We’re surely in it now: Hel/3 Nephi, Revelation, D&C 29, 45,

[jimjetearlcaptain of 10]

In these last days cleansing events, in order to help the poor during the cleansing period, we'll need at least a one years supply, and shelter to offer, and we can't pick and choose who we'll help, our priesthood leaders will be required to make those decisions. In some cases the local wards and stakes will ask members to turn over all their food storage to their bishop, where it'll be guarded and divvied out. it'll be the last great test before the Lord blesses us with manna, there will be those who fail that test, stating, "we worked hard to get that years supply, we won't share!" In the end, those members will lose and be removed.

Bob

I sure hope this does not happen under my current bishop. It would be a true test of my faith! Particularly because I know him and his wife very well and I know they do not have a years supply of food for their family of 6, and its not because of a lack of resources.


Now I have a question for all of you. I hope I'm not hyjacking this thread by asking, as it seems to fit in with this topic. I have been making an effort to learn more about personal revelation, how to recieve it, how to recognise it, and how to act upon it, etc. In light of all of the admonitions from the leaders of our church, I'm sure many of us are pondering these things.

I guess I am actually looking for an opinion. Let me explain first. We have spent the last two years getting our years supply of food, getting out of debt, and other preparedness items. About the last six months we have had some strange 'desires' to purchase items we would NEVER use under normal circumstances. We are not avid campers and definitley not hunters. Yet we have spent considerable amounts of money on these things that have just been in our minds. We have learned about the items, sought out the best prices, and "coincidentally" found all items on sale or going for great prices over the internet, etc. None of these items are things that me or my hubby really want. They are definitly not something that we secretly want so we are justifying the purchase as preparedness.

Well we just returned from another purchase just last night. My hubby had a very vivid dream a week or so ago. He saw us going somewhere using this last item. When he had questions of how it would work, or how we would make it work, his dream stopped and he "reasoned" it out in his mind and came to an understanding and a solution. Then his dream picked right up where it left off. After the dream he was awake for about 3 hours thinking about it before falling back to sleep. When he told me about it he said "I don't know if it means anything. I don't know if we will buy it. I don't even know if they make them like I saw. I will have to look into it." Needless to say he found the very item on the internet and found a store with them on sale, saving us about a hundred dollars. Believe me this is definitly not something he would EVER purchase. But now we have three. And they will sit in the garage until needed!

Sorry I'm almost done here. As we were coming home last night I was asking him if we made the right choice, are we being stupid etc. He said to me "I don't know. All I know is that I feel really stupid right now." He was quiet for a bit and then said " my rational mind is kicking in and telling me that I am a fool to do this. Why would the Lord tell me to get this stuff and not someone like our bishop, or other people we know?" He then answered his own question, saying that we have been obedient in getting prepared as we feel inspired to do so, so why shouldn't the Lord give us more inspiration?

My question is has anything like this happened to any of you??? I'm being vague with the details because I'm definitely not an AVOW'er if you know what I mean. And I feel a bit foolish sharing this, but I want to discuss it and to be honest I don't 'know' anyone with whom I could have any sort of conversation about this with. I would be labeled a NUT.

I wouldn't consider you a nut at all, but some consider me one.

My wife and I have felt inspired to purchase things we don't normally use or have any knowledge of how to use as well. Mostly it consists of hand tools items like cross cut saws(with severeal different type blades), the old hand crank drills and bits for them, Hand Chisels, Extra Axes and Mauls and wedges, Old Block and Tackle, logging Chains and the list goes on. What I will need them for beats me unless the only way to get lumber to build shelter is to cut it down and mill it by hand.

So far we have Saws and Chisels and axe, oh and several hand files. You will be suprised what you can get off of craigs list many times for free.

[Mullenitecaptain of 1,000]

Dr. David Cohen as one of the descendants of Aaron, who refers to Uncle Moses and his Brother Aaron in one of his books. He was raised by his father, the Jewish Rabbi, who later converted to become a Latter Day Saint and mighty missionary for the church. She had Shanna Christ read D&C 8, regarding the gift of Aaron, recognizing that this gift of interpretation is one that she believes that Dr. Cohen has been gifted with through his great love for the scriptures and as a descendant of Aaron.
THE NAME KOHN, COHEN, KOHEN, ETC. ALL ARE VARIATIONS OF THE HEBREW NAME MEANING PRIEST (AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A DESCENDANT OF AARON):



http://woodyoubelieveit.blogspot.com/20 ... oming.html



DR. DAVID COHEN:
When the 7th seal is open we are going to see the dispensation of the fullness of times come to a climax. There is so much more that will be revealed, and it will happen after the 7th seal is opened. There will be new sections of the D&C written through the Urim & Thumim. Who knows, we may already have it. And the Lord is going to give us time to get ready. There is no time to procrastinate. It will take a good 20 years for us to be righteous enough to meet the Lord. As the earth moves into the vortex there will be a huge earthquake. The blood red moon will represent a reflection of all the bloodshed on earth. One last thing about the Super Nova. It will rise in the sky at midnight on Sept 22. It will light up the Eastern sky as if it were dawn. And at dawn we are going to see 2 suns in the sky. Orion is only visible to the Northern Hemisphere and part of the Southern Hemisphere. The very bottom of the Southern Hemisphere can't see Orion. What are they going to see? There will be multiple signs in the heavens. It just so happens if you live in the Antarctic, Argentina or South Africa you will see a double crescent moon caused by the Orion Super Nova. It would normally be a crescent moon at that time. What do you have to have on Rosh Hashana? A new moon, a double crescent moon. One by land two by sea. One crescent for the first coming. One crescent for the second coming. On Sept 21st, 2011 astronomers have a great big telescope. On Sept 21st they are going to alert the whole world that Orion has gone Super Nova. They will see it exploding in their telescope. We cant see it with our naked eye until it climaxes.

[ready2preparecaptain of 1,000]

DR. DAVID COHEN:
When the 7th seal is open we are going to see the
dispensation of the fullness of times come to a climax.
There is so much more that will be revealed, and it will
happen after the 7th seal is opened. There will be new
sections of the D&C written through the Urim & Thumim.
Who knows, we may already have it. And the Lord is
going to give us time to get ready. There is no time to
procrastinate. It will take a good 20 years for us to be
righteous enough to meet the Lord. As the earth moves
into the vortex there will be a huge earthquake. The
blood red moon will represent a reflection of all the
bloodshed on earth. One last thing about the Super Nova.
It will rise in the sky at midnight on Sept 22. It will light
up the Eastern sky as if it were dawn. And at dawn we
are going to see 2 suns in the sky. Orion is only visible to
the Northern Hemisphere and part of the Southern
Hemisphere. The very bottom of the Southern Hemisphere
can't see Orion. What are they going to see? There will be
multiple signs in the heavens. It just so happens if you live
in the Antarctic, Argentina or South Africa you will see a
double crescent moon caused by the Orion Super Nova. It
would normally be a crescent moon at that time. What do
you have to have on Rosh Hashana? A new moon, a double
crescent moon. One by land two by sea. One crescent for
the first coming. One crescent for the second coming. On
Sept 21st, 2011 astronomers have a great big telescope.
On Sept 21st they are going to alert the whole world that
Orion has gone Super Nova. They will see it exploding in
their telescope. We cant see it with our naked eye until it
climaxes.

Well, it sure sounds a whole lot better than what
Hollywood came up with in their "2012" movie, and
we won't have to wait as long!

Anything's possible...

Best Regards,
Sharon (Making the Best of Basics) in Mississippi

[DrJonescaptain of 1,000]

Bump, because someone asked about this thread. Hope it is useful in helping us to identify the whore Babylon (identified with modern Gadiantons) and the red Beast.

[DrJonescaptain of 1,000]

In John's vision of the last days, the main antagonists are:

1. The Whore Babylon with mystery written on her forehead, seeking dominion over all the earth's wealth (identified with the international banking/corporation elites and gov't cronies - mostly NWO seekers)

2. The Scarlet Beast of seven heads, whose main head was delivered a (supposedly) fatal blow and "is not, yet is" (identified with Russia and the other "heads" with Russia's cohorts such as China and Iran)

In Book of Mormon terms, these would be
1. Gadiantons in "sole management of the government", Helaman 6:23, internal or "western" Gadiantons
2. Gadiantons in "the wilderness" far away, as in Helaman 11 (end) through 3 Nephi 9, "eastern" Gadiantons

Some people see #1 easily, more (IMO) see #2 easily... some see BOTH, and are watching for the next steps in John's vision as discussed in this thread (unless repentance is swift).

Comment before the latest news: IMO, the whore Babylon will soon produce an "event" (probably blamed on Iran) which will lead to an (engineered) breakdown of the American economy, followed by riots (dangerous to those staying in big cities), followed by martial law. Martial law will involve a sweep of "extremist leaders" -- anyone threatening the new order. The attack of the Red Beast will be later. The good news: the New Jerusalem will be built prior to the return of the Savior! (Revel. 17-29, D&C 45, etc)

Now the news (quoted from another thread; thanks) on the impending battle between the whore and the beast:

Dangerous Crossroads: U.S. Moves Missiles And Troops To Russian Border
Nuclear and Conventional Arms Pacts Stalled
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... leId=17169
QUOTE:

by Rick Rozoff
Global Research, January 23, 2010
But this month has brought even more dramatic and dangerous news. [SIZE="150"]The Pentagon has authorized the completion of a $6.5 billion arms deal with Taiwan with an agreement to deliver 200 Patriot Advanced Capability anti-ballistic missiles. The People’s Republic of China is infuriated,[/SIZE] as Washington would be if the situation were reversed and Beijing provided a comparable arsenal of weapons to, for example, an independent Puerto Rico. [5]

As though that action was not provocative enough however, on January 20 the Polish Defense Ministry announced that a U.S. Patriot missile battery, and the 100 American soldiers who will operate it, would not be based on the outskirts of the capital of Warsaw as previously announced but in the Baltic Sea city of Morag, 35 miles [6] from Poland’s border with Russia.

The missile battery and troops are scheduled to arrive in March or April. [SIZE="150"]As part of the Obama administration’s new missile shield project,[/SIZE] one which will be integrated with NATO to take in all of Europe and extend into the Middle East and the Caucasus, the Patriots will be followed by Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) interceptor deployments on warships in the Baltic Sea and, for the first time ever, a land-based version of the same. “The Pentagon will deploy command posts of SM-3 missiles, which can intercept both short- and mid-range missiles...” [7] [SIZE="4"]An SM-3 was used by the Pentagon to shoot a satellite out of orbit in February of 2008[/SIZE] to give an indication of its range.

[AussieOicaptain of 1,000]

probably need a dry run(s) before you can pull in martial law in the US

the other thing is, there has to be a justification, as well as reason, to bring in martial law

i can see that benig fabricated manufactured yes

but im not sure they need to silence those opposing the NWO- if you have "loonie" voices you have freedom apparently

they already have sole management of the government

they already have looted the treasury and have us locked in to fund their excesses- (taxation)

i dont know if they need to put us in a cage- we are prepared to stay in it already

time will tell however

[JasonI am a nobody!]

probably need a dry run(s) before you can pull in martial law in the US

the other thing is, there has to be a justification, as well as reason, to bring in martial law

i can see that benig fabricated manufactured yes

but im not sure they need to silence those opposing the NWO- if you have "loonie" voices you have freedom apparently

they already have sole management of the government

they already have looted the treasury and have us locked in to fund their excesses- (taxation)

i dont know if they need to put us in a cage- we are prepared to stay in it already

time will tell however

New Orleans
unemployment running out - riots - protect the rich
more control...more slavery...always by degrees....we haven't hit the end of the rope yet....

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

IMO, I do not bevieve martial law will be declared until a "popular" political figure is assassinated, and then only to put down riots.

Bob

[ready2preparecaptain of 1,000]

IMO, I do not bevieve martial law will be
declared until a "popular" political figure is
assassinated, and then only to put down riots.
Bob

Hmmm...could this be the "event" I've been
hearing about as a possibility this year?

Naw...I've been reading too much conspiracy
stuff. Besides, we all know Lee Harvey Oswald
killed JFK all by his lil' lonesome...

Effective immediately: I'm adding ALL "popular"
political figures to my prayer list.

Best Regards,
Sharon (Helping people get prepared) in Mississippi

[AllTencaptain of 100]

Effective immediately: I'm adding ALL "popular"
political figures to my prayer list.

Best Regards,
Sharon (Helping people get prepared) in Mississippi

I saw a bumper sticker that read:
"Psalm 109:8 - Pray For Obama"

I've been praying for him ever since.

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

Effective immediately: I'm adding ALL "popular"
political figures to my prayer list.

Best Regards,
Sharon (Helping people get prepared) in Mississippi

I saw a bumper sticker that read:
"Psalm 109:8 - Pray For Obama"

I've been praying for him ever since.

"Let his days be few, and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8"

Interesting concept;

Bob

[AllTencaptain of 100]

Effective immediately: I'm adding ALL "popular"
political figures to my prayer list.

Best Regards,
Sharon (Helping people get prepared) in Mississippi

I saw a bumper sticker that read:
"Psalm 109:8 - Pray For Obama"

I've been praying for him ever since.

"Let his days be few, and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8"

Interesting concept;

Bob

It was a joke. I guess it was a bad one; it killed the thread. Though, I really did see a bumper sticker that said that.

[DrJonescaptain of 1,000]

Book of Helaman, Chapter 8:

25 But behold, ye have rejected the truth, and rebelled against your holy God; and even at this time, instead of laying up for yourselves btreasures in heaven, where nothing doth corrupt, and where nothing can come which is unclean, ye are heaping up for yourselves wrath against the day of cjudgment.
26 Yea, even at this time ye are ripening, because of your murders and your fornication and wickedness, for everlasting destruction; yea, and except ye repent it will come unto you soon.
27 Yea, behold it is now even at your doors; yea, go ye in unto the judgment-seat, and search; and behold, your judge is murdered, and he lieth in his blood; and he hath been murdered by his brother, who seeketh to sit in the judgment-seat.
28 And behold, they both belong to your secret band, whose author is Gadianton and the evil one who seeketh to destroy the souls of men.

[AllTencaptain of 100]

Just watched another presentations by Edward Griffin called the Quigly formula.
It was really good. In the middle of the presentation he talked about how the NWO ("The Whore") is at odds with the communists ("The beast"). Made me think of this thread. It's a pretty good watch if you have time (1 hr 18 minutes)

http://www.projectredpill.org/TheQuigleyFormula.wmv

[JasonI am a nobody!]

Just watched another presentations by Edward Griffin called the Quigly formula.
It was really good. In the middle of the presentation he talked about how the NWO ("The Whore") is at odds with the communists ("The beast"). Made me think of this thread. It's a pretty good watch if you have time (1 hr 18 minutes)

http://www.projectredpill.org/TheQuigleyFormula.wmv

Thank you for the link!

[Nancaptain of 1,000]

Reese, I have been reading a book called Following the light of Christ into his presence. It is a great book on revelation. One thing it said in there is that Satan will use rational arguments(or logic) to get people to not follow revelation that they receive. From my personal experience with dreams is that if you wake up and know the meaning of the dream, then it is from God. And they tend to stick with you for a long time after wards if not permanently.

[farfromhomecaptain of 50]

Book of Helaman, Chapter 8:

27 Yea, behold it is now even at your doors; yea, go ye in unto the judgment-seat, and search; and behold, your judge is murdered, and he lieth in his blood; and he hath been murdered by his brother, who seeketh to sit in the judgment-seat.
28 And behold, they both belong to your secret band, whose author is Gadianton and the evil one who seeketh to destroy the souls of men.

I suppose it is possible that one Gadianton could assassinate the "chief judge" as happened in the Book of Helaman, not too long before the coming of Christ. Is the Book of Mormon warning us of something? Perhaps to look for a Gadianton who seeks the high office while having the leader assassinated?

I'm thinking of LBJ and JFK now... was that a fulfillment, if this is taken as prophetic or a parallel written for our day?
or perhaps future? or perhaps both?

[pjbrowniecaptain of 1,000]

IMO, I do not bevieve martial law will be declared until a "popular" political figure is assassinated, and then only to put down riots.

Bob

Quite right Bob. Read 3 Nephi 8-10.

[pjbrowniecaptain of 1,000]

And to be more accurate, I believe the reference to the murder of the Chief Judge in Helaman correlates with an earlier assassination, perhaps JFK.

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

And to be more accurate, I believe the reference to the murder of the Chief Judge in Helaman correlates with an earlier assassination, perhaps JFK.

In my opinion, the assassinations mentioned in Helaman chapter 6:15 is the type that refers to Jack Kennedy and his brother Bobby. The assassination type in chapter 10 refers to a near future event.

Bob

[DrJonescaptain of 1,000]

It is hard to face the truth, folks.

Glad to see Medina support an investigation of 9/11, sad to see her back off and agree to the label "despicable" to those who question the official 9/11 story.

Glad to see Chaffetz support an investigation of 9/11, sad to see him back off and use the label "nutty" to 9/11 researchers (but perhaps he did not mean it to apply to all 9/11 researchers?)...

Glad to see G Beck challenge the official global warming story, sad to see him back off recently and apply the label "idiot" to anyone who could not see it.

Why do they always use ad hominems, mocking? Lehi's dream revisited.

Yes, as John warned, the whore Babylon has great power over the earth. Particularly over the seven nations that worship the whore.

When truth and justice are rejected by a people, the Lord applies justice in a less pleasant way than internal self-cleansing. John's vision sees the red Beast attacking the whore Babylon -- and winning. Revelation 17,18. The wicked fighting the wicked, and thus eternal Justice is served.

I guess we should get ready for this.

The good news, found in the Savior's teachings, is that the New Jerusalem will be built as a haven of safety. When we are worthy and willing to build it, I understand.

[buffalo_girlcaptain of 1,000]

Jesus was mocked, too.

I believe we are entering an intensified period of 'testing'. Seems like everyone is irritable and 'willy-nilly' in our area. People aren't too willing to reach out to one another. Even if they aren't calling each other names, they seem to like finding something about which to exercise 'unrighteous dominion' or a sense of superiority.

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

Yes, as John warned, the whore Babylon has great power over the earth. Particularly over the seven nations that worship the whore.

When truth and justice are rejected by a people, the Lord applies justice in a less pleasant way than internal self-cleansing. John's vision sees the red Beast attacking the whore Babylon -- and winning. Revelation 17,18. The wicked fighting the wicked, and thus eternal Justice is served.

I guess we should get ready for this.
Yes. And we have had a few prophets tell us what kind of "cleasning" to expect. Nephi told about the destruction by fire, President Benson talked about our generation being the first to realize how literally prophecies can be fulfilled now that God, through science has unlocked the secret of thermonuclear reaction, Elder McConkie talked about the atomic holocausts that surely shall be, and John saw the nations that would join with the beast to burn the whore.

So how do we prepare for nuclear war? Is it even possible to prepare for something like that? I think the Lord will be our only hope in surviving that. Along with a good fall out shelter and some iodine pills? This is one area where I feel very inadequately prepared. And very overwhelmed.




The good news, found in the Savior's teachings, is that the New Jerusalem will be built as a haven of safety. When we are worthy and willing to build it, I understand.

I've never understood this very well. Is the Lord waiting for us to get our acts together before Zion can be built, or will he move forward and cause Zion to be built reguardless of whether most are not ready to help. I would imagine that the "cleasing" will do a great job of humbling us enough to be worthy of building up Zion. Why oh why must we be complelled. It would be so much easier if we would humble ourselves enough to be worthy.

[clarkkent14captain of 1,000]

Yes, as John warned, the whore Babylon has great power over the earth. Particularly over the seven nations that worship the whore.

When truth and justice are rejected by a people, the Lord applies justice in a less pleasant way than internal self-cleansing. John's vision sees the red Beast attacking the whore Babylon -- and winning. Revelation 17,18. The wicked fighting the wicked, and thus eternal Justice is served.

I guess we should get ready for this.
Yes. And we have had a few prophets tell us what kind of "cleasning" to expect. Nephi told about the destruction by fire, President Benson talked about our generation being the first to realize how literally prophecies can be fulfilled now that God, through science has unlocked the secret of thermonuclear reaction, Elder McConkie talked about the atomic holocausts that surely shall be, and John saw the nations that would join with the beast to burn the whore.

So how do we prepare for nuclear war? Is it even possible to prepare for something like that? I think the Lord will be our only hope in surviving that. Along with a good fall out shelter and some iodine pills? This is one area where I feel very inadequately prepared. And very overwhelmed.




The good news, found in the Savior's teachings, is that the New Jerusalem will be built as a haven of safety. When we are worthy and willing to build it, I understand.

I've never understood this very well. Is the Lord waiting for us to get our acts together before Zion can be built, or will he move forward and cause Zion to be built reguardless of whether most are not ready to help. I would imagine that the "cleasing" will do a great job of humbling us enough to be worthy of building up Zion. Why oh why must we be complelled. It would be so much easier if we would humble ourselves enough to be worthy.

I've been pondering this too. How in the world do you prep for Nuclear? Iodine and a bunker doesn't seem feasible for most saints. The more I read Isaiah, the more I feel it will be divine intervention. All we can do is be righteous. The John Taylor vision helps me see this

I was imediately in Salt lake City wandering about the streets in all parts of the City and On the door of every house I found a badge of mourning, and I Could not find a house but what was in mourning. I passed by my own house and saw the same sign there, and asked, 'Is that me that is dead?' Sumthing gave me answer, 'No, you [shall] live through it all.'

It seemed strange to me that I saw no person [on] the street in my wandering about through the City. They seemed to be in their houses with their Sick and Dead. I saw no funeral procession, or any thing of that kind, but the City looked very Still and quiet as though the people were praying and had Control of the disease what ever it was.

I then look in all directions over the Territory, East west North and South, and I found the same mourning in every place throughout the Land. The next I knew I was Just this side of Omaha. It seemed as though I was above the Earth, looking down to it as I passed along on my way East and I saw the roads full of people, principally women, with just what they Could Carry in bundles on their backs traveling to the mountains on foot. And I wondered how they Could get there, with nothing but a small pack upon their backs. It was remarkable to me that there were so few men among them. It did not seem as though the Cars were running. The rails looked rusty, and the road abandoned, And I have no conception how I traveled myself.

It will not be easy, but through faith, prayer, and righteousness we can make it through.

My thoughts are this... The Lord will force us to lean on Him. Why? to strengthen us in the fires of adversity."But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap: 3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness."

This might even bring about Zion

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

Agreed clarkent. I believe that we will be as the children of Israel wandering in the wilderness. We will be completely dependant upon the Lord for our survival. I also think being worthy to call upon the Lord for protection may also be a way of sifting the wheat from the tares.
I pray that I and my family will we one of the worthy wheat. That puts everything into persective. If we are not completely worthy of the Lord's protection and blessings none of our other preparations will matter.
Also along those lines we know that the Lord will begin in his own house. I don't know for sure what that means. Surely it means the church as a whole, and maybe Utah area specifically? I don't know, but it sure makes me want to stop wasting time on things that don't matter!

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

[,


My thoughts are this... The Lord will force us to lean on Him. Why? to strengthen us in the fires of adversity."But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap: 3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness."

This might even bring about Zion

The Lord will have a humble and worthy people. We can chose to humble ourselves or wait and be compelled to be humble.

I have always been curious about this scripture. Why does the Lord say he will purify the sons of Levi. I know that they will be the ones that offer up a sacrifice to the Lord, but I'm sure all of us must be purified as well. I guess I am curious about the Levites being mentioned specifically because their is a certain Levite very dear to my heart. I wonder if there will be something special, specific to their purification. Any thoughts on this?

[JoeSwissHi, I'm new.]

[,


My thoughts are this... The Lord will force us to lean on Him. Why? to strengthen us in the fires of adversity."But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap: 3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness."

This might even bring about Zion

The Lord will have a humble and worthy people. We can chose to humble ourselves or wait and be compelled to be humble.

I have always been curious about this scripture. Why does the Lord say he will purify the sons of Levi. I know that they will be the ones that offer up a sacrifice to the Lord, but I'm sure all of us must be purified as well. I guess I am curious about the Levites being mentioned specifically because their is a certain Levite very dear to my heart. I wonder if there will be something special, specific to their purification. Any thoughts on this?

The language of D&C 59:8 is reminiscent of D&C 13 in such a way as to be an interpretation of what the righteous sacrifice may be, ie, the broken heart and contrite spirit: "Thou shalt offer a sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in righteousness, even that of a broken heart and a contrite spirit."

So, that's the simple sacrifice the Lord is waiting for from the sons of Levi. They (and anyone else) of course would certainly be purified after that.

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

[,


My thoughts are this... The Lord will force us to lean on Him. Why? to strengthen us in the fires of adversity."But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap: 3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness."

This might even bring about Zion

The Lord will have a humble and worthy people. We can chose to humble ourselves or wait and be compelled to be humble.

I have always been curious about this scripture. Why does the Lord say he will purify the sons of Levi. I know that they will be the ones that offer up a sacrifice to the Lord, but I'm sure all of us must be purified as well. I guess I am curious about the Levites being mentioned specifically because their is a certain Levite very dear to my heart. I wonder if there will be something special, specific to their purification. Any thoughts on this?

The language of D&C 59:8 is reminiscent of D&C 13 in such a way as to be an interpretation of what the righteous sacrifice may be, ie, the broken heart and contrite spirit: "Thou shalt offer a sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in righteousness, even that of a broken heart and a contrite spirit."

So, that's the simple sacrifice the Lord is waiting for from the sons of Levi. They (and anyone else) of course would certainly be purified after that.

Well now, that doesn't sound too bad.
Too bad so few of us really understand how to truly do it.

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[clarkkent14captain of 1,000]

I guess I am curious about the Levites being mentioned specifically because their is a certain Levite very dear to my heart. I wonder if there will be something special, specific to their purification. Any thoughts on this?

I should have just put the "purging of silver," for my point.

As for the sons of Levi... they will do a last sacrifice in the Jerusalem Temple and then it will be converted into a modern temple. That's why I think it will be built by the Jews... they will build it to do ancient sacrifices. Once converted, they will stop the sacrifices. I'll look up some sources for this...

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

I guess I am curious about the Levites being mentioned specifically because their is a certain Levite very dear to my heart. I wonder if there will be something special, specific to their purification. Any thoughts on this?

I should have just put the "purging of silver," for my point.

As for the sons of Levi... they will do a last sacrifice in the Jerusalem Temple and then it will be converted into a modern temple. That's why I think it will be built by the Jews... they will build it to do ancient sacrifices. Once converted, they will stop the sacrifices. I'll look up some sources for this...

So does it say that this sacrifice will take place in the temple in Jerusalem or the one in New Jerusalem. An intersting thing I read a while ago said that the jews in Israel were now breeding the specific type of hefer that is to be used in this sacrifice.