt worked and starved to death. Life must have been rough in Europe and Australia.

All of my ancestors that made the crossing did so because of fleeing religious persecution. Swiss Anabaptists, English Puritans, French Huguenots, English Mormons and Dutch Jews. Only one came for monetary reasons. He was granted 2000 acres by the crown and had over 200 slaves and not all were of African origins. Some were Irish slaves.

The life expectancy of Americans is lower than many other countries, and the US position in the infant mortality league table is a national disgrace.
So where does that leave your logic?

As for the US constitution, I'm very happy that you guys like it and want it to remain and thrive. So it should. It is a very good system.
It's of no interest to me though as we have our own system which has served us well for 1,000 years or so.

Satan works hardest on his biggest threat.

He has in the USA convinced the ignorant masses to have their children born in hospitals. No other country has the amount of baby's born in hospitals. No other country has as many pitocen enduced labor or epidurals and there for complications and c-sections and infant deaths.

[Robin Hood]

The life expectancy of Americans is lower than many other countries, and the US position in the infant mortality league table is a national disgrace.
So where does that leave your logic?

As for the US constitution, I'm very happy that you guys like it and want it to remain and thrive. So it should. It is a very good system.
It's of no interest to me though as we have our own system which has served us well for 1,000 years or so.[/quote]

The logic is certainly not with Prince Phillip. The Royals have been a plague upon humanity since the Venetian party took over and the Habsburgs or habsbuggers took over. How many of my ancestors died in your bloody workhouses? How many Chinese died in the boxer rebellions and the Taiping rebellion? Over 30 million. Good Lord Palmerston instigated the American Civil War and hired Karl Marx to write the manifesto. Which was later used by Brutish to destroy Russia and China from within. How many Indians and Burmese were starved to death in England's precursors to Nazi death camps? It worked for the Royals, but not for the commoners. Need I mention Cecil Rhodes? Oh yeah, the Irish, The Royals turned the entire island into one giant death camp purposely starving millions of innocent Irish to death. The lucky ones made it to America and some made the crossing naked, selling their last clothing to get away from your psychopathic overlords.

It was nice old Berty Russell that put Hitler into power. It was Berty again that twisted Truman's arm to nuke Japan. The royal family continue to be the world's biggest drug dealers. The so called war on drugs, should be called a state sanctioned war on the competition.

The declining life quality in the USA is a direct result of a Tory doctrine developed by the Tory Adam Smith and his free trade scam and by the takeover by the City of London of the American banking system. Obamacare is a carbon copy of Blair's healthcare program which is a copy of Hitler's T-4 healthcare program. The USA has degenerated into a British colony once again.

And of course Britain continues to degenerate at the same pace. This is due to the general moral degeneration of our peoples.

As a teen I worked for a retired British capitan from WWI. He told me many a time he would have gladly joined the American revolution against his dastardly incompetent generals. He was gassed, shot and hit by shrapnel during the war. I know, I took hospice care of him and saw the scars and he had plenty of pride to tell me about each.

Your British system works for the commoner just for the last few generations and that is because of the standard of Liberty that was in the USA. It was the USA that exported this principle throughout the world. The brit soldiers saw how much better quality life the American soldiers were enjoying. They weren't willing to go back to the good old 1000 years tyranny that worked so well. No wonder you brits have stiff upper lips. It was the Brits that started WWI, it was the Brits started bombing German civilians in WWII. It was the Brits behind the bloody French Revolution to get back at them for helping America with it's revolution. British royalty are just a bunch of nasty, nasty organized criminals that live in big houses and dress in purple.

Go back and read some Charles Dickens to remind you of how miserable England used to be.

Take heed of the lesson in the Book of Mormon about the king-men.

BTW Prince Phillip is my 31st cousin (back to the Battle of Hastings) and that confirms the rumor of a monkey in our family tree. =))

That great and spacious building that Lehi saw was the House of Windsor. Someday all your precious royals will be sharing the same closet with Jeremy Bentham.[/quote]











Robin Hood replied

So what?
I'm not trying to tell you our system is celestial, or the best, or worthy of emulation etc.
It matters not one jot to me what you think of the royal family, I honestly couldn't care less. I'm not a fan either, unlike most Americans - who seem to be completely besotted by them.

As regards the lessons of the Book of Mormon, there are comments for and against monarchs. King Benjamin, King Mosiah etc were good guys. The Nephite system was eventually destroyed by internal corruption from within the republican system they employed, and their royalist opponents (the Lamanites). Perhaps there is a lesson there my friend.

In recent years we've seen two Bush's become US presidents, and there appears to be a chance we'll get another one next year...... or perhaps a second Clinton. A de facto royal dynastical succession methinks. ;)

[skmo]

Trump for president "Make America great again"

The fact that a clown like Trump can garner so very many people to believe in him shows we've lost whatever dignity we had as a people. It wouldn't surprise me to see Bruce/Kaitlyn Jenner run for prez in 2020.

[freedomforall]

Doing my personal genealogy helped me to realize that America is indeed the promised land. My European ancestors generally lived about 50 to 60 years and lost 1/2 of their children. As soon as they set foot on the North American continent their life spans jump 20 to 30 years and infant mortality drops to about 10%. One ancestor was born in 1588 London and died 106 year later in Boston.

I was able to follow certain lines that remained in England and one line that ended up in Australia and their life spans didn't improve any at all until the 1940s. Some of my English ancestors died in the infamous workhouses, no doubt worked and starved to death. Life must have been rough in Europe and Australia.

All of my ancestors that made the crossing did so because of fleeing religious persecution. Swiss Anabaptists, English Puritans, French Huguenots, English Mormons and Dutch Jews. Only one came for monetary reasons. He was granted 2000 acres by the crown and had over 200 slaves and not all were of African origins. Some were Irish slaves.

The life expectancy of Americans is lower than many other countries, and the US position in the infant mortality league table is a national disgrace.
So where does that leave your logic?

As for the US constitution, I'm very happy that you guys like it and want it to remain and thrive. So it should. It is a very good system.
It's of no interest to me though as we have our own system which has served us well for 1,000 years or so.

Ya, it served you so well that all the Brits turned in their guns like good little kids at the whim of this wonderful government of England, a move that many Brits now regret.

Is this what Americans truly want, to be thrown in prison for defending themselves?

A Brit tells reporters concerning Americans, "your Constitution matters, your freedom matters."

[mirkwood]

It has been interesting over the years to see how many Europeans are either hostile or feel threatened by the US Constitution. This among the LDS crowd.

[Robin Hood]

Doing my personal genealogy helped me to realize that America is indeed the promised land. My European ancestors generally lived about 50 to 60 years and lost 1/2 of their children. As soon as they set foot on the North American continent their life spans jump 20 to 30 years and infant mortality drops to about 10%. One ancestor was born in 1588 London and died 106 year later in Boston.

I was able to follow certain lines that remained in England and one line that ended up in Australia and their life spans didn't improve any at all until the 1940s. Some of my English ancestors died in the infamous workhouses, no doubt worked and starved to death. Life must have been rough in Europe and Australia.

All of my ancestors that made the crossing did so because of fleeing religious persecution. Swiss Anabaptists, English Puritans, French Huguenots, English Mormons and Dutch Jews. Only one came for monetary reasons. He was granted 2000 acres by the crown and had over 200 slaves and not all were of African origins. Some were Irish slaves.

The life expectancy of Americans is lower than many other countries, and the US position in the infant mortality league table is a national disgrace.
So where does that leave your logic?

As for the US constitution, I'm very happy that you guys like it and want it to remain and thrive. So it should. It is a very good system.
It's of no interest to me though as we have our own system which has served us well for 1,000 years or so.

Ya, it served you so well that all the Brits turned in their guns like good little kids at the whim of this wonderful government of England, a move that many Brits now regret.

Is this what Americans truly want, to be thrown in prison for defending themselves?

A Brit tells reporters concerning Americans, "your Constitution matters, your freedom matters."

What a load of bo**cks!
They're a bunch of toffs protesting about the abolition of fox hunting with hounds.
They're still allowed to shoot foxes (you know, with guns), they're just not allowed to chase them to exhaustion and then have the hounds rip the live and terrified fox to pieces in a frenzy of blood lust.