LoveIsTruth wrote:Amending the Constitution is perfectly constitutional. So it does not violate that.freedomforall wrote:And that is to be subject to the powers that be...meaning governments.
freedomforall wrote:God telling us to befriend and uphold the Constitution which is the supreme law of the land, and current prophets telling us the same..
There is no conflict between befriending and improving it. Indeed one implies another. And you cannot defile, or adulterate the Constitution by adding more of God's words to it. So there is zero contradiction here.
freedomforall wrote:Therefore a righteous government and a righteous people would have no need of social control.
The Constitution was written for the world as it is, which means not everybody is righteous. Therefore it must contain means to prevent government plundering the people. It is a very simple idea actually, perfectly in harmony with the word of God.
freedomforall wrote:Good luck in your run for POTUS. Time to put you money where your mouth is, isn't it?
I don't need to runt for POTUS to propose just and good amendments to the Constitution.
LoveIsTruth wrote:"Thou shall not steal" is scripture. How am I tossing it by applying it to the government in the Constitution whose purpose, according to God, is to restrict the government and to protect the people?freedomforall wrote:God does not force people to keep his commandments does he? No. Satan's plan is accomplished by force.
You are confused. God uses force in defence of his property, and commanded his people to do the same. Incorporating a defence against government violence into the Constitution does not violate the agency of the people, but upholds it. Allowing government violence and plunder against the people does actually violate their agency. So you got it in reverse. I am protecting agency (freedom of property) of the people from violence and aggression of the government. That is just, and upholds agency, not destroys it. So you are incorrect. Only in your mind.
freedomforall wrote:You just plain cannot force people to live righteously.
No, but you can defend yourself and your family from the wicked as God commands. Defense is a lot different than coercion into compliance of law. Cliven Bundy is a great example of defending against government tyranny. But if he were to simply tell them to leave him alone they would just laugh at him. They could care less what the Constitution says because they broke the law big time just in going after him the way they did. So what good will it do to put new wording in that document when the government agencies wouldn't abide with them anyway. Now what are you going to propose? War? This will happen at some point when the good patriotic folks in this country say enough is enough.
freedomforall wrote:And even if you could change the Constitution the Judicial System would still do things their way because they have their own Constitution.
The more plain the Constitution against government plunder, the harder it is to twist, the harder it is to lie to the people, because remember, it is on deception (and resulting acquiescence) of the people that the whole plunder system is built. Expose the lie, and you end the consent of the people, who will realize they are being robbed. Now however, most believe the plunder is somehow justified. This is because they haven't been reading the Constitution and making sure it is abided by. Learning twisted ideas by the precepts of man is why they are so oblivious to their true privileges granted by the Constitution. BTW, the Constitution isn't based on granting rights, it is based on granting privileges.
The role of the Constitution is to broadcasts the truth across the sky, so that the deception becomes much harder to pull off or impossible. But with broad taxation clauses as it is, the Constitution does no such thing, and therefore is ineffective in its present form, because it seems to allow public taxation of private property, which is a violation of private property, which is a definition of evil and injustice itself.
The Constitution must be amended to remove this weakness in it. It is in perfect harmony with scriptures and the word of God who made the Constitution amendable for this very purpose. And indeed it is our duty to use our influence to do the best we can to improve it in this way, according to the provisions God made in the Constitution itself.
Are you wiser than he? No, that is why I accept the Constitution as is because he raised the very people he wanted to write it and he put his stamp of approval on it just the way it is. This, my friend, makes me very wise indeed. God is much wiser...because the wisdom of men is but foolishness to God. His words not mine.