Who helped build Chinas military? A friend or foe?

[dennis]

An Office of Naval Intelligence document reported that,

"US technology has been acquired (by China) through Israel in the form of the Lavi fighter and possibly SAM (surface-to-air) missile technology."
Jane's Defense Weekly (28 February 1996) noted that, "until now, the intelligence community has not openly confirmed the transfer of US technology (via Israel) to China." The report noted that this, "represents a dramatic step forward for Chinese military aviation." (Flight International, 13 March 1996).
2006: The Edmond De Rothschild Banque, a subsidiary of Europe's Edmond De Rothschild family bank group in France, becomes the first foreign family bank that has obtained approval of the China Banking Regulatory Commission and entered China's financial market.

Former CIA director R. James Woolsey informed the U.S. Senate in late 1993 that he was "alarmed" by the military partnership between Tel Aviv and Beijing, and officially accused Israel of "illegally supplying China with classified defense technology from sources in the West."
Woolsey revealed that Israel has been selling military technology to China for over a decade, and that the sales may amount to several billion dollars.
He said also that China will rely on Israeli expertise to create sophisticated airborne radar that employs super-secret technology that has been entrusted to Israel for another multibillion dollar joint project—production in Israel of the Arrow missile defense program which also has been funded largely by the United States.
Israel's Lavi fighter-bomber was designed to be one of the deadliest weapons in the air. However, it now has been revealed that after Israel discontinued the largely U.S.-funded project, it sold China the plans for the Lavi and the associated secret U.S. technology. This has enabled the Chinese to build their own version of this new generation of fighter aircraft.

The illegal transfer of plans for the Lavi aircraft from Tel Aviv to Beijing first became known by the Pentagon
China pledges to enhance bilateral ties, military links with Israel December 13, 2010
China and Israel should boost their bilateral relationship, as well as inter-military links, said Chinese Defense Minister Liang Guanglie in Beijing Monday.

Liang said China appreciated Israel's long-term and firm adherence to the one-China policy and attached great importance to developing friendly relations with the country.

Marom said Israel and China share the same views and values on many issues.
Evidence exists that China has neutron bombs stockpiled, and that the United States gave the Chinese the technology to build them.

Russia has a large quantity of such weapons, as well as the world's largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.

Israel has hundreds of neutron weapons. The neutron bombs would allow Israel to stop advancing Arab armies and tank columns - even one on Israeli soil - without permanently contaminating the land.
The main effect of a neutron bomb would be the release of high-energy neutrons that would take lives far beyond the blast area. The result: fewer buildings, cars, tanks, roads, highways and other structures destroyed.

And unlike standard nuclear bombs that leave long-term contamination of the soil and infrastructure, the neutron radiation quickly dissipates after the explosion.

For Cohen, the neutron bomb is the ultimate sane weapon. It kills humans, or as he puts it "the bad guys," but doesn't produce tremendous collateral damage on civilian populations and the infrastructure a civilian population needs to survive.

This meant, in Cohen's mind, that a conventional war could escalate without immediately leading to an all-out nuclear holocaust. If regular nuclear weapons were used across Europe, the radioactive fallout could turn the continent into a wasteland for decades. That wouldn't be the case if neutron bombs were used.


THE SAME GAME DIFFERENT BOARD

“The CFR controled FED fomented and instigated the Russian Revolution, and placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky’s disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden...

TODAY FREEDOM HAS NO FRIENDS !!!!!! YOU BETTER DOUBLE CHECK BEFORE YOU JUMP IN TO SIDE WITH A FRIEND. TRAITORS RULE

[dennis]

Israel has been selling donated US weapons to China! Weapons and military technology which has been paid for by US tax payers has been sold to China!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzr_hRsSuGM

This must be the new version of FRIENDLY FIRE. We pay. Israel collects. China shoots it back at us.

[Jason]

Israel has been selling donated US weapons to China! Weapons and military technology which has been paid for by US tax payers has been sold to China!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzr_hRsSuGM

This must be the new version of FRIENDLY FIRE. We pay. Israel collects. China shoots it back at us.

Selling them to other countries all over the world....especially countries that the US can't officially sell to for decades....

Mike Harrari was the Israeli Mossad agent that handled most of the weapons transactions in the late 70's through mid 80's for South America until the Iran/Contra affair hit the spotlight. US donates weapons to Israel and they peddle them all over the world (South American dictatorships, African dictatorships, Communists, etc etc etc - all of America's "enemies"). MIC's back door channel to the other half of the world

I think Bo Gritz covered the South America angle a bit in his book "Called to Serve" when he was relating everything that was going down with relation to Operation Watchtower of which he had contacts that were directly involved in that....couple links below -

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... gscia.html

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/c ... _list.html

http://www.zoklet.net/totse/en/politics ... ahits.html

http://www.aton432hz.info/GNNBushHardDrugEmpire2.html

http://www.drugwar.com/active%20army.shtm

....and maybe a bit more -

The Iran-Contra Affair
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... ffair.html

Israeli Officials Vow Arms Sales to Russia’s Enemies
http://news.antiwar.com/2010/09/19/isra ... s-enemies/

U.S. Arms Sales to Israel End Up In China, Iraq
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0509-07.htm

U.S. Weapons Delivered to Israel as Tax Day Nears
http://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai-politi ... 34232.html

U.S. Arming of Israel: How U.S. Weapons Manufacturers Profit From Middle East Conflict
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/7/21/u ... israel_how

Israeli Arms Sales to Iran
http://www.washington-report.org/backis ... 11002.html

US up in arms over Sino-Israel ties
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FL21Ak01.html

Report: U.S. Arms Transfers and Security Assistance to Israel - World Policy Institute - Research Project
http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/arm ... 50602.html

Unusually Large U.S. Weapons Shipment to Israel: Are the US and Israel Planning a Broader Middle East War?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=11743

U.S. Aid To Israel
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... n_aid.html

Doubts over US aid to Israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2867619.stm

US foreign aid to Israel
http://www.miftah.org/Display.cfm?DocId ... tegoryId=4

A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: Almost $114 Billion
http://wrmea.org/component/content/arti ... llion.html

U.S. Assistance to Israel
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... rael1.html

Economist tallies swelling cost of Israel to US
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

[lundbaek]

I obviously does not suit the agenda of the latter-day gadiantons that the United States be the only super-power. If the US were far and away the top dog militarily, which it could be, it would have the material force to prevent it being compelled to submit to a worldwide government.

[dennis]

The military IS THE FORCE TO COMPEL SUBMISSION TO NWO. you will either consent or be compelled.
Lukebec ,, One World Government = one world military The 'military' is securely in their control. Also the CIA, the NSA, the NATIONAL GUARD, THANKS TO HOMELAND SECURITY AND PATRIOT ACT. Name one gov agency not in their control. jUST THINK for a second what regime change means. It is alive well and never been more prominent. They are very close to total world gov. Just a few more regime changes and suicides of Patriots. any one who thinks the military is not controlled by the CFR is in LALA land. Same with the Press. The days of being able to post on freedom forum is numbered. That is my Prophesy!!

[dennis]

I f you are so nieve as to think we are free, that the nwo order is not real and not in effect today ask tom Drake the whistle blowers. and all the others that have been silently silenced... True patriots are being silenced one by one. And where is the support for each other. Still side lined. and arguing if we should do anything. Like ngl says the stasi center is for family history.

[lundbaek]

My understanding of the New World Order is a world governing dictatorship controlling all human, natural, economic, food producing, medical and industrial resources. Establishing the New World Order would entail the transfer of full sovereignty from separate nations to a world governing organization. I believe that is the ultimate goal. We are accelerating in that direction, but I don't consider us there yet.

Dennis, why do you think we are all doing nothing? There are a relatively few people trying to turn things around. I rub shoulders with them in the constitution Party, the John Birch Society, and in Tea Party activities. Unfortunately, it seem to me that those who should be most aware of what is happening and who are most responsible could be most effective in turning things around if they were not so consumed with "living the gospel".

[Jason]

My understanding of the New World Order is a world governing dictatorship controlling all human, natural, economic, food producing, medical and industrial resources. Establishing the New World Order would entail the transfer of full sovereignty from separate nations to a world governing organization. I believe that is the ultimate goal. We are accelerating in that direction, but I don't consider us there yet.

Dennis, why do you think we are all doing nothing? There are a relatively few people trying to turn things around. I rub shoulders with them in the constitution Party, the John Birch Society, and in Tea Party activities. Unfortunately, it seem to me that those who should be most aware of what is happening and who are most responsible could be most effective in turning things around if they were not so consumed with "living the gospel".

Not there yet??? If not...then we are just a hair and a sliver off! Figure out which countries in the world that don't have a central bank tied into the BIS system....everything else is just facades and posturing for the masses!

[dennis]

nations can be separate countries and still be in effect acting as one. Or acting together. Or lets say acting under the direction of the controlers of the NWO. Example : Ever heard of the coalition of the willing.? WTO, WHO, UN, NATO ? G 20 ect. I think the real question about soverignty is who is in power or in control? of that country. Another reason regime change is under the radar of most people . not realizing that it is actualy establishing the nwo. ether 8 says whatsoever nation shall uphold secret combinations, to get power and gain, UNTIL THEY SHALL SPREAD OVER THE NATION SHALL BE DESTROYED. Spread over = control That is why I keep asking what part of gov dont they control? No one ever answers.OH, sorry someone said the military, on another thread. That s when I had had enough of their deceptions and had to jump in.

I am not saying no body is doing anything to oppose them. But I am saying Many are suporting them. Many on this forum, passively , knowingly or unknowly. Ludabeck you are a true Patriot. And there fore an enemy of the Gov.

Many times 'awake' == 'dream'

[dennis]

Who's Afraid of 9/11 Conspiracy Theories?
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
-Queen Gertrude, Hamlet.


Whenever someone insists too strongly about something not being true, we tend to suspect that maybe it is. In their denials of involvement in 9/11, do Israel's apologists "protest too much?"

While it would take a small book to adequately document the Israeli connection to 9/11—as Antiwar.com editor Justin Raimondo has attempted in The Terror Enigma—let us briefly recall some of the more intriguing facts as reported in the mainstream media, involving dancing Israelis, Odigo warnings, and ZimÕs timely move.

The story of the five Israelis who were seen celebrating and filming as the Twin Towers burned and collapsed was investigated by Neil Mackay in Scotland's Sunday Herald. The so-called "dancing Israelis" worked for Urban Moving Systems, later deemed to be a Mossad front by the FBI. Despite failing numerous polygraph tests, the young men were deported to Israel two months later. Back home, several of the men appeared on a TV chat show, in which one of them amazingly said, "Our purpose was to document the event."

Two employees of Odigo, an Israeli instant messaging service, received messages two hours before the World Trade Center attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, Ha'aretz reported.

Zim-American Israeli Shipping Co., part-owned by the Israeli government, moved their North American headquarters from the 16th floor of the WTC to Norfolk, Virginia one week before the 9/11 attacks, incurring a $50,000 fine for breaking its lease, according to the Jerusalem Post.

Despite being in the public domain, none of these relevant facts are mentioned in the 9/11 Commission's 567-page report.

Moreover, Philip Zelikow, the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, is concerned about the spread of such inconvenient facts to the wider public. "Our worry," he says, "is when things become infectious…. [then] this stuff can be deeply corrosive to public understanding. You can get where the bacteria can sicken the larger body."

But was Zelikow speaking here as an American government official or as a pro-Israeli insider?

In the same month that he authored the so-called "Bush Doctrine" of preemptive war, which provided the justification for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Zelikow made this candid admission: "Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990—it's the threat against Israel."

Yet, instead of investigating the Israeli connection, Zelikow used the 9/11 Commission to sell the Israeli-inspired Iraq war to the American people.

Dr. Sabrosky, former director of studies of the Strategic Studies Institute at the US Army War College, has recently stated that "it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period."

Either way, it's hardly surprising that some of the most obsessive critics of 9/11 "conspiracy theories" have ties to Israel. If Americans ever find out that their "staunchest ally" had anything to do with the mass murder of their fellow citizens on September 11, 2001, the would-be conspiracy debunkers have good reason to be afraid.