No such thing as "the Mormon Community" - Freedom vs Coercion

[BrotherOfMahonri]

I really feel this article written by Rock Waterman, is an inspired article that speaks, I think, in part, to the problem going on within this LDSFF and the Mormon Culture and that is freedom and natural law. The problem of trying to make this LDSFF exactly like one person or another thinks it should be... when FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS or NATURAL LAW scream against it (not to mention Joseph Smith in my view )

I am well aware that many gay people have been the victims of vicious bullying their entire lives. But the only way we will heal this nation is to seek true justice on an individual basis. Rights belong to individuals, not to groups. There is no such thing as "the gay community" just as there is no such thing as "the straight community" or "the white community" or "the black community."

If you doubt any of that, then try and define "the Mormon community." I spend time on several Mormon Facebook groups, and the reason there are so many is that Mormons don't all think alike. Not by a long shot. Even within the various Mormon Facebook groups there is a wide spectrum of diverse opinion. A definable, uniform "Mormon community" does not exist.

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What do you think? There is a user that I believe gets closer to the resolution than anyone else on here, and that is marc in his post about love, as love can be the common ground we start to discuss these issues on, but is there ever going to be the Mormon Community until we become as Christ, pure in charity and with his image in our countenance?

Freedom vs Coercion... Where are you (answering for myself as well) at? Do you love the gospel such that you allow freedom of your fellow believing faithful saints or do you coerce them (infringing on their rights to believe as they want) by forcing them to do as you want them to do, despite their respecting the forum owner's policies?

[dauser]

Wheat and tares are growing up together, both ripening for the harvest.

Those who need government, growing up with people who govern themselves....both ripening for harvest.

Some people cannot govern themselves yet cannot not govern others.

Our communities are full of socialist sympathizers of the publicly educated persuasion (Order Of Nehor).

Satan's tempting plan of Socialism divides with pride and humility every quorum of the church.

The Wheat would use government to prevent evil.
The Tares would use government to protect evil and get gain.

The Tares shift their responsibilities onto their neighbors...unelected task masters...legally, anonymously, because they can.

Dividing the ruthless from the righteous

[skmo]

I really feel this article written by Rock Waterman, is an inspired article that speaks, I think, in part, to the problem going on within this LDSFF and the Mormon Culture and that is freedom and natural law...

...Rights belong to individuals, not to groups. There is no such thing as "the gay community" just as there is no such thing as "the straight community" or "the white community" or "the black community."

If you doubt any of that, then try and define "the Mormon community." I spend time on several Mormon Facebook groups, and the reason there are so many is that Mormons don't all think alike. Not by a long shot. Even within the various Mormon Facebook groups there is a wide spectrum of diverse opinion. A definable, uniform "Mormon community" does not exist.

What do you think?

I think Rock may need better critical thinking skills. Rights do belong to individuals, but that does not mean there isn't a community of like-minded and similarly experienced people banding together to get those rights. There certainly IS a gay community. There is unquestionably a black community. Places in Michigan border on war because there are many Muslim communities popping up. I have taught on a reservation in Wyoming and I can assure you, there is a Shoshone community, and it hates the Arapahoe community. In Alaska, there is a Yup'ik Eskimo community that has even more subdivisions. The Kuskokwim Yup'ik HATE the Yukon Yup'ik community. However, bring in the white man and the government and the turn into the YK Delta Yup'ik community.