What the rest of the world thinks of the USA

[AussieOi]

Many here struggle to understand my antagonism and antipathy towards the USA
They struggle to understand how I can say I have no feeling towards US soldiers when I here they are killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This 5 minute YouTube explains it well
I'm not going to put up a warning for this
If you don't like it then stop paying your taxes.
As Chris / Wiik said, if you aren't removing yourself from this system, you ARE the system.
Unless you are active in your opposition to what is being done in YOUR name with YOUR tax dollars, you are the gadianton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bifxa1wR ... r_embedded

Onward Christian Soldiers Pritchett. Onward. Christian. Soldiers

[durangout]

Silly me. I thought it was 'cause the rest of the world was jealous.

[loquaciousmomma]

I understand your frustration with the horrible things that are being done in our name, but I have three thoughts for you.

First, blaming everyday Americans is misguided. The reason the people voted out the Republican majority in 2006 was mainly because they believed the Democrats who campaigned on ending the war in Iraq. Then, again they voted for Barack Obama because he told them the same thing.

The American people do not want the wars, except for maybe the die hard republicans, but they are a minority.

Second, America does not have a corner on the war atrocities market. It is the horrible side effect of long term fighting. The civility of these men is breaking down from being away from normal daily life for so long.

Third, the Church has specifically said that it is our duty to pay our taxes, so this is not an acceptable option to change anything.

I realize that there has been great suffering at the hands of our troops. However, there has also been a lot of good done by them as well.

I hope you can see that just like you and those in your country are subject to incessant propaganda, so are we here in the US. People are functioning in the paradigms that they form based on the media they consume. It influences how they vote, and what they see as solutions to problems.

It seems to me that the propaganda you consume paints the US to be the great Satan, so to speak. I hope you can step back from the propaganda and see that there is still goodness here.

[AussieOi]

I understand your frustration with the horrible things that are being done in our name

can you?
are ther 40 Australian military bases in your country????

First, blaming everyday Americans is misguided. The reason the people voted out the Republican majority in 2006 was mainly because they believed the Democrats who campaigned on ending the war in Iraq. Then, again they voted for Barack Obama because he told them the same thing.

americans send their kids off to these wars. LDS too.

The American people do not want the wars, except for maybe the die hard republicans, but they are a minority.

i beg to differ. american citizens are born and bred in blood.
look at your gun homicide rates
americans root for war

Second, America does not have a corner on the war atrocities market. It is the horrible side effect of long term fighting. The civility of these men is breaking down from being away from normal daily life for so long.

since ww2 it has a corner a mortgage and a flag on it. alas you are right tho, too many wars
the US has a corner on illegal invasion and mass war, shock and horror

Third, the Church has specifically said that it is our duty to pay our taxes, so this is not an acceptable option to change anything.

correction, the church only reminds its members that good citizens pay the tax_they are legally obliged to pay.
the neednt buy into this one anyway. christ saud render unto caesar...

I realize that there has been great suffering at the hands of our troops. However, there has also been a lot of good done by them as well.

even a prostitute shares love with her VD

I hope you can see that just like you and those in your country are subject to incessant propaganda, so are we here in the US. People are functioning in the paradigms that they form based on the media they consume. It influences how they vote, and what they see as solutions to problems.

agree
but in the main it is your countrymen taking up arms and killing the innocent.

quote="loquaciousmomma"]It seems to me that the propaganda you consume paints the US to be the great Satan, so to speak. I hope you can step back from the propaganda and see that there is still goodness here.[/quote]

the US is a great satan for certain
look what it did to the indians
the blacks
the mormons- you do know why we went west?
then the cubans
then the phillipinos
then the ...oh, i give up
yeah, it makes sense, put satans camp right near the saints.

of course there is goodness there
if there werent i am sure god would have destroyed it
it makes sense the evil surrounds the good, id expect it to be in your country

points taken tho- thanks

[LukeAir2008]

Silly me. I thought it was 'cause the rest of the world was jealous.

Yes, the rest of the world is jealous that they cant invade foreign nations like the United States does and get their hands on all of the resources like oil, gas and heroin.

Lets hope that Russia and China aren't gearing up to compete with the US in the Empire building game. Lets hope that Russia and China aren't going to follow the example of the self appointed policeman of the world - the United States - and implement regime change - in America!

[Like]

Many here struggle to understand my antagonism and antipathy towards the USA
They struggle to understand how I can say I have no feeling towards US soldiers when I here they are killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This 5 minute YouTube explains it well
I'm not going to put up a warning for this
If you don't like it then stop paying your taxes.
As Chris / Wiik said, if you aren't removing yourself from this system, you ARE the system.
Unless you are active in your opposition to what is being done in YOUR name with YOUR tax dollars, you are the gadianton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bifxa1wR ... r_embedded

Onward Christian Soldiers Pritchett. Onward. Christian. Soldiers

I sent to my bro in law....I am not sure if he will watch it.

This reminds me of this scripture:

"And it came to pass on the other hand, that the Nephites did build them up and support them, beginning at the more wicked part of them, until they had overspread all the land of the Nephites, and had seduced the more part of the righteous until they had come down to believe in their works and partake of their spoils, and to join with them in their secret murders and combinations." Helaman 6:38

[durangout]

Silly me. I thought it was 'cause the rest of the world was jealous.

Yes, the rest of the world is jealous that they cant invade foreign nations like the United States does and get their hands on all of the resources like oil, gas and heroin.

Lets hope that Russia and China aren't gearing up to compete with the US in the Empire building game. Lets hope that Russia and China aren't going to follow the example of the self appointed policeman of the world - the United States - and implement regime change - in America!

It's a forgone conclusion. That's what WWIII will be about.

[loquaciousmomma]

I guess is just bothers me that you have such animosity toward the American people. That means me. I don't support the wars, I don't vote for the warmongering politicians. I do what I can to change things. What more do you expect of me or those like me?

If you think America has a corner on the atrocities market, look up the English empire, the Roman empire, the Soviet empire...

There are terrible things being done, but they are the result of power hungry people abusing the trust the American people have given them. Power corrupts, it is not a uniquely American problem.

The violence here is the result of the incessant TV watching with violence as a main part that people do here, in addition to the fact that much of the gun crimes are gang related. Gangs aren't typical Americans, they are Gadiantons.

The comments you leave here give me the impression that you are angry and bitter at the US.

What good is that doing for you, anyway?

[Spence]

collectivism at its finest.

[AussieOi]

I guess is just bothers me that you have such animosity toward the American people. That means me. I don't support the wars, I don't vote for the warmongering politicians. I do what I can to change things. What more do you expect of me or those like me?

If you think America has a corner on the atrocities market, look up the English empire, the Roman empire, the Soviet empire...

There are terrible things being done, but they are the result of power hungry people abusing the trust the American people have given them. Power corrupts, it is not a uniquely American problem.

The violence here is the result of the incessant TV watching with violence as a main part that people do here, in addition to the fact that much of the gun crimes are gang related. Gangs aren't typical Americans, they are Gadiantons.

The comments you leave here give me the impression that you are angry and bitter at the US.

What good is that doing for you, anyway?

there is no "america"
just a country full of people
your military is just the manifestation of its metastacized collectiveness
i dont hate americans, i detest america.
i like much of the version your founders created
what you have today resembles nothing of that
i am sad some good people are stuck there

[Mosby]

there is no "america"
just a country full of people
your military is just the manifestation of its metastacized collectiveness
i dont hate americans, i detest america.
i like much of the version your founders created
what you have today resembles nothing of that
i am sad some good people are stuck there

I can't disagree with this Aussie. Sadly I feel the same; "America" in my eyes hasn't existed since 1865- at least the version that the founders had in mind.

I ceased to be "an American" long ago- videos like that one make me sick- sick of what "America" has become-it's become the tyrant of the world. I am a member of only one Nation, or "empire"- thats the Kingdom of God.
My trust is not in "America" or in "America's goodness" - it's in GOD and his mercy, grace and truth.

However, much like Thomas Jefferson- I shudder when I realize that God is just.

Simply put - we (America) WILL reap the whirlwind for our immoral actions.

I weep for what we have become,- a nation more worried about American Idol than the dead children in Iraq.

[LukeAir2008]

The sad truth is that most Americans, in fact most Mormons, won't be able to watch this video - and if they do watch it they will be in denial. They can't face the truth. They can't handle the nightmare reality of things as they really are.

[LukeAir2008]

"We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it."

Founding Father, Patrick Henry

[AussieOi]

i think luke that eventually people will be broken down, its more visible.

i mean how can anyone not have compassion on the genocide in palestine for instance?

how does a person become so hardened to it?

i can only think they are full of hate and fear (my interpretation of pritchett) or misplacing their love (ie "we are over there protecting them", trying to make them free)

but indifference is nothing new. how anyone can work in a factory making DU, or cluster bombs, or white phospherous? how can a boy who did 4 years of seminary, a 2 year mission to sell love, then go join a military and fly an apache gunship or fore rounds from an AC-130 gunship? what went wrong?> how can a system so comprehensively destroy his spirit and de-soul him? it is so perfect in its evil

its my job, gotta pay the bills, media calls me a patriot, lots of flags being waves, if it were wrong everyone would stop, my religious leaders get up and say how proud they are of us in these lands of sand and flies, and so on. it must be right....right?

the world does a good job of making us feel insignificant, can't change anything, nothing is wrong or people would change things, no?

indifference, thats the great evil. antipathy.

the 1st gulf war road of death awoke me. then the sanctions. 1million dead including 500,000 children., i became aware our leaders murder people

then i discovered how widespread abortion is

then job insecurity across the world
and learned of b-52s and went to vietnam and went to the orphanages. 3 generations later the agent orange deformities are getting worse (its gets worse over time)
i went to orphanages in india and saw reality there.
most of the world has NOTHING
and we come on here and get all worked up about a bunch of queers protesting in front of our $350million dollar conference centres we use twice a year.

we are all sad little ants sometimes.

my final word shall be left to those rich white boys who say a prayer before their friday night high school football game..."lord, may we win tonight, and bless the pizza we'll have afterwards that it may nourish us and make us strong and healthy"

yes, god certainly is listening.

[jsk]

Yawn....another anti-American rant from Aussie...there is something we've never heard before!

I'm going to really shock you by agreeing with a lot of what you've said...but so what? Is your Government Down Under the only one on the face of the planet not under the control of Gadianton Robbers? Tell you what...I'll stop paying my taxes after you do the same, and after you denounce all the evils and problems in your country. If you aren't willing to do this, then why not?

By the way...not that you would give a hoot...but my Great Uncle was wounded at Guadalcanal back during WWII....say what you will about the justice of that war, but it it weren't for the good old United States of America you would be eating a lot of rice, wearing a Kimono and speaking Japanese right now, mate.

Give me a break...

[genesal]

Yeah, Good job Australia!!!

The facts are:

* Aboriginal life expectancy is 17 – 20 years less than other Australians.
* Aboriginal babies are four times as likely to die at birth as non-Aborigines.
* Aboriginal people are 17 times more likely to be arrested, 14 times more likely to be imprisoned and 16 times more likely to die in custody than non-Aborigines.
* In Western Australia, Aboriginal women are 41 times more likely to be in jail than other women.
* There has been a 70% rise in Aboriginal incarceration since 1989.
* The suicide rate is 6 times higher for Aborigines than the national average.
* The infant mortality rate for Aborigines is over three times the national average.
* Unemployment amongst Aborigines is four times the national average.

Need an American Civil Rights Movement in Australia do we?

[Like]

Need an American Civil Rights Movement in Australia do we?

Too me that is one thing that is wrong with the USA; the Civil Rights Movement was a counterfeit endorsed by and twisted by Satan himself. Satan is the one that plays on the different classes that one man assigns to other man. God only classes people as another one of his children. Satan used the Civil Rights Movement to further his agenda to bring socialism to this land and enslave all of us.

I can not confirm if this quote is accurate but no one has not proven to me otherwise, in 1966 Ezra Taft Benson :

referred to Martin Luther King Jr. as the "Communist leader of the so-called civil rights movement"

http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com/news/ ... y-1.364315

The more I learn and understand about the civil rights movement , the more I can see how it was twisted.

[AussieOi]

Yeah, Good job Australia!!!

The facts are:

* Aboriginal life expectancy is 17 – 20 years less than other Australians.
* Aboriginal babies are four times as likely to die at birth as non-Aborigines.
* Aboriginal people are 17 times more likely to be arrested, 14 times more likely to be imprisoned and 16 times more likely to die in custody than non-Aborigines.
* In Western Australia, Aboriginal women are 41 times more likely to be in jail than other women.
* There has been a 70% rise in Aboriginal incarceration since 1989.
* The suicide rate is 6 times higher for Aborigines than the national average.
* The infant mortality rate for Aborigines is over three times the national average.
* Unemployment amongst Aborigines is four times the national average.

Need an American Civil Rights Movement in Australia do we?

i didnt know there were aboriginals in Iraq

[genesal]

i didnt know there were aboriginals in Iraq

And I suppose there's much more you didn't know, right mate?