Yours is a loaded question.Arenera wrote: ↑July 10th, 2017, 12:25 pmIf someone is anchored to Christ, why would they spend their time bashing the church, leaders and members? I thought we were supposed to hold up the Light, which is Christ.Finrock wrote: ↑July 10th, 2017, 12:14 pmIt is not liberating to follow one's own mind and interests and underdog did not suggest that.AI2.0 wrote: ↑July 8th, 2017, 6:48 pmYea, I can see how one would think that it is 'super liberating' not to have to follow the strict teachings of a religion and instead pick and choose what you want and call it 'the spirit'. No more worrying about having to pay tithing or attend three hour block meetings,serve in callings, keep the Word of Wisdom, attend the temple, worry about obedience to commandments that cramp a person's lifestyle...underdog wrote: ↑July 8th, 2017, 12:54 pm I would guess, because the so-called Snuffer movement or remnant movement is without a leader and is wired up to be decentralized as a principle, that there is zero chance of a coordinated effort. Because Christ is Libertarian (the Author of Liberty), A LOT of remnant people would be attracted to this forum naturally. Many if not the vast majority are Libertarians.
One thing I learned from somebody who's in the movement, and I think this idea was given by the Spirit, is that it's not so important WHO the messenger is, but WHAT the message is. Anybody, even a little child, can be given great truths to utter. Even an evil person can say truth (John 11:51 comes to mind). Each message is true or false, worthy or unworthy.
I def agree with JaredBees above who said it's "Super liberating to be anchored to Christ and take the spirit as our guide to where we can accept truth where God confirms and reject it when it is the contrivance of man or Satan." That is how I want to live my life, so as to not be closed to truth from any source, and not to get too comfortable with tradition that could be the contrivance of man or Satan, as Elder Poelman rightly taught in his famous original 1984 talk.
It may be liberating to follow after the teachings of one's own mind and interests, but there will be consequences, eventually, because it is through subjecting our will to God's will that we truly become like him. If we choose not to do this, but follow our own way, we will not grow spiritually as we should, the way Heavenly Father wanted us to, in this life.
What was actually said and what is being suggested is that it is liberating to be anchored to Jesus Christ and to take the Holy Spirit as our guide. Being anchored to Christ and obtaining and maintaining the Holy Spirit is the goal of the Church. If one has become anchored to Christ and has the Holy Spirit as their guide as a disciple of Jesus Christ you ought to rejoice. You can't be a disciple of Jesus Christ without keeping the commandments of Jesus Christ. It is important to know what His commandments are and what they are not. The scriptures are great place to look. And because the scriptures are written by the power of the Holy Ghost, having the Holy Ghost as your companion is important to have so that you may understand the scriptures. We obtain the Holy Ghost by having a broken heart and a contrite spirit and we maintain it as we diligently obey the commandments of Jesus Christ.
-Finrock
-Finrock