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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby LateOutOfBed » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:35 am

I just like how the "Romneyites" can't see past their own noses to see that he IS THE EXACT SAME AS OBAMA! He's not even slightly less "evil" in his political decisions. There's evidence after evidence that he would do the exact thing as Obama has done. But because he has the priesthood, he's somehow better.

And I don't say that Ron Paul is much better... He's got some severe issues as well. (But I'll still be labeled a "paulista" by old man "bobby" and Juliette)

Whatever... I've come to the conclusion that voting is officially stupid. It doesn't matter what we really want, every real contestant is merely a puppet. The only thing that could save our country is repentance. I've realized that it's way more important for me to teach the Gospel of Christ than it is to vote. That will have a longer and more profound impact than voting. Teaching repentance and repenting myself is WAY more important than voting.

I wouldn't even be surprised to see a "false flag" assassination attempt on Obama to pump up his popularity significantly prior to the election, and increase racial tensions here. And if that doesn't work... hrm... something else is that is HUGE is likely to happen that will help keep him in office. It's just so happened over the last 2 presidents. Why on earth would they change that now?

Even if Romney does win... nothing will change, acceleration right over the doom cliff for America is what it'll be. It won't be long when we're the Disunited, enslaved states of Amerika thanks to people like Obama and Romeny... complete puppets of the LDGs that wish to enslave us. And you've all bought and sold into the sad paradigm, and don't care because "he has the priesthood". That's the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. His actions show he doesn't hold the power of the priesthood, even if he has been ordained to an office in the priesthood. Plenty of talks have been given about that! But let's just put on the blinders and ignore the prophets of all people.

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Postby BlueMoon5 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:47 am

LateOutOfBed wrote:I just like how the "Romneyites" can't see past their own noses to see that he IS THE EXACT SAME AS OBAMA!


You're quite sure of that, are you? Really? So, according to you:

1) Romney supports same-sex marriage.
2) Romney believes Big Government--not private enterprise--is the best way to create jobs.
3) Romney has intimidated the Supreme Court.
4) Romney doesn't think small businesses are over-regulated.
5) Romney supports Ombamacare and will not repeal it.
6) Romney doesn't understand free enterprise and how the economy works.
7) Romney believes there should not be equity between the salaries of government employees and those who work in the private sector.
8) Romney is a socialist
9) Romney will not cut government jobs; rather, he will increase them.
10) Romney believes you can spend your way out of debt.
11) Romney has never had to meet a payroll.
12) Romney was heavily influenced by a radical, America-hating preacher for circa 20 years.

That's just the short list. Are you sure, LateOutOfBed, that you have been following the exchanges between Obama and Romney? Your site name suggests, at a minimum, that you're not reading a morning newspaper.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Col. Flagg » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:44 am

BlueMoon5 wrote:Your site name suggests, at a minimum, that you're not reading a morning newspaper.

There's your problem BM. :ymblushing:
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby BlueMoon5 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:01 pm

Col. Flagg wrote:
BlueMoon5 wrote:Your site name suggests, at a minimum, that you're not reading a morning newspaper.

There's your problem BM. :ymblushing:


Your problem, Flagg, is that you can muster no credible response to the 12 items I listed.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby liberty_belle » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:35 pm

Kandeep

First let me explain about primary's. What we held in February was not our Primary. AZ made up another election called the Presidential Preference Election. Most people want this done away with because it is only a beauty contest. Our Primary is not even until August 28th! Yet, the RNC rules say that if you hold your Primary before their specific date "super Tuesday" you can be penalized. Well, our Governor knowing there would be a penalty moved our PPE (not our Primary) up one week before that date and as a result the RNC took away half of our delegates.

Well, we did not move up our Primary, we moved up the PPE and therefore we should not have been penalized. The RNC told us they would see how things went after our Convention to decide whether or not they would give us back our delegates. Why do you suppose they wanted to wait til after the Convention to decided? After our convention, they have refused to give us our delegates....I will let you draw your own conclusion on that.

The news is the one who makes a big deal out of PPE's and Primary's as though those were the final say in who will be the nominee. This is why so many people are upset because they do not understand the process by which one comes to be nominated. In times past when people could not be manipulated by diabold machines and all votes were counted publicly, they could not get away with what they do today. They had to go through the process of delegates before winners were declared. This whole process they do now is an elaborate scheme to discount the delegation.

Schools have failed to teach the election process properly so, people who just get their info from the news, is up in arms when their popular vote doesn't rule the world. For decades the RNC and DNC have been able to completely control the masses by their electronic machines and the news media who declares winners long before the actual convention, where the nomination process actually takes place. With the movement of liberty, their little fake controlled world is being exposed and its shattering people's paradigm. This binding process is what has screwed the real intent up. No one should ever be bound by a unity rule because we are all individuals.


As to your questions about who I represent:

First as PC, I had to walk my neighborhood and get signatures on a petition that said I could be on the ballot to become a PC. This is the very basic level of government. I always tell them what I believe, I never lie or misrepresent myself to anyone. When you sign my petition you say that you feel that I could represent our precinct. In my PC we have 10 positions, I have never been contested because very few people care about the process. They feel warm and fuzzy because they went to the ballot box and cast a popular vote.

I was elected as a PC two years ago and again just last week (its a two year term) One of the most important jobs is that we elect who our local GOP Reps will be and the our state GOP. Come January we will be electing a new GOP. If those whom we elected let us down, we get them out. Trust me when I tell you, come this election, I would be shocked if our current GOP was reelected after all that has gone on.

Next, during election years, I continue to represent myself and my PC with what I believe and who I support. I never lie about that and no one I know who was elected as State Delegates lied about that. As PC's we all knew when we voted where we all stood and who we would support at the Delegation. I only voted for those candidates (these did not have to be PC's they just had to apply, but the PC are the only ones who get a vote) that I knew would support Ron Paul. I never voted for anyone who supported Romney. Out of 58 delegates for Pinal County RP got half the delegates, so there was a good balance of both campaigns being represented. This is why if you want a voice in the process of selecting the nominee for President, you have to do more than just go to your ballot box. That is just the first step to give the news media a way to manipulate people's thinking.

The Delegate process is the checks and balances that are put in place for mob rule. Those who are truly invested in the process are those who usually vett the candidates. If you did not take part in this process your part is done, you pass the gauntlet to the PC's and you have no more room to gripe or complain.

As an elected delegate going to the State Convention, I am an individual according the Civil Laws on voting, just like I am when I go to the ballot box. However, at the State Convention we vote on those delegates who will represent AZ, but as individuals. This is the law we want defined because the RNC claims they are a private organization, but in reality they determine the outcome of who will be the next president and so it effects everyone. They cannot have immunity from obeying civil rights laws. A person's civil right is that they are not allowed to be bullied or threatened in any way to vote for something/someone they are against. That is the law. Yet, somehow for years State's have gotten away with binding delegates by a unity rule. Mind you the difference between rule and law.

So, in the State Conventions its all about voting for those people who you believe will continue to support your candidate and belief. In AZ we had 1200-/+ who had been elected but only 1147 actually showed up.

For those delegates who were elected but did not show up, the rule is that the alternates that were elected take their place by order of according to how many votes they received. In pinal all of our 12 alternates, who were RP Supporters, were seated because some Romney delegates did not show up. So right there, Romney lost support. That is how it works. As the day went on in AZ by 5 pm half of the delegation had left. They were 99% Romney Supporters. Once you leave you disqualify yourself from any further vote and they knew this.

When a delegate has to leave early they are to turn in their badges so an alternate can be seated. However, in our convention the Romney supporters who left by the hundreds, did not turn in their badges so alternates could not be seated. However, each district could have done a head count and then seat the alternates but the GOP changed the rules in the middle of the convention so they could not be seated. The reason for that was so that they could not maintain a quorum and they Alternates were all RP supporters and they knew they would be outvoted.

In AZ, the first elections were in our individual Congressional Districts. We were to vote for 1 A Delegate and 2 Alternates that would go to Tampa. I only voted for those delegates who would support Ron Paul. Unfortunately this is where the vote rigging started for us. However, in a fair election this would be a good thing because each CD would have at least one person from their district being represented. For me, I wanted RP delegates to take all three, but if they didn't and as long as it was fair, I have no problem with how the votes came out.

Next, we went down to the main floor where the rest of the 19 delegates and 19 alternates were elected...again in a fair election this would also not be a problem, but it was for us because of the mismanagement of ballots and deliberate plot to make sure that all 31 delegates were Romney supporters. If this had been fair, I would have no problem with it, but its the lying and cheating to make this outcome that I have a problem with.

Now, since I did not apply to be a National Delegate I passed the gauntlet over to those 29 Delegates to vote their conscience. Once in Tampa Some RP or MR Delegate could change their mind when they get to Tampa and vote differently. I don't have a say in that because I have done my part and that is where it ends. Would I be miffed if my RP Delegate change their mind, sure, but I am not them, I am not going through the process so I do not know what has caused the change of heart. Regardless, this is the process and everyone who feels they have bee slighted needs to get educated. Figure out what you need to do to become a PC, it starts there.

Let me explain the difference between being a Delegate vs a Legislature. First, the Legislatures are directly voted on by the people to represent them. Popular vote is how they are elected. They do answer directly to the people and they take an oath to uphold the Constitution. As a Delegate no such oath is ever taken because I represent myself, but I do also represent those who put me there in the whole process, but nothing binds me to those who elected me. If I change my mind and go against what I said I would, they have the right to not vote for me as a PC in the next election. Its that simple. However, do you know how many people I talked to in my neighborhood who did not even know what a PC was? Do you know how many people were not even registered to vote?

Those who want to destroy freedom have known for years where the power is. Its time you all know where it is too!
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby liberty_belle » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:56 pm

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Liberty_belle I applaud your convictions, you wanting to make the world right...and are willing to get up off your tush and try and do something about it- kudos! There are lots of arm chair quarterbacks but bless you for your active efforts in following your heart.


Thank you Karend77: Its been hard, but I know to whom I have to stand before on what I did do.


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Juliette---I feel you have fallen into a trap with Bob. I dont believe you are the same kind of person as he is. He said he purposefully goaded me into trying to do a lawsuit to trap me to hurt and expose me. Do you really want to be that kind of person who hurts others? I respect your right to vote and support Romney, but what Bob is doing and saying is pure evil. I dont believe you have that kind of heart. I believe you are naive, but not purposefully manipulative and hurtful. like Bob.

What I am doing has never been about Ron Paul, its always been about following the rule of law and civil liberties. Doing what is right even in the face of antagonism and mocking.

What I said about being able to sit back and watch Romney as President unfold his leadership and his support for unconstitutional laws, I meant. I believe it will only be then that those of you who have been blind to Romney will be able to see that he is not going to be there to protect your civil liberties and I think only then you will come to understand that not much will have changed.

I believe morally Romney is better than Obama, but if you are willing to sell out your countrymen to laws like the NDAA, it does not matter if you're moral or not. Morality is a personal thing between you and God. What you do you to strip others of liberties is not.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby liberty_belle » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:59 pm

Oh, I keep forgetting to post this

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumZzI2bVlON2VTMnFyYVZZSnpDYnNyQQ/edit?pli=1

here is just some of the evidences that people have been working on for months to show how the diabold machines were flipping votes to favor Romney. I had actually been keeping up with this for a few months before our Convention happened...
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby LateOutOfBed » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:41 pm

BlueMoon5 wrote:
Col. Flagg wrote:
BlueMoon5 wrote:Your site name suggests, at a minimum, that you're not reading a morning newspaper.

There's your problem BM. :ymblushing:


Your problem, Flagg, is that you can muster no credible response to the 12 items I listed.


Will you even see it straight from the horses mouth?



The problem is, you won't accept anything from credible sources as credible anyways... so what's the point?

For any of your 12 points not addressed... well I"m talking policies in general. Not every action he's performed. Give him time in office and you just may see him threaten the supreme court... of course he needs his own lawyers to understand the constitution as he's even stated when it comes to the NDAA and it's legality. Anyways, I'm sure you'll just mark this as "drivel" as you do everything else of solid value and you'll just return attacks to my person instead of addressing anything contained herein.

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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Juliette » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:15 pm

liberty_belle wrote:
karend77 wrote:
Liberty_belle I applaud your convictions, you wanting to make the world right...and are willing to get up off your tush and try and do something about it- kudos! There are lots of arm chair quarterbacks but bless you for your active efforts in following your heart.


Thank you Karend77: Its been hard, but I know to whom I have to stand before on what I did do.


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Juliette---I feel you have fallen into a trap with Bob. I dont believe you are the same kind of person as he is. He said he purposefully goaded me into trying to do a lawsuit to trap me to hurt and expose me. Do you really want to be that kind of person who hurts others? I respect your right to vote and support Romney, but what Bob is doing and saying is pure evil. I dont believe you have that kind of heart. I believe you are naive, but not purposefully manipulative and hurtful. like Bob.

What I am doing has never been about Ron Paul, its always been about following the rule of law and civil liberties. Doing what is right even in the face of antagonism and mocking.

What I said about being able to sit back and watch Romney as President unfold his leadership and his support for unconstitutional laws, I meant. I believe it will only be then that those of you who have been blind to Romney will be able to see that he is not going to be there to protect your civil liberties and I think only then you will come to understand that not much will have changed.

I believe morally Romney is better than Obama, but if you are willing to sell out your countrymen to laws like the NDAA, it does not matter if you're moral or not. Morality is a personal thing between you and God. What you do you to strip others of liberties is not.



Liberty, you are wrong. I have not fallen into a trap. I am very aware of what I'm doing. If you went out into the REAL world, you would see, most people want Mitt Romney for the next President. Bob and I aren't alone or have fallen into anykind of trap.

Could you please post where he goaded you into a lawsuit? Do you think I have not been reading the threads! From what I've read it was you're only re-course, to threaten a lawsuit. I am not naive. Bob is not evil. Mitt Romney is who's important now. The rest is history.

P.S. I do hope we can remain friends when this is over! :ymhug:
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Juliette » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:15 pm

LateOutOfBed wrote:I just like how the "Romneyites" can't see past their own noses to see that he IS THE EXACT SAME AS OBAMA! He's not even slightly less "evil" in his political decisions. There's evidence after evidence that he would do the exact thing as Obama has done. But because he has the priesthood, he's somehow better.

And I don't say that Ron Paul is much better... He's got some severe issues as well. (But I'll still be labeled a "paulista" by old man "bobby" and Juliette)

Whatever... I've come to the conclusion that voting is officially stupid. It doesn't matter what we really want, every real contestant is merely a puppet. The only thing that could save our country is repentance. I've realized that it's way more important for me to teach the Gospel of Christ than it is to vote. That will have a longer and more profound impact than voting. Teaching repentance and repenting myself is WAY more important than voting.

I wouldn't even be surprised to see a "false flag" assassination attempt on Obama to pump up his popularity significantly prior to the election, and increase racial tensions here. And if that doesn't work... hrm... something else is that is HUGE is likely to happen that will help keep him in office. It's just so happened over the last 2 presidents. Why on earth would they change that now?

Even if Romney does win... nothing will change, acceleration right over the doom cliff for America is what it'll be. It won't be long when we're the Disunited, enslaved states of Amerika thanks to people like Obama and Romeny... complete puppets of the LDGs that wish to enslave us. And you've all bought and sold into the sad paradigm, and don't care because "he has the priesthood". That's the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard. His actions show he doesn't hold the power of the priesthood, even if he has been ordained to an office in the priesthood. Plenty of talks have been given about that! But let's just put on the blinders and ignore the prophets of all people.

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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Juliette » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:16 pm

BlueMoon5 wrote:
LateOutOfBed wrote:I just like how the "Romneyites" can't see past their own noses to see that he IS THE EXACT SAME AS OBAMA!


You're quite sure of that, are you? Really? So, according to you:

1) Romney supports same-sex marriage.
2) Romney believes Big Government--not private enterprise--is the best way to create jobs.
3) Romney has intimidated the Supreme Court.
4) Romney doesn't think small businesses are over-regulated.
5) Romney supports Ombamacare and will not repeal it.
6) Romney doesn't understand free enterprise and how the economy works.
7) Romney believes there should not be equity between the salaries of government employees and those who work in the private sector.
8) Romney is a socialist
9) Romney will not cut government jobs; rather, he will increase them.
10) Romney believes you can spend your way out of debt.
11) Romney has never had to meet a payroll.
12) Romney was heavily influenced by a radical, America-hating preacher for circa 20 years.

That's just the short list. Are you sure, LateOutOfBed, that you have been following the exchanges between Obama and Romney? Your site name suggests, at a minimum, that you're not reading a morning newspaper.

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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby BlueMoon5 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:18 pm

="LateOutOfBed" [and others] For any of your 12 points not addressed... well I"m talking policies in general. Not every action he's performed. Give him time in office and you just may see him threaten the supreme court. . . .


"May," "might," "could," "perhaps," "possibly," "perchance"--I've read more inept responses but I can't remember when. You didn't use all those words, but they are in the same category as may.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby LateOutOfBed » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:20 pm

Juliette wrote:I'm not going to call you any names! ( poopy pants) :D


Really? It's not funny... it never was.

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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Juliette » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:21 pm

LateOutOfBed wrote:
Juliette wrote:I'm not going to call you any names! ( poopy pants) :D


Really? It's not funny... it never was.

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Just teasing Geoff. I'm happy you are back.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby LateOutOfBed » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:22 pm

BlueMoon5 wrote:
"May," "might," "could," "perhaps," "possibly," "perchance"--I've read more inept responses but I can't remember when. You didn't use all those words, but they are in the same category as may.


Wow, just the "inept" response I expected! Good job BlueMoon for living up to such low expectations. Did you even watch the video? It covers the "policy" issues which will remain the same under Romney. They are from the same brand of politicians... neither care about our freedoms.

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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby BlueMoon5 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:11 pm

LateOutOfBed wrote:
BlueMoon5 wrote:
"May," "might," "could," "perhaps," "possibly," "perchance"--I've read more inept responses but I can't remember when. You didn't use all those words, but they are in the same category as may.


Wow, just the "inept" response I expected!


I didn't want to disappoint you. :)
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby liberty_belle » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:00 pm

Lawyers for Ron Paul---my hero's

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150882566391275&set=oa.413480315351878&type=1

Juliette--okay, I guess I just thought you were different. I guess not

Go back and read Bob's words very carefully on the first page.

Then if you like, go to the thread about my firsthand experience at the AZ GOP and see how he pushed and goaded, with you as his biggest cheerleader. Nothing but an expensive lawsuit would satisfy either of you. No a lawsuit never had to be involved. A simple request from the ATT Gen to do an investigation was all that it needed.

I dont care whether or not you like Romney. I dont care whether or not 50+1 likes Romney, (isnt that how we got Obama, and people told us to be quiet and just accept him even though there was evidence he was not even eligible) we have an obligation and duty to expose lying, cheating and criminal acts. would you agree? That is what I am doing and if it so happens to fall a Romney's door step, so be it. He should not have been to eager to please the TPTB and instead please the God who inspired the Constitution.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Juliette » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:47 pm

liberty_belle wrote:Lawyers for Ron Paul---my hero's

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150882566391275&set=oa.413480315351878&type=1

Juliette--okay, I guess I just thought you were different. I guess not

Go back and read Bob's words very carefully on the first page.

Then if you like, go to the thread about my firsthand experience at the AZ GOP and see how he pushed and goaded, with you as his biggest cheerleader. Nothing but an expensive lawsuit would satisfy either of you. No a lawsuit never had to be involved. A simple request from the ATT Gen to do an investigation was all that it needed.

I dont care whether or not you like Romney. I dont care whether or not 50+1 likes Romney, (isnt that how we got Obama, and people told us to be quiet and just accept him even though there was evidence he was not even eligible) we have an obligation and duty to expose lying, cheating and criminal acts. would you agree? That is what I am doing and if it so happens to fall a Romney's door step, so be it. He should not have been to eager to please the TPTB and instead please the God who inspired the Constitution.


It seems that you do care. Why so much emotion?
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby bobhenstra » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:09 pm

Ta Ta Ta TAAAAAAA, Important announcement to all you who haven't heard;

RON PAUL LOST!

Ta Ta Ta TAAAAAAAA :ymparty: :ymparty: :ymparty:
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby liberty_belle » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:21 am

Juliette wrote:
liberty_belle wrote:Lawyers for Ron Paul---my hero's

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150882566391275&set=oa.413480315351878&type=1

Juliette--okay, I guess I just thought you were different. I guess not

Go back and read Bob's words very carefully on the first page.

Then if you like, go to the thread about my firsthand experience at the AZ GOP and see how he pushed and goaded, with you as his biggest cheerleader. Nothing but an expensive lawsuit would satisfy either of you. No a lawsuit never had to be involved. A simple request from the ATT Gen to do an investigation was all that it needed.

I dont care whether or not you like Romney. I dont care whether or not 50+1 likes Romney, (isnt that how we got Obama, and people told us to be quiet and just accept him even though there was evidence he was not even eligible) we have an obligation and duty to expose lying, cheating and criminal acts. would you agree? That is what I am doing and if it so happens to fall a Romney's door step, so be it. He should not have been to eager to please the TPTB and instead please the God who inspired the Constitution.


It seems that you do care. Why so much emotion?


You dont get my point...I dont care whether or not you and 50%+1 like Romney or not its not going to change the fact that I am going to move forward with holding Him and all of his lemmings accountable. That is what I dont care about.

Why so much emotion? The problem is that having no emotion at all, is just another reason we are in this mess. if people would have been angry enough years and years ago to stop the criminals we wouldn't be having a discussion on whether or not its right to support a well-known flip-flopping moderate like Romney. That would be evident on what we should do.

For the last time-----what is this thread about? Is it about Romney vs Paul as a President? No, it is about holding accountable those who plotted to over-throw delegate votes. it is about forcing the Federal Judge to make a decision on what our civil rights are.

Why don't we all stick to what this post is about and talk about the real issues of criminality. For those of you who want to continue to put your head in the sand and ignore crimes against the people, then move on to another thread, please.

For the rest can we please document here the crimes against the people in all the states?
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby liberty_belle » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:33 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHlN5JWsw8&feature=player_embedded

Ya! Moving this to Tampa and it is our fight! That is what all this is about. We the People taking action to remove corruption
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Original_Intent » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:47 pm

liberty_belle wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHlN5JWsw8&feature=player_embedded

Ya! Moving this to Tampa and it is our fight! That is what all this is about. We the People taking action to remove corruption


Thanks for posting that! He is a great and humble man.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby uglypitbull » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:04 am

Here you go liberty... :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Nan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:31 am

it is about holding accountable those who plotted to over-throw delegate votes.

But aren't you trying to overthrow the people's vote?
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Juliette » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:45 am

Nan wrote:it is about holding accountable those who plotted to over-throw delegate votes.

But aren't you trying to overthrow the people's vote?


Thats exactly what they are trying to do. Its just a minor annoyance however.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby BlueMoon5 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:52 am

liberty_belle wrote:
Juliette wrote:
liberty_belle wrote:


: [url]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=For the last time-----what is this thread about? Is it about Romney vs Paul as a President? No, it is about holding accountable those who plotted to over-throw delegate votes. it is about forcing the Federal Judge to make a decision on what our civil rights are.


It's your biased opinion that Ron Paul was robbed of delegate votes. You cannot provide sufficient evidence to come within a country mile of proving that Ron Paul would be the GOP nominee if only he, ahem, hadn't been cheated of his "deserved" delegates. You should count your blessings (rather than instances of "fraud" at polling places). Why? Because if Ron Paul were to run against Obama on the national stage, Paul would be defeated in a landslide that would probably surpass the one Barry Goldwater suffered when he ran against Lyndon Johnson. Then where would the GOP be? Answer: In deep doo-doo.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby Rob » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:06 am

bobhenstra wrote:Ta Ta Ta TAAAAAAA, Important announcement to all you who haven't heard;

RON PAUL LOST!

Ta Ta Ta TAAAAAAAA :ymparty: :ymparty: :ymparty:
As soon as the incumbent is re-elected, this will be thrown right back at you. :ymcowboy:
"There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub, and exploit -- immortal horrors or everlasting splendours." C. S. Lewis
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby liberty_belle » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:09 pm

Nan wrote:it is about holding accountable those who plotted to over-throw delegate votes.

But aren't you trying to overthrow the people's vote?


How do you know it was the people's vote? Seriously did you not look at the link with the googledocs proving that the diabold machines were being flipped to take away from Paul and given to Romney? At times they were taken from Santorum and from Ginrich too, but always from Paul. Those docs are just a few of the hundreds of pages that actually a part of that investigation.

The truth is Nan and Juliette, Romney's votes were stolen from the people that supported Paul. Paul was the one who was winning from the very beginning.

So, let me get this straight, you are all up in arms that the Paul supporters have had enough of the cheating an lying and have taken action to expose these lies (yes, bad citizens) because through those lies and manipulation, it finally has come down to Romney being upheld in secret combination to get the nomination? Who thinks like this? Who supports a candidate who clearly has had to cheat to win?

Now you want to claim, after there is ample proof that Paul is the clear people's choice, that we are trying to overthrow the voice of the people? Unreal! I do not know what universe you guys live in but it is really crazy to me that you both could be that......I dont even know the word to use,
I would have said naive, but Julette stated the other day that she knows what she is doing and is happy about it....so...........?????????????????

Well, gals, keep getting angry because we are not going down without a fight. So get use to it. I, along with all the other freedom loving patriots, are going to make you and your candidate very uncomfortable.
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby liberty_belle » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:14 pm

[quote="BlueMoon5"

It's your biased opinion that Ron Paul was robbed of delegate votes. You cannot provide sufficient evidence to come within a country mile of proving that Ron Paul would be the GOP nominee if only he, ahem, hadn't been cheated of his "deserved" delegates. You should count your blessings (rather than instances of "fraud" at polling places). Why? Because if Ron Paul were to run against Obama on the national stage, Paul would be defeated in a landslide that would probably surpass the one Barry Goldwater suffered when he ran against Lyndon Johnson. Then where would the GOP be? Answer: In deep doo-doo.
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Baaahhhhaaaaa Bluemoon5---you have no idea what evidence we (ron paul supporters around the country) have! I love it when ignorant people speak on things that they know nothing about. Of course if you were paying any attention at all, you would know at least in part what some of the evidences are =;

As far as Paul running against Obama and losing, no more than your man Romney. =))
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Re: Its out of my hands now!

Postby BlueMoon5 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:29 pm

liberty_belle wrote:
[quote="BlueMoon5"

It's your biased opinion that Ron Paul was robbed of delegate votes. You cannot provide sufficient evidence to come within a country mile of proving that Ron Paul would be the GOP nominee if only he, ahem, hadn't been cheated of his "deserved" delegates. You should count your blessings (rather than instances of "fraud" at polling places). Why? Because if Ron Paul were to run against Obama on the national stage, Paul would be defeated in a landslide that would probably surpass the one Barry Goldwater suffered when he ran against Lyndon Johnson. Then where would the GOP be? Answer: In deep doo-doo.

: Baaahhhhaaaaa Bluemoon5---you have no idea what evidence we (ron paul supporters around the country) have! I love it when ignorant people speak on things that they know nothing about.


Don't be so hard on yourself.

: Of course if you were paying any attention at all, you would know at least in part what some of the evidences are.


Uh-huh. Indeed, your case is so compelling that it's all over the mainstream media. The 10 p.m. TV news in major markets has led with your "case" for weeks now, and the Romney campaign has been forced to issue a denial using TV ads, direct mail, and a press conference by Mitt himself. ;)

You won't be able to make even a squeak at the Republican National Convention in Tampa beginning on Aug. 27. You'll be seen for the sore losers that you are, and easily dispatched.

Get over it. Your whining is apauling.
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