The Benson Principle - A Fundamental Principle of Liberty

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The Benson Principle - A Fundamental Principle of Liberty

Postby LoveIsTruth » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:51 pm

The Benson Principle - A Fundamental Principle of Liberty

Ezra Taft Benson - Man, Freedom, Government



This is a classic. It contains what I call the Benson Principle (which was first annunciated by Frederic Bastiat, but restated eloquently here). It is a Fundamental Principle of Liberty without which Liberty is impossible.

It goes like this:

Since the government derives all its legitimate authority by delegation from the governed, the government has no authority to do anything to an individual and his property, except what you yourself as an individual have a right to do. And if you, as an individual, have no moral right to force your neighbor to do (or not to do) something, neither does the government, because the only legitimate authority the government has, is what you delegated to it, and you cannot delegate an authority you do not have.

So that's the basic test to see what a government, properly, can and cannot do.

If you have no moral right to force your neighbor, neither does the government!

That's all. Brilliant! This is one of the fundamental principles of Liberty, absent which Liberty cannot survive nor prevail!

Another thing we all need to remember is that ANY law is force. Therefore we must not lend our support to any law that does not square with this principle.

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Note: The Benson Principle happens to be the Second one in the Fundamental Principles of Liberty.
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Re: Ezra Taft Benson - Man, Freedom, Government

Postby moonwhim » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:40 am

LoveIsTruth wrote: Ezra Taft Benson - Man, Freedom, Government

This is a classic. It contains what I call the Benson Principle (which was first annunciated by Frederic Bastiat, but restated eloquently here).

Since government derives all its legitimate authority from you, the government has no authority to do anything to an individual and his property, but what you yourself as an individual can do. And if you, as an individual, have no moral right to force your neighbor to do (or not to do) something, you cannot ask your government to force him for you, because the only legitimate authority the government has, is what you delegated to it, and you cannot delegate an authority you do not have.

So that's the basic test to see what a government, properly, can and cannot do.

If you have no moral right to force your neighbor, you cannot ask your government to force him for you!

That's all. Brilliant! This is one of the fundamental principles of Liberty!



Yes, that great principle is in his "The Proper Role of Government" article." It had a profound effect upon me.
"Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer


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Re: Video: Ezra Taft Benson - Man, Freedom, Government

Postby singyourwayhome » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:01 pm

Thanks, I've forwarded the video to several friends.

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Re: Video: Ezra Taft Benson - Man, Freedom, Government

Postby Mahonri » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:32 pm

Here is another classic from Benson

not sure how to embed, so here is the link

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 706081875#
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Re: Video: Ezra Taft Benson - Man, Freedom, Government

Postby LoveIsTruth » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:17 pm

Mahonri wrote:Here is another classic from Benson

not sure how to embed, so here is the link

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 706081875#
Stand Up For Freedom by Ezra Taft Benson

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Re: Video: Ezra Taft Benson - Man, Freedom, Government

Postby Mahonri » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:18 pm

LoveIsTruth, thanks!
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Re: Video: Ezra Taft Benson - Man, Freedom, Government

Postby give_me_liberty » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:41 pm

Great video, thanks for posting it :D

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Re: The Benson Principle - A Fundamental Principle of Libert

Postby EclecticLibertarian » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:30 am

Why call it the "Benson Principle"? A principle is usually attributed to the individual who first recognized and expounded it. Should we not then at the very least call it the "Bastiat Principle"? Else why not rename all sorts of other principles, theories, and laws previously expounded by others to some later proponent?

Let us now call Einstien's Theory of Relativity Hawking's Theory of Relativity.
Let us now call Darwin's Theory of Evolution Dawkin's Theory of Evolution.
Let us now call Newton's Laws of Motion Mr. Nelson's Laws of Motion (after my 6th Grade teacher who is the first person I can recall who introduced me to Newton's Laws).
From now on, let us call the Peter Principle the Dilbert Principle.
And let us now call Occam's Razor, Lt Commander Data's Razor.
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Re: The Benson Principle - A Fundamental Principle of Libert

Postby LoveIsTruth » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:00 am

EclecticLibertarian wrote:Why call it the "Benson Principle"? A principle is usually attributed to the individual who first recognized and expounded it. Should we not then at the very least call it the "Bastiat Principle"? Else why not rename all sorts of other principles, theories, and laws previously expounded by others to some later proponent?

Let us now call Einstien's Theory of Relativity Hawking's Theory of Relativity.
Let us now call Darwin's Theory of Evolution Dawkin's Theory of Evolution.
Let us now call Newton's Laws of Motion Mr. Nelson's Laws of Motion (after my 6th Grade teacher who is the first person I can recall who introduced me to Newton's Laws).
From now on, let us call the Peter Principle the Dilbert Principle.
And let us now call Occam's Razor, Lt Commander Data's Razor.
All excellent ideas. Go ahead and do that.

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Re: The Benson Principle - A Fundamental Principle of Libert

Postby Fairminded » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:11 am

EclecticLibertarian wrote:Why call it the "Benson Principle"? A principle is usually attributed to the individual who first recognized and expounded it. Should we not then at the very least call it the "Bastiat Principle"? Else why not rename all sorts of other principles, theories, and laws previously expounded by others to some later proponent?

Let us now call Einstien's Theory of Relativity Hawking's Theory of Relativity.
Let us now call Darwin's Theory of Evolution Dawkin's Theory of Evolution.
Let us now call Newton's Laws of Motion Mr. Nelson's Laws of Motion (after my 6th Grade teacher who is the first person I can recall who introduced me to Newton's Laws).
From now on, let us call the Peter Principle the Dilbert Principle.
And let us now call Occam's Razor, Lt Commander Data's Razor.


Don't be silly. You can't name a principle after Lt. Commander Data because he isn't a real person...

He's an android.
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Re: The Benson Principle - A Fundamental Principle of Libert

Postby LoveIsTruth » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:27 pm

Fairminded wrote:
EclecticLibertarian wrote:Why call it the "Benson Principle"? A principle is usually attributed to the individual who first recognized and expounded it. Should we not then at the very least call it the "Bastiat Principle"? Else why not rename all sorts of other principles, theories, and laws previously expounded by others to some later proponent?

Let us now call Einstien's Theory of Relativity Hawking's Theory of Relativity.
Let us now call Darwin's Theory of Evolution Dawkin's Theory of Evolution.
Let us now call Newton's Laws of Motion Mr. Nelson's Laws of Motion (after my 6th Grade teacher who is the first person I can recall who introduced me to Newton's Laws).
From now on, let us call the Peter Principle the Dilbert Principle.
And let us now call Occam's Razor, Lt Commander Data's Razor.


Don't be silly. You can't name a principle after Lt. Commander Data because he isn't a real person...

He's an android.
So?


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