The Creed of Freedom by G. Edward Griffin

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In my town's public library is a 4 book set by Sir Winston Churchill, “A History of the English-speaking Peoples.” The first volume is entitled, “The Birth of Britain.” The second chapter in that volume is entitled, “The English Common Law” and that chapter ends on page 225 with these words:

“... the liberties of Englishmen rested not on any enactment of the State, but on immemorial slow-growing custom declared by juries of free men who gave their verdicts case by case in open court.”

You have the right to be good, among the goodly people, who by the jury of 12 people will tell us all what they feel and believe is goodness - your rights.

The basis of the constitution is found by studying the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel.

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That may have been the way the legal system developed, but it is not the way things happen now. These days, juries do not decide law, only guilt or innocence under the law, as the state has legislated it. Moreover, had the State not decided to recognise the custom and precedence of common law, then all these judicial findings would be irrelevant. In democracies, the citizens tend to have a decent set of rights; under other systems, they don't. Whether they ought to do so is not a matter of the intrinsic nature of rights, (if they were intrinsic no state could shear them from us), but a moral question that makes for political discussion about the way the state should govern.

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2ndRateMind wrote:That may have been the way the legal system developed, but it is not the way things happen now. These days, juries do not decide law, only guilt or innocence under the law, as the state has legislated it. Moreover, had the State not decided to recognise the custom and precedence of common law, then all these judicial findings would be irrelevant. In democracies, the citizens tend to have a decent set of rights; under other systems, they don't. Whether they ought to do so is not a matter of the intrinsic nature of rights, (if they were intrinsic no state could shear them from us), but a moral question that makes for political discussion about the way the state should govern.

Best wishes, 2RM
Read this book about Rights in America
http://s98822910.onlinehome.us/thousand ... merica.pdf

If you read the founding documents of New England's Commonwealths you will find the designation of "Gospel Rights," or "Liberties of the Gospel" for the rights that went into the founding of America. Gospel Rights and Liberties of the Gospel are what juries put into the customs of the Northern European's way of life in America.

Later, after the English Civil War, the Bank of England got the King of England to have his subjects begin to use the rights granted by the king's politicians instead of their millennium old Gospel Rights, as a basis for the top-down control system of the Southern Europeans, being deployed over them. This fall from the prominence of Gospel Rights in England eventually necessitated a break of New England from their Bank of England controlled friends over the sea.

Those "Rights" you get from your politician and civil manager are called, Civil Rights, after the tradition of the Southern Europeans, are not rights, only privileges given to those people who obey the civil managers.

Bruce Wydner wrote:
Article 13, of the Magna Carta, says that as long as they keep doing their Business there according to the “Ancient Liberties and Free Customs” that their “Jertti Knights,” Forefathers, brought there with them, when they began doing their Business there that way, in 450 AD, the Monarchs of England and all of their Feudalistic Followers had to stay out, outside of the Castle Walls of London, unless one of them was especially invited in.
“IT IS THE ANCIENT RIGHTS OF THE LAW, WHICH OUR FOREFATHERS BROUGHT WITH THEM WHEN THEY ESTABLISHED LONDON, WHICH RIGHTS WE HAVE INHERITED FROM THEM, and which RIGHTS have given us the Highest Standard of Living in the World.” [And, looking at their point of view from the current prospective, those “ancient liberties (“RIGHTS,” to be Anglo-Saxon) and free customs,” mentioned in the Magna Carta, of London’s Freemen, are today that most valuable “Treasure” which allows the Entire Human Race to “Work Together” in the way that it does, in the relative Prosperity that exists today, around the Entire World that operates today on that Treasure of the inherited Ancestral RIGHTS of the Freemen of London.
The verdicts that come from juries, including from the Supreme Jury of the land are by definition, by the Puritan New England/Ancient North European System, are Law.

The edicts of civil managers are "Policy," and nothing else.

North European's lived and worked together by "Law."

South European's lived and worked together by the "Civil Jurisprudence" emanating from Emperors and Politicians.

If you work together by the smallest of ancient lost tribes of Israel organizations, a "company," then you abyde by the By-Laws, that you put there by the vote of the members, to get you to "look" unto the purpose of your worshipful company. Herein is the basis of Gospel Rights.

We can live and work together today by Gospel Rights! But who cares when $atan's system has the window dressing, on what is actually running the world, that we have come to relish?
Let us talk a little about these words. We have mentioned how the Magna Carta was referring to these most important “RIGHTS” of the Freemen of London where, in Article 13, it talks of the “ancient ‘liberties’ and free customs” of London. The issue, there, are these Anglo-Saxon RIGHTS, that were always held in London by the descendents of the Anglo-Saxons who founded London in 450 AD. Throughout History Mediterranean Statecraft has always tried to get people confused into believing that these most important Anglo-Saxon RIGHTS came from Romans and should, therefore, be named with the Roman name, “liberties.” And, that has had a confusing effect upon people who did not have better information. “However, these ‘Anglo-Saxons’ of the London Fishing Navy Guild, who settled New England, who had this most treasured inheritance from their Ancient Forefathers, who were the Founding Freemen of London, these New Englanders who were now organizing the sharing of these most treasured Ancestral RIGHTS of theirs with their new Neighbors, the Natives of America, WHAT DID THEY CALL THESE ‘RIGHTS’?” “What had ALL of their London Freemen Forefathers, back to the founding of London, ALWAYS CALLED THEM?” THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CALLED, “THE RIGHTS OF THE GOSPEL,” IN LONDON, FROM ITS VERY BEGINNING.
To that people might say, “But doesn’t the word, ‘gospel,’ just mean ‘the good news’ that the Roman Catholic Church brought to the Pagan North Europeans?” That is a very shallow assertion, which even many of its uninformed asserters know is not good enough for anyone who knows anything about the facts. In fact the word, “Gospel” is an Ancient Anglo-Saxon word for the Religion of the Anglo-Saxons before they ever came into contact with the Romans, through Wars etc. Roman Catholicism was focused on eradicating that name, for that original Religion of the Anglo-Saxons, out of existence. They went to such lengths that they did completely eradicate it from the Records of all of the North European Peoples who lived on the Continent of Europe and over whom Roman Catholicism was able to attain some kind of a “Political Control.”

However, try as they had, they were not able to eradicate it out of the Commonwealth of London, nor out of the Scandinavian Islands near North America, where the World-leading educational resources of the People who have always called their Land, “the Commonwealth of Iceland,” since they founded it in 870 AD, also could not be deprived of that word for their Religion before the Political Influences of Roman Catholicism came into Northern Europe. In Iceland their Ancestral name for the message of their Ancestral Religion has always been, the “Guth-spjal,” which means, “the Story of God,” in Icelandic. “Guth” is Icelandic for “God,” and “spjal” is Icelandic for “story.” In ancient German, related to the Anglo-Saxon Language, that expression, “the Story of God,” might have been said like, “Gott-spiel,” which is close enough to “Gospel” that one can see a relationship between these words in these two Germanic Languages.

So, from the beginning of their presence in England, the Anglo-Saxon People (and, most particularly the Anglo-Saxon Tribe of the Jutes, who founded London, and always “barricaded” unwanted Roman Catholic Feudalism’s influences from entering past their Temple Bar and into their Fortress Commonwealth of London) have always called these most Treasured Ancestral Rights of Ours, upon which the Entire Finances of the World are dependent in our times: “THE RIGHTS OF THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD!” Every one of the words in that expression is an Anglo-Saxon Word.

[When the subject is brought up that the name of Our Lord, that is used in the World today, are Greek words, composed by Roman Catholicism as the name for Our Lord, the answer to that is simply that none of His Israelite Disciples, to whom, alone, He was personally sent, to present them with the Truths of His Gospel, ever called Him by that Greek name for Him, that was devised for Him by Roman Catholicism.]

So, now, we return to this Subject of what our Forefathers always treasured, back through their History, of THE MOST PRECIOUS THING IN EXISTENCE, that they knew of, these RIGHTS OF THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD, and how to share them with our new Neighbors, whom Our Law has always continued to recognize as the Absolute Owners of this Glorious Ancestral Land of theirs but which we were sure that they would be so earnest to be able to share with us as we went about the following implementation as to how they could begin to be able to share our Precious Ancestral Treasure with us.
In the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel it is fully explained that Law means to, "Look unto God with all your mind," and nothing else.

God Bless,
Darren
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Dear Darren

I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

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2ndRateMind wrote:Dear Darren

I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

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I have only one point really, that with all of Satan's propaganda in the works, we are missing the point.

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Individualism

So let's move onto individualism, as a foundation of freedom.

I will admit, this idea has a certain amount of intuitive attractiveness about it. We are free from distractions, when we only have ourselves to worry about. Free to spend our money on fripperies, free to work where we wish, if we wish, free to pursue those projects which to us seem most the most gratifying. But, when we marry, we discover responsibilities. Responsibilities to our spouse, and, if God is kind to us, to our children. Our freedoms are curtailed, because we no longer have only our own interests to consider. Yet, which of us, despite those responsibilities, would say that is too great a burden to bear? Particularly when we find that those responsibilities bring us other advantages; a wider circle of friends, the joys of youth in our lives, a perspective beyond and greater than our selfish self-interest. We discover families can achieve more, and give greater happiness, than solitary individuals can produce for themselves.

And so, I would argue, it is with societies. We may give up certain freedoms, when we feed the hungry amongst us, or call on an elderly neighbour to check on their well-being, or donate to some homelessness charity. But we soon discover there are significant joys to be had beyond our own regard for ourselves, beyond even the welfare of our own kith and kin, in helping to create a better, more Christian world. We may sacrifice freedoms to bring this world about, but, by doing so, we create more significant things than personal freedom; a kinder, happier, more virtuous environment that offers it's own kind of freedoms, unrelated to what I am and am not allowed to do, and how much tax I no longer need to pay; freedom from want, freedom from fear, freedom from hatred, and freedom from sin.

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I can stand wholeheartedly with this creed. A lot of supposition and argument can be made abojt this circumstance or that, but the surest and clearest way to stay on track is to cut through it with pure, basic principles. Many in this topic have very clearly established these principles, their source, and their purpose.

History has told us again and again that our most prosperous state, individually and as societies and nations, is to be free. Proper government exists to preserve those freedoms; a government that tries to micromanage others' property has failed every time and will continue to do so. Inequality of possessions is no evil, it is the natural consequence of liberty. In free nations, even impoverished people have access to resources that the greatest doctors and engineers through most of human history have been jnable to provide-medicines and comforts pioneered through the promise of individual wealth by success and a desire to avoid failure,

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