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My heart goes out to those who suffer from PTSD. A friend on my fb posted this, and I thought it might be helpful to pass along. All the veterans and their families who suffer from the effects of this...it cannot be an easy thing to live through. It is not just veterans and their families that suffer, but even others outside the military. But one who is humble, who loves his or her family would get help, just as would one who suffered from a mental disorder and chooses to get help.

I have a question, does part of having a humble and repentant attitude mean one is willing to seek help if they need it?

Where does the atonement come in, and where does doing all we can do to receive help come in?

I just was hoping for some ideas on this?

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Seriously want to get over it?

Two ways:

$7 http://freeneville.com/ptsd-free-how-to ... agination/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

energy healing (I'd suggest EFT).

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Hmm, I get PTSD everytime I read some of the posters here---

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The Lord is the only one who can heal this problem permanently. It is a spiritual problem and needs a spiritual cure. So are all other emotional problems. You can go take pills and talk to other people if you want, but those things aren't going to do any permanent good unless the Lord's power is behind them. They might help for a little while, but they cannot heal you forever like the atonement can.

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Here's from the site:
"Two types of treatment have been shown to be effective for treating PTSD: counseling and medication. Professional counseling can help you understand your thoughts and discover ways to cope with your feelings. Medications, called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, are used to help you feel less worried or sad."

OUCH, NO, NO, NO!! IMO, those are about the two WORST things one could do.

Check out those other two options that work SOOO much better.

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JohnnyL wrote:Seriously want to get over it?

Two ways:

$7 http://freeneville.com/ptsd-free-how-to ... agination/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

energy healing (I'd suggest EFT).
What is EFT?

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I've tried energy healing before and it's always very expensive and not guaranteed. Also, the results tend to be iffy. I'd be very wary about trying an energy healing technique.

As I said before, faith in Christ can heal this problem and for free (as least in monetary costs). It's guaranteed to work. If anyone is interested in how to apply the atonement to this or other emotional difficulties, feel free to PM me.

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Called to Serve wrote:I've tried energy healing before and it's always very expensive and not guaranteed. Also, the results tend to be iffy. I'd be very wary about trying an energy healing technique.

As I said before, faith in Christ can heal this problem and for free (as least in monetary costs). It's guaranteed to work. If anyone is interested in how to apply the atonement to this or other emotional difficulties, feel free to PM me.
Called to Serve,
It would be interesting to see your ideas on this thread.

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Well, really, the process is individualized--each person will find healing in the way they specifically need. That is why it is so wonderful. I would say that there are probably a few things that are standard to each person however.

When I have needed to apply the atonement to an emotional difficulty, the Lord begins by helping me understand why I am struggling with the problem. I guess it's kind of like a therapy session. He will reveal to me the things in my past, the present needs that aren't getting met, or whatever factor it is that is causing the problem. As He does, He also cleanses me of these things or shows me how to address them.

At times, repentance on my part is called for and that is the next step if it is necessary. He grants me the desire and ability to repent by helping me see how my actions are affecting others according to God's perspective. When I understand how Heavenly Father is grieved by my sins, I desire to repent and also feel the power through the atonement to do so.

Other times it is forgiveness that is needed. I would say this is perhaps the case with PTSD. The Lord will guide me to understand just why the actions of someone else hurt me and help me release those feelings. Of course, at times the person I am seeking forgiveness for is myself. Sometimes the forgiveness is swift but other times it takes a long time. A couple of problems continued to bother me for years after I sought the Lord for help with them. However, in His time, they were resolved and the pain healed. Often an additional spiritual insight was granted to me because of the extra effort necessary to find peace in these things.

During the time of greatest emotional distress during my life, frequent priesthood blessings were necessary. I learned to ask for them when the Spirit prompted or I would soon face an emotional trial beyond my ability to stand. Through the guidance given me in the blessings and the spiritual power that came upon me as a result of those blessings, I was able to overcome the depression that I suffered during this period of time. That experience solidified in me the understanding that Christ and Christ only can heal us from emotional trauma. Other methods are only temporary and will not heal the underlying problem which is caused by a separation from God.

You know, minus the pills, the process is not too terribly different from what you might expect from a wise counselor here on earth. However, no counselor can reach into your heart and soothe the hurt and pain there. Only Christ has that power. Only Christ can not only give you understanding of your difficulties, but can also lift the pain right up off of you and take it upon Himself. He will do it if you only ask Him to.

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EFT is Emotional Freedom Technique. You will find a lot of free videos on youtube, for example, that show examples. There are many different other types, too, and different practitioners.

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Called to Serve wrote:I've tried energy healing before and it's always very expensive and not guaranteed. Also, the results tend to be iffy. I'd be very wary about trying an energy healing technique.

As I said before, faith in Christ can heal this problem and for free (as least in monetary costs). It's guaranteed to work. If anyone is interested in how to apply the atonement to this or other emotional difficulties, feel free to PM me.
Expensive and not guaranteed? Not usually the case! I know about 10 people who will do a great job for $60 or under/ hour or session. Perhaps that is very expensive to you...? Is $180 very expensive to cure bipolar disorder, or save a marriage? Is $60 too expensive to cure a life-long limiting phobia (or two or three), or cure a strong dislike of marriage? Is $60 too expensive to overcome/ get rid of learning disabilities, or overcome porn addiction? And remember, that might be in one hour.

I'm curious, who have you used, how much was it, what were the results, what was your experience?

Let me ask a few other questions:
1. How much does a doctor visit and drugs cost?
2. How much does a counseling session cost?
3. Are any of those guaranteed?

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Yes, $60/session is expensive and that is exactly how much I paid. The problem lies in the fact that it usually doesn't take one session to heal but many. I saw only a little improvement in 4 sessions, which added up to almost $250. I got much better results from regular chiropractic. I should note it was a medical problem, not an emotional problem, which I was working on at the time.

My mother, however, did use energy therapy methods for emotional healing. She tried a variety and I don't know how much she paid. I don't know what she would say about their effectiveness, but I can say she doesn't use any of them anymore. I do know they all required multiple sessions and she couldn't afford to pay for them in full. She would work out deals with the practitioners or make other arrangements in order to pay for them.

That they are not guaranteed is something I saw all across the board. I have yet to meet an energy therapy practitioner who would refund your money if you didn't see results.

This is why I caution anyone seeking to use these methods. If someone would like to try them, I would just say to ask a lot of questions first, get referrals, etc. And then when you are using them, watch carefully for results. Don't let the sessions go on and on if you don't see results.

I see no reason for me to compare them to doctor's visits or counseling because I am not advocating those methods. I am advocating use of the atonement which is free and completely guaranteed to work, though I must admit you will probably be required to attend many more "sessions" than you would with energy therapy. The results are miraculous and will truly change your life forever. There will be no doubt in your mind that they have healed you and changed you. Energy therapy and any other method devised by man can never claim to have the same power as the atonement.

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I should note that when I extended the offer of PMing me, it was an offer to counsel individually with someone on how they personally can apply the atonement. If anyone would like to apply the atonement to one of their emotional problems and feel they need help doing so, feel free to PM me for help. I have been greatly blessed by the Lord and desire to share what I know with others.

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Called to Serve wrote:Yes, $60/session is expensive and that is exactly how much I paid. The problem lies in the fact that it usually doesn't take one session to heal but many. I saw only a little improvement in 4 sessions, which added up to almost $250. I got much better results from regular chiropractic. I should note it was a medical problem, not an emotional problem, which I was working on at the time.

My mother, however, did use energy therapy methods for emotional healing. She tried a variety and I don't know how much she paid. I don't know what she would say about their effectiveness, but I can say she doesn't use any of them anymore. I do know they all required multiple sessions and she couldn't afford to pay for them in full. She would work out deals with the practitioners or make other arrangements in order to pay for them.

That they are not guaranteed is something I saw all across the board. I have yet to meet an energy therapy practitioner who would refund your money if you didn't see results.

This is why I caution anyone seeking to use these methods. If someone would like to try them, I would just say to ask a lot of questions first, get referrals, etc. And then when you are using them, watch carefully for results. Don't let the sessions go on and on if you don't see results.

I see no reason for me to compare them to doctor's visits or counseling because I am not advocating those methods. I am advocating use of the atonement which is free and completely guaranteed to work, though I must admit you will probably be required to attend many more "sessions" than you would with energy therapy. The results are miraculous and will truly change your life forever. There will be no doubt in your mind that they have healed you and changed you. Energy therapy and any other method devised by man can never claim to have the same power as the atonement.
We've certainly had different experiences! Caution? Sure! If I don't see results in one session, I don't continue with that person/ method. That happens about one out of 10 times--not bad compared to trying to get anything healed by any "professional".

Some are guaranteed.

What method did you use? Some methods are much more suitable for certain things. I think an ethical worker would pass you off after two sessions with minimal gain, at the most.

If you want to see expensive, curing voices, bipolar, etc. can run $5,000 -$10,000 (guaranteed results) at a pscyhiatrist (but using energy healing, ha ha). So, all those things for all those prices? Priceless!! Oh, I mean $60 for many, priceless is what it is getting over PTSD and your life falling apart. If Jesus can do it for you, especially fast and in an emergency, awesome!!

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Hi there. I am looking to make a donation to MAPS, a wonderful organization that is doing a lot of work to help veterans suffering from PTSD. I would like to make the gift in honor of a Mormon soldier who committed suicide from PTSD, can anyone suggest someone I can make the donation for? Ideally it would be a story about this brave wounded warrior, but someone from the Mormon faith:
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This brave, patriotic soldier suffered miserably from the crippling medical issue of PTSD, and he did NOT have access to the most effective medicines available. He did not even get access to the VA! He would probably be alive if government policies prioritized public health and safety. The current situation is a travesty, and if we can spend literally trillions of dollars (including hundreds of billions of dollars of money literally “lost”), we can certainly find the funds to help the warriors themselves.

At any rate, I'm looking to help, and if anyone can forward me a story of a fallen Mormon wounded warrior, I would love to make my donation in his name.
God bless.


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JohnnyL wrote: November 6th, 2012, 7:04 am EFT is Emotional Freedom Technique. You will find a lot of free videos on youtube, for example, that show examples. There are many different other types, too, and different practitioners.

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Called to Serve wrote:I've tried energy healing before and it's always very expensive and not guaranteed. Also, the results tend to be iffy. I'd be very wary about trying an energy healing technique.

As I said before, faith in Christ can heal this problem and for free (as least in monetary costs). It's guaranteed to work. If anyone is interested in how to apply the atonement to this or other emotional difficulties, feel free to PM me.
Expensive and not guaranteed? Not usually the case! I know about 10 people who will do a great job for $60 or under/ hour or session. Perhaps that is very expensive to you...? Is $180 very expensive to cure bipolar disorder, or save a marriage? Is $60 too expensive to cure a life-long limiting phobia (or two or three), or cure a strong dislike of marriage? Is $60 too expensive to overcome/ get rid of learning disabilities, or overcome porn addiction? And remember, that might be in one hour.

I'm curious, who have you used, how much was it, what were the results, what was your experience?

Let me ask a few other questions:
1. How much does a doctor visit and drugs cost?
2. How much does a counseling session cost?
3. Are any of those guaranteed?
Wow... I wonder what Christ would say to this . Heck who needs priesthood blessing when u got 60$ and hour to spare. Who needs patience and faith to overcome sin when you have energy building Johnny and $40. Sign me up. This is like some Old Testament priestcraft old school lol

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Wow. Old thread. I've come a long, long way since I made the comments I did here on this thread. Since then, I got much more involved in energy healing. I would consider myself much more qualified now to talk about energy healing.

I believe that when God heals, he does so by moving energy. It's how he creates as well. Initially, the Lord will usually heal you just because you asked him. Just like an infant who cries in hunger will be given milk, the Lord will give you what you need just for asking.

But he also expects you to grow up and learn how to do things yourself. There are spiritual laws under which energy manipulation must be used. If you use it inappropriately, you could be badly hurt, like using fire or electricity. So as you continue to seek healing through Christ (for all problems emotional and physical) you will be guided by the Spirit to learn specific principles. These principles aren't kept secret. They are in the scriptures, particularly in the sermon on the mount.

While I don't condemn any person for charging for energy healing or for paying for energy healing, I have personally come to the opinion that doing so is priestcraft. This is the power of God, and using it to make money is taking something that God gives you freely and charging money for it. In this world where making a living is so difficult, it's totally understandable that people would feel the need to charge for these gifts.

When Jesus lived on earth, he healed freely without any charge to others. All he required was for people to have faith. When he left earth, his disciple Peter walked in his footsteps and healed people as well, even raising people from the dead as Jesus had. He is an example we are intended to follow. Peter did not charge either and supposedly (considering the injunction he was under from the Lord) depended solely on the Lord to provide for his needs.

Do you know what would happen if every person on earth learned to work by energy and relied on the Lord to support them? The earth would return to the state it was in when Adam and Eve were in the garden of Eden. It begins with faith in the Lord and repentance.

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All I know is that PTSD is real, I've gone most of my life not knowing what was wrong with me. I jump at loud notices, anxiety, migraine headaches, insomnia etc. I grew up in a war zone I.e. My mom and dad, they both had raging tempers and we never knew what to expect. My Mother had borderline personality disorder, so we lived with mental illness too. Knowledge is power, just knowing helps me.

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eddie wrote: May 21st, 2017, 1:33 pm All I know is that PTSD is real, I've gone most of my life not knowing what was wrong with me. I jump at loud notices, anxiety, migraine headaches, insomnia etc. I grew up in a war zone I.e. My mom and dad, they both had raging tempers and we never knew what to expect. My Mother had borderline personality disorder, so we lived with mental illness too. Knowledge is power, just knowing helps me.
Yes, it is real. Just like a lot of other things the world has been slow to accept, and often still doesn't, and in this telestial state, never will. Since it's real, yet many won't really accept it, I posted this website http://stressproject.org , hoping others could see that over 18,000 soldiers have been HEALED from PTSD, by energy healing (mostly EFT), and that there is hope. Best wishes.

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