What I mean is, man is quite capable of sin, evil etc, without any goading from Old Nick.Rumpelstiltskin wrote: ↑March 25th, 2017, 2:56 pmIf anything, Satan doesn't get enough credit. There are two forces in this world: God (good) and Satan (evil). There is no in between. All too many Saints have been taken in by the wisdom of the world that says, "There is no devil. What we see is simply the evil passions of men." In 2001, the Deseret News reported on a survey conducted by the Barna Group. The LDS were asked if they believed if Satan was a real personage of spirit who influenced their actions. A staggering 41% said they did not believe this. The scriptures teach that everything good comes from God and everything evil comes from the Devil. Marxism in any form, however insignificant, is evil and comes from the Devil. No, we don't give Satan nearly enough credit.Robin Hood wrote: ↑March 25th, 2017, 4:32 am I think Lucifer gets a lot more credit than he deserves.
I read somewhere many years ago that even the devils tremble at some of the evil deeds of man.
Lucifer might be first cause, but "the devil made me do it" won't hold up on judgment day.
He is less powerful than we think. We give him far too much credit, but he's only too happy to take the plaudits of course.