Pledge of allegiance( writen by a socialist)

[Ezra]

Francis Bellamy Wrote the pledge of allegiance but how many of you know he was a socialist and wrote it to commemorate the reasont steps the U.S. had taken towards socialism? The shift of power taken from the people the state and to the government.


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Declaration of Independence constitution and bill of rights lay out the seperation of power that was supposed to be in place in this country.

Power in the hands of the people. Who were over the states who was over the government.


The pledge as I say it is thus.

I pledge allegiance to my God. And to the constitutional republic for which he created. 50 nations under God that are divisible with liberty and justic for all.

The United states where supposed to be more like individual nations that were United in protecting the freedoms of the people in each nation state.

Lincoln drastically changed that ballance of power. When he forced the southern states by war back into and under the government rule.

My pledge is to what God created not to what has been perverted.
I bring this up today for Memorial Day. To remember all the lives lost in the creating of this country And the work that our founding fathers did in creating our God inspired constitution and government.

And to fight the creeping death of satans influences to destroy it.

Our current pledge of allegiance is one such attempt of satan to destroy what God created.

[buffalo_girl]

And here is the original salute called the Bellamy Salute:


Nice, right?!

[Ezra]

So nazi fascist

[Cookies]

Francis Bellamy Wrote the pledge of allegiance but how many of you know he was a socialist and wrote it to commemorate the reasont steps the U.S. had taken towards socialism? The shift of power taken from the people the state and to the government.

I thought he wrote it to promote nationalism in order to sell more flags?

[Ezra]

Francis Bellamy Wrote the pledge of allegiance but how many of you know he was a socialist and wrote it to commemorate the reasont steps the U.S. had taken towards socialism? The shift of power taken from the people the state and to the government.

I thought he wrote it to promote nationalism in order to sell more flags?

I'm sure greed was part of it.

[KMCopeland]

Glenn Beck. I knew it.

Explains a lot.

[David13]

Brothers.
Are there any traders amongst you?
I shall gladly trade 1000 kmcs for one Glenn Beck any day.
What say ye?
No, brothers, that is not a good enough deal for you, my brothers. I shall gladly give 10,000 kmcs for one Glenn Beck on this or any other day.
dc

[Ezra]

Glenn Beck. I knew it.

Explains a lot.

This explains a lot.


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Kmc pride is the worst of all sins. As the worst a person has is the less they notice they do. Yet others can see it.

And I know I'm not alone when I say. I can see it in you. When are you going to see that your actions and laws you support and uphold in governement are the putting your fellow men into bondage which you will be judged and held accountable for!!!

I come onto ldsff to try and help others not be decived by individuals like you.

It's unfortunate for you I study the scriptures and prophets you like Ignore.

And it's pretty obvious your not here to teach others. Your hear to use your "own wisdoms and lesrnings" to bring people to "your" way of thinking.

[Cookies]

Glenn Beck. I knew it.

Explains a lot.

Does Glenn Beck have an annoyingly paranoid side to all his stuff? I wonder because my dad watches him a lot and he believes everyone is out to get him or force socialism down his throat etc..etc..etc.. blah blah blah I can't even talk to the guy anymore without him bringing up "evil gay agenda's" and conspiracy theories.

[Ezra]

Brothers.
Are there any traders amongst you?
I shall gladly trade 1000 kmcs for one Glenn Beck any day.
What say ye?
No, brothers, that is not a good enough deal for you, my brothers. I shall gladly give 10,000 kmcs for one Glenn Beck on this or any other day.
dc

I think kmc is part of the majority. Not as a sheeple. As a wolf in sheeples clothing.

Our government with its liberty and free institutions will not long survive a government-trained and supervised youth. Such a youth can be a revolutionary machine. The ravening wolves are amongst us, from our own membership, and they, more than any others, are clothed in sheep’s clothing because they wear the habiliments of the priesthood . . . we should be careful of them.
Pres. J. Reuben Clark church News 6/15/40 & CR Apr 49


He is still a child of God. And as such I will continue to try help my brother out.

[Ezra]

Glenn Beck. I knew it.

Explains a lot.

Does Glenn Beck have an annoyingly paranoid side to all his stuff? I wonder because my dad watches him a lot and he believes everyone is out to get him or force socialism down his throat etc..etc..etc.. blah blah blah I can't even talk to the guy anymore without him bringing up "evil gay agenda's" and conspiracy theories.

I don't watch or listen to glen beck myself. I would rather read the scriptures for my understanding of current events. Nor do I know how the topic got to Glenn beck?

[ajax]

Glenn Beck. I knew it.

Explains a lot.

Yeah, I don't like Beck, but the facts regarding the pledge pre-date Beck. I think the pledge is awful nationalistic garbage. I can't imagine it being versed by the likes of Jefferson, Henry etc. Maybe Hamilton tho.

Brothers.
Are there any traders amongst you?
I shall gladly trade 1000 kmcs for one Glenn Beck any day.
What say ye?
No, brothers, that is not a good enough deal for you, my brothers. I shall gladly give 10,000 kmcs for one Glenn Beck on this or any other day.
dc

I think kmc is part of the majority. Not as a sheeple. As a wolf in sheeples clothing.

Our government with its liberty and free institutions will not long survive a government-trained and supervised youth. Such a youth can be a revolutionary machine. The ravening wolves are amongst us, from our own membership, and they, more than any others, are clothed in sheep’s clothing because they wear the habiliments of the priesthood . . . we should be careful of them.
Pres. J. Reuben Clark church News 6/15/40 & CR Apr 49


He is still a child of God. And as such I will continue to try help my brother out.

kmc's perspective is good around here. And I don't think he's a "wolf in sheeples clothing". Silly.

[Ezra]

Glenn Beck. I knew it.

Explains a lot.

Yeah, I don't like Beck, but the facts regarding the pledge pre-date Beck. I think the pledge is awful nationalistic garbage. I can't imagine it being versed by the likes of Jefferson, Henry etc. Maybe Hamilton tho.

Brothers.
Are there any traders amongst you?
I shall gladly trade 1000 kmcs for one Glenn Beck any day.
What say ye?
No, brothers, that is not a good enough deal for you, my brothers. I shall gladly give 10,000 kmcs for one Glenn Beck on this or any other day.
dc

I think kmc is part of the majority. Not as a sheeple. As a wolf in sheeples clothing.

Our government with its liberty and free institutions will not long survive a government-trained and supervised youth. Such a youth can be a revolutionary machine. The ravening wolves are amongst us, from our own membership, and they, more than any others, are clothed in sheep’s clothing because they wear the habiliments of the priesthood . . . we should be careful of them.
Pres. J. Reuben Clark church News 6/15/40 & CR Apr 49


He is still a child of God. And as such I will continue to try help my brother out.

kmc's perspective is good around here. And I don't think he's a "wolf in sheeples clothing". Silly.

Where you educated in government schools? Your perspective might be off then.

[KMCopeland]

Glenn Beck. I knew it.

Explains a lot.

This explains a lot.

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You should be ashamed of that.

[Ezra]

Glenn Beck. I knew it.

Explains a lot.

This explains a lot.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gvuulZPbfBg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You should be ashamed of that.

Why should I be ashamed of somone eles oppinion? And scientific proofs of human development? Women and men are diffrent. When a woman has all the characteristics of a man. Well if it looks like a duck walks like a duck sound like a duck. It's a duck.

Believe me. It's not something I wanted to belive untell I studyed its in detail.

[gkearney]

And here is the original salute called the Bellamy Salute:


Nice, right?!

In fairness to Bellamy the salute, shown in the image, was first used in 1892 and was in used into the the 1920's and early 1930's. It was derived from the Roman salute. It fell out of use one it was adopted by the Italian fascists and the Nazis in the 1930's. Much like the swastika this is an example of how appropriation by sinister forces can change the meaning of a symbol over time.

[Ezra]

And here is the original salute called the Bellamy Salute:


Nice, right?!

In fairness to Bellamy the salute, shown in the image, was first used in 1892 and was in used into the the 1920's and early 1930's. It was derived from the Roman salute. It fell out of use one it was adopted by the Italian fascists and the Nazis in the 1930's. Much like the swastika this is an example of how appropriation by sinister forces can change the meaning of a symbol over time.

Even being the roman salute. That's not the example us to follow is it?

A republic that turned democracy. Voted itself into poverty and corruption. But I guess that's exactly the coarse we are following isant it.

Sad we can't learn from the mistakes of the past.

[gkearney]

Even being the roman salute. That's not the example us to follow is it?

A republic that turned democracy. Voted itself into poverty and corruption. But I guess that's exactly the coarse we are following isant it.

Sad we can't learn from the mistakes of the past.

While I will admit that Bellamy's use of the Roman salute was questionable at best what it was not was a Nazi or fascists salute which is what is often suggested.

[KMCopeland]

Kmc pride is the worst of all sins ... I come onto ldsff to try and help others not be decived by individuals like you. It's unfortunate for you I study the scriptures and prophets ...

About that pride thing ...

And tell me: is trying to help others understand that Michelle Obama is a man part of the exalted task you've set for yourself?

Ugh.

[KMCopeland]

And here is the original salute called the Bellamy Salute:


Nice, right?!

In fairness to Bellamy the salute, shown in the image, was first used in 1892 and was in used into the the 1920's and early 1930's. It was derived from the Roman salute. It fell out of use one it was adopted by the Italian fascists and the Nazis in the 1930's. Much like the swastika this is an example of how appropriation by sinister forces can change the meaning of a symbol over time.

Even being the roman salute. That's not the example us to follow is it?

You're straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.

[Ezra]

And here is the original salute called the Bellamy Salute:


Nice, right?!

In fairness to Bellamy the salute, shown in the image, was first used in 1892 and was in used into the the 1920's and early 1930's. It was derived from the Roman salute. It fell out of use one it was adopted by the Italian fascists and the Nazis in the 1930's. Much like the swastika this is an example of how appropriation by sinister forces can change the meaning of a symbol over time.

Even being the roman salute. That's not the example us to follow is it?

You're straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.[/quote]

Nope not at all. Do some research on why our founding fathers didn't want a democracy.

[marktheshark]

And here is the original salute called the Bellamy Salute:


Nice, right?!

A salute or sustaining outer sign/manifestation is found in the walls of our own church buildings and temples.

We raise our arm to the square when we sustain church leaders.

It's all about context and intent.


The Bellamy salute was not some nazi-esque sign.

[Ezra]

The scriptures talk about how the secret combinations had there signs and oaths. That they were past down from satan and have always been the same.

The prophets wouldn't talk about or say what they were in scripture.

The thought I just had is this.

Hitler was obviously evil and a socialist Communist. Bellamy was a socialist. Roam which became currupt to its destruction was ripe with evil men as well.

How do we know that the Roman salute was not all part of the same oaths and signs of the secret combanations?

That's why I say roman culture isant something we should follow.

[wargames83]

And here is the original salute called the Bellamy Salute:


Nice, right?!

In fairness to Bellamy the salute, shown in the image, was first used in 1892 and was in used into the the 1920's and early 1930's. It was derived from the Roman salute. It fell out of use one it was adopted by the Italian fascists and the Nazis in the 1930's. Much like the swastika this is an example of how appropriation by sinister forces can change the meaning of a symbol over time.

Even being the roman salute. That's not the example us to follow is it?

A republic that turned democracy. Voted itself into poverty and corruption. But I guess that's exactly the coarse we are following isant it.

Sad we can't learn from the mistakes of the past.

I thought Rome was a Republic that turned into a dictatorship starting with Julius Caesar. Have you been reading some alternative universe history where things pan out differently?

[Ezra]

Nice, right?!

In fairness to Bellamy the salute, shown in the image, was first used in 1892 and was in used into the the 1920's and early 1930's. It was derived from the Roman salute. It fell out of use one it was adopted by the Italian fascists and the Nazis in the 1930's. Much like the swastika this is an example of how appropriation by sinister forces can change the meaning of a symbol over time.

Even being the roman salute. That's not the example us to follow is it?

A republic that turned democracy. Voted itself into poverty and corruption. But I guess that's exactly the coarse we are following isant it.

Sad we can't learn from the mistakes of the past.

I thought Rome was a Republic that turned into a dictatorship starting with Julius Caesar. Have you been reading some alternative universe history where things pan out differently?[/quote]

Yes started as one. Turned democratic then a dictator.
Democracy's always end violently and are short lived.