To those of you who may be more familiar with what Denver has written, and what he's said about his own life and experiences in those writings, was there ever a time (after he joined the LDS church, and before he received the Second Comforter) when he gave up his house, car, motorcycles, law practice, and lived in poverty?...if Joseph and Denver achieved/received/qualified-for the greatest of all blessings of the Lord, and the Lord is no respecter of persons, then they must have fulfilled His expectations/commandments/requirements, therefore their teachings/lives/examples, if emulated, should qualify any person before the Lord. Therefore, when I look at certain aspects of their teachings/writings and lives/examples and I cannot reconcile them with some of what I'm hearing or understanding you saying, I have a problem. Either my understanding is wrong or some of your interpretations are not entirely correct. I think.
For example - and, again, I've probably misunderstood, so consider it an opportunity to clarify, not just for me but for many on this forum who seem to also not quite be totally understanding and/or thus far agreeing with what you're saying: saving money and/or owning property. It appears that both Joseph and Denver have saved money and owned property. Neither one seems to have become a bum on the street. Denver earns money as a lawyer, has owned Harley Davidson motorcycles, etc. Joseph was in the employ of the Church for most of his ministry - his property and living expenses paid for by various things funded by the Church - not terribly different than it sounds like the LDS Brethren today to be honest.
This is what some are teaching one has to do (and I believe he teaches that one has to do) to receive the Second Comforter.
Can it be shown that Denver actually did this?
Isn't he (even now) a rich successful lawyer, a property owner, and a full partner in a law firm?
And hasn't he always been?
That's a question I'd like to ask those who think Mr. Snuffer is a true prophet.
But I also have a question for those who think he's a false prophet.
What does he get (and-what can he hope to get) out of this movement if the fellowships are autonomous, and he donates all the proceeds from his book sales to the LDS relief fund.
That's the claim I've seen, and I'd like to know if it's true.
And the LDS church should know if it's receiving funds from the sale of his books.