Declaration of Independence 2010

[genesal]

I think we pay more taxes with less representation than did
our forefathers who saw a need for redress. I'm of the same
opinion today.

The Declaration of Independence is considered
the single most important document of American History.
Written by Thomas Jefferson with the help of John Adams
and Benjamin Franklin, it was intended to explain and justify
to the American colonies, England, and the rest of the world
the colonial decision for separation from Britain. For the men
of the Revolution it laid down the principles for which they fought.

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THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE 2010 Second Draft

IN AMERICA OCTOBER 16, 2010

The Unanimous Declaration Of The reUnited States of America

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary
for one people to dissolve the political bands which have
connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers
of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the
Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitles them, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should
declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and
women are created equal, that they are endowed by their
Creator with certain unalienable Rights,that among these are
Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving
their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever
any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it
is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government, laying its foundation on such
principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to
them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and
Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments
long established should not be changed for light and
transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn,
that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are
sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms
to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of
abuses and usurpation's, pursuing invariably the same Object,
evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it
is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their
future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of
these sovereign states; and such is now the necessity which
constrains them to alter their former System of Government.
The history of the original United States of America present
is a history of repeated injuries and usurpation's, all having
in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over
these States. To prove this, let the Facts be submitted to a
candid world.

The Government has refused their Assent to Laws, the most
wholesome and necessary for the public good.

The Presidency has taken on power not entitled to, which is
not provided for and indeed is prohibited by the Constitution
of these United States. These include foreign Treaties,
Executive Orders and starting wars without the official of
consent of Congress and without Official Declaration of War.

The Presidents have failed to live up to and carry out their
Oath of Office and has put their own goals, Treaties and other
Objects above the rights and safety, security, and comfort of
the Citizens of these United States

The Presidency, the Congress and the Courts have convoluted,
eroded and and otherwise made the Constitution of the United
States into a document that it was never intended to be. In
doing so Congress has sold, stole and given away the Sovereignty
of the United States and to do so shall be considered Treason.

They have ruined the means of financing this United States by
creating a Federal Reserve System which is leading to the
bankruptcy of these Great United States.

They have created illegal Amendments and employing others which
have never been ratified. It is our intention to fix those wrongs.

They have forbidden the Governors to pass Laws of immediate
and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation
till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended,
they have utterly neglected to attend to them.

They have refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of
large districts of people, unless those people would
relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a
right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

They have called together legislative bodies at places
unusual, uncomfortable, and secret and distant from the depository
of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them
into compliance with his measures or secreting their motives.

Representation has been refused for a long time, whereby the
Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned
to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in
the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from
without, and convulsions and invasions from within.

Congress has endeavored to prevent the population of these
States; for that purpose obstructing Laws for naturalization
of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their
migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new
Appropriations of Lands.

They have obstructed the Administration of Justice, by
refusing their Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary
Powers.

They have made Judges dependent on their Will alone, for the
tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their
salaries.

They have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent
hither swarms of Officers to harass our people.

They have kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies
without the Consent of our Legislature.

They have affected to render the Military independent of and
superior to the Civil power.

They have combined with others to subject us to a
jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged
by our laws; giving their Assent to their Acts of pretended
Legislation:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases of the benefits of Trial by
Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended
offenses:

For abolishing the free System of American Laws in a
neighboring State, establishing therein an Arbitrary
government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it
at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the
same absolute rule into these United States:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable
Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our
Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring
themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all
cases whatsoever and investing foreign powers to rule in our
stead.

You have abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of
your Protection while others are waging war against us.

They have, ravaged our Coasts, through their ineptness and sloth,
let our towns burn, our bridges fall and our roads crumble and
destroyed the lives of our people through eminent domain and
other such selfish causes.

They are at this time contemplating large Armies of foreign
troops with the United Nations to complete the works of death,
desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of
Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous
ages, and totally unworthy to run a civilized nation.

You have constrained our fellow-Citizens force ably, to bear arms
for their Country, to become the executioners, or to fall
themselves by foreign Hands.

You have excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and have
endeavored to let in the inhabitants of of neighboring countries
which we fought and died to secure those lands from, who were
our enemy. And to let those inhabitants enter our country
illegally as they plunder and savagely rape and kill our citizens,
and failed to stop it at any such level. The fact is you have
all but caused and encouraged the invasion, sirs.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for
Redress in the most humble terms. Our repeated Petitions
have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose
character is thus Marked by every act which may define
Tyrants, which are unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been waiting in attentions to our Governing
brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts
by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction
over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our
emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their
native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by
the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpation's,
which would inevitably interrupt our connections and
correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of
justice and of consanguinity. We must therefore, acquiesce
in the necessity which denounced our Separation, and hold
them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in
Peace Friends.

We therefore, the Representatives of the United States of
America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the
Supreme Judge of the world (our God) for the rectitude
of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the authority
of the good People of these United States, solemnly publish
and declare, That these United States are and of Right ought
to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved
from all Allegiance to the Governing bodies, and that all
political connection between them and the State , is
and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and
Independent States, they have full Power to levy War,
conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and
to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may
of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with
a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence
(our God), We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our
Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

THE NEW SIGNERS OF THE NEW DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

[Mark]

I think we pay more taxes with less representation than did
our forefathers who saw a need for redress. I'm of the same
opinion today.

The Declaration of Independence is considered
the single most important document of American History.
Written by Thomas Jefferson with the help of John Adams
and Benjamin Franklin, it was intended to explain and justify
to the American colonies, England, and the rest of the world
the colonial decision for separation from Britain. For the men
of the Revolution it laid down the principles for which they fought.

*************************************************************

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE 2010 Second Draft

IN AMERICA OCTOBER 16, 2010

The Unanimous Declaration Of The reUnited States of America

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary
for one people to dissolve the political bands which have
connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers
of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the
Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitles them, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should
declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and
women are created equal, that they are endowed by their
Creator with certain unalienable Rights,that among these are
Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving
their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever
any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it
is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government, laying its foundation on such
principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to
them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and
Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments
long established should not be changed for light and
transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn,
that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are
sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms
to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of
abuses and usurpation's, pursuing invariably the same Object,
evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it
is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such
Government, and to provide new Guards for their
future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of
these sovereign states; and such is now the necessity which
constrains them to alter their former System of Government.
The history of the original United States of America present
is a history of repeated injuries and usurpation's, all having
in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over
these States. To prove this, let the Facts be submitted to a
candid world.

The Government has refused their Assent to Laws, the most
wholesome and necessary for the public good.

The Presidency has taken on power not entitled to, which is
not provided for and indeed is prohibited by the Constitution
of these United States. These include foreign Treaties,
Executive Orders and starting wars without the official of
consent of Congress and without Official Declaration of War.

The Presidents have failed to live up to and carry out their
Oath of Office and has put their own goals, Treaties and other
Objects above the rights and safety, security, and comfort of
the Citizens of these United States

The Presidency, the Congress and the Courts have convoluted,
eroded and and otherwise made the Constitution of the United
States into a document that it was never intended to be. In
doing so Congress has sold, stole and given away the Sovereignty
of the United States and to do so shall be considered Treason.

They have ruined the means of financing this United States by
creating a Federal Reserve System which is leading to the
bankruptcy of these Great United States.

They have created illegal Amendments and employing others which
have never been ratified. It is our intention to fix those wrongs.

They have forbidden the Governors to pass Laws of immediate
and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation
till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended,
they have utterly neglected to attend to them.

They have refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of
large districts of people, unless those people would
relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a
right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

They have called together legislative bodies at places
unusual, uncomfortable, and secret and distant from the depository
of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them
into compliance with his measures or secreting their motives.

Representation has been refused for a long time, whereby the
Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned
to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in
the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from
without, and convulsions and invasions from within.

Congress has endeavored to prevent the population of these
States; for that purpose obstructing Laws for naturalization
of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their
migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new
Appropriations of Lands.

They have obstructed the Administration of Justice, by
refusing their Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary
Powers.

They have made Judges dependent on their Will alone, for the
tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their
salaries.

They have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent
hither swarms of Officers to harass our people.

They have kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies
without the Consent of our Legislature.

They have affected to render the Military independent of and
superior to the Civil power.

They have combined with others to subject us to a
jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged
by our laws; giving their Assent to their Acts of pretended
Legislation:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases of the benefits of Trial by
Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended
offenses:

For abolishing the free System of American Laws in a
neighboring State, establishing therein an Arbitrary
government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it
at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the
same absolute rule into these United States:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable
Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our
Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring
themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all
cases whatsoever and investing foreign powers to rule in our
stead.

You have abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of
your Protection while others are waging war against us.

They have, ravaged our Coasts, through their ineptness and sloth,
let our towns burn, our bridges fall and our roads crumble and
destroyed the lives of our people through eminent domain and
other such selfish causes.

They are at this time contemplating large Armies of foreign
troops with the United Nations to complete the works of death,
desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of
Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous
ages, and totally unworthy to run a civilized nation.

You have constrained our fellow-Citizens force ably, to bear arms
for their Country, to become the executioners, or to fall
themselves by foreign Hands.

You have excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and have
endeavored to let in the inhabitants of of neighboring countries
which we fought and died to secure those lands from, who were
our enemy. And to let those inhabitants enter our country
illegally as they plunder and savagely rape and kill our citizens,
and failed to stop it at any such level. The fact is you have
all but caused and encouraged the invasion, sirs.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for
Redress in the most humble terms. Our repeated Petitions
have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose
character is thus Marked by every act which may define
Tyrants, which are unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been waiting in attentions to our Governing
brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts
by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction
over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our
emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their
native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by
the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpation's,
which would inevitably interrupt our connections and
correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of
justice and of consanguinity. We must therefore, acquiesce
in the necessity which denounced our Separation, and hold
them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in
Peace Friends.

We therefore, the Representatives of the United States of
America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the
Supreme Judge of the world (our God) for the rectitude
of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the authority
of the good People of these United States, solemnly publish
and declare, That these United States are and of Right ought
to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved
from all Allegiance to the Governing bodies, and that all
political connection between them and the State , is
and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and
Independent States, they have full Power to levy War,
conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and
to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may
of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with
a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence
(our God), We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our
Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

THE NEW SIGNERS OF THE NEW DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

Here here genesal! A return to states rights is critical to our survival as a nation. Without it we are doomed.

[andrew]

Hi, general, I commend you on your desire to secure liberty to your fellow-men.
I think this Constitution needs polishing a bit in order to prevent twisted interpretation:

That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving
their just powers from the consent of the governed

This sentence is an aximoron. One can't say "consent of the governed", because it implies that they were "the governed" even before they gave their consent to be governed. It is better to say "consent of an individual". If you change it to "consent of the people", it is still ambivalent, because it may imply "the majority of the individuals residing within a certain geographic area , i.e. 50%+1 individual.
It is unjust for 50% + 1 individual to impose their government on 50% - 1 individual. Don't you think so?
Let's fix this possibility for twisting yourConstitution and then we can move on further, shall we?

[genesal]

Hi, general, I commend you on your desire to secure liberty to your fellow-men.
I think this Constitution needs polishing a bit in order to prevent twisted interpretation:

That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving
their just powers from the consent of the governed

This sentence is an aximoron. One can't say "consent of the governed", because it implies that they were "the governed" even before they gave their consent to be governed. It is better to say "consent of an individual". If you change it to "consent of the people", it is still ambivalent, because it may imply "the majority of the individuals residing within a certain geographic area , i.e. 50%+1 individual.
It is unjust for 50% + 1 individual to impose their government on 50% - 1 individual. Don't you think so?
Let's fix this possibility for twisting yourConstitution and then we can move on further, shall we?

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed" is from the Original Declaration of Independence probably penned by Thomas Jefferson.
Thanks much!

[Jason]

Without enforcement....it means nothing!

[genesal]

Without enforcement....it means nothing!

When the Elders of the Church save the Constitution, the Constitution will have to be reset
back to the way that our forefathers intended (doing away with precedents) etc. We will need
the Constitution to be still divinely inspired and have God's approval again.

This needs to be done with a revised Declaration of Independence - independence from our
former Government.

Prophecy is that God and His protection will be it's enforcement and people will gather from all
over the WORLD to live under the Title of Liberty and Freedom, here. Divine enforcement that is.

[andrew]

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed" is from the Original Declaration of Independence probably penned by Thomas Jefferson.

genesal,
would you please care to comment on the questions I addressed to YOU personally, or are you suggesting that simply because Jefferson said something, one can adopt his words without the need to do one's own thinking?

[genesal]

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed" is from the Original Declaration of Independence probably penned by Thomas Jefferson.

genesal,
would you please care to comment on the questions I addressed to YOU personally, or are you suggesting that simply because Jefferson said something, one can adopt his words without the need to do one's own thinking?

In answer to your inquiry.
The need for a revised Declaration is because Americans are now oppressed by their own government, not by England. Pretty much the same oppressions exist and the remedies have been articulated sufficiently by Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin. Roger Sherman. and Robert Livingston.

The problem is the same only the names of the oppressors have changed.

[andrew]

genesal,
with all due respect to Jefferson, he overlooked one significant principle which was articulated by ET Benson:

There is one simple test. Do I as an individual have a right to
use force upon my neighbor to accomplish this goal?

And of course, there was no consent of the governed when the US Constitution(USC) was established.
So it was a situation of 50%+1 imposing their will on 50%-1 because there was no option provided to opt-out of this contract.

I agree, the US Constitution, flawed as it is, still serves as a cushion to soften the blow of tyranny. Yet the USC itself contains seeds of destruction, it violates inalienable rights of people to own their property and enter into contracts voluntarily. Article 1 section 8 - taxes,duties,imposts. All these are a form of theft, because there is no consent on the part of the taxed,
The only remedy for tyranny is respect for inalienable rights.

Genesal, two times now you dodged my direct question, justifying your views by loud names of Adams and Franklin. Here is my question again:

It is unjust for 50% + 1 individual to impose their government on 50% - 1 individual. Don't you think so?

Or rather, is it just for 50% + 1 individual to impose their government on 50% - 1 individual? (because that is what USC does)

There is no point of copy-pasting Declarations of Independence until this question is sorted in one's mind.

[genesal]

genesal,
with all due respect to Jefferson, he overlooked one significant principle which was articulated by ET Benson:

There is one simple test. Do I as an individual have a right to
use force upon my neighbor to accomplish this goal?

And of course, there was no consent of the governed when the US Constitution(USC) was established.
So it was a situation of 50%+1 imposing their will on 50%-1 because there was no option provided to opt-out of this contract.

I agree, the US Constitution, flawed as it is, still serves as a cushion to soften the blow of tyranny. Yet the USC itself contains seeds of destruction, it violates inalienable rights of people to own their property and enter into contracts voluntarily. Article 1 section 8 - taxes,duties,imposts. All these are a form of theft, because there is no consent on the part of the taxed,
The only remedy for tyranny is respect for inalienable rights.

Genesal, two times now you dodged my direct question, justifying your views by loud names of Adams and Franklin. Here is my question again:

It is unjust for 50% + 1 individual to impose their government on 50% - 1 individual. Don't you think so?

Or rather, is it just for 50% + 1 individual to impose their government on 50% - 1 individual? (because that is what USC does)

There is no point of copy-pasting Declarations of Independence until this question is sorted in one's mind.

Not true, I'm talking about a Declaration of Independence not the Constitution. The Declaration was much earlier than the Constitution. Apples and oranges.