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Our bodies are made of spirit (what God created and we had in the pre-existance) and flesh (obtained through birth on this earth). When we die our spirit and body are seperated. Spirit goes to the spirit world until the resurrection and our flesh decomposes to dirt in the earth.

My question is, how is our flesh resurrected from the dirt? How is our spirit reunited with our body? And we also know that our bodies will be perfected, no blemish or problems and it won't be susceptible to problems we had while on our earthy journey- which also leaves one wondering how?

I know God's abilities are far beyond our understanding and that he certainly can do it, but since we tend to put our own understanding to things, what do you think about the how related to the resurrection?

Is this how Adam and Eve were created?
Does this apply to the miracle birth of Jesus?

What you guys think?
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Ezekiel 37

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A + B = a living soul. B is Body; what word begins with A ???

Hint, it also ends with A and only has 5 letters from a 12 letter alphabet.

Many don't realize how well the deeper meaning of A---A fits


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God also says that Jesus was conceived of a virgin but many do not believe this to be what actually happened.

So yes, God made Adam from the dust of the earth and that our physical bodies will rise from the earth, I'm aware of the scripture teachings.

But "how".

I wonder if those who like to go deeper had any ideas to share.

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MMbelieve wrote: July 14th, 2017, 3:57 pmMy question is, how is our flesh resurrected from the dirt? How is our spirit reunited with our body? And we also know that our bodies will be perfected, no blemish or problems and it won't be susceptible to problems we had while on our earthy journey- which also leaves one wondering how?
I don't know for sure, but here's another thing to think about, your body is constantly discarding old cells and generating new ones. You don't technically have the same body at any given point in your life. Perhaps certain brain, bone, and other cells are with you the entire time, your soft tissue is constantly regenerating.

While intelligence governs all matter, it appears that at some given point our intelligence will be permanently fused with matter that resembles human form. Will our faces and bodies feature genetic traits we picked up along the way? Will you have your dad's nose, or the same skin color, or only 2 toes like that particular tribe in Africa? We don't know these things, but I'm sure they won't bother us when we regain a full remembrance of former things.

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MMbelieve wrote: July 14th, 2017, 5:58 pmSo yes, God made Adam from the dust of the earth and that our physical bodies will rise from the earth, I'm aware of the scripture teachings.

But "how".

I wonder if those who like to go deeper had any ideas to share.
In Enoch we hear the earth speaking and referring to herself as our mother. Is the earth itself made of trillions of intelligences or is the earth as a planet governed by a single intelligence? We don't know, but if the earth is a single intelligence, perhaps she "gives birth" to us again in the sense that she offers matter that is part of herself, much like a human mother and father do with their genetics, for us to inherit. Thus, to "inherit the earth" may have other meanings. The earth will be celestialized and perhaps is it that matter which will be provided to those resurrected souls.

That's the only theory I can muster given what we know. Don't go quoting me on that, I'm just having some fun with kicking around the idea.

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MMbelieve wrote: July 14th, 2017, 3:57 pm And we also know that our bodies will be perfected, no blemish or problems
And yet Jesus' resurrected body still has the marks of the nails and the scar in his side.
I have often wondered about the mechanics of the resurrection. I don't think it is as literal as your decomposing body coming out of the ground and meshing with your spirit. There are so many pieces to consider- like the fact that you already have an exalted self. I think maybe the resurrection is us becoming one with the exalted self that already exists. [Ya know, how we're taken home to that God who gave us life].

I think we develop the ability to manifest whatever type of body we want. We can also change how our bodies are perceived by others, like Jesus did on the road to Emmaus- their eyes were holden so they didn't recognize his physical body. The 3 nephites and John and others can masquerade as beggars or whatever they need to be to fulfill their purposes.
Maybe resurrection is more about having the ability to manipulate matter in this physical world instead of only being able to do it in the spirit world.

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butterfly wrote: July 14th, 2017, 6:27 pm
MMbelieve wrote: July 14th, 2017, 3:57 pm And we also know that our bodies will be perfected, no blemish or problems
And yet Jesus' resurrected body still has the marks of the nails and the scar in his side.
I have often wondered about the mechanics of the resurrection. I don't think it is as literal as your decomposing body coming out of the ground and meshing with your spirit. There are so many pieces to consider- like the fact that you already have an exalted self. I think maybe the resurrection is us becoming one with the exalted self that already exists. [Ya know, how we're taken home to that God who gave us life].

I think we develop the ability to manifest whatever type of body we want. We can also change how our bodies are perceived by others, like Jesus did on the road to Emmaus- their eyes were holden so they didn't recognize his physical body. The 3 nephites and John and others can masquerade as beggars or whatever they need to be to fulfill their purposes.
Maybe resurrection is more about having the ability to manipulate matter in this physical world instead of only being able to do it in the spirit world.
I believe Christ retaining his scars was/is for a purpose. I have wondered if at the end of this earth time, he will still have them.

I like your ideas!

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butterfly wrote: July 14th, 2017, 6:40 pm Breatharianism, though different from resurrection, has interesting ideas about how our cells can use light as a food and energy source. You tell your cells to convert light to whatever vitamin or nutrition they need. Since we are essentially made of light, it is a way of raising our bodies to a higher consciousness, cell by cell. And of course, light is a purer food than what we typically eat here on earth, so the body remains younger and healthier. We only age when a cell can't regenerate/ multiply to replenish the earth (our bodies) correctly.

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Spirit cells may utilize nuclear fusion to generate amazing amounts of energy.

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Our bodies are made of spirit (what God created and we had in the pre-existance) and flesh (obtained through birth on this earth). When we die our spirit and body are seperated. Spirit goes to the spirit world until the resurrection and our flesh decomposes to dirt in the earth.

My question is, how is our flesh resurrected from the dirt? How is our spirit reunited with our body? And we also know that our bodies will be perfected, no blemish or problems and it won't be susceptible to problems we had while on our earthy journey- which also leaves one wondering how?

I know God's abilities are far beyond our understanding and that he certainly can do it, but since we tend to put our own understanding to things, what do you think about the how related to the resurrection?

Is this how Adam and Eve were created?
Does this apply to the miracle birth of Jesus?

What you guys think?

We can also change how our bodies are perceived by others, like Jesus did on the road to Emmaus- their eyes were holden so they didn't recognize his physical body.

For starters, we are told we are in tabernacles of clay right now. So think about the process...clay is an imperfect form, but when the clay gets baked,..or goes through adversity it is refined into something more beautiful. The Lord also makes reference to he will make up his jewels and you can find references to the jewels being made through trials are us. Further there are scriptures about 'PUT on thy beautiful garments oh Zion (or daughter of Zion); meaning by growing through the gospel by faith and repentance that it makes us beautiful. The symbolism of everyone being beautiful and bright, white in the temple has a real meaning. It shows us how we are becoming more beautiful as we follow him, but we don't see it because we're in tabernacles of clay.

Of how we are resurrected; Christ holds the priesthood key of resurrection. It's interesting that he kept this key himself where all others were given to priesthood holders. This is partly due to him being the most trustworthy. Also it has meaning in that he paid for it with the atonement. So when we are ready we will be resurrected. We choose how ready we will be by our obedience, faith, and repentance and how much we love him. All the real progression both temporal and physical comes down to how much we love him by following him, and serving him. He can create and alter matter in ways that we can't comprehend and not subject to the same limits that we have. We can't fathom entirely how this is done yet, but he says he will show us all things and teach us all things when we're ready during the Millenium including how worlds are made. (There are scriptural references for this that you can find but of the top of my head I forgot where its at. Suffice it say that those things are done with the Priesthood also.) We can see examples of this though in gardening, the plant growing in the good soil, good light, good nutrients, and more regular waterings will grow many times bigger, more beautiful, and more fruit than the plant growing in the poor soil, (fallen world), poor watering (less love), and less nutrients (less light). If you think about it this way I think it will feel more clear to you.

Part of why Jesus wasn't recognized on Emmaus road and when with Mary after he was resurrected was because he no longer had to have the Earth version clay tabernacle; he could be more himself without having to hide parts of his glory, which would be more evident. These two parts also show us that our resurrected bodies will look way better than our current Earth version sickly, diseased bodies that are weaker. This is partly I think why people are easily attracted to porn or homosexuality; because on some subconscious level in their spirit our bodies in the Pre-mortal part of life saw that everyone was beautiful. So we kind of want and are attracted to beauty because its natural but we don't remember it. We right now have to learn how to be able to be trusted with a clay tabernacle before we can get the upgraded immortal version.

Regarding how the Savior was born through Mary, there are evil people that would perfect this and twist it to have people rebel against the plan of salvation. I think this is why we get the simple answer on that for now. And for how we created Adam and Eve's body I'm sure if you compare it to sewing he just used materials from the type of world they would live on, so they could progress from experiencing their own choices. But when we get resurrected he would make the bodies 'from sturdier material'. I think that's a simple understanding of it. The sturdier material could be stronger materials from a celestial world, and also more light in it.

What's mainly important now though is to just focus on if we keep being loyal to Jesus and Heavenly Father with our love and obedience towards them with faith then it will be OK> Then we'll see the day when we won't have sickly diseased bodies that can get hurt easy. Right now we have a real opportunity to show our loyalty. Let's focus on that. Its precious to you when you see a family member has love and loyalty for you. So of course wouldn't they also be moved when they see us doing this for them?

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